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As an individual and a Christian, what are the greatest lessons you have learned?

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That sometimes we must stand alone. That a holy life is not an option, but a Commandment. That many who "Play Christian" are No Christian at all. That each day that goes by we are one day closer to the end, and no one can prevent this, nor take that away from us. That what we give is what we get, and what we sow is what we reap, and what goes around comes around. That my God sees and hears and knows all, and he will repay exactly to each one accordingly. That all that was taken from us and destroyed will one day be restored back to us again, and each enemy will be rightly destroyed either in this lifetime or in the next.
---Eloy on 5/6/11


Mary .... Mark has not justified any of the lies he told about me.

When did I say God was not Sovereign?
When did I say I wanted the gtlory for my salvation?
When did I say God was a monster for saving me?
Whn did I say God could not do what He wants with His creation?
When did I dent that we have all sinned?
When did I say I was ungrateful for God saving me?

Donna ... There is a difference ... Mark has "forgiven" me for pointing out his lies. I have forgiven him for not withdrawing, and for repeating those lies.
---alan8566_of_UK on 5/6/11


great words of wisdom Donna, I too wish the complaining would stop. But as you will see, it will not end that quick, because alan cannot come to that state of mind yet. The bible is correct, which is the reason bible verses are important to give for proof instead of giving what I call nothing. I have learned so much from many people here who give very good arguments and I look up what they say and always see something I missed before.
---mary on 5/6/11


Mark has said to Alan-of-UK, "I forgive you." Now Alan has told Mark "I forgive you". I declare a TRUCE! Can we all go on now to matters of more general interest?
---Donna66 on 5/5/11


alan, I was not addressing you, but since you brought it up. I saw that markv answered all your questions on one blog, but that did not suffice, so you want an apology. Was it not you who called him a heretic and a liar, yet you proved nothing wrong in what he said. So far there is no proven evidence that he was wrong, at least not from the bible.
---mary on 5/5/11




Yes Mary, Mark is so bitter that he will not withdraw his faLse witness

But I forgive him.
---alan8566_of_UK on 5/5/11


Jesheradan, Mary gave a good answer. All the gospels speak about how Christ answering the Jews questions. That men lost is a child of wrath, not willing to come to Christ because he is doing the desires of his father the devil who has them trapped, the reason (God) makes us willing and able. It is written in Scripture for all to know how depraved a lost person is. They do not love Christ while lost:
"Jesus said to them, if God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God, nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My voice."
Only those who belong to the Father hear God and are able to come to Christ.
---Mark_V. on 5/5/11


There is so much bitterness in these blogs idk how they can still be considered Christian...

Mark, why do you call me Jesheradan/K ?
---Jasheradan on 5/5/11


And why do you arrogantly assume you need to tell me who God is? I have the Spirit of Jesus Christ living IN me. I have no need that any man teach me. The LORD teaches me now. His changes occur in me daily. I am very aware of his desire, of what pleases him and what does not. Just as the song says "he walks with me and he talks with me.. and he tells me I am his own"
---Jasheradan on 5/5/11

Bingo. Your scripture numbers are lining up. Bingo in the house. We have a Bingo.
---Trav on 5/5/11


//I'm your enemy because I tell you who God really is.//

You're not my enemy. Who ever said that? At the moment you're your own worse enemy.

And why do you arrogantly assume you need to tell me who God is? I have the Spirit of Jesus Christ living IN me. I have no need that any man teach me. The LORD teaches me now. His changes occur in me daily. I am very aware of his desire, of what pleases him and what does not. Just as the song says "he walks with me and he talks with me.. and he tells me I am his own"
---Jasheradan on 5/5/11




What I have been noticing lately is that kathr is not answering and past names resurrect suddenly asking the very same things, written in the very same manner she had used before. Could it be her again using her old tricks? Just like she did before and was caught? How convenient. Makes it seem like there's a lot of other people answering. I will answer her, if markv does not mind, with,

"why don't we remove the gospels because Jesus Christ spoke to Jews only, and nothing he said pertains to us."
---mary on 5/4/11


Ive noticed that whenever someones suggests your pray for an answer you dont.

I think its because you dont want to hear what the Spirit really has to say.

It seem you are happier in your delusion. Its your soul, Mark.
---Jasheradan on 5/4/11


Mark, do you not understand that Jesus was talking to the Jews in that passage of scripture? They rejected Him for the law. They were seeking life through the law.

