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Why Do People Go To Church

I have noticed an influx of people who will come to church and for no obvious reason after a little while fall away in pursuit of the next best thing. What do you think people are searching for in a church, and why do they never seem to find it?

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I am just a church member of the Seventh day Adventist church and know quite a few members who biblically literate. We have a high percentage who study the bible.

I will agree the Orthodox church was the first church. Even though the RCC disagrees.

I also agree that there is an invisible church that is made up of only true members and that they come from many denominations for GOD alone knows the heart.

The Orthodox church has not acted as a Christian church at all times. With leaders who murdered those who disagreed with them.

They have also elevated their traditions above or equal to the writings of the Apostles and Prophets. Adopting doctrines that are opposed to the teachings of the Apostles.
---Samuel on 5/27/11


\\ No contentious claims of who has the better church. \\

An old priest once said, "Orthodoxy is the right faith given to the wrong people."

You're the only one being contentious. If you weren't, you would simply say, "Let the Lord judge the matter."

BTW--don't you think YOUR church is the true church? If you don't, why do you go to it?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/27/11


//According to Matthew 25, at the Last Judgement, we will not be quizzed on our Biblical understanding.//

Very true. We also will not be quizzed on whether our church was the "first" (which doesn't necessariliy mean "true") or the second or the last... or even whether we attended church at all. God looks on the heart.
---Donna_Smith on 5/27/11


Steveng,
Calm down and let your foot of the gas!
John 17:11 "And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are."

We do have doctrine and traditions passed down through time to us.

Matthew 28:20 "Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
1 Timothy 4:16 "Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine, continue in them: for in doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee."
---Nana on 5/27/11


Cluny:
Stevenq described the TRUE church well.
And Christ is our pastor. The Holy Spirit our teacher.
No divisions. No contentious claims of who has the better church.

RE your point: "we will not be quizzed on our Biblical understanding",
If a churchgoer is ignorant of the gospel but thinks salvation is based on membership of a supposedly "true" church, then thats a big problem.

My experience is many in churches like yours are cultural christians who often claim salvation by their church membership and works.

Being an ex-Catholic, formerly married to an Orthodox woman, attending their church functions, I have some experience with their members understandings.



---Haz27 on 5/27/11




Many of you bicker like little children about who has the better father.

The true church of God does not belong to this world - not the buildings, not the traditions, not the ways of living, not the rituals. The true church of God are the people who belong to the Kingdom of God which is presently not of this world, but is soon to come. We meet where there are two or more in Jesus' name - in the park, on the street corner, in each other's home, or the local cafe.
---Steveng on 5/26/11


"2. To say that we must have "understanding" of the Bible or anything else to be saved is the heresy of Gnosticism.

According to Matthew 25, at the Last Judgement, we will not be quizzed on our Biblical understanding.

Christ is risen! "
---Cluny on 5/26/11

Very true Cluny.
---Nana on 5/27/11


\\Your the one claiming YOUR church is the "TRUE" church.
I'm not claiming any church denomination is the true church.
The onus is on you to prove your church's special claim. \\

You can check this out for yourself in even secular encyclopedias. Do your own homework.

\\Orthodoxy's claim of being the "TRUE" church whilst others are not is both divisive and clearly false.\\

If Orthodoxy isn't the first (which means true) church, then which one is?

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/27/11


Stil waiting for the proof Cluny!
---John on 5/26/11


cluny:
Your the one claiming YOUR church is the "TRUE" church.
I'm not claiming any church denomination is the true church.
The onus is on you to prove your church's special claim.

Orthodoxy's claim of being the "TRUE" church whilst others are not is both divisive and clearly false.

As 1Cor 1:13 says "Is Christ divided?"
Follow Jesus as your pastor/shepherd, not man.
---Haz27 on 5/26/11




\\Your ASSUMPTION is Orthodoxy is that original church and not one of the groups Paul spoke about in 1Cor 1:13.

What proof can you give that Orthodoxy is NOT the original Church?

