Does Jesus Know You
Cluny, "saw someone "minister in prophecy" right after denying the physical resurrection of our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ--and people were eating this up with a spoon!" Obviously a false gospel, So no Christ or Spirit of prophesy there.
But who says that this, that, or the other manifestation is necessarily from God?" Discernment from God, does it line up with the Word, does it bear fruit, set captives free, glorify the one true God, lead into the TRUTH...I see you included fruit, in
---chria9396 on 7/28/11|
\\Do you not believe that today's chrstians can be filled with the Holy Spirit to receive gifts from God, to perform miracles, and to prophesy? As i have said many times, christians today have the knowledge of God, but deny his power.\\
I've never denied it. Tell me when I did.
But who says that this, that, or the other manifestation is necessarily from God?
I saw someone "minister in prophecy" right after denying the physical resurrection of our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ--and people were eating this up with a spoon!
The important thing about these signs is: What doctrine comes with it? What are the fruits in the lives of the people involved?
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/11|
PS. 139:1-4 says "O Lord, You have searched me and know me. You know my sitting down and my rising up, you understand my thoughts afar off. You are
acquainted with all my ways...You know it alltogether."
Yes, God knows each one of us
(every person on earth) better than we know ourselves.He takes a personl interest in every human being and carefully watches all that we do. Not one word, thought or deed is hiddden
---Pierre on 6/11/11|
Cluny, if one has read the bible several times from beginning to end, meditates on the bible only, and using itself as it's own reference without infecting their mind with man's thinking (concordances, christian reference books, dictionaries, other people's opinions, and novels) would that person have a solid knowledge in the Word of God? Then, at some point early on, God sees your dedication and your growing faith, does he not send the Holy Spirit for more guidance? Do you not believe that today's chrstians can be filled with the Holy Spirit to receive gifts from God, to perform miracles, and to prophesy? As i have said many times, christians today have the knowledge of God, but deny his power.
---Steveng on 6/12/11|
\\You wouldn't understand spiritual matters. It is a long story for you to understand.\\
You don't actually think that YOU do, do you, Steveng?
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/11/11|
anon: "I find it hard to believe that God would punish you for spending money on frivilous things."
You wouldn't understand spiritual matters. It is a long story for you to understand.
anon: "So I'm a bit confused on your theology of God "punishing" you."
What's there not to understand? It's written in the bible so read it. My theology come directly from the bible and he punishes those he loves to keep us from straying too far from the path toward the Kingdom of God.
---Steveng on 6/10/11|
MarkV Amen to your 6/10 post. Very well said.
---Josef on 6/11/11|
Mark, thank you for the reference to sheeps clothing vs His sheep. I agree with the following too:
The faith that says and does not do is really unbelief. Jesus was not suggesting that works are meritorious for salvation, but that true faith will not fail to produce the fruit of good works. They were claiming to have done some remarkable work, and their confidence was in these works not Christ.
---christina on 6/10/11|
Steveng, my heart truly goes out to you for what you went through. Do you really think it was God punishing you because you spent your money on frivilous things? Or do you think what happened to you was a result of "you reap what you sow." Because I find it hard to believe that God would punish you for spending money on frivilous things. I've done that too and have never lost a job or house or car over it. So I'm a bit confused on your theology of God "punishing" you.
---anon on 6/10/11|
Christina, you are absolutely correct. Knowing them has to be in the Context of relationship, "His sheep", because Jesus Christ is God and He knows everyone. Verse 15 suggest these were false prophets who come in sheeps clothing. These deceive not by disguising themselves as sheep, but by impersonating true shepherds. They promote the wide gate. The barrenness of this sort of faith demonstrates it real character (V.20). The faith that says and does not do is really unbelief. Jesus was not suggesting that works are meritorious for salvation, but that true faith will not fail to produce the fruit of good works. They were claiming to have done some remarkable work, and their confidence was in these works not Christ.
---Mark_V. on 6/10/11|
Donna66: "That must have been one difficult year!"