Salvation hadn't even come to the gentiles yet, so how then is He speaking to US?
---CraigA on 5/4/11


Jesheradan/K, what can I answer you that will make you take a good look at Scripture that will satisfy you? Nada.
No matter how much truth you receive you already hold to a lie. And how can you let go of a lie? Only God can do that, not me.
I'm your enemy because I tell you who God really is. And that people are not willing to come to Christ, God has to make them willing, but you say they are willing and so were you, but God says.

"You search the Scripture for in them you think you have eternal life, and these are they which testify of Me. "But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life" (John 5:39,40).
---Mark_V. on 5/4/11


Jesheradan/K, I didn't have to ask Him,

"Lord, how can you judge certain people for being exactly what you WANT them to be? How are they disobedient? How are they worthy of death? That seems unjust"

He wrote it all down for me and for you so that you wouldn't ask.
1. Because He made the plan without making people sin but used their sins to complete His plan.
2. They are disobedient because they have a sin nature, due to Adam's fall.
3. They are worthy of death because since the creation of the world His invisible attributes are clearly seen, been understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead, so they are without excuse.
4. God is always just.
---Mark_V. on 5/4/11


Mark, you just prove that your questions were designed to trick, and that you do not understand what freewill is, nor how it fits perfectly to biblical predestination.

And still you will not tell when I said that God is not Sovereign. Nor when I said God can't do whatever He wants with His Creation, nor when I said I wanted the glory, nor ..., nor ... nor ... all that other false witnessing about me and others.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/4/11


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You're lying to yourself, Mark.... and to God.

Ask Him...

"Lord, how can you judge certain people for being exactly what you WANT them to be? How are they disobedient? How are they worthy of death? That seems unjust"

Get back to us with what He tells you...
---Jasheradan on 5/4/11


Alan, If what I said applies to you, you've put yourself under that predicament. I quoted to everyone who believes that they came to Christ under their own free will. You say no, and yet you claim it was your own free will. Then you change your mind and say No, that God did not make your willing. So then you made youself willing if it was not God Your caught in a web and are in denial.

"Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. By His mercy we have been born anew to a living hope.." 1 Peter 1:3

It was by His mercy and the reason we give Him glory.
Then you contradict yourself by saying No, that God did not make you willing, so if He didn't make you willing, then how did you come to Christ?
---Mark_V. on 5/4/11


Jesheradan/K, the reason I'm not afraid of anything is because my hope is in Christ, not in myself. I would be really scared if my hope was on me, and what you call free will. Because if I believed in that, and my hope was wrong, I would be going to hell. But my hope is in the Lord. By the faith He gave me, which faith I never had before. I do not question anything He has said, or why He said it. When He chose Adam as our representitive, I did not question, why him? Why not chose someone who He knew would not sin? Yet God chose him, know full well he would. The purpose why He did, I would never understand because I'm not God. But a sinful creature who has been forgiven.
---Mark_V. on 5/4/11


Alan, **EVERYONE*** here understood exactly what you meant. Mark is scared and I feel a great sorrow in my heart for him.

He has been taught not to question God. There is a respectful way to ask the Lord how or why he could do certain things. I know the things we have said have brought questions into his mind but that fear quickly shuts them out. That became obvious when he couldn't even agree that a god who designs a person to be evil and then punishes that person for it IS indeed a monster. That is NOT the God of scripture. Jesus Christ was no monster! Look at his HEART! HE IS the Father because the Father is IN Him and the Father works THRU Him.

John 14:8-10.... Mark PLEASE go read this ,brother, and let the words sink in.
---Jasheradan on 5/4/11


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Mark ... The extreme Predestination doctrine you broadcast comes from Calvin

I do not complain about the God of scripture. Predestination as in the bible sits very well with freeill as shown in the bible

I am not mad at you. I am quite prepared to have different doctrine beliefs, and remain friends.

You know I have not said the folllowing things.