\\A debate I had with an Orthodox priest some years ago resulted in the priest claiming that even though his congregation had no Biblical understanding they were still in the true church.\\

1. And you think that the average Protestant church has any Biblical understanding?

2. To say that we must have "understanding" of the Bible or anything else to be saved is the heresy of Gnosticism.

According to Matthew 25, at the Last Judgement, we will not be quizzed on our Biblical understanding.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/26/11


cluny:
As I said before, "Is Christ divided?" 1Cor 1:13.

The issue of divisions within the body of Christ started even back in Paul's times. Your ASSUMPTION is Orthodoxy is that original church and not one of the groups Paul spoke about in 1Cor 1:13.

A debate I had with an Orthodox priest some years ago resulted in the priest claiming that even though his congregation had no Biblical understanding they were still in the true church.

Makes you wonder why the so called "true" church would have so many members ignorant of God's word.
---Haz27 on 5/26/11


\\Orthodoxy is PRE-denominational.\\
---Cluny on 5/26/11


No, it sure isn't. Tertullian, Polycarp, Hippolytus, et al, held varying beliefs or doctrinal emphases in one way or another.

That means that each had his own version of Christianity, with devotees, thereby constituting a denomination.

And they are all embraced as church fathers in Orthodoxy, right?
---James_L on 5/26/11


\\But do they follow still the teachings of the Apostles \\

Yes.

It's the WEST that changed things. Protestantism didn't get any closer, and neither did SDA.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/26/11


Yes Orthodox churches existed before any other. But do they follow still the teachings of the Apostles or have they changed them by their traditions?

Remeber all the Apostels were Jews. In the Seventh day Adventist church we have many Jewish members. Some of our best scholars and leaders were raised in Jewish homes. But joined with us after coming to JESUS.

JESUS is risen indeed.
---Samuel on 5/26/11


\\Claims over who follows the true 'church' and rejecting others, leads to contentions/divisions.\\

Not if there really IS a true church, and according to the Bible, there must be one that's visible somewhere.

And Orthodoxy is PRE-denominational.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/26/11


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The apostles baptized adults and it was by immersion. See the didache and the New Testament. Baptism was a Jewish ritual before christianity existed.

Cluny you are right many apostalic churches rejected people who wanted to be rebatized as adults. They often drowned them, or burned them at the stake.

I do not believe the Apostles would apporve of a church that did that.
---Samuel on 5/26/11


"Is Christ divided?" 1Cor 1:13
Claims over who follows the true 'church' and rejecting others, leads to contentions/divisions.

Denominations take our eyes off our one, true pastor/shepherd, Jesus Christ.



---Haz27 on 5/26/11


\\What churches did the apostles belong to?\\

The Church that is today called the Orthodox Church.

\\It surely wasn't me. I don't follow any denominational church doctrine let alone any one person. I only follow what it says in the bible, not of man's interpretation, but using the bible as it's own interpretation and what the Holy Spirit brings to my attention.\\

In other words, as I said, you are the little toenail saying to the rest of the body, "I don't need you."
---Cluny on 5/26/11


Cluny: "You might be in a denomination of just one person, but it's still a denomination."

What churches did the apostles belong to?


Cluny: "Unless I've confused you with someone else (and I may have), did you not say that you believe the "Church age" ended in 1988? This is a Camping teaching."

It surely wasn't me. I don't follow any denominational church doctrine let alone any one person. I only follow what it says in the bible, not of man's interpretation, but using the bible as it's own interpretation and what the Holy Spirit brings to my attention.
---Steveng on 5/25/11


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Cluny--Not particularly curious. That's the way they have done it for centuries. I understand your point.
Some post-reformation churches baptize infants too.

I'm just questioning the statement that those who baptize adults (not only Baptists) cause such "havoc". Havoc among those who baptize infants? Why, if they are sure they are right?
---Donna66 on 5/25/11


Donna, isn't is curious that ALL the Apostolic pre-reformation Churches baptize infants?

Think about it!

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/25/11

PLEASE SHOW ME PROOF OF THESE LUDICROUS STATEMENT!


