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Tenets Of New Covenant

Where does the Bible define the tenets of the New Covenant, and its changes in content from the Old Covenant?

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\\In fact, they all light fires on the Sabbath to cook their foods - forbidden in Exodus 35:3.\\

I've pointed out many times that the internal combustion engine works by lighting hundreds of fires a second, and therefore driving one's car to church on Saturday violates this commandment.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/15/11


Francis:

"you" in Deuteronomy 14:8 is Israel, NOT everyone.

---StrongAxe LEEJ
Keep fooling yourselves

2 Chronicles 19:7 Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you, take heed and do [it]: for [there is] no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.

Job 37:24 Men do therefore fear him: he respecteth not any [that are] wise of heart.

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened [his] mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

Romans 2:11 For there is no respect of persons with God.
---francis on 5/16/11


You might as well ask that same question about all the animals destroyed during the flood (except for the ones on the Ark). You would get the same answer.
---StrongAxe on 5/15/11
Keep fooling yourself
Before there waseven and israel for which you said the "YOU" on,ly applies to God said this:
Genesis 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that [are] not clean by two, the male and his female.
---francis on 5/16/11


StrongAxe //"you" in Deuteronomy 14:8 is Israel, NOT everyone.

Francis was told this many times before but he simply refuses to acknowledge that 'you' in many of the OT verses refers to Israel, not Gentiles.

As to James 2:10, if the truth were plainly shown, it would tell us that no Adventists has ever observed the OT Sabbath as it is revealed in Scripture. In fact, they all light fires on the Sabbath to cook their foods - forbidden in Exodus 35:3.

They simply make up their own foolish rules and use them to judge the spirituality of others.
---leej on 5/15/11


StrongAxe//Jesus came to free us from the burden of the law. To say "No, I'd rather stay under that burden, thank you" is to treat his sacrifice with contempt.
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Very true as even the Apostles themselves confessed that they could not keep the law as it was too much of a burden.

Acts 15:10 Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

Usually people who honk the law are the legalists, lacking the Spirit and who seek only to find fault in those that truly live by faith in Christ.
---leej on 5/15/11




francis:

You might as well ask that same question about all the animals destroyed during the flood (except for the ones on the Ark). You would get the same answer.
---StrongAxe on 5/15/11


Francis:

"you" in Deuteronomy 14:8 is Israel, NOT everyone.

James 2:10
"For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all."

Do you shave? Do you wear blended fabrics? Do you use electric light switches, automobiles, TVs, stoves, or washing machines on Friday night or Saturday? Do you let your wife live inside your house during her monthly periods? If you do ANY of these things, you are guilty of ALL (including murder, idolatry, etc.)

Jesus came to free us from the burden of the law. To say "No, I'd rather stay under that burden, thank you" is to treat his sacrifice with contempt.
---StrongAxe on 5/15/11


Is a very poor argument. The Lord God destroyed human beings, why not a few animals?
---Mark_V. on 5/15/11
Genesis 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.

Genesis 13:13 But the men of Sodom [were] wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.


Now what had the pigs done?
Which of Gods laws did the pigs violate?
---francis on 5/15/11


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---Nana

I grew up eating pork too, and black pudding ( blood pudding) But once i understood that this was not the will of God for my life, and that the Law of God required that I eat no pork, i set my HEART to obey God.

A double minded person is one who would doubt that the word of God is the will of God for himself.

Do single minded people occasionaly fall short? YES,

Philippians 3:12 Not as though I had already attained, either were already perfect: but I follow after, if that I may apprehend that for which also I am apprehended of Christ Jesus.


Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.
---Francis on 5/15/11


Axey: "Consider a woman who marries a man whom, unknown to her, is already married."

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at, but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,

Technically, yes, it is a sin. But God does not count it as sin when done in ignorance, and was not wilful sin.
---jerry6593 on 5/15/11




MarkV: Why do you believe that anyone who disagrees with you is a confederate of Satan. If someone accused you of such a thing, you would be outraged. Could you please come up to an adult level in your discussions?
---jerry6593 on 5/15/11


Francis, that argument you gave about Jesus concerning swine, you said
"Do you think Jesus would destroy a food source?
Matthew 8:32"


Is a very poor argument. The Lord God destroyed human beings, why not a few animals?