God is not Sovereign
God is a monster for saving us
We deny that all have sinned.
Saved person is ungrateful
We want the glory for our salvation
God can't do what He wants with His creation

If you insist I have said those things, you either have a wild imagination, are deluded, can't understand English, or are a deliberate liar.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/3/11


Mark ... OK ... let's look at your questions, on 2/5

Does that not say, that God was not involve in you coming to Christ, that it was all of you, out of your own merits? NO ... unless thankfulness is a merit

Or do you now claim that you couldn't come to Christ in your lost condition and that God had to make you willing? NO

And didn't you claim that God is a monster for chosing you and everyone else? NO, I was describing your 'god'

Or do you recant what you said? No need to recant, since I did not say it except in a description of your 'god'

Did you not claim you had free will but cannot find one passage to caliberate your believes? NO
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/3/11


Alan, I wish you would stop representing me as someone else. I'm not an extreme Calvinist. I really don't know what that is. I'm a child of God born of God. And I do present you with my Father's word. And you present nothing but complains about the God of Scripture. You are mad because I give you the Truth of God. People do get mad when they hear the Truth, it convicts their hearts. You are so stuck in your free will, that only a supernatual act of God can change you. You never answered the questions I put to you. I answered all six of yours. You must have avoided them so that you could continue. As I did two times already, stop answering you, I will do that again.
---Mark_V. on 5/3/11


MarkV We do not agree on Predestination & FreeWill.

Your extreme Calvinistic Predestination denies any Freewill. My Biblical Predestination sits well with Biblical evidence of freewill.

But that is not the point now.

It is now about your false witness.

I have detailed SIX specific things you claim I or others have said. I have said none of them, nor has anyone else. In some cases, I said the exact opposite.

So those are six direct lies that you peddle about me.

And you know they were and remain lies

You should talk to God about your tendency to lie and maybe He will give you the grace and honesty to desist in future.

---alan8566_of_uk on 5/3/11


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Christina, great answer. As Christians we are assured that the Lord will never leave us. If we do sin, He will chasten us and bring us back to the fold. God's word to the believer says,

"If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons, for what son is there whom a father does not chsten? But if you are without chastening, " of which all have become partakers" then you are illegitimate and not sons" (Heb. 12:7,8).
---Mark_V. on 5/3/11


even as a saved christian, one can stumble, wander, (I'm not talking about denying Christ), and God is still the same, ever faithful, loving, His kindness leads to repentance, and he is GOOD all the time! I'm not listing 3 things, but things I've known, intellectually, I have since truly learned experientially, a deeper, heart learning
---Christina on 5/2/11


Alan, you spoke a lot with three blogs, and I heard what you believe, but you give no Scripture to indicate that what you are talking about is true, are Scriptures to indicate I am wrong. So where is your evidence? Now you want me to be your Pinpal friend after you stab me in the back twice, my goodness, are you kidding. Your in denial.
If I became your friend I would have to walk in a backward position to make sure you don't stab me again. I don't have time to be your temporary friend.
---Mark_V. on 5/2/11


Mark ... I think I understand why you think I said God was a monster for saving us.

I had in that post been describing the 'god' who decrees that most people will be wicked, who denies them any chance to repent and be saved, who ""justly punishes" them their "disobedience" in behaving exactly he has commanded.

I called that 'god' a monster, for those people did not disobey, so there was no punishment justified.

That is your perception of 'god', and I do regard that 'god' as a monster.

But I am sure that no-one other than you imagined that I was talking about God
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/2/11


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No Mark ... I did not say God is a monster for choosing me. I said that the god of your imagination, who would punish the majority for behaving as he decreed, would be a monster, if he existed.

Mark, you clearly do not understand that to say to the world that another person has said something that they have not said is bearing false witness.

You have not withdrawn your specific lies about what I have said.You pretend they are the truth, but the record is there ... You have stated that I have said things, when I have not, you have said I deny the Soverignty of God, when I have affirmed it.

If you have the courage, sign on to PenPal, then we can discuss this matter in private. We might even understand each other then.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/2/11


Mark the word freewill does not appear in the bible, but there are plenty of things which Jesus said which indicated the man can make his own choice. I have quoted some of these, although you falsely claim that I have not

God predestined for glory those who choose Him, He predestined them since before the Creation.

He predestined them, because He knew that they would choose Him.

He did not cause them to choose Him. He did not cause the rest of mankind to reject Him, even though He knew they would.

The God I know is not a dictator.

And the God I know would not permit me to tell lies about other people, although yours seem to allow it.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/2/11


Mark ... You said on another, now closed, blog "Alan, what lies"

Can't you read, man?

You said of me (and others) that I say:

God is not Sovereign
God is a monster for saving us
We deny that all have sinned.
Saved person is ungrateful
We want the glory for our salvation
God can't do what He wants with His creation.

ALL THOSE ARE LIES.

