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Rick Warren Starts Christlim

What are you thoughts concerning Rick Warren, along with others starting a new religion called CHRISTLIM?

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shira3877---Me Too! There are hundreds of different types of Baptists. How foolish for anyone to generalize about Baptists, as if they all agree with one another. The reason they are split into so many denominations is that they DON'T.
I believe in salvation by faith alone, in Christ alone, not by works of the flesh. Likewise, I believe it is the spirit of Christ within, that leads us toward sanctification.
(BTW I'm beginning to wonder if all the "Calvinism" arguments here aren't simply a tool of the enemy to further divide believers)
---Donna66 on 6/19/11


Shira3877, I completely know and understand what you are saying. I too believe as you we are Justified FIRST by faith in Jesus Christ and His finished work on the cross, and SANCTIFIED by works OF FAITH that work through LOVE. Those can b seen in Philippians 2 and 3, just for beginners, and Galatians 2:20-21...

I believe Christ lives IN ME, the Spirit of God indwells me.
and it's God who is working in me to will and to do. Heb 13:20-21 with Romans 8:11-14 not only confirm my NEW BIRTH, but testify to it.

God Bless!
---kathr4453 on 6/19/11


donna66, your comment regarding my comment that Charles Stanley shouldn't be a Southern Baptist, you took and twisted my words and said, why shouldn't he be a baptist. I said SOUTHERN Baptist.

FB Atlanta should really be an Independent Baptist Church.

However FB Atlanta is an EVANGELICAL Church, who preaches whosoever will, and free will of which NOW MarkV likes in one breath, and in another states Baptists who preach free will are going back to the RCC.

One thing, Baptist Churches don't do is infant baptism, which IS RCC.

Even RCC believe you're not saved unless you are RCC, that the RCC Church is what saves, and THEN you have to go through all the sacriments. Baptists teach NO SUCH THINGS!
---kathr4453 on 6/19/11


cluny....ROFLOL....You have just joined the ranks of those who say their church is the only one.
---KarenD on 6/19/11


Steveng, We were talking about the (assembly) (body of Christ)(two or three gathered) being infiltrated by the devil. I was giving you an example of that then you say you don't need the assembly. Pleeeeease, maybe you need a denomination. I praise God the church I am in hasn't had that problem.
---shira3877 on 6/19/11




kathr: I, an independent baptist believes one must be born again to enter heaven. We live by faith, not by works. We are not justified by works, but by faith. You can believe what you please, but I choose to believe the Holy Scriptures. Our authority is Jesus Christ.....certainly not calvin or any other person or organization.
---shira3877 on 6/19/11


\\C'mon, folks, listen to yourselves bickering over man-made denominational churches - worldly churches.\\

That's why I'm Orthdox. We are neither man-made nor denominational, and our rituals and traditions come from Christ Himself through the Apostles.

You, however, Stevng, are separated from ANY local church and boast of your isolation, in effect telling the rest of the Body, "I have no need of you."

Were I to sit you down and talk with you for five minutes, I would be able to point out your own man-made--if not self-invented--beliefs, rituals, and traditions that you trace back to NOBODY but yourself.

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 6/18/11


C'mon, folks, listen to yourselves bickering over man-made denominational churches - worldly churches. How pathetic. It is these churches that divide christians into their own little cults each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living, and interpretations of the bible. It is these denominational churches that war among each other. There is no unity among the denominational churches. Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world. The true Church of God is nothing more than a body of christians living a godly lifestyle.
---Steveng on 6/18/11


Kathr4453--- I have no idea what I said that wasn't NICE. I was not rude, nor sarcastic nor unkind.
My speculation about the woman with the "flaky opinion" (if that's what you took offense at) came before you told about her giving studies at other churches in the denomination

These blogs are open to anyone, so I will continue to post. BUT, if I should forget and respond to something you say....remember you are under NO obligation to reply!
---Donna66 on 6/18/11


Salvation by grace alone. Most other baptist have gone back to salvation by free will of man, Works. Teachings of the RCC. Not only them but many other denominations. Reformers from every denomination have stayed with Truths that separated them from the RCC. Justification by faith alone in Christ alone.
---Mark_V. on 6/18/11


Baptists always believed in free will. And Justification by faith alone in Christ alone is the teaching of FREE WILL. Was Martin Luther now a Calvinist and Baptist.