(I will withhold my laughter until then)
---John on 5/25/11


Donna, isn't is curious that ALL the Apostolic pre-reformation Churches baptize infants?

Think about it!

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/25/11


Many people go to church to be entertained. We should go to church to worship GOD in a corporate body praising his name and encouraging one another.

The Church is also a place where GOD grooms us. How can you learn to live with others you disagree with unless you practice it.
---Samuel on 5/25/11


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Protestant--- What "havoc" are "rude" Baptists causing by not baptizing infants? There are numerous divisions among churches. I'm a bit surprised that you mention this issue. I can think of many doctrines that seem to bring greater chaos than this issue.
---Donna66 on 5/25/11


\\I don't belong to any worldly denomination.\\

In other words, you're a little toenail saying to the rest of the Body, "I have no need of thee!"

You might be in a denomination of just one person, but it's still a denomination.

\\Many churches blacklist me because I would not conform to their teachings.\\

I'd be curious to hear their side of the story.

Unless I've confused you with someone else (and I may have), did you not say that you believe the "Church age" ended in 1988? This is a Camping teaching.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/25/11


"I don't belong to any worldly denomination." (StevenG)

Perhaps not, but you still have your own wordily ways of thinking, traditions, and interpretations of Scriptures. It is true no matter how much you want to deny it or how many times you want criticize other churches. Oh yea, I admit, you give Scriptures to people to look up, but in reality, you give YOUR own interpretation of what the Scripture [s] say or do not say (as the Bible itself is not self-interpreted).

Christ is Risen!

In IC.XC.,
---Ignatius on 5/24/11


Cluny: "Steveng, you're being just as denominational (in your way) as First Methobapterian."

I don't belong to any worldly denomination. I've worked at several churches in the past, but was never a member. Many churches blacklist me because I would not conform to their teachings.

Cluny: "Besides, since you fell for the false prophet Harold Camping's failed prophecy about "judgement" in 1988, you have no room to talk."

Spreading rumors again, eh?

Scripture expressly says that no man, not Jesus nor the angels, know the date of the end. So why should I follow anyone who places a date of the end?
---Steveng on 5/24/11


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\\The City of Constantinople is fallen.\\

As a matter of fact, it's still standing.

Even the modern name Istanbul is from the Greek "Eis tin polin"--unto the City.

And it's still the home of the Orthodox Ecumenical Patriarchate.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/24/11


The City of Constantinople is fallen. Less than two percent of the populations in large parts of Europe attend Church. In North America, rude Baptists who are in the same league with Anabaptists because they reject infant baptism are everywhere wreaking havoc.

The true Church is in the GREAT TRIBULATION.
---Protestant on 5/24/11


\\Most of you are confusing worldly (denominational) churches with the true church of Christ\\

Steveng, you're being just as denominational (in your way) as First Methobapterian.

Besides, since you fell for the false prophet Harold Camping's failed prophecy about "judgement" in 1988, you have no room to talk.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/24/11


John

Stereotype is actually a word that means to duplicate from an original to a copy, but here it is used in the context of perceived interpretive opinion of a particular group or type.

Therefore to lump ALL Churches into your opinionated statement is not factually correct, you are indeed entitled to your opinion but your not entitled to have it received as fact.

Ro 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.

Paul
---paul on 5/24/11


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Paul, Stereotyping is by far the MOST accurate measurement of a person or group.

It is based on more than 1 million inputs into the sub-concious and is A very accurate acessment.
In this case, what is today called Church. I have yet in all my travels, readings studies, and lectures have seen a SINGLE G-d fearing true to scripture based church

NOT ONE! NOT EVEN CLOSE!

(Yet you hear the peverbial "We only go by scipture only"... PLEEAASSEE!
---John on 5/22/11


Most of you are confusing worldly (denominational) churches with the true church of Christ. The true church of Christ does not belong to this world. Denominational churches preach a false hope. The preachers and the teachers are nothing more than wolves in sheeps clothing leading people astray.