And I suggest you return to that blog, and see what Jaqulien has rto say about you
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/2/11


Alan, I will correct my question when I said:

"And didn't you claim that God is a monster for chosing you and everyone else? Or do you recant what you said?"

With, "choosing you and "not" others"
I'm correcting my writing to make sure you get it correct.
---Mark_V. on 5/2/11


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Alan, don't expect me to apologize for telling you the Truth. You have not answered my questions.

"you claim you came to Christ out of your own free will"

Does that not say, that God was not involve in you coming to Christ, that it was all of you, out of your own merits?

Or do you now claim that you couldn't come to Christ in your lost condition and that God had to make you willing?

And didn't you claim that God is a monster for chosing you and everyone else? Or do you recant what you said?

Seems you have not answered anything but complain.

Did you not claim you had free will but cannot find one passage to caliberate your believes?
---Mark_V. on 5/2/11


Mark, I would not expect you to apologise (and indeed you should not) for telling me that you think I am my belief is wrong, or for telling me what you doctrine is.

And there is no need for me to forgive you.

I have no objection to you telling me what your doctrine is.

Neither do I object to the SDA, the RCs, the JW's the tithers, the tongue speakers, putting forward their views and doctrine.

That is what will happen on these blogs.

Similarly, the freewilliers are entitled to put forward their views, as are the non-tithers, the Easter observers, the OSAS and the non-OSAS, the pre-, mid- and post- Tribbers

But none of them, are entitled to bear false witness about what those who disagree have said.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/2/11


But Mark ... I would have hoped you to apologise for bearing false witness against me.

I won't repeat the six lies which I recently listed, but as you know, ypu have grossly twisted and distorted many things I have said, even to the extent of saying I deny God's Sovereignty (the exact opposite of what I had said)

Now, in the UK, when one has lied about someone, it is common to apologise. It's not common to forgive someone for false withness, unless the apology precedes it. However, Jesus commands that I forgive you,

And if the lies continue, I will forgive you again. But I will still point out your false witness, so that, even if you don't apologise to me, you may confess it to God and repent.
---alan8566_of_uk on 5/2/11


the lessons i have learned and still yet learning is that life is a series of test.every now and then we are bombarded with decisions to make..and God expects us to arrived home in our dwelling place in heaven and let us hear Him say "'Well done, good and faithful servant! You have been faithful with a few things, I will put you in charge of many things. Come and share your master's happiness!'(Matthew 25:23)
---mj on 5/1/11


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Alan, you said:
"I notice you do not forgive me for telling you that you have made false witness about what I have said." Is that what you do in the U.K? Here we don't forgive for that, we apologize. I don't apologize for giving you the Truth, God's Word. You reject it because it does not fit the god you created.
Are you now denying you have free will and admit its not found in Scripture? And admit His on the Throne and
"Who hath called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, but according to His own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began" 2 Tim. 1:9. and that man is not autonomous, then I will apologize and recant what I said.
---Mark_V. on 4/30/11


Donna66, it is a pleasure to see you on line and answering and being in control most of the time no matter how hard they come down on you. You have done great, and I'm proud of you for standing for the Truth. Some get mad when they don't have answers to what God says, and I understand that many are not aware of much of what Scripture has to say about God. They know what man does and they give lost man too much credit while still a sinner in rebellion against God. That is why I begin to answer here when a friend of mine who is no longer on line told about the blogs. Peace and blessings to you sister keep up the good work you do.
---Mark_V. on 4/30/11


//as jesus commanded ... up to 70 X 7//

Probably was not a math problem which has a finite answer. If you forgive your transgressor 491 times, I do not think you have broken Jesus' commands. I know Jesus could not have stopped at 490 for me. otherwise, i'd have no hope.

Seven is the number of perfection. A better understanding might be to offer perfect forgiveness perfectly.

Anyway, check out the flip-side: Gen 4:24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.

We are not to take vengeance or unforgiveness into our own hands.
---aka on 5/1/11


alan, mark v forgave you not for having other believes or views, but for calling him a liar and a heretic. I'm curious, why don't you answer his point with what you really mean? he said free will was your own merits, can you explain why it is not? and if its not, whose merits are they? it is a good question.
---Daniel on 5/1/11


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MarkV You may forgive me for holding the wrong views.

I notice you do not forgive me for telling you that you have made false witness about what I have said.

I forgave you once for your false witness.

But now you have born that false witness again.

You continue to lie about what I have said, have twisted and distorted what I have said, have in fact made it say the exact opposite of what I said.