The Problem with many who believe in Justification by faith alone in Christ alone are like the Galatians, they have chosen SANCTIFICATION by Works alone, including reformers, who deny the necessity of CHRIST IN YOU!.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/11




Interestingly many Baptist believe the RCC is the anti-Christ.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/11

Add the Assemblies Of God to the list.

Whenever they try to tell me that the RCC is the Anti-Christ, I ask them WHY the AOG allows many Anti-Christian things.

Like: Divorce & Remarriage, which the Bible clearly says in Matthew 5:32 is ADULTERY, Partiality in many ways. As in James 2:1-4, and SILENCE on discussing those things. Hmmm. Signs of a cult? Sounds pretty Non-Christian to me.

The hardest thing for these churches to understand is that NONE are perfect. Not even their church. Only GOD is. Each time they criticize other churches, they expose their problems. Matthew 7:5
---Sag on 6/18/11


kath4453...."Donna66......Please DON'T address me again here on line, unless you want to have a nice conversation, that you don't take and twist."

Wow!!!!! Where did this come from? This WAS a nice conversation.

---KarenD on 6/18/11


kath4453--- I thought we WERE having a nice conversation! What wasn't NICE?
---Donna66 on 6/18/11


Interestingly many Baptist believe the RCC is the anti-Christ. They were persecuted by CALVIN for believing in believes baptism, where Calvin believed in infant baptism, and believed he was regenerated at his infant baptism.

Many reformed believe in infant baptism, and still preform infant baptism, a true mark of never leaving the RCC.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/11


Question: was Jesus a jew or a christ(ian)?
if he was a Jew, why are christians not more Jewish, if he was the first Christian, why do christians not follow His example more?
---andy3996 on 6/18/11


kathry, you are correct about the southern baptist being totally different from the independent baptist. Our authority is God thru jesus Christ. We don't answer to anyone but Him. We also use the king James bible and most southern baptist use another kind all together.
---shira3877 on 6/18/11


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Donna66,

Please DON'T address me again here on line, unless you want to have a nice conversation, that you don't take and twist.

There are so many different kindsof Baptists, True, HOWEVER, The Southern Baptist is structured differently.

And DONNA66 since you were not here or are here, please don't assume YOU KNOW who and what and WHY this woman is was or whatever.

Her brother also held a very high position within the SBC Organization.

Like JamesL found as well, it's obviously more common than we know/ think.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/11


Donna66, another interesting thing, ( this lady passed years ago) but since then the President of the SBC ruled no women can teach PERIOD. All woman Sunday school teachers were told to step down...across the board.

A very good SB Church Pastor here had his wife in ministry with him for years. The were asked to either make her stop ministry with him, or the church would be kicked out of the SBC.

So Independent Baptist Churches are truly independent of all that.

SB are a whole different animal.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/11


"Im Southern Baptist, our church is Southern Baptist, and we cooperate in SBC missions support at every level both in the United States and with our IMB [International Mission Board] missionaries around the world," Warren told Baptist Press.

So does that mean all SB are cooperating with Rick Warren and CHRISTLIM?

This will be interesting to see.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/11


Donna66, I agree with you about Charles Stanley. He is a Baptist and is one of the most respectable preachers around. I've listened to him when God saved me and still do sometimes. He is more a preacher then a teacher. Always speaks about our lives and what we go through. Our faith in Christ, and trails we go through. He helped me so much concerning in discipling me. There is many kinds of baptist, but only one essential separates all of them, Salvation by grace alone. Most other baptist have gone back to salvation by free will of man, Works. Teachings of the RCC. Not only them but many other denominations. Reformers from every denomination have stayed with Truths that separated them from the RCC. Justification by faith alone in Christ alone.
---Mark_V. on 6/18/11


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Eloy:

If any man wants to do good in the world, he can find a way without resorting to titles and names.

