Did Judas Go To Heaven
Did the Judas who betrayed Jesus go to heaven? Matthew 27 tells he was grieving over taking thirty pieces of silver for the betrayal, took it to the temple to give the priests, who refused it as blood money, and Judas threw the silver down as he left, and went and hanged himself. Did God forgive him?
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---Geraldine on 5/20/11
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When I die I will close my eyes and then open them and see JESUS coming in the clouds. For me to die is gain for I will be in the presence of JESUS.
I believe the dead are asleep in the grave. But when I die I will not know of any time passing. So I will in effect go straight to be with JESUS.
On many night I close my eyes then hear my alarm sound. While I am rested it seems like no time at all. I wish it was that way every night.
---Samuel on 5/27/11|
Cluny: "I guess the verses,... are not in your Bible."
Of course they are, but you misinterpret them. They do not mention self-existence as a non-corporeal entity or immediate transition to heaven at death. Does not your Bible contain myriad verses which describe death as an unconscious state and immortality gained at the resurrection when Jesus returns in the clouds? Of course it does, but you seem blind to ALL those scriptures which don't line up with your man-made doctrines.
---jerry6593 on 5/27/11|
\\The Bible teaches that when a person dies,he/she returns to the grave to await\\
I guess the verses, "For me to live is Christ, and death is gain," and "Absent from the body, present with the Lord," are not in your Bible.
Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/26/11|
No, Judas did not go to heaven The Bible teaches that when a person dies,he/she returns to the grave to await
one of two resurections.
You write that Judas was "grieved" implying that he was sorry for what he did.
Not so! he was upset that his deal did not go through. So I think it is fair to say that Judas did not ask God to forgive him and therefore he sealed his future with the hopeless act of commiting suicide.
---Pierre on 5/26/11|
Michael, it is my belief that all salvation is through the death and resurrection of Jesus. The only thing I think we disagree on is the scope of that salvation. There would be no salvation at all without Jesus. God bless. :-)
---John.usa on 5/24/11|
No, He did not ask Jesus for any forgiveness, but instead he was reponsible for using a kiss to have the Innocent and the Holy Jesus taken by violent hands and beaten and stripped and spat on and crucified by sinners, and then he himself went and killed himself.
---Eloy on 5/24/11|
Paul: "King David arose with the Saints upon Jesus resurrection."
The lack of biblical knowlege on this website is astounding! The following verses were written long after the Resurrection:
Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens:
---jerry6593 on 5/24/11|
johnusa's doctrine of universal salvation makes Christ's death, burial, and resurrection of no effect and thus is a false doctrine.
There is no use preaching a gospel that, in the long run, does not matter anyway if all end up in the same place.
---micha9344 on 5/24/11|
Warwick, we've both said what we wanted to say now about Myth. This blog is about Judas. You can respond to that. Enjoy your evening! :-)
---John.usa on 5/23/11|
John, we have dictionaries, such as the Oxford, where linguistic experts define the meaning/s of various words. This gives us a foundation to understand what a word means.
Words do change meaning over time, often because people, in ignorance, use a word incorrectly. However meaning change doesn't become universal (if it ever does) overnight.
I believe the way you use 'myth' is incorrect and misleading, as it stops others from understanding what you really mean.
On solid grounds I reject the use of 'myth' when referring to the historical truth of Genesis. By using 'historical truth' I make it easy for people to understand what I mean. Conversely your incorrect use of myth hides your meaning. Why do you do this?
---Warwick on 5/23/11|
Remorse is not the same as repentance, that is turning from sin to God. Having confidence in God to save oneself is necessary in order to be saved, which Judas Iscariot did not have.
John 6:70, 13:18-27, 17:12, Acts 1:16-20.
---Glenn on 5/23/11|
\\Mt 27:52 And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints which slept arose\\
It says, "many,' not, "all."
Therefore you have no reason to assume that King David was among them.
Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/23/11|
Gordon, I think you have it backwards. The lie from Satan is that most people will burn in hell forever. Satan loves that doctrine, because if it is true, he wins and God loses. But God is love, and in the end, Love wins. God bless you. :-)
---John.usa on 5/22/11|
King David arose with the Saints upon Jesus resurrection.
Mt 27:52 And the graves were opened, and many bodies of the saints which slept arose
---paul on 5/22/11|
Why don't we leave that upto God? His thoughts are not our thoughts. His ways are not our ways. And his mercy is a lot greater than ours.
---kostas on 5/22/11|
John: Judas WAS drawn to Christ, and was a close companion for a few years. But he betrayed Jesus, and was lost. And, not everyone will be saved:
Mat 7:13,14 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Very few have actually gone to heaven. Most, like King David, are still in the grave awaiting the resurrecting at Jesus' 2nd coming.
---jerry6593 on 5/21/11|
John.usa, What you last said is from a doctrine called "Universalism". Universalism is a belief that all of mankind, past, present and future, will be saved and will all go to Heaven. Universalism is a False Doctrine. It is a Lie from Satan to keep people from doing what they need to do to really get to Heaven. One must acknowledge their sin, repent of their sin and receive in Faith the Salvation by the shed Blood of YAHUSHUA (JESUS). We know that there will be people who will end up in the Eternal Lake of Fire, with Satan, those that take the Mark of the Beast. Read REVELATION 14:9-11 and 20:11-15. Universalism cannot be supported by the Holy Scriptures!