And Jerry says to Nana for him to change to what he (Jerry) sees as offensive to God. Again making judgment on someone who has his own conscience of what is sin. Then says the only changes he sees in the New T. are but a few. What about Jesus Christ? Does that not change who you are? As I said before, most of your comments are as though the Spirit does not live a persons heart. As if the person is along working his way through life to be saved.
---Mark_V. on 5/15/11


Nana: "I am from Puerto Rico originally and grew up eating pork. Also, my
Parents were not church going people"

I grew up under similar circumstances, although not in Puerto Rico. But when, as an adult, I studied the Bible for myself, I changed my lifestyle to that which was not offensive to God - out of love for Him. You can change, too!


Samuel: I'm looking for scriptures that state specific changes from the OC to the NC. The only changes that I can find are in the location of the law and in the sacrificial system. I maintain that the Law was unchanged, and that many Christians try to use the NC as a license to sin.
---jerry6593 on 5/14/11


---Nana on 5/14/11
Let me see if i understand you. You are offended because I posted that if the law of God is in your heart you simple do not eat swine?Well lets see what the Law of God says:

Deuteronomy 14:8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it [is] unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

Are you offended now at God?

Do you think Jesus would destroy a food source?
Matthew 8:32 And he said unto them, Go. And when they were come out, they went into the herd of swine: and, behold, the whole herd of swine ran violently down a steep place into the sea, and perished in the waters
---Francis on 5/14/11


micha9344:

There is a great difference between black-and-white ("do" vs. "do not") laws like "don't kill", and laws that set arbitrary limits, like speed limits. There is no specific public policy benefit that is gained by making people drive 56 go 55 that is totally lacking by not making them go 54. Such laws are statistical guidelines, and totally arbitrary.


jerry6593:

Consider a woman who marries a man whom, unknown to her, is already married. Technically, she may be committing adultery, but spiritually she is not, since she is unaware of it and has no desire to do so.
---StrongAxe on 5/14/11


To get back more to the original topic. The New Covenant is not exactly defined in any one place in the New Testament. Instead the New Testament give an ongoing process of change.

The reason the first jerusalem convention was done to help establish the basis for the change. When all the members of the church were Jews it was not a problem. Gentile converts made it more difficult.

Many of the First Gentile converts were those the Jews called GOD fearers. Those who kept Sabbath did not eat unclean food went to synagouges but were not circumsied.

Many in the Early church hated jews and tied to sperate too far from the foundation. Which is why we have this discussion today.
---Samuel on 5/14/11


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"If the Law of God is in your heart you just do not eat swine."
James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."
---francis on 5/11/11
That is what I find offensive and fault you for.

I am from Puerto Rico originally and grew up eating pork. Also, my
Parents were not church going people but they taught us that there
is a God in whose light and presence we should walk always, for our
own good.

We all are doubleminded francis, the flesh is weak. Therefore, if we
have no charity we are nothing.
---Nana on 5/14/11


Jerry, I'm use to people who disagree with my answers or those who don't like for me to disagree run out of opinions, because many don't even give Scripture but opinions, turn to their defender (satan) when they are in the greatest need. I believe you are not the first one, but about the sixth one, so you are not along. You have company.
---Mark_V. on 5/14/11


---Nana on 5/12/11 sorry, i did not understand what you are trying to say.


James 1:6 But let him ask in faith, nothing wavering. For he that wavereth is like a wave of the sea driven with the wind and tossed.

James 1:7 For let not that man think that he shall receive any thing of the Lord.

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Here is the whole context, I guess i did not see how what you wrote fit into that context
---francis on 5/13/11


MarkV: "Jerry, you could have used God's word for an answer but instead decided to use satan, as so many others."