However, my question to you is: do you think that American christianity is "straight Christ" and it preaches an "unadulterated gospel"?
---Allan on 6/18/11


"Christianity is about grace and love. Islam is about working for Allah"

Scott:

Perhaps, it would be a good idea to take a look at your own history and the history of christianity. And then take a look at your statement about grace and love.
---Allan on 6/18/11


Rick Warren is not a man of Christ, he is a wolf in sheep's clothing, just read what he has said and wrote and compare that to the Bible.

To John,

You said, "I ALWAYS SAID HE IS AN ANTICHRIST!

WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!"

You are mistaken, there is not going to be a single man who will be "THE Antichrist" who will take over the world.

The word "antichrist" is only mentioned 5 times in 4 verses (1 John 2:18, 22, I John 4:3 and 2 John 1:7) and according to the Apostle John's definition, the antichrist is any person who denies Jesus is the Christ.
---Frank on 6/18/11


Donna66, The Southern Baptist is actualy divided between and argue wiithin. They have a president. Materials are also published and all the churches are to use them.

It's becoming more and more like the RCC being controlled from the top.

And again Donna66, This lady drew a very Large crowd to her bible studies, from many SB Churches in the area. That's where she came to our church to have a Bible Study in our little SB Church, where she came from one of the LARGER Southern Baptist Churches.

There are many SB preachers, GOOD, who have pulled out of the SB and started their own churches because of the control thing. Charles Stanley just doesn't let teh SC Controll him, because he's too well known. They just leave him alone.
---kathr4453 on 6/18/11


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Karen, I understand. I'd still like to see the temple. I get along okay with RLDS folk. :-)
---John.usa on 6/17/11


kathr4453--- All Baptist Churches are separate in administration so they have a lot of leeway in what they teach. The woman who spoke was obviously expressing her own kind of flaky opinion. Baptists do tolerate opinions, even if they don't necessarily endorse them all.

Why shouldn't C. Stanley be a Baptist? (There are many kinds of Baptist, not just Southern Baptists).I listen to him (and like him) too. He sounds pretty Baptist to me.

Not everybody is antagonistic to those who disagree with them on doctrine. If they love the Lord and are saved by His blood, they are considered a brother or sister in the Lord...simple as that.
---Donna66 on 6/17/11


Donna66, actually it was and still is a Southern Baptist Church.

What I find in the SBChurches, is that each is different based on the pastor and congregation. No two are exactly alike. And although Charles Stanley is SB, or at least in the SC group, he really shouldn't be.

He preaches free will, who so ever will too. I know markv said he liked Charles Stanley, which is puzzeling.
---kathr4453 on 6/17/11


john.usa....I have seen the Temple Lot which is where Joseph Smith said the one and only temple was to be built where he said Jesus would return to. I have no desire to visit the temple as I found Jesus Christ as my Savior several years ago and serve HIM.
---KarenD on 6/17/11


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kath4453-- There is a denomination called Reformed Baptist (sometimes referred to as Baptist Calvinists). The Baptist church you refer to, may have been one of those.
---Donna66 on 6/17/11


Karen, yes, you are right. The Community of Christ still uses the Book of Mormon, and it is for sale through them. But one no longer has to accept it as scripture in order be become or remain a member. Have you visited the temple? Have you ever visited the Temple Lot? :-)
---John.usa on 6/17/11


john.usa...My brother is an Elder in the community of christ and they do still use the Book of Mormon. It is one of the three "standard" scriptures they use. They changed the name to distance themselves from Mormons (LDS), but still use the Book of Mormon. They don't like to be called Mormons, but they are.
---karenD on 6/17/11


Lea, Yeah, GOOD POINT. The LORD's Voice sure ain't coming through Rick Warren. What a sick, Satanic joke he is becoming!
---Gordon on 6/17/11


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John 10:45

And when he putteth forth his own sheep, he goeth before them, and the sheep follow him: for they know his voice. And a stranger will they not follow, but will flee from him: for they know not the voice of strangers.

