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Wondrous Blood Of Jesus

Let us talk of the wondrous blood of Jesus.
1. Why does his blood cleanse us from all sin?
2. What significance does Jesus' blood have with his father?
3. Where is the blood of Jesus today?

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Kathr, those promises have a condition.
"And they also, if they ( individual Jewish people) do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in, for God is able to gratft them in again" Romans 11:23.
There is that tiny word "if"
The only guarantee they have is if they have faith in Christ Jesus and His works. Just been descendants of Abraham does not get anyone into heaven. "They are not all Israel who are of Israel" There is an Israel after the flesh (1 Cor. 10:18) and an "Israel of God" (Galatians 6:16) made up of Jewish people and Gentiles who believe in the Messiah.
---Mark_V. on 6/28/11


--When I find that I am simply following posts intellectually, I know it's time for me to go, since i want more then head knowledge.--

A wise thing to say. Intellect without wisdom is a pointless and knowledge without love is also pointless. The scribes were knowledgable about scripture but their heart was so far from God they didnt even recognize Him when he showed up in the flesh.
---CraigA on 6/28/11


Romans 11:26
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:

SION is HEAVEN.

MarkV, do you know where this is written?

This is an absolute promise to Israel. It is covered under the blood of the covenant as well. SOOOO, the Blood of Jesus is for MORE than just you and your secret society. The New Covenant has been partially fulfilled, and will not be completely fulfilled until this comes to pass. Also stated in Ezekiel 36...with the LAND, never promised to the Church.

So your doctrine on limited atonement is bogus.
---kathr4453 on 6/28/11


I know mima, and 1st John states also very clearly

"not only for our sin but the sin of the whole world."

This verse would seem rather redundant under markv's doctrine.

But then again, the atonement isn't actually just a splash of blood on the elect.

Just as in Moses time, almost everything was sprinkled with the Blood of bulls and goats, indication a LEGAL BINDING oath/contract under the law.

He just doesn't understand what all that entails.
---kathr4453 on 6/28/11


Absolutely MarkV, GOD WILL have mercy on Jacob and still choose Israel...Isaiah 14, and there is not one thing YOU can do about it. That is exactly the point of Romans 9-11

Romans 9= Israel's PAST GOD CHOSE JACOB=ISRAEL
Romans 10= Israel's present
Romans 11= Israel's FUTURE! GOD WILL AGAIN CHOOSE JACOB=ISRAEL
---kathr4453 on 6/28/11




Mima, Kathr, MarkV, I have read some of your posts, not all, and I will say that each of you has at times, IMO, spoken truth, and I've been blessed. As for your differences, it has caused me to dig a bit deeper in the Word, and pray, since some of these ideas are relatively new to me. When I find that I am simply following posts intellectually, I know it's time for me to go, since i want more then head knowledge. God often affirms to me what is the truth of a matter in spirit. I pray that we all may soon be in one accord.
---Christina on 6/28/11


there are many others blogs that i have seen you take issue with...quite demeaning sometimes...how do you choose? selah.
---aka on 6/25/11

What moves me? Red flags as false teaching or preaching. Notably when not backed by multiple scriptural witnesses. Which are supplied, approved and designated by our GOD.
Nothing quite as harmful to life and family as false teachers or shepherds who are doctrinal-financial wolves.
If personal or critical.....i "attempt".....like you to give a day for digestive reflection. And for proper scripture or not to come forward.
Psalm 119:159
Consider how I love thy precepts: quicken me, O LORD, according to thy lovingkindness.

How about...you?
---Trav on 6/28/11


---kathr4453 I agree with your point of view. However MarkV seemed to be so indoctrinated there is no lead way with him. I myself in the same situation as concerns eternal security.
But limited atonement is really just crazy if a person just thinks and understands the words" whosoever will". Because whosoever will and limited atonement or totally opposites.
---mima on 6/28/11


Jesheradan, I give Scripture, you reject it. The name you use will not turn your insults to truth, but gives evidence of the substance in your heart. Paul says concerning God and why He raised up Pharaoh, "Therefore, He has mercy on whom He wills, and whom He wills He hardens" Rom. 9:10-18. And knowing there were people like you who would reject what he said, he answers with,
"But indeed oh man, who are you to reply against God? Will the thing formed say to Him who formed it, "why have you made me like this?" (v. 20)
"Does not the Potter have power over the clay, from the same lump to make "one vessel for honor and another for dishonor?" You say He doesn't. I say He does.
---Mark_V. on 6/28/11


//Kathr, what you do not realize by your rejection of Scripture concerning the elect who were chosen from the foundation of the world, is that rejecting the truth in this area, you are rejecting almost the whole counsel of God.
//Mark_V