Why? Every time I quote scripture to you, you either ignore it or claim that it doesn't apply to you, the "chosen" one. Just where did you get the idea that I "used Satan"? I don't own a Satanic Bible, have never read it, and never will. But, I would speculate that it doesn't mention speed limits. Get a grip!
---jerry6593 on 5/13/11


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Jerry, you could have used God's word for an answer but instead decided to use satan, as so many others. Is that the best you can do? You can speak about speed limits but you don't have to bring the enemy into your answers to defend your argument, when you have so much of God's word to use.
---Mark_V. on 5/12/11


micha: Are you saying that all laws are subject to private interpretation, or just speeding laws and the Ten Commandments? Can you give me an example of how the spirit of a Commandment may be kept without keeping the letter of it? Take adultery, for instance. Can you commit the act while keeping the spirit of the Law? If not, then your argument is without merit.
---jerry6593 on 5/12/11


francis 2 of 2
Likewise, my people were strangers to the Lord's people and we were raised in our father's footsteps. We were those of the uncircumcision, even in our diet. That is how we were found and to this day how we are, even in God's commonwealth.

1Cor. 7:18 "Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised."
Col. 2:16-17 "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ."

Why ye want to make me "twofold more the child of hell than yourselves."?
---Nana on 5/12/11


francis 1of 2
"I hardly think That Jesus would Go against his own words. In other words this is never going to change from OT to NT. If the Law of God is in your heart you just do not eat swine.

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."
---francis on 5/11/11

Exodus 22:21 "Thou shalt neither vex a stranger, nor oppress him: for ye were strangers in the land of Egypt."

You are making me very sad francis. A "doubleminded man" is one who expects and demands of others more than they demand of themselves.
"If the Law of God is in your heart", you would not sin? But if you do sin, that is your confession that you too are doubleminded!
---Nana on 5/11/11


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Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one [tree] in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

I hardly think That Jesus would Go against his own words. In other words this is never going to change from OT to NT. If the Law of God is in your heart you just do not eat swine.

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
---francis on 5/11/11


Dear mark I said eating unclean food is unhealthy. I did not say it would send you to hell. To me it is like the rule wash your hands before you eat. A good health rule. Vegetarinaism is another topic.

I am sorry about your sister. One of my sisters got mixed up with a Charistmatic group and she refused to go to the doctor for her cancer and died from it. So I understand how you feel.

Ellen G. White did not suggest a hard fast rule against all meat. She did advocate vegetarinam where practacal and done right.
---Samuel on 5/11/11


Speed limit 55-the letter of the law.
Officers may be told only catch those over 60-the grace from authority.
Officers may also set their timing devices to 65-the grace from your neighbor.
Now in comes the Spirit, why is the speed limit set to what it is? Is it not for the safety of yourself and those around you? Are not certain people, like firemen, police, and medical personnel, permitted to break that limit in regards to another's well-being?
Isn't it by the letter of the law that we get ticketed? Isn't it by the spirit of the law that many lives are kept and protected?
Following laws just because we are told to is not love.
It is the Law of Liberty which shows the heart-Love your God and Love your neighbor.
---micha9344 on 5/11/11


MarkV: "Jerry, lets test you theory another way. Let's say the speed limit on the highway is 55 on Saturday's only, and the rest of the week no speed limit"

That's silly! Can you imagine the expense and confusion of changing all the speed limit signs in an entire nation twice a week? Speed limit signs, like the Ten Commandments, are permanent, fixed and a statement of law based on the fixed principles of a higher authority.

When lawlessness rules, you have confusion (Babylon) and Satan is in charge. It was Satan who inspired the Beast to "think to change times and laws". Whose side are you on?
---jerry6593 on 5/11/11


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Samuel, here I disagree with you again. That view is legalistic view of the law which comes from the teachings of Ellen White, that is why she teached vegetarism. Jesus answered that question in Mark 7:18,19.
The Jehovah Witnesses do the same with the blood. They condemn the blood yet I see not many vegetarians. Most all eat meat, and not a one can remove all the blood from the meat. Yet my sister died because she refused blood transfusion. Oh, as a reformer I can say, "it was the will of God" but I can also say that God gave us a brain to think, God has gifted many great doctors to save people. Of course it was her choice, just the same as it is your choice with meats.
---Mark_V. on 5/11/11


Well Donna I cannot argue for eating too much salt and sugar. So you are right on that they are bad for you.