Know.....do you know the voice of the Lord?
---Lea on 6/17/11


The Community of Christ, formerly known as the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (RLDS) no longer requires its members to recognize the Book of Mormon as scripture. They are pretty much like many other Protestant denominations these days. (I've always wanted to see their spiral-domed temple in Independence.) You can confirm this on their website. :-)
---John.usa on 6/17/11


JamesL scarry hun. Mormons believe they preexisted as angels before coming to earth, that Jesus existed in the OT as a man, .....(sound familiar)

I understand Baylor University, a Baptist College, (I hope I spelled that right) for years have had mormons as profesors.

Also years ago here in ATL, a woman who taught, believe it or not in a Baptist Church,(they let her because she never married 80 years old,) taught WE, the ELECT ones all preexisted before we came here, and all knew each other by name, and when we go back to heaven we will remember that we already knew each other. Oh yea.

We ALSO have here in the Atlanta area a Baptist Church/Masonic Temple Combo.





---kathr4453 on 6/17/11


the biggest problem with Christlim is found in 99% of todays christian culture, look at the ORTHODOX, RomCath, COPTIC LUTHERAN,SABBATIC, PROTESTANT, MORMON, TRINITARIAN, UNITARIAN, JW and every other church group or any believers doctrines and you'll find theres nothing new under the sun. thats why we Need Christ's GRACE, and Galatian recommendations. (PS forgive me not tohave included some other groups this is due to a lack of space)
---andy3996 on 6/17/11


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Kathr,

I've seen firsthand what you spoke of about Mormons. I live only minutes from the temple in Independence, Missouri. Of course here they call themselves "Reorganized" LDS.

My friend's dad (an RLDS priest) attends a Baptist church, and is on a couple of committees there.

I asked my friend if his dad has left the RLDS teachings? Not at all. He's right at home in a Southern Baptist church.

I have asked many people just how in the world can a Mormon go to a Baptist church and be right at home?

Do they not preach the truth?
---James_L on 6/17/11


Why would anyone care what an apostate like Ricky Warren saids.

You would have to be pretty ignorant to even give him the time of day.
---John on 6/17/11


Francis, Where in the World do true Christians worship with (Orthodox) Jews? Unless you're referring to "Messianic" Jews. A true Christian cannot worship with an Orthodox Jew, because the O. Jew does not really know nor follow GOD since they reject the only Door to GOD (His Son YAHUSHUA (JESUS). A TRUE Christian would know better. A "Messianic Jew" is different. A true Christian can worship with a Messianic Jew because the M. Jew knows the Messiah YAHUSHUA (Son of GOD). So, what you said is not true. And, a true Christian cannot worship alongside a Muslim. "Allah" is not the GOD of Abraham. "Allah" is of Satan.
---Gordon on 6/16/11


In the year 2004, Ravi Zachariah Ministries went to Salt Lake City, right into the Mormon camp, and a similar prayer was made too. "Mormons, please forgive US". Out sprang Mormons and Christians together. Oh there was certainly a big ruccus over that. NO GOSPEL was preached.

When question and answer time came, many christians stood and witnessed the true Gospel, and were asked to leave, aslo stating the Christians were insensitive for telling the truth) stating Mormons are Christians too.