At times yes, but overall I kind of enjoyed it especially when you have the spirit within to keep you going. It really wasn't that tough. God prepred me twenty years before when I hitchhiked across country for a year and a half. Even though I had the money to sleep in motels and hotels, I rather enjoyed roughing it and sleeping under the stars - under bridges, on mountaintops, in the deserts, on the roadside inbetween cities, on trains - any where I can lay my head. I'm a very resourceful person when it comes to survival taught to me by my dad especially if getting lost in the wilderness. I really believe that God arranged my past to survive such events and the events to come.
---Steveng on 6/9/11|
steveng--How true, God does make Himself known to us that way (even if not many care to admit it). That must have been one difficult year!
---Donna66 on 6/9/11|
anon--Your question was thought provoking...for all the reasons you and other people have mentioned. I understand that there were (and are some today) that claim to know Jesus, but
He would not claim to know them.
I was responding more to your question about "proving" Jesus knows you. I would say...I know because He answers my prayers and causes me to love Him. Also (the HS) comforts me, leads me, convicts me. But that's not proof to someone else.
1Jo 2:5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
But again, this might not be "proof" to someone else.
---Donna66 on 6/9/11|
Donna66, it simply was just a thought provoking question. Because of what Jesus said, "MANY will say to me Lord didn't we cast out demons in your name" and Jesus said, "Begone from me for I never knew you." So it's simply just a thought provoking question.
tom2, Francis, christina knew what I meant. Steveng I'm so sorry that happened to you. That's where the church should have given you a place to stay.
---anon on 6/9/11|
absolutely,on more than one occassion jesus speaks about sheep and goats,the sheep being his true followers,and the goats being those people who believe they are followers,but he tells them to depart from him e workers of iniquity unto the place reserved for them from the begining for satan and his followers,for i never knew you.
---tom2 on 6/9/11|
anon:"Many will say to me on that day, Lord didn't we cast out demons in your name, and Jesus is going to say, BEGONE from me, for I NEVER knew you!"
I am not a bible scholar, so I don't know the origins etc of the word know, but I believe that in this context it means something along the lines of having an intimate relationship with Jesus.
---christina on 6/8/11|
I know He knows me by punishing me. I'm not the best of christians. I have my faults, many of them to be sure. One time in particular was when I had may own company, manufacturing computer boards for the waste water industry. I was squandering my profits on frivolous things. Well, to make a long story short, God punished me by allowing my business to fail (while the industry as a whole flourished). I was homeless for one year to the day. Being on the streets made me more humble. I did have one tutoring job bringing in $20 a week teaching English. No matter how much I marketed myself I did not get more than one job (while the tutoring business in my area flourished) - one student that entire time and a christian at that.
---Steveng on 6/8/11|
anon--// what proof do you offer that Jesus knows you?// That sounds like a challenge.
What is YOUR proof?
Why does anyone else need to prove that Jesus knows them?
(they might want to prove that they know Jesus, but that's not what you are asking here)
If Jesus knows someone and they know that He does, what does it matter to you or anyone else?
---Donna66 on 6/8/11|
Jesus is God and therefore he knows EVERYONE physically, he made them.
Spiritually He only knows those who know him. If we deny him, he will deny us.
1 John 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
1 John 2:4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
---Francis on 6/8/11|
How can you be sure Cluny, that Jesus knows you? Please give proof.
Many will say to me on that day, Lord didn't we cast out demons in your name, and Jesus is going to say, BEGONE from me, for I NEVER knew you!
Isn't that scary to you Cluny? So how can you be so sure?
---anon on 6/8/11|
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God already does know us, and more so then we know ourselves. Our own hearts can deceive us, but He knows our hearts. He knows our thoughts before we do, what we will say and do. He formed us and fashioned us, with a purpose, unique to us individually. He knows the number of hairs on our head, and I have no doubt that He also knows the number of cells in our bodies. Our God, our Creator, is an awesome God!
---christina on 6/8/11|
"How does Jesus know YOU?" As one who trust exclusively, and without doubt, His finished work and word of salvation.
---Josef on 6/8/11|
Yes, He does.
Would you like me to introduce you to Him?
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/7/11|