So I will forgive you again, as jesus commanded ... up to 70 X 7.

I hope I don't have to forgive you yet again. But I suppose I will have to do so, if you persist in your lies.
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/30/11


Alan, what lies? yours? You said you were sorry for what you called me, and now you say:

"But what is there to forgive? I have on many occasions had just cause to tell you that you were misrepresenting what I had said."

That tells me you are not sorry at all. You meant what you said. So you lied. I still forgive you, not for withdrawing what you said, but for speaking in ignorance of what you say. My English is not perfect, but my answers to you are correct. You defend your own free will, and suggest God cannot impose His will on you, that somehow God gave you freedom from Him while still a sinner, so you could come to Christ on your own merits, and turn around and deny you said such things.
---Mark_V. on 4/30/11


MarkV Thank you for forgiving me.

But what is there to forgive? I have on many occasions had just cause to tell you that you were misrepresenting mhat I had said. I don't see that as condemning you. It's defending myself against false witness.

I have just posted on the other blog yet another request that you withdraw the lies, and it would be nice if you can see your way to ge honest enough to do that.

If you won't, I will still forgive you, and will not mention those past lies unless you persist in the habit
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/29/11


MarkV--Sometimes I wonder if God has not led me to this site so that I will develop more self-control, (as well as the rest of the fruit of the spirit).I'm trying to learn to take honest correction better (and to accept even unfair criticism without becoming too defensive).

One thing I have learned is that life is short. I see how much energy I wasted on unimportant things when I was younger. I don't have
as much energy these past few years, so I'm trying to spend more of it on things of more lasting (if not eternal) importance.
---Donna66 on 4/29/11


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MarkV Thank you for forgiving me.

But what is there to forgive? I have on many occasions had just cause to tell you that you were misrepresenting mhat I had said. I don't see that as condemning you. It's defending myself against false witness.

I have just posted on the other blog yet another request that you withdraw the lies, and it would be nice if you can see your way to ge honest enough to do that.

If you won't, I will still forgive you, and will not mention those past lies unless you persist in the habit
---alan8566_of_uk on 4/29/11


cjmybad- A Christian must forgive even if the offender never repents!
---Donna66 on 4/29/11

THIS IS A SATANIC LIE!


The reason I yell on my posts(see my post).

THIS IS...

I'm Okay, You're okay Liberal Hippy Falsehood.

FOR THEN EVERYONE IS FORGIVEN REGARDLESS OF REPENTENCE OR WHO/WHAT THEY ARE/DOING. SO EVERYONE IN THE WORLD OF SATANIC LOVE IS WITHOUT SIN. SINCE THEY ARE ALL FORGIVEN

NOW HEAR WHAT JESUS TRULY SAID..

If he sins against you seven times in a day, and seven times comes back to you and says, "'I REPENT!!!" forgive him."


IGNORANCE OF SCRIPTURE IS NOT BLISS! IT'S DAMNATION DONNA!!!
---John on 4/29/11


Donna66, I completely agree with your answers and because of what you said and because of all I have learned, "I apologize to Alan again as I have done before for what he said about me." I forgive him. I will not bring what he said up again. If he continues to condemn me, then I will deal with that when the time comes if it comes.
With John, I know he has a lot to teach about the Word of God, for I agree that many have made Almighty God, a god of their own creation. And that there is many so call Christians following the wrong gospel. That is so true, but most of what he says, is always negative instead of edifying the brothers and sisters.
---Mark_V. on 4/29/11


cjmybad- A Christian must forgive even if the offender never repents! Christ was our example in that regard. He forgave those who crucified him, whether or not they ever even regretted, let alone repented, of their cruelty.

It is necessary for ones health, spiritually and otherwise, to forgive. Otherwise a person just marinates in their bitterness and unhappiness. Other people withdraw from one who is angry. So unforgiveness causes isolation as well. Jesus went so far as tell the disciples they should forgive 70x7 (that's 490 times.)
---Donna66 on 4/29/11


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//I am teaching with my Sarcasm/Yelling etc.//

Teaching? People will remember what you say...but chances are they will remember more about your attitude than the message you intend to get across.
---Donna66 on 4/29/11


but I would not try to carry that constant sarcasm.

(p.s. You may be judged to eat only at potluck dinners for eternity :~)
---aka on 4/28/11
LOL! That reminds me of a Twilight Zone on Hell. Where a Rocker spent eternity in a waiting room with an old lady knitting/listening to Opera.