Margie Zachariah has a 5 page fax/letter posted on line, and it's all in there. Look it up.
---kathr4453 on 6/16/11


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//aka ... The ecumnemism I support is co-operation between Christian people of different denominations.// alan of UK

//James L ... I don't think Chrislam is what Warren is talking about. He is promoting co-operation between Christians and Muslims, while Chrislam seems to be an actual combination of the two.// alan of UK

//It's amazing how many signed this letter drafted by Yale....The list can be found on line, along with the letter. It's every denomination, some of the RCC, many Presbyterians, Mennonites, Reformed, Baptist, you name it.//

alan, cooperation to do what?
---aka on 6/16/11


Karen ... I belong to a denomination, adn would be quite happy to use a study book by someone of another denomination

But I've always been a bit wary of Warren, and certainly would not use him now
---alan8566_of_uk on 6/16/11


* Islam : the meaning comes from the Arabic verbal noun (like a gerund) s-l-m. When appropriate vowel markers are added the word Islam appears. The etymology of s-l-m is to submit, accept, or surrender. From this comes Islams conventional definition of surrender to God.


* Muslim : also has its roots in the s-l-m verb. It is a participle of the verb and refers to a person who engages in the act of submission, acceptance, or surrender. Therefore a Muslim is a person who submits to the will of God, or a follower of Islam.
---kathr4453 on 6/16/11


Jesus said, "My Sheep hear MY voice and the voice of a stranger they will not follow."

His voice is His word and His word is His voice, period.

Many false prophets will arise in the last days, but MY SHEEP hear MY voice.
---Donna5535 on 6/16/11


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Alan.....No, I was not suggesting anything about Baptists. When Warren's books came out, many of our friends who are pentecostal like ourselves suggested we use his books in Bible Study at church. They ALL thought he was a pentecostal. Now the truth comes out. He is indeed a wolf in sheep's clothing. There can be no unity with Muslims.
---KarenD on 6/16/11


Christians are very happy to combine their worship with Jews, whats wrong with combining with muslims ( NOT ISLAM)
---francis on 6/16/11


There you have it, Church. What more proof do we need that Rick Warren is a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing? A compromising, puke-warm, seel-out to the Son of GOD.
---Gordon on 6/16/11


Everyone,

I've learned that there is some GOOD, and some BAD, in everything. I'm sure that most people would agree.

Food, Churches, People, Books, Religions, Cultures, USA Politics, etc.

I've found that you need to be able to DISCERN what is Biblical and what is Worldly. That is probably the case with CHRISLIM.

Until this blog, I had never heard of CHRISLIM. However, as I stated in an earlier blog posting, I had thoughts about reaching out to Muslims.

GOD wants us to reach out to them. Just be sure to keep your eyes focused on HIM. Don't compromise your values.



---Sag on 6/16/11


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James L ... I don't think Chrislam is what Warren is talking about. He is promoting co-operation between Christians and Muslims, while Chrislam seems to be an actual combination of the two.

aka ... The ecumnemism I support is co-operation between Christian people of different denominations.

KarenD ... are you suggesting that Baptists are not proiper Christians?
---alan8566_of_UK on 6/16/11


Chrislam is following right along with teachings of the Quran. Their Mahdi (our Antichrist) will come with Jesus along side of him.

Imagine a coming world ruler with the false "Jesus" teaching that this other man is the true Christ. Those who dont know have the Spirit of the real Jesus Christ will fall for it. Why do you think SO many times the Lord warned us in his word about people claiming he has returned and is HERE or THERE?! When he comes again the entire world will see him coming in the clouds of heaven with great power and glory - not as a mere prophet for another christ.

Its just a sign of the times. Get your families in church and pray every day for those you love that are lost. The day is at hand.
---Jasheradan on 6/16/11


One said I can beat my wife if she misbehaves, the other says forgive your wife as I have forgiven you. One says grace is the way to heaven the other says martyrdom is the only assured way to paradise. One says God can change, the other says God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. One was started by a warrior, the other said pray for your enemies. One came to earth to save you, the other says please me and I may let you in to paradise. One has no equal, the other is diplayed in three parts. These are just some of the differences between Christianity and Islam. Christianity is about grace and love. Islam is about working for Allah.
---Scott on 6/16/11


//Chrislim:...That is my religion."//

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//This weekend, the Memorial Drive Presbyterian Church in Houston along with Christian communities...will initiate a series of sermons that have been designed to produce an ecumenical reconciliation between Christianity and Islam. In addition to the sermons, the Sunday school lessons will center on the inspired teachings of the Prophet Mohammad. Qurans will be placed in the pews next to the Bibles.//

alan, a few months ago, you could not see the harm in ecumenical movement. are you getting it now?
---aka on 6/16/11


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alan of uk,

I think Rob got the name wrong.