Yes if you cook them properly you will probably kill the parasites so you can eat the dead paristies with them. But shellfish are dangerous also for the fact they spread diseases like cholera and many eat them raw. They also concentrate pollution since they are bottom feeders.

If you ever watch enemny within on you will find people still get worms from eating pork. My wife refuses to watch that show. She says it is too gross.
---Samuel on 5/11/11


Samuel-- //The laws of health like wash your hands before you eat, do not eat what is bad for you and use sanitation. They will shorten your life if not followed.//

Nobody could argue with this. But what is "bad for you to eat" is debatable. We now know that pork and shellfish were forbidden to the early Jews because they can carry parasites harmful to humans...IF the meat is not cooked thoroughly.

With today's cooking methods, excesses of salt and sugar are undoubtedly more dangerous than pork or shrimp.

Rom 14:20 For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure, but it is evil for that man who eateth with offence.
---Donna66 on 5/10/11


Yes Mark the HOLY SPIRIT is our guide. But He will not guide us contrary to scripture.

The ceremonial laws are done away with for they pointed to JESUS. The laws of health like wash your hands before you eat, do not eat what is bad for you and use sanitation. They will shorten your life if not followed.

JESUS is the standard so that is why we should follow Him and his example.
---Samuel on 5/10/11


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Samuel 2: As Moulder (from X-files) once said, "We are not along" us believers. The Holy Spirit is there to guide us unto all Truth. God, the Holy Spirit is a law unto Himself. God acts according to His own moral character. It is the ultimate standard of perfection. Christ in us is the ultimate standard of righteousness and the supreme norm for judging right and wrong. Only God can set aside for historical reasons the letter of the law concerning the dietary and ceremonial laws of Israel. Human beings never have the authority to set aside God's law.
---Mark_V. on 5/10/11


Samuel, Paul is saying that with his mind he serves the law of God, which is the spirit of the law. And with the flesh the law of sin (v.23) "But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity which is in my members." Which is what I have been trying to tell you, francis, David, our sufficiency is in Christ.
Paul speaks of these two law now that He knows Christ, explained in 2 Cor. 3:5,6,
" Not that we are sufficient of ourselves, but our sufficiency is from God, who also make us sufficient as ministers of the new Covenant, "not of the letter, (the Law) but of the Spirit for the letter (law) kills, but the Spirit gives life"
---Mark_V. on 5/9/11


Francis, there you go again assuming and passing judgment again. That's why you see Christians walking along trying to keep the letter of the law.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/11
You are right. I should just stand by and let you commit all your sins.
Ezekiel 33:8 When I say unto the wicked, O wicked man, thou shalt surely die, if thou dost not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood will I require at thine hand.

OOPS sorry God says I can't!
---Francis on 5/9/11


Francis, there you go again assuming and passing judgment again. Don't you ever stop to think that believers in Christ are not along. I'm talking about genuine believers. You have them walking all by themselves which is what maybe you do. Trying your best to keep the Saturday Sabbath which is really your grip. Has nothing to do with anything else because you are just as much sinner as anyone else. That's why I told someone else that the Pharisees believed like you and others, that due to their adherence to the letter of the law, they were the children of God. But at the core, this was a denial of the Gospel. The adherence to the Spirit of the law. That's why you see Christians walking along trying to keep the letter of the law.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/11


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Jesus set us "believers" in Christ free from the Law.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/11

So that's why there is so much adultery among believers.
they are " free to do all these things."

Jeremiah 7:9 Will ye steal, murder, and commit adultery, and swear falsely, and burn incense unto Baal, and walk after other gods whom ye know not,

Jeremiah 7:10 And come and stand before me in this house, which is called by my name, and say, We are delivered to do all these abominations
---francis on 5/9/11


Romans 7 is very complicated and has to be read all togheter for understanding. Law is used different ways there. In the flesh we cannot keep the law.