Today's churches, the denominations, the worldly churches that Satan has corrupted, offer a delusion making people think they are christians, but are not. God has sent the people of today a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie thinking that they are christians, but are not.
---Steveng on 5/22/11


John

I understand your concerns, but you cant lump all Churches into that stereotype.


You are attempting to structure an ideology that is contrary to Gods Word, I would strongly consider any endeavor that goes against God
For the out come will not be good for you.

Paul
---paul on 5/21/11


Mark Eaton

That is awesome my friend, and I'm praying God will continue the work He has started in you.

2Ti 2:1 You therefore, my son, be strong in the grace that is in Christ Jesus.
2 And the things that you have heard from me among many witnesses, commit these to faithful men who will be able to teach others also.
3 You therefore must endure hardship as a good soldier of Jesus Christ.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 5/21/11


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So what is Chruch?
It is simply a gathering place for believers.

Your spiritual teachings is your personal walk with G-d.

WHY?

Because you have only one Teacher(the Holy Spirit) One Father(G-d) and one Priest(Christ).

SO WHY CHURCH?

It's the gathering of believers to..
1)Have the Lord's Supper

2) Fellowshipping/NOT WHAT THE PSEUDO BOURGOISE CALL FELLOWSHIPPING. Where you stuff you face with the Pork of Potluck and talk about Bobs Golf game or Emmas Apple Pie.

FELLOWSHIPPING IS..

When believers gather together to dicuss strategies, Scripture, Prophecies, Teachings, church business,prayer/praise, healings etc.

Socialising was outside the Sanctuary/of/Church.
(Hit125words)
---John on 5/21/11


Churches today from the Orthos to the latest Rock/Roll fad... ALL teach their traditions. And yet ALL will say "We go by scripture only!" LOL!

"And they will be teaching the traditions of MEN as doctrines of G-d." (i.e. Easter/Christmas etc.)
Matt 15:9

IN THE END..

"People will want to hear what tickles their ears."2Tim 4:3

And they will defend their traditions even against the Throne of G-d Himself!
Mark 7:8
So their you have it!

What is called Church today are Pseudo, Bougoise, Carnal Facades of Pietie, posing as Christians(i.e Social Clubs).

AND THE WORLD SEE THROUGH YOUR HYPROCRISY!!!

---John on 5/20/11


I havent been to a church in a long time. They just arnt what they use to be. Its all about money, sin and comdemnation. Where is the life?
---calhoon on 5/20/11


1st_cliff said:
"I feel that denominations are "packaged" religions.
IE. One is assumed to embrace all the doctrines of "that" church"
---1st_cliff on 5/17/11

True.
Who do we follow?
Is Christ your pastor/shepherd or is it man?
---Haz27 on 5/20/11


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Wow, I am shocked as I read this blog.

I agree with Paul and Mark V. that the Church is the blood-bought people of God and that we need to be part of it, not parted from it.

Having said that, I have recently left a church after attending there for ten years. I did not leave out of anger or frustration. I left out of opportunity. I have been trained and equipped by my church and now it is time for me to go out and find a place to serve. I have since found a small church in a bad part of town that is in need of someone who is willing to serve. And so far its been wonderful.

What the BOC is missing is willingness to serve others.
---Mark_Eaton on 5/20/11


aka - my wounds will heal in time, I see and feel the consquences of their lies and deciept every day, so I cannot just say 'it's forgiven it never happened' Time heals all wounds and thankfully my family and friends help in many ways. I just wish reparations would have happened and our lives could have healed must faster. I already feel stronger in myself because I had to make myself stronger to deal with it. Thank you for your advice, you sound very caring.
---cjmybad on 5/20/11


If God, cant be found in a Church were all doomed.
---Paul on 5/20/11

TRUE!

I've described "Churches" of Today, and the Pagan Traditional churches of yesterday.