Google "Chrislam"
---James_L on 6/15/11


Christianity IS a religion. The bible says so...

"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."

It's too bad that, like all words and religions today, it has been defiled.
---Steveng on 6/15/11


saq ... No I am none of those.

And I am not the first to say it

And of course it is not entirely true ... Christianity is a belief system.

The trouble starts when someone builds their own belief system on just part of the whole, and because someone else is building their doctrines on another part, that damaging disputes (and even persecution & wars) occur.

I've put that very badly, but it's the best I can do
---alan8566_of_UK on 6/15/11


People have gotten upset when we refuse to push or to use Rick Warren's books in our church. Most of the pentecostals we knew when his books first came out had no idea that he was not Spirit-filled, but is a Baptist. His denomination does not believe in the gifts of the Spirit such as speaking in tongues, healing, laying on of hands, etc. Now the truth about this man is coming out!!!!
---KarenD on 6/15/11


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It's amazing how many signed this letter drafted by Yale.

The list can be found on line, along with the letter. It's every denomination, some of the RCC, many Presbyterians, Mennonites, Reformed, Baptist, you name it. What a mess!

I guess it doesn't matter to these hundreds of Church leaders that Islam does not believe Jesus is God.

It's what you call 'symbolism above substance'.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/11


Chrislim sounds like a delicate mental balence. One day you might find the need to burn the Koran, another kill yourself, and on another murder Jews.

Isn't it just hard enough to be one or the other.
---atheist on 6/15/11


Religion is sadly a divisive and corrosive thing & it produce little love, and many wars.

That's why we say Christianity is not a religion ... it is a relationship with God.

---alan8566_of_UK on 6/14/11

Are you a Pastor / Preacher / Evangelist ???

I've never had anyone explain things so well! Thanks for pointing out that Christianity is DIFFERENT from being just another religion. It's NOT religion at all.

I think that there might be some good little HINTS -- like John Lennon's "No Religion Too" -- in many songs. I just find it difficult to separate the Good lyrics from the Bad ones.

In any case, I believe that GOD would like people to live for HIM and HIM alone. No religion at all.
---Sag on 6/15/11


Their will be numerous attempts to make Islam a acceptable or nonobjectable religion. All are of Satan. The end result of the unrest today in Islam will be to present a more united consensus front to the rest of the world by Islam. People like Warren or like the Pope kissing the Koran all play their role in Satan's attack on the Christian believer.
---mima on 6/15/11


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Chrislim:

A believer in or adherent of both Christianity and Islam. Typically these followers show a loving concern for life, a deep humanity and an openness to others.

The Chrislim faiths three pillars are love, integrity, and respect. The adherence to the rituals and customs set forth by Jesus and Mohammed is encouraged but not mandatory. In general Chrislims are taller, better looking, and have superior memories than their single religion brethren.

Chrislim Doctrine: "When I do good, I feel good. When I do bad, I feel bad. That is my religion."
---kathr4453 on 6/15/11


Before we shake your hand in responding to your letter, we ask forgiveness of the All-Merciful One and of the Muslim community around the world. Rick Warren in a speech to Muslims.

This weekend, the Memorial Drive Presbyterian Church in Houston along with Christian communities in Atlanta, Seattle, and Detroit will initiate a series of sermons that have been designed to produce an ecumenical reconciliation between Christianity and Islam. In addition to the sermons, the Sunday school lessons will center on the inspired teachings of the Prophet Mohammad. Qurans will be placed in the pews next to the Bibles.
---kathr4453 on 6/15/11


Ah, "Christiam". That's quite different from "Christislam", but just a fatally flawed.
The "I AM" movement is based on mysticism. It has been around for many years, even in the Western world, where it is also sometimes called "cosmic consciousness" It is what Eastern religious meditation is intended to achieve...a sort of blending of self with the universe.