Paul in his conclustion makes this statment.

Rom 7:25 I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God, but with the flesh the law of sin.

Paul is saying we serve the law. What does this mean?
---Samuel on 5/9/11


Jesus set us "believers" in Christ free from the Law. "He, (Jesus) did not set the unbelievers free," they are still very much under the Law, for their unbelieve, which still condemns them.
---Mark_V. on 5/9/11


If I drive 80 on Saturday, I'm breaking the law, and I receive punishment for it, So by making Saturday's legal speek limit of 55, I have broken the law, and once I break one in Scripture, I have broken them all. You made Saturday legal and put me under the law, when God said we were legally free from the law. It's that simple. Either we are bound legally by the Law, or we are not. God say's we are not.
---Mark_V. on 5/8/11


So then because you broke it ONCE are you now free to break it ALL THE TIME. Or because ou broke it once does the law now go away or no longer apply to you?
If you drove 80 on saturdays in a 55 MPH limit do you not expect to get another ticket?
---Francis on 5/9/11


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Hebrews! Jesus is the New Covenant. Jesus not only fulfilled the Law He became the Law for the Christian. The Christian who is alive in Christ fulfills every law because they are doing the whole law of God. For Christ is living, working and abiding in him. The Holy Spirit is living, working and abiding in him. The Father is living, working and abiding in him. When we become born of God we fulfill the Law, when we are filled with the Spirit we overcome sin. We are in Him! Let us live accordingly!
---ivan9398 on 5/9/11


Jesus did not do away with the law. See Matthew 25 ... a clear instruction that we will be judged about our performance of the 2nd commandment
---alan8566_of_UK on 5/9/11


Jerry, lets test you theory another way. Let's say the speed limit on the highway is 55 on Saturday's only, and the rest of the week no speed limit. If I drive 80 on Saturday, I'm breaking the law, and I receive punishment for it, So by making Saturday's legal speek limit of 55, I have broken the law, and once I break one in Scripture, I have broken them all. You made Saturday legal and put me under the law, when God said we were legally free from the law. It's that simple. Either we are bound legally by the Law, or we are not. God say's we are not.
---Mark_V. on 5/8/11


Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

I looked up Fulfilled in Strongs it is also used to be married. When you get married you are fulfilled. Other definitions are

2) to become, i.e. to come to pass, happen

a) of events

3) to arise, appear in history, come upon the stage

a) of men appearing in public

4) to be made, finished

a) of miracles, to be performed, wrought

5) to become, be made

Fulfilled cannot mean done away with for that would make it a synonym for destroyed. Which would make JESUS contridict himself.
---Samuel on 5/8/11


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mima: "When something is fulfilled it is no longer in effect."

Let's test that theory. Suppose that you were speeding and you were stopped by the police and received a ticket. Your kindly father paid the ticket for you, and thus FULFILLED the requirement of the speeding law. Are you now free to speed all you like, or is the speeding law still in place?

It really is that simple.
---jerry6593 on 5/7/11


When something is fulfilled
---mima on 5/6/11
Reading and studying more will help us all.

Matthew 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer [it to be so] now: for thus it becometh us to FULFIL ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS. Then he suffered him.

By your definition, ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS is done away with, and jesus did away with ALL RIGHTEOUSNESS at his baptism.
---Francis on 5/6/11


When we used the term" The law has been done away with" we have reference to the fact that Jesus Christ fulfilled the law. When something is fulfilled it is no longer in effect. However this only applies to the saved. Those who remain lost are definitely still under the law and the full punishment of the law hangs over their heads. Those who believe themselves under the law fail to accredit what Jesus Christ did on the cross of Calvary. It was there on the cross that he destroyed the law as a condemnation and punishment for the believer.
---mima on 5/6/11


Trav: Yes, alleged! Many folks on this site allege that the Law was done away with in New Covenant replaced with grace and love for neighbors. I concur with your answer - that the content of the Law remained constant, ....---jerry6593 on 5/6/11