MarkV is the one rejecting the WHOLE COUNCIL of God, who rejects God's promises to earthly Israel, and the 1000 year reign of Christ who decides what is literal and what is symbolic. What he can't understand or believe he turns into symbolic. 1000 years is spoken 6 times in Revelation. Satan will be bound at that time, and then after loosed again. When has that happened EVEN SYMBOLICALLY? OR even the first resurrection, those who reign and rule(they were given thrones) with Him at that time?
---kathr4453 on 6/28/11




sike! mwuhahaha
---Jasheradan on 6/27/11
Are you speaking in tongues now?
---Donna66 on 6/27/11

wouldn't it be 'typing in tongues' or called 'fingers'?

interpreter ...please...what a wonderous sign to unbelievers!?!?
---aka on 6/28/11


sike! mwuhahaha
---Jasheradan on 6/27/11
Are you speaking in tongues now?
---Donna66 on 6/27/11


yes, OSAS is really a given. once you are saved, you are saved. but,

there are those 'many' who deem themselves saved that do many wonders in His Name, but are they in fact saved?

rhonda, because of the equivocation ... I take it that you do not believe in the deity of Jesus Christ and that he is Savior?
---aka on 6/27/11


Oh, yes, kathr.

Something else I forgot to mention is that in popular Roman Catholic lay devotion, July is the month dedicated to the Precious Blood.

Now, what was this you were saying about Roman Catholics ignoring the Blood of Christ?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/27/11


//Kathr, what you do not realize by your rejection of Scripture concerning the elect who were chosen from the foundation of the world, is that rejecting the truth in this area, you are rejecting almost the whole counsel of God.
//Mark_V

A typical cult tactic. Fear to question what you have been taught. And all the while not even knowing that the doctrine you believe insults the loving nature of our God.

I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked (sike! mwuhahaha Im gonna make some just to burn them!!)...

Really?
---Jasheradan on 6/27/11


Don't leave the race to go argue with the spectators in the stands. You will lose ground and they still won't be running with you.
---run_the_race on 6/27/11

That was GREAT!!! Thanks!
---kathr4453 on 6/27/11


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Don't leave the race to go argue with the spectators in the stands. You will lose ground and they still won't be running with you.
---run_the_race on 6/27/11


Shira, I agree everyone has been predestined. Some to eternal life in Christ, others to eternal death. Paul declares the "Vessels of Wrath" which by the Lord were "fitted unto destruction" were "endured with much long suffering" in order that He might "show His wrath, and make His power known" and the others "vessels of Mercy" were for the glory of Christ( Romans 9:22,23).

"..for they stumble because they disobey the Word, "as they were destined to do" But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, God's own people, that you may declare the wonderful deeds of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light"
---Mark_V. on 6/27/11


Mark, you just don't get it do you? Every person who was ever born is predesined. every single one. If God predestined only a few, why would He send His Son to die for our sins. I can tell you, Christ died for me and everyone else.....please read just the simple little verse of John 3:16. Then just wonder why God calls preachers to preach.
---shira3877 on 6/27/11


Shira, you said to me,
"me, shallow to think God just died for you and a few other "elect". We were all predistened to be saved if we so chose."
It does not depend on my shallownes. It's up to God. You said He died for me an a few others, I hope He died for you too. You say, "we are predestined to be save if we choose"
No Scripture says that. What it says is,
"Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before Him in Love, having predestined us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, (Now listen to this) According to the good pleasure of His will" Did you get that? It was His will not whether we chose to or not.
---Mark_V. on 6/27/11


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\\I believe RCC and Orthodox put the emphasis on the suffering of Jesus(cross) and not the blood\\

BTW, kathr, this is another example of where you're wrong about Roman Catholics.

On the Roman Catholic Calendar there is the Feast of the Precious Blood on 1 July. There is also the Litany of the Precious Blood (one of the few litanies approved for public use), which you can find on the web, if you really want to know the truth.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/27/11


MarkV, I believe it was Christ and the CHURCH that was predestined. Acts 20:28 state the CHURCH was purchased by the Blood of Christ. So what you see as individual election I see as God predestining a CHURCH, who is His Body/Bride who will have the privledge of reigning and ruling with Him during His 1000 Kingdom Reign.
---kathr4453 on 6/27/11


markv,you are not rightly dividing the Word of God. Who are the elect? All those to come to Christ and are saved. Are you really so shallow to think God just died for you and a few other "elect". We were all predistened to be saved if we so chose. Do you really believe God didn't die for the whole world? Then take your John 3:16 and cut it out of your bible.
---shira3877 on 6/27/11


The emphasis in Orthodoxy is the RESURRECTION of Jesus.

YOUR emphasis on the blood is nothing but what you and other Protestants inherited from your mother Rome, with her emphasis on the Passion.