Again, I can't imagine Rick Warren (or any true Christian) trying to wed these two incompatible religions.
---Donna66 on 6/15/11


Saq ... You will also remember that the song asked us to imagine "no religion, too" which would be a good thing.

Religion is sadly a divisive and corrosive thing & it produce little love, and many wars.

That's why we say Christianity is not a religion ... it is a relationship with God.

But of course it necessarily becomes a belief system ... and that's where the problems begin! Look at what happens here!! !
---alan8566_of_UK on 6/14/11


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Rob, I did a little research.

The word you intended was ChristlAm, not -lim.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/14/11


If you read Rick Warren quotations on the internet, you will know that compromizing Christianity would never be a part of him, although he says "Life minus love equals zero." Another great quote of his is "Limp willingly. God uses weak people."
---Geraldine on 6/14/11


I once told a friend that Christianity was my Primary religion, and Islam was my Secondary religion. My goal was to become more EFFECTIVE at witnessing to, and reaching, Moslems.

My friend told me that trying to live out TWO religions at once was IDOLATRY and displeasing to GOD. I agree now that my joke was stupid.

In my pre-Christian days, I would listen to John Lennon's popular song "Imagine". The last part goes:

"You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one".

Sound like what Rick Warren is trying to achieve with CHRISTLIM?
---Sag on 6/14/11


I've never heard of this before, so had a google!

I can't find any suggestion of a new religion being started, or even suggested.

Warren appears to have suggested that Christians and Muslims work together to reduce stereotyping and to cooperate to reduce inter-religion tensions

It would be intersting to see what Warren actually said, before we condemn his suggestions.
---alan8566_of_UK on 6/14/11


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To think one can co-operate and work with a religion who demands its followers try to convert all other religions to theirs and if they can't convert them,kill them,is kidding themselves. Christians are to spread the Gospel of Christ but we are not to become close friends with anyone who denies Christ as Savior and the son of God,the only true God. The Bible tells us not to company with an angry man lest we learn his ways. That is also true of sinners and nonChristian religions. Our focus is to be Christian so we can stay Christian and not be led astray. Not all are strong enough to resist outside infunces.
---Darlene_1 on 6/14/11


Combining Christianity and Islam? The two are incompatible. I can't believe Rick Warren is behind this.
---Donna66 on 6/14/11


Christianity and Islam have two separate ideas and cannot be merged. Christianity is based on grace. Islam is based on works and Allah has to like you on the day you die. Allah can change (It is in the Koran). Christlim started in Nigeria I do know Rick Warren's role but I highly doubt that Warren promotes that. I think your info is wrong or have been lied to.
---Scott on 6/14/11


This is pure and simple IDOLATRY (worshipping other gods, mixing the holy with the perverse) according to the Bible. God's judgement will be on people like this and anyone who follows such nonsense. The Bible says light cannot fellowship with darkness, and Satan can NEVER be one with God. The Bible also warns to STAY AWAY from such people that try to mix God with idols. The Christian God is the ONLY TRUE God and is NOT the same as the Muslim god. The Muslim god is all about killing, stealing, destroying, and lying (just like Satan).
---Leslie on 6/14/11


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I ALWAYS SAID HE IS AN ANTICHRIST!

WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!
---John on 6/14/11


Is this a Big push from Obamanation ?
---Lawrence on 6/14/11


Christlim is a made up word combining the word "Christian" with the word "muslim". rick warren promotes a "christlim" which is the working together of Christians with the muslims in order to combat the common ills of humanity like poverty and disease and illiteracy. Evangelism is good, but any endeavor to mingle straight Christ with any other idolatrous religion is corruption of the unadulterated gospel, Jesus Christ, and is sin.
---Eloy on 6/14/11


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