You had me wondering....couldn't imagine the jerry I knew would think of these as "alleged". You are right though...many seem too. It takes awhile to un-learn what has been taught to us from childhood....even with the weight of so many scriptural witnesses. I've wrestled no differently than many here do. Many years. I am of the doubting Thomas variation. I've found very little on my own...but, pointing watchmen, and scriptural witness confirming pull me along in my trav-EL ing.
---Trav on 5/6/11


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Trav: Yes, alleged! Many folks on this site allege that the Law was done away with in the New Covenant and replaced with grace and love for neighbors. I concur with your answer - that the content of the Law remained constant, but the location (heart vs. stone) and the dispensation of it (melchisedec vs. levitical priesthood) were indeed changed.
---jerry6593 on 5/6/11


Trav & Aka: Slings and daggers notwithstanding, do you have any scriptural references for the alleged change in the tenets of the New Covenant?
---jerry6593 on 5/5/11

jerry, another interesting blog was closed and Trav and I are just jaw-jacking. sorry, we will keep it down.
---aka on 5/5/11


Trav & Aka: ..., do you have any scriptural references for the alleged change in the tenets of the New Covenant?
---jerry6593 on 5/5/11

Alleged?
Change in the Tenents?

Define further for clarity.

Laws specific are not tenets, but tenets seem to build around laws.

Location of these laws changed.
Witten in the heart and mind. Heb 8:10.
Rather than carried on the arm or forehead and taught.
Go direct to one High Priest Christ, rather than through any earthy man priest. (A real problem for egotistical preachers/priest)
---Trav on 5/5/11


the tenets of the New Covenant:

1: Hebrews 8:2 the sanctuary, which the Lord pitched, and not man.

2: Hebrews 8:10 my laws into their mind, and hearts:

3:Hebrews 9:11 Christ being high priest

4: Hebrews 9:12 His own blood

5: Hebrews 9:26 put away sin by the sacrifice of himself.
---francis on 5/5/11


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Trav & Aka: Slings and daggers notwithstanding, do you have any scriptural references for the alleged change in the tenets of the New Covenant?
---jerry6593 on 5/5/11


i am a southpaw, (and a 'pa' in the south)...---aka on 5/3/11

I'm a Pa-Pa. Ur an Ehud branch cuz. Take a sling and dagga.

Jud 3:15But when the children of Israel cried unto the LORD, the LORD raised them up a deliverer, Ehud son of Gera, a Benjamite, a man lefthanded: by him the children of Israel sent a present unto Eglon the king of Moab.

16But Ehud made him a dagger which had two edges, of a cubit length, and he did gird it under his raiment upon his right thigh.

Ju20:16 Among all this people there were seven hundred chosen men lefthanded, every one could sling stones at an hair breadth, and not miss.
---Trav on 5/4/11


//I pull better on the right. Hush you muskies, hush...Gotta listen for those baaaa's,baaaaa's for one in distress...//

i am a southpaw, (and a 'pa' in the south)...i'll also work on Fridays from 'caint' to 'caint' ...from when i caint see on Friday eve to when i caint see on Sat eve...if i here a baa from the well...especially the one Jacob dug.
---aka on 5/3/11


Trav//just bustin' chops, brother.

faith ...especially by those in darkness. He did not see such from those He sought.
You quote Paul...let me. Rom 1:16...
---aka on 5/3/11

10:4 a faith witness nugget. Good one.
(Woman at the well recognized him) Probably a pattern analogy emerging on these women.

If we're gonna pull a sled together full of lamb chops lets load it with witnesses...GOD's.
Lets get these prophet/witnesses involved.
Where are the Greeks, mentioned by the prophets that Paul is utilizing witness of?

Romans 1
1Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of God,

2(Which he had promised afore by his prophets in the holy scriptures,)
---Trav on 5/3/11


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Trav//just bustin' chops, brother.