I am teaching with my Sarcasm/Yelling etc.

I believe Christians today are so off track and not at all like the Believers in scripture.

Today they follow the "I'm okay, You're okay" philosophy of the Hippies. THE..."We don't Judge/aren't we all just lovie dubby unoffensive nice people" crowd. That's NOT Christianity. It's a Cop Out. An excuse to be Beourgoise and sit on your couch. NO PASSION just DEAD!
---John on 4/28/11


Humility (one of the characters of God) [Galatians 5:22-23].
---Adetunji on 4/28/11


2Tim 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth
---michael_e on 4/28/11


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I have learned the greatest benefit that an individual can arrive at is that benefit that it brought on by praising the Lord. The Lord is great and greatly to be praised. We on the other hand are grains of sand and we need to keep in mind what the Lord has done for us. If you consider what the Lord has done, your praises will come much easier, much oftener, and with greater sincerity.
---mima on 4/28/11


Cjmybad, you are right. I was speaking of repentance towards our rebellion against God. If we sin against our bro/sis. we should be willing to ask for their forgives. When we sin against God we need to come to Him with a real contrite heart. It includes a deep remorse for having offended God. The contrite person openly and fully confesses his sin with no attempt to excuse it or justify it. Repentance is a fruit of regeneration.
---Mark_V. on 4/28/11


//I DON'T, UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT!//

I agree,

but I would not try to carry that constant sarcasm that you carry with pride. if you are unwilling to let it go now, chances are that you will not be willing to let it go then.

(p.s. You may be judged to eat only at potluck dinners for eternity and not the at the wedding feast :~)
---aka on 4/28/11


Mark - aren't Christians supposed to repent?Psalms 145:17 The LORD is righteous in a his ways and loving toward all he has made.
But just asking God for forgiveness doesnt make things right with the person you've wronged. As best we can, we should make restitution for the harm weve caused others. And thats where amends come in.
Let me say it againthe sinning brother must repent before you can forgive him (Luke 17:6) Remember that repentance includes restitution and amendment of life.
A lie is a type of deception in the form of an untruthful statement, especially with the intention to deceive others and disregard of the consquences to others
---cjmybad on 4/28/11


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John-- Forget the 99.9%. How do you know YOU are saved? .
---Donna66 on 4/27/11
I DON'T, UNTIL THE DAY OF JUDGEMENT!

Hmmmmm????

Maybe I should have gone to Ricky Warrens church where all you have to say is Me Too! After Ricky does the 30 second sinners prayer. WOW! COOL! now thats really easy and convenient "church". Man you don't even have to leave the comfort of your seat.

He says the prayer and the audience just says: Me Too!

I bet they're saved for sure!

Yep, Ricky is cool with his surfer clothes and sandles.
---John on 4/27/11


John-- Forget the 99.9%. How do you know YOU are saved? Sometimes I wonder if you are.
---Donna66 on 4/27/11


Bill willa, great words of wisdom that come right from Scripture. Thank you brother, blessings
---Mark_V. on 4/27/11


that without jesus there is no life,without him you are spiritually dead,living in darkness,lost.without hope,never really knowing what real love is.
---tom2 on 4/27/11


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God is more crazy in love with you than you can imagine. If God had a fridge your picture would be on it.
---Scott on 4/27/11


I guess that means your the .001% that loves Jesus and the rest of us are slobs who were never really saved?
---Pharisee on 4/26/11

YEP! I COULDN'T AGREE MORE!!!

AS JESUS SAID...

"Many will be called, But "FEW" will be chosen!"
---John on 4/26/11


Cjmybad, I'm with Aka and Rob on this one. First of all, those who are born of the Spirit never stop been born of the Spirit. If you were a genuine believer the first time, you will never be lost. Rob said it best,
"Scripture also teaches there are those in Churches claiming to be of God, but the truth is they are servants of Satan, only masquerading as being from God."
There is many of those who believed the wrong gospel and think they are saved and later leave. 1 John 2:19 speaks of those,
"They went out from us, but they were not of us, for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us, but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us"
---Mark_V. on 4/26/11


I need my brothers and sisters. We're "members of one another" (Romans 12:5, Ephesians 4:25). So, I can not get really right in love, except along with others who are members of me in Jesus. God has members of a body grow and get healthy and strong together.