Glory to Jesus Christ
---Cluny on 6/26/11


There are more Protestants like Orthodoxy who's emphasis is on the resurrection of Jesus. New Testament has 'many' passages encouraging us to suffer with Christ (Phil 1:29, Phil 3:10, 1 Pet 2:21, 1 Pet 4:1, 1 Pet 4:13, Rom 8:17, 2 Cor 1:5). By the way Catholicism emphasis is on both, like the Bible teaches:)
---Ruben on 6/27/11


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Kathr, what you do not realize by your rejection of Scripture concerning the elect who were chosen from the foundation of the world, is that rejecting the truth in this area, you are rejecting almost the whole counsel of God. The Lamb slain is Jesus Christ who died to purchase the salvation of those God had chosen from the foundation of the world for He was fulfilling an eternal plan. According to God's eternal electing purpose before the creation, the death of Christ seals the redemption of the elect forever. In God's plan He was slain from the foundation of the world, but to us it's been fulfilled through time. The whole plan of God is before Him, for everything to Him is past, present and future. What we see is the fulfillment of that plan.
---Mark_V. on 6/27/11


Amos 3:2You only have I known of all the families of the earth: ---

poopsey, God spoke these words to Isral. Do you believe God?

But the question is poopsey, show through the types and shaddows of the OT atonement, pointing to Jesus Christ, that only certain people were chosen to be forgiven and atoned for. If the Bereans were told that Jesus only died for certian people, they would chech the scriptures, "OT Scriptures" to see if what was being said was true. They would find this to be a lie.

From the very foundation of the world we have Cain who's name wasn't written in the Lambs book of life, by his own choice of disobedience, even though God gave him a 2nd chance. Abel's was "Heb 11.
---kathr4453 on 6/27/11


Cluny, "\\Blood might not specifically be mentioned, but it may be implied,
---christina on 6/25/11\\

Is it?"
You left out, and neglected to respond to the rest of my statement/question: Blood might not specifically be mentioned, but it may be implied, What, after all, is the cross all about?
---christina on 6/25/11
Also, you speak of some emphasizing the cross, others (orthodoxy) emphasizing the resurrection. They are inseparable IMO,
---Christina on 6/26/11


Kathr4453: God foreknows who will believe and selects based on this foreknowledge which is not the same as Calvinistic fatalism.

Revelation 17 NIV
The inhabitants of the earth whose names have not been written in the book of life from the creation of the world will be astonished when they see the beast, because it once was, now is not, and yet will come.

Revelation 13 NIV
all whose names have not been written in the Lambs book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

Psalm 139 NIV
16 Your eyes saw my unformed body,
all the days ordained for me were written in your book
before one of them came to be.
---poopsey on 6/26/11


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Names can be blotted out of that book of life... That does not support predestination to salvation.

He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment, and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
---Jasheradan on 6/26/11


Some of the characteristics of those who are against the Gospel being preached plainly they are usually anti-Jewish and anti-blood sacrifice. The Gospel is a butcher shop type message like it or not!
---mima on 6/26/11


\\Cluny, what possibly could you be saying about the CROSS that excludes the blood.\\

Why are you looking at His blood apart from the rest of His Divine-Human person?

And what have I actually said about the Cross?

What I talked about was the RESURRECTION. Did you notice?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/26/11


YOUR emphasis on the blood is nothing but what you and other Protestants inherited from your mother Rome, with her emphasis on the Passion.

Glory to Jesus Christ
---Cluny on 6/26/11

Cluny, what possibly could you be saying about the CROSS that excludes the blood.

Jesus died on the Cross and shed His blood for the forgivness of sin. Without the shedding of blood there is no forgivness of sin. Because God accepted His perfect sacrifice, as the spotless lamb of God, God raised Jesus from the dead through the Blood of the everlasting covenant.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/11


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MarkV, I read all your verses and can find nowhere any names were written before the foundation of the world.

The Lambs Book of LIFE: Would be a documentation in His BLOOD of the time and date Jesus Christ gave LIFE to those who He has redeemed.

Redeemed to be reconcilled to God through Jesus Christ.

And we have been given the ministry of RECONCILLIATION...be ye reconciled to God.


TODAY is the day of Salvation, be ye reconcilled to God my lost friends, and have your name written in the Lambs book of LIFE, ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ.

MarkV NOWHERE in Hebrews, the greatest book on the BLOOD(Lambs Blood) is there anything that suggests what you believe.

Hebrews exposes cults.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/11


MarkV, also in order to PROVE Limited atonement(God only picking out certain people to forgive) you will need to prove beyond a shaddow of a doubt starting in Leviticus, and Hebrews the teaching of teh atonement being limited.

And since this subject is about the precious blood of Jesus, there is not a better place to use scriptures on the BLOOD to prove your point.

Please limit your scripture to the BLOOD and the Atonement, as taught in scripture.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/11


\\I believe RCC and Orthodox put the emphasis on the suffering of Jesus(cross) and not the blood. That's why He's still is on their cross.\\

Wrong again, kathr, as in everything else you say about Orthodoxy.