---Gordon_Gharis on 5/21/11|
Being wishful about a wrong person does not get that person to Heaven. If the throne of judgment is in Heaven, then all will go there to be judged, in Heaven, then "a number" will not stay. Satan was not satisfied with Heaven. He was there! But Heaven wasn't good enough for him. There are people who consider Jesus not to be good enough for them. This is very conceited.
Guilt-tripping and punishing yourself does not get you to Heaven > 2 Corinthians 7:10. Jesus Himself is the way (John 14:6), not what Judas did with himself!
---Bill_willa6989 on 5/21/11|
\\No. There is no heaven.\\
---atheist on 5/20/11
Do you have any scriptures to back up that claim?
---James_L on 5/21/11|
Hi Warwick. I think this topic isn't about myth. In any case, it is not wordsmiths who define words, it is usage. There is usually more than one definition of a word. I define myth according to what can be found, for example, in Karen Armstrong's book, 'A Short History of Myth.' If you don't like my usage of a word, that's okay. We all have different understandings of many things.
---John.usa on 5/21/11|
Will Judas be forgiven? That is strictly up to God, as Judas was specifically created to betray Jesus and without that event Christs mission would have been a failure, to facilitate Gods pre-chosen elect to move from their original Patria Protesta into the Gods family by adoption, where the death of Christ pays the price of that transfer. Jesus enjoys the right of the natural first born in Gods family and all other members of Gods family are there by adoption. This was Judas and Christ primary purpose for without the betrayal there would have been no crucifixion and without the crucifixion there would have been no resurrection.
---Blogger9211 on 5/21/11|
True Cluny just being hanged does not make a person cused.
Judas committed suicide. The Biblical evidence is clear he did not repent and was in league with the devil wether he meant to be or not. He was also a thief and not mention of repentance is made of that either.
John you apparently believe in Universalism that all will be saved. So then the new earth will be filled with the same hateful people who live now. So in heaven I will have to lock my doors and we need the police for nothing will be fixed.
---Samuel on 5/22/11|
John if you think carefully about it it is not about how you or I define a word, but how it is defined by the wordsmiths. If every word was open to personal definition language would lose its meaning.
Surely idf you are talking of historical reality 'myth' is a confusing, and inappropriate word.
---Warwick on 5/21/11|
Michael, Judas did perish and was destroyed in the flesh, and lost to the twelve. But Jesus will draw him to Himself, as He has promised He will draw the whole human race. When that happens, everyone will believe, and the whole creation will be reconciled to God. That is such good news! :-)
---John.usa on 5/20/11|
GOD would have forgiven Judas if he would have asked for Forgiveness. If Judas would have acknowledged his sin, asked for Forgiveness and repented of his sin, then, GOD would have restored Judas to the fold. GOD is willing that none should perish. But, the Scriptures say that Judas is the "son of perdition" and that he is in his "rightful place" (Hell). ACTS 1:25
---Gordon on 5/21/11|
No. There is no heaven.
---atheist on 5/20/11|
\\Judas Isacriot is cursed because he is hanged on a tree \\
Does this mean innocent victims of lynching are cursed, too?
Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/20/11|
Judas Isacriot is cursed because he is hanged on a tree (Matt 27:1-5, Deut 21:23). just like Jesus Christ is cursed (Gal 3:13, Heb 9:28, 2Cor 5:21).
Now, even if priests of wormwood (Jer 23:1-3,15) have kept you ignorant of who the true believer Judas Iscariot is (John 13:15-18,19-20), you can still know who the liar is (1stJohn 1:6, 2:1,2-4)?
Huh (1stJohn 2:24,27, Jer 31:33-34)!
---rwdavis on 5/20/11|
Drawing and believing are two different things as evident in the rest of John 12.
So, a misunderstanding of the word 'draw' in one verse may lead some to the false conclusion that the son of perdition will be saved from the wrath to come.
John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition, that the scripture might be fulfilled.
All Scripture is Truth and must be reconciled together...out of the mouth of 2 or 3...
2 Peter 3:7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
---micha9344 on 5/20/11|
john usa ... then that means all will be saved.
What then is hell for?
---alan8566_of_UK on 5/20/11|
Judas will be saved, according to John 12:32.
---John.usa on 5/20/11|
Judas is called the son of perdition which is also a term used for the antichrist so Judas was never saved to begin with. The KJV refers to him as son of perdition and the NIV as doomed to destruction but it means the same thing. The antichrist is not going to heaven and neither did Judas.
John 17 NIV
12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.
2 Thessalonians 2 NIV
3 Dont let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness[a] is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
---poopsey on 5/20/11|
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While I think he is still in the grave at the present time. I do believe he will wake up in the second resurrection of the wicked.
---Samuel on 5/20/11|
In John 6:70-71 we are told that Judas was a devil." 70-Jesus answered them, Have not I chosen you twelve, and one of you is a devil?
71-He spake of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon: for he it was that should betray him, being one of the twelve.
The Bible says Judas went to his own place and I believe that placed to be hell.
---mima on 5/20/11|
Leave it up to God.
I'm sure we'll find out in due time.
Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/20/11|
It would seem that according to Jesus' High Priestly Prayer the answer would be no.
John 17:12, "While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition, that the scripture might be fulfilled."
---Bruce5656 on 5/20/11|
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