//Have endless supply of oil. Need some?// No. Dogs were given a keen sense of smell to find scraps even in the darkness.
---aka on 5/3/11


Amen. Amen. Amen.
trav will eat the crumbs off the masters table....and have.
I am the prodigal son. I have fought with the pigs for a morsel. Crumbs much,much better.

My master says to sniff out a sheep.....I'm a sheep dog. Gotta listen for those baaaa's,baaaaa's for one in distress.

Not sure why people have such a problem with that....but,off to do my job.
Hey lets double trace pull a sled together! I pull better on the right. Hush you muskies, hush.
---Trav on 5/3/11


Trav//just bustin' chops, brother.

//Have endless supply of oil. Need some?// No. Dogs were given a keen sense of smell to find scraps even in the darkness. Jesus was marveled by only one thing: faith ...especially by those in darkness. He did not see such from those He sought.

Some dogs go back to their own vomit, and some dogs go to play poker...some sit and wait...become best friend and servant of their master.

You quote Paul...let me. Rom 1:16...

On earth, Immanuel came only for the lost sheep...after risen...God gives this to others...1st to...and then to...

witness: Acts 17:7 (of what?...v.2 and 3). 2Pe 3:15-16. Peter advises tribes not to twist Paul's writings to their own destruction.
---aka on 5/3/11


You can't digest one verse without serving them all.
or are you here to pick up strange women?
---aka on 5/2/11

As you posted on another blog... 125 limit restricts witnesses per post. Will back any scriptural post of mine with witnesses. As many as you desire or available,as many post as it takes.
Now....Trav don't see everything there is to see in all these witnesses...looking only for my scriptural/spiritual questions.

As for strange women or men that think they're one....if you are looking....
I've been married 35years. Not interested, flattering but, no Thank you.
2 Cor 13:1
This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
---Trav on 5/2/11


//Trav on 4/28/11 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days,//

1. who is them
2.and after what days?
---michael_e on 4/29/11

1. House of Israel. 13 separate but,collective nations of. Note below: "that were under first testament".

2. Heb9:15 for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

16For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.

17For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
---Trav on 5/2/11


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Trav, .... but if i just serve the food, He may or may not find you to eat.
Always, remember 5 of 10 will feast. Which half will you hang with?
---aka on 5/2/11

You serve the bread/scripture witnesses I'll provide. He'll eat or hide.
Barb posts a scriptural truth....but, her doubt of Paul is a problem for you? She provoked "u" for witnesses of Paul evidently...have you none?

Thomas doubted also until he had the witness he needed.

5 didn't bring any. 5 did.
Matthew 25
3 They that were foolish took their lamps, and took no oil with them:

Don't know about me...am doing the best I can as I go. Have endless supply of oil. Need some?
---Trav on 5/2/11


//Jesus died and paid the death penalty only for his Kingdom. "I am sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel." Matt 15:24.// -barb

//Barbara...Fair warning. Preachery old preachers here don't approve of scriptures you've posted// -Trav

Trav, other post is closed. Hard man to find, but if i just serve the food, He may or may not find you to eat. Barb contends that Paul is fable writer.

Act 9:15 "Go, for he [Paul] is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel..."

Always, remember 5 of 10 will feast. You can't digest one verse without serving them all. Which half will you hang with? or are you here to pick up strange women?
---aka on 5/2/11


//Tenets of the New Testament= all what the LORD JESUS CHRIST taught and did. Bible Reference= Matthew 28:18-20. I hope this satisfies you Jerry.
---Adetunji on 4/28/11 //

Not really. My question was specifically related to the New Covenant, which I find as a quote in Hebrews from the Old Testament regarding the change in location of the Law (heart vs. stone) but not a word about ANY change in the content of that Law. Jesus also mentions the New Covenant in reference to His blood sacrifice, but again no mention of a change in the Law. Thus, anyone claiming that the New Covenant frees them from obedience to the Law lacks scriptural support.
---jerry6593 on 5/2/11