Todays "Churches" are embarassed of Jesus, so they add evil to bring in people. (i.e. Lets have Rock Bands/ during the concert we can slip in the BITTER medicine called Jesus. Then they might "APPROVE OF JESUS"(AKA: Make a decsion for)then the 1 minute Get "out of hell" sinners prayer ticket. You don't want to disturb people over Christ.


WHEN CHURCHES MARRY THE WORLD, THEY DIVORCE THE CHRIST!

AS THE LORD SAID...

"WHEN I RETURN WILL I FIND THE FAITH...

SADLY THE ANSWER IS NO!!!
---John on 5/20/11


Before I got saved I went becasue I didn't want to go to hell & felt that "going to church" kept me. It was like an obligation that cleared my conscience for a little while.
I didn't find what I was looking for until I received Jesus into my life. After doing so I didn't feel obligated but liberated as far as attending church. It felt like "church", as we call it, became fellowship w/ God instead of a religious duty.
---Rickey on 5/20/11


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kostas

If God, the author of peace, cant be found in a Church were all doomed.
Paul
---Paul on 5/20/11


People are looking for something that cannot be found in a church or anywhere else. It's called peace. That comes from Directly from God and from knowing, that you have done your best, to serve him....whether in church or anywhere else, where someone needed you to be there for them.
---kostas on 5/19/11


cjmybad,

your wounds would heal better without a scar if you would quit licking and picking.

most often, the point of mend is the strongest.
---aka on 5/19/11


People who are lost in a dry desert seek for thirst quenching water. So it is for those in need of God.
They come to church looking for hope and inspiration, a
place to quench that
spiritual thirst.
Jesus had once said "you search the scriptures for in them you think you have life, but you will not come to me that you might have life."
It takes more than head knowledge of the scriptures to come to Christ, you must
believe in Christ completely, keep his words,
and allow them to take deep root in your heart.
The human soul was made for God, has a need for God, and until that soul finds and is reconnected to God will always have a void.
Whether they realize it or not, this is what people are searching for!
---eliza4984 on 5/18/11


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Paul I am very happy that God dealt with them the next day and you had a happy ending. Even though we had a lot of people praying for help to deal with the 2 scheming deciving people that hurt us, no help came. Maybe if he dealt with them the same way he helped you, we too would have had a good ending to our story.
---cjmybad on 5/18/11


Sag, I agree. When a person only looks at the negative things of life, you can find so much to be negative about. I went to many churches when I moved, and it took us about two months to find a good teaching church. One with not too much music and more of the word of God. One which is not afraid to speak on behalf of God. Churches today speak on behalf of man. It would have to be a God centered church. Not man centered or church. I tell brothers to try to find a good church. I don't teach anyone to leave because I don't like it. They have to see for themselves and make their own minds. The Holy Spirit will direct us, and we will know the Truth.
---Mark_V. on 5/18/11


Paul, Mark V:

About getting HURT, DISCOURAGED, BETRAYED, etc.

I've been to several churches. My own personal opinion is that I, myself, was at least part of the problem. Yes -- me, Me, ME!

I would go to a church with the EXPECTATION that the Church, it's Leaders, other Attendees, Schedules, Events, etc. would be 100% PERFECT. And that I would NEVER get disappointed or anything. In the imperfect world that we live in, I was setting myself up for trouble. Why? That is an impossible dream.

Through all of this, I learned what the Bible clearly says: only GOD is completely perfect. We need to realize that. Difficult as it might be at times. Cut the imperfect church some slack. Forgive it's imperfections too.
---Sag on 5/18/11


Paul, everything you said is very true. I could not agree more with your answer. What I hear from many here, is giving advice to leave the Church that was ordained by God which has the name of Jesus on it. No where are we taught or given advice to believers not to go to Church. Scripture tells us of the many problems that existed in the Church even at the beginning, yet nowhere does it say that those members who believe were to leave the church and teach others to leave. They have bad experiences and suddenly because someone did something to them, they blame all the churches. We are told the visible church has tares and wheat in them, but we are not taught to abandon the Church, but warned to watch out for those who teach against the Church.
---Mark_V. on 5/18/11


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It would seem that a lot of people have been hurt and discouraged in Church.