The emphasis in Orthodoxy is the RESURRECTION of Jesus.

YOUR emphasis on the blood is nothing but what you and other Protestants inherited from your mother Rome, with her emphasis on the Passion.

Glory to Jesus Christ
---Cluny on 6/26/11


Kathr, if you are correct then please provide any passages that state that if someone comes to Christ their names will be added to the book. I asure you, you will not find any. Unless you twist the passages. Twisting will not bring Truth.
"And I urge you also, true companion, help these women who labored with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and the rest of my fellow workers, whose names are in the Book of Life" Phi. 4:3. In eternity past God registered all the names of His elect in that book which identifies those inheritors of eternal life ( Rev. 3:5, Dan. 12:1, Mal. 3:16,17, Luke 10:20, Rev. 17:8,, 20:12 ).
---Mark_V. on 6/26/11


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In Daniel 12:1 Daniel says,
"and at that time your people shall be delievered" Which one's? markv//

Yes MarkV, and Romans 11 confirm this too. ALL ISRAEL, and a deliverer shall come out of SION...SION is HEAVEN.

The Church was kept secret and not revealed in the OT. Daniel is talking about the Great tribulation, Jesus also spoke of in Mattheew 24/25, spoken to JEWS. I will not be taking any flight into the mountains, or have to worry about taking it on a SABBATH DAY.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/11


Markv, please pay attention to past, present and future in sentences. Your names ARE WRITTEN = PRESENT,

Your names WERE WRITTEN ( never stated in scrpture = past.

Your names WILL BE WRITTEN = Future tense..not spoken either.

Our names were writted FROM the foundation of the world...not before the foundation.

In Acts men were added DAILY to the Church,doesn't say, and those already chosen and names already written ..

Let's not rewrite God's word. I love it JUST THE WAY HE SAID IT!
---kathr4453 on 6/26/11


---kathr4453 is correct. And yes some churches have a(symbolic) bloodless communion which of course is ridiculous. Perhaps no more ridiculous than a priest can save some hocus-pocus and miraculously change water into wine and bread into flesh.
---mima on 6/26/11


Acts 1:11
11Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.

In Bodily Form.

I believe RCC and Orthodox put the emphasis on the suffering of Jesus(cross) and not the blood. That's why He's still is on their cross.

However Jesus rose from the dead THROUGH the Blood of the everlasting Covenant. And my understanding is your communion only has the wafer, and only the priests drink the wine that turns into blood. So I can see why RCC and Orthodox don't understand the blood OF THE CROSS!
---kathr4453 on 6/26/11


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Admitting we were chosen by God from the foundation of the world is a hard thing for some to swallow, they don't want God to have that right so they twist the verses. Just nonesense.
Before Jesus shed His blood He said,
"Nevertheless, do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven" Luke 10:20, all believers.
In Daniel 12:1 Daniel says,
"and at that time your people shall be delievered" Which one's?
"Everyone who is found written in the book"
Concerning those who will be saved, their name are already written, not that they will be added.
---Mark_V. on 6/26/11


Acts 20:28
Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood..

So we see in the beginning of Acts thousands were added to the CHURCH, receiving the Holy Spirit.


Ephesians 1:14 tell us too, that AFTER ye believe the Holy Spirit is given as the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the PURCHASED POSESSION.

OSAS!
---kathr4453 on 6/26/11


There is the proof of OSAS.
We are not our own, but have been BOUGHT with a price, by the Blood of Jesus Christ. WE BELONG to Him.

One must understand the BLOOD of the Covenant,Jesus Blood a Covenant being a legal binding contract.

There is no greater book then Hebrews to understand the Blood of Jesus Christ.
---kathr4453 on 6/26/11


\\Cluny---I know that Jesus had a bodily form when he was translated into Heaven. I simply don't know what form He has at present. I assumed a "spirit" for "God is a spirit".
---Donna66 on 6/25/11\\

It's wrong to say "bodily form." Angels take a "bodily form" when they appear to us, but they don't have physical bodiess.

Jesus still has a changed, glorified, physical body in heaven, just as we will.

Now you DO know.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/25/11


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Rhonda, you keep referring to the Biblical Christ.
***

I keep referring? not at all

Truth is Holy Scripture refers to TWO Christs ...Apostles understood there were TWO Christs 2Corin 11:4 ...Biblical Christ SON of The Father in Heaven and false christ from the god of this world Satan 2Corin 4:4

most cannot or simply refuse to understand they are following ANOTHER christ

either one is following the Biblical Christ and EVERY word from Holy Scripture seeking to obey

or one follows pagan traditions of man who superimposed A christ into their pagan abominations ...calling evil good in A christs name DISMISSING ignoring