Before this, I came to appreciate that God is our Potter (Romans 9:21). And we are all made "from the same lump" (Romans 9:21), so I am no better than anyone else (c: "He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness." (Hebrews 5:2)
---Bill_willa6989 on 4/26/11


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//I started looking into how to forgive them and realized all they need to do is ask for forgiveness and to believe.//

Jesus said it would be this way. Just because two people that call themselves Christian have deceived you does not give you an excuse.

Let me give tell you something: Many call themselves pastors/teachers/prophets/'saved' and they have deceived many because of their lack of true discipleship. But, you gave them the power when the true power is in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.

God gave us a story where one blamed another. Did this appease God?

Get back in and quit making excuses for your sake and our benefit. God loves you and so do we.
---aka on 4/26/11


99.999% REALLY?

The statement lacks humility, how could you know the heart of 99.999% of Christians?

I guess that means your the .001% that loves Jesus and the rest of us are slobs who were never really saved?

It's clear what you haven't learned John is that your not omniscient. Knowledge is only power to those who'll apply wisdom, your statement is a discredit to your credentials. "go now and learn what this means..." you should know the rest.
---Pharisee on 4/26/11


I learn that 99.999% of those who call themselves "Christians" are Psuedo Carnal beorgeose phonies who attend Social Clubs called Churches. ALL FAKE!

Since they are in denial of their grossness (Which is the reason people get turn-off to Christ) They try to lure people into Christianity by deceptive techniques (i.e. Rock Music etc.) Then they offer the Bitter Medicine they call Jesus and the 1 minutes "Get out of Hell" Sinners prayer ticket.

But... first YOU APPROVE (AKA: Make a decison for) of Jesus.

Then they stuff their faces with the Fatted Pig of POTLUCK! (The Baptist Eucharest)

I'm a Pastor/Rabbi/Theologian and I'm getting neauseated just writng about them.

AIN'T THAT THE TRUTH!!!
---John on 4/25/11


IF you ARE a Christian, do not let a few bad apples shake your faith. Your faith is in Christ, not in men. Turn over to God those who have disillusioned you and continue to study, worship, pray for guidance.

IF you are (were) NOT really a Christian in your heart and let yourself reject Christ because of a few bad actors...now is the time to search your heart and seek to know Jesus the Savior in a more personal way.
---Donna66 on 4/25/11


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aka - we we happy in learning, growing and loving in our faith - 2 Christians deliberatly deceived us, we had our and my families congregations praying for us. I started looking into how to forgive them and realized all they need to do is ask for forgiveness and to believe. They led us down the path to becoming unbelievers - nothing else did.
---cjmybad on 4/26/11


"As an individual,... what are the greatest lessons you have learned?"
"Do all things without complaining and disputing," Knowing that "Pride leads to conflict, [and] those who take advice are wise."
---joseph on 4/26/11


//if you are a Christian,you have the power to either encourage people to stay in the faith or send them away //

Humans do not have that power over each other. You were probably heading in that direction anyway.

Now, that you realize that humans are human, you may let God do what they does best.

Quit blaming others and making excuses and falling for human error. It me 30+ years.
---aka on 4/25/11


Cjmybad, I can relate to you in many ways, and I feel for you.

If I did not take the needed time to study the scriptures for myself, I probably also would be an ex-christian.

Scripture teaches straight and narrow is the way. This way is CHRIST and CHRIST ALONE.

Scripture also teaches there are those in Churches claiming to be of God, but the truth is they are servants of Satan, only masquerading as being from God.

These people are drawing people unto themselves, unto Satan, and away from Christ.

I encourage you to put your faith and trust IN CHRIST, AND CHRIST ALONE!
---Rob on 4/25/11


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let my light shine,that jesus is the way truth and life,that only by taking up my cross daily can I follow him,and by loving everyone as he commanded.by submitting daily to the spirit,and living his word.
---tom2 on 4/25/11


As an ex christian I will give you a lesson, if you are a Christian,you have the power to either encourage people to stay in the faith or send them away as what happened to us because of c & j, 2 'born agains' whose terrible behavior started us on the path of nonbelief.
---cjmybad on 4/25/11


I learned not to believe in everyone that calls themselves a teacher. because there are some whom donot teach what God originally gave us.this includes translations of the bible. This I learned from religious studies of scriptures . however GOd taught me to lean on him & to learn from the lessons in the bible ovelooking mans errors & getting the fruit given (knowledge) that the prophets and jesus came ot teach.
---Candice on 4/25/11


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