I understand for I have as well, in my early years as a associate Pastor I had the Senior Pastor ask me to step down due to unfounded rumors.

The very next day God dealt with him and he apologized and reinstated me but it was never the same again.

But I went on for God realizing that the Church is orchestrated and ordained by God for the furthering of the Gospel, equipping the saints and building the Kingdom of God

If people don't understand the purpose of a true Church they are the ones missing out on a network of resources developed to grow Christians.

He who wonders alone wonders long.


Paul
---paul on 5/17/11


The influx is a good sign and praying churches are discerning churches which reach out to the influx because they are looking but are not sure what they are looking for....
People are hurting and searching now more than ever.
Churches who understand the community as a mission field usually handle the influx best.
---larry on 5/17/11


Excellent Point AKA!!!
---John on 5/17/11


John - you hit the nail on the head exactly when you said "You can be a "Pretend-A-Christian" and act "Pious", be nice, and non-judgemental(Act like we all love each other/The I'm ok, You're ok Pietie )."
Found that out with church folks like C & J who we thought we trust worthy but are just scheming liars. Amen brother!
---cjmybad on 5/17/11


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the church is for the sick and the hungry just as a hospital is to the wounded and hurt. But i go to worship the Lord and i also go to be fed his word, this doesn't mean that all the people there will be perfect and fit into your mold for they wont be just as your biological family has problems ............if ever you find a perfect church after you join it well it wont be anymore. We are human beings with flaws and imperfections but we strive to be more Christ like daily, so lets try to live in peace and harmony just like Jesus has ask us to do.
---Lea on 5/17/11


//Obviously this is a pretty severe problem in the Body of Christ...
I simply want to see people in Church where they can grow and flourish.

---paul on 5/16/11//

The body of Christ is not determined by church memberships.

Many in churches do not grow. And many non-church members do grow.

The Holy Spirit is our teacher. Christ is our pastor. Trust in God.
---Haz27 on 5/17/11


They are searching for love and fellowship and probably find hypocrites and liars and fake Christians just like on here.

The kind that make holier than thou comments and then get found out to be liars.

This place is full of phony hypocrites and unloving people just like in a lot of churches.

However, just keep trying to find a church with at least a few decent people that you can relate to.
---poopsey on 5/17/11


//No. not in the body of Christ. the bodies that say they are in Christ.
---aka on 5/17/11//
big Amen
---michael_e on 5/17/11


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I personally no longer attend a "church"(denomination)because I feel that denominations are "packaged" religions.
IE. One is assumed to embrace all the doctrines of "that" church--Baptist,Presbyterian,Methodist,LDS,SDA etc..leaving little or no room for personal beliefs!
If you leave Islam for Christianity you're a candidate for execution!
---1st_cliff on 5/17/11


//Obviously this is a pretty severe problem in the Body of Christ according to a lot of these answers//

No. not in the body of Christ. the bodies that say they are in Christ.
---aka on 5/17/11


I agree with James_L and John.

I've grown more in my Christian walk outside of church than in them.

Christ is our only shepherd/pastor.
Not those church leaders we see there now telling us to fill their pockets with tithes.
---Haz27 on 5/17/11


People leave a church for many different reasons. It may be that the Holy Spirit is absent. It may be that the Holy Spirit is present. Why they come in the first place is possibly related to why they leave. If they come looking for the Truth, and the church is apostate, they may leave. If they come for social or other self centered reasons, and it's a true church, they may leave. Leaving a church and falling away are not one and the same. Some that leave may fall away, but we ought to be careful how we judge
---christina on 5/17/11


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AMOS 8,11 Behold,the days are coming, saying the LORD GOD,That I will send a famine on the land, Not a famine of bread, nor a thirst of water, But of hearing the word of the LORD.

AMOS 8:12 They shall wander from sea to sea, And from north to east,They shall run to and fro, seeking the word of the LORD, But shall not find it.
---RICHARDC on 5/16/11


Can't really know all the reasons why people go, but I can agree with:

\\NO G-D THERE!!!