The central tenent of christianity is "love." The covenant is like a mortgage - the laws are the same, but the terms are different. The old laws are physical in nature, the new laws are spiritual in nature. The old laws says "thou shalt not murder." The new laws says 'even if you think about it' you have murdered in your heart. Can love shine out of an evil heart? Can the Holy Spirit abide in an evil heart?
---Steveng on 5/1/11


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In a nutshell

EARTHLY HIGH PRIEST..Hebrews 3:1 High Priest, Christ Jesus,
EARTHLY SANCTUARY..Hebrews 8:2 the sanctuary which the Lord pitched, and not man.
LIGHT..John 9:5 I am the light of the world.
PASSOVER..1 Corinthians 5:7 Christ our passover
SHEWBREAD..John 6:35 I am the bread
BLOOD OF ANIMALS..Hebrews 9:12.. His own blood
WATER..John 4:14 a well of water springing up into everlasting life.

FEASTS: Passover, pentecost, and unleaven bread have all been fulfiled in time with christ. Day of atonement is NOW.Hebrews 9:26
---francis on 4/29/11


its self explanatory,old testament,old covenant,new testament ,new covenant.old covenant,the law,new covenant,jesus christ,salvation thru him.very simple,not complicated at all,just a matter of choosing now.dont you just love it when people attempt to muddy up the waters?
---tom2 on 4/29/11


//Trav on 4/28/11 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days,//
this covenant says "with them after those days, who is them and after what days?
---michael_e on 4/29/11


Personally I can not find any subject or topic in the New Covenant that was not covered or at least referenced in the Old Covenant.
As far a changes are concerned I agree completely with Francis 4/28/11.
The empowerment for honoring those changes are found in Eze 36:27 "I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do [them]."
Therefore there was no actual "change in content or principle from the Old to the New, simply an exposition, with the exception of the change from man's self efforts to the Father's empowerment through Christ.
---Josef on 4/29/11


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Personally I can not find any subject or topic in the New Covenant that was not covered or at least referenced in the Old Covenant.
As far as changes are concerned I agree completely with Francis 4/28/11.
The empowerment for honoring those changes are found in Eze 36:27 "I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do [them]."
Therefore there was no actual "change in content or principle from the Old to the New, simply an exposition, with the exception of the change from man's self efforts to the Father's empowerment through Christ.
---Josef on 4/29/11


Any one who is sinsere in understanding the New Covenant, will study the book Hebrews. It is in hebrews that the New covenant is contrasted with the old covenant.
The central Focus of the tenants of the New Covenant is Jesus Christ as High priest in the heavenly Sanctuary as opposed to any Man in the earthly, The blood of Jesus as opposed to the blood of bulls and goats.
It also places emphasis on the The LAW OF GOD being writen in our hearts ( by The Holy Spirit) Which was not a condition of the Old covenant as given in Exodus 19:8 and 24:7. This was the covenant promise in Jeremiah 31:31-34 which is repeated the same was in Hebrews 8:9 -11: The fault was not with God, The Law, or the covenant, it was with the people.
---francis on 4/28/11


I believe you have asked a question that no one here can answer.
---michael_e on 4/28/11

The answer with multiple witnesses is there.
It maybe that some will not see or hear. Doctrinally not liking the answer?
Hebrews 10:16
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them,

Jer 31:33/ Just one prophet witnessing.....of....
---Trav on 4/28/11


I believe you have asked a question that no one here can answer.
---michael_e on 4/28/11


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Tenets of the New Testament= all what the LORD JESUS CHRIST taught and did. Bible Reference= Matthew 28:18-20. I hope this satisfies you Jerry.
---Adetunji on 4/28/11


Where does the Bible define the tenets of the New Covenant, and its changes in content from the Old Covenant?

BOOK OF HEBREWS
Mainly 7,89, and 10
---francis on 4/28/11


Where does the Bible define the tenets of the New Covenant, and its changes in content from the Old Covenant?
Blog question

Tenet is included with written package. Translated as love. Probably better seen, as regard,affection,understanding
Hebrews
8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
Hebrews 10:16
This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them,
---Trav on 4/28/11


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