FACADES OF CHRISTIANITY!

"Do I hear an AMEN???"\\
---John on 5/16/11


Amen, brother. Regardless of why people go in the first place, the church is supposed to be a place for truth.

But how can people find truth among biblically illiterate people?

In most churches the Christian walk boils down to 3 points:
Church attendance
Pay your tithes
Obey some rules

Is that ever going to keep anyone?
---James_L on 5/16/11


WOW
I never thought this question would arouse so much passion and venom from the readers.

It was never meant to, I feel it is a legitimate question which would perhaps lead to civil conversation about church growth.

Obviously this is a pretty severe problem in the Body of Christ according to a lot of these answers it would appear their are a lot of axes to grind.

I simply want to see people in Church where they can grow and flourish.

Didn't mean to pick so many scabs.

Paul
---paul on 5/16/11


by far these people believe that worship is something that takes place within the walls of a building,this is usually reflected in their lifestyles,church on sunday,living like hell the rest of the week
---tom2 on 5/16/11


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TO JOIN A COUNTRY CLUB!!!

Its free and you get to eat Potlucks, have Senior activities, Youth activities. Woman activities and Mens activities.

The Boys and Girls club and the other country clubs, costs money!

Thats it!!!

NO G-D THERE!!!

But good potato salad and apple pie, good rock bands, and great Men's breakfast!

You can be a "Pretend-A-Christian" and act "Pious", be nice, and non-judgemental(Act like we all love each other/The I'm ok, You're ok Pietie ).

And be...

PSUEDO CARNAL BEORGIOUS FACADES OF CHRISTIANITY!

"Do I hear an AMEN???"
"AMEN PREACHER!"

Now lets have some Corn...
---John on 5/16/11


I've noticed that many people come to church looking for a spouse. Single Parents, Divorced, Never Married, Separated, etc.

While there is nothing Illegal or Wrong with looking for that, I think that many people are using Churches to do what they should be trusting GOD for.

In another cycle of the revolving-door syndrome, they eventually get discouraged that they can't find their King or Queen. Then it's off to the next church.
---Sag on 5/16/11


from my experience, no church body has ever called us after we "fell away". so, how do you know for sure that they never find it?

what some are looking for is a meaningful relationship to the "church family" (every church claims to have one) as they found in Jesus. but, the only thing they find is a church building full of people that do not know how to relate.

Maybe, they fall away because what they seek in that particular church can offer is not there...a true family that cares for them when church is not in session.

i can't speak of the other people who fall away.
---aka on 5/16/11


People leave churches for various reasons, and does not mean that the one who leaves has fallen away from anything: sometimes the church is guilty of offense, sometimes the person went to the church for the wrong reason, sometimes the time of the service conflicts with the persons schedule, etc.
---Eloy on 5/16/11


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If you want to know what they are searching for, why don't you ask THEM, not us?

However, trendiness has been a plague of evangelists since St. Paul and the men of Mars Hill, who only gathered to hear the latest thing.
---Cluny on 5/16/11


1) reason is people in church have a consumer mind set. Go to church feel convicted of sin or go to church for the Sunday checklist." A producer mind set is what God calls us to be, example Acts. We are called to be servants like Jesus to each other. This prevents us from being selfish to being givers. Also having a service/volunteering at the church will allow you to be involved and committed to the church. Being a producer can come in many forms like daycare, choir, production, greeters, care team etc. 2nd) People are searching for true community in our fast pace world. Not the christian prom of "I am great" though I just cussed out my wife, car does not work, Babies sick, or any other thing that happens
---Scott on 5/16/11


Pray for the people who come and go, be good example while we have them with us, get to know them so we can understand each one > each one is not really just one more person like everyone else . . . not a statistic that can fit in some general reason for why they come and stay or go. Give them what is right so God can use this after we see them if we don't keep in touch. Ones are in relationships with Christians while they move. God can use the real-life example of their Christian friends.
---Bill_willa6989 on 5/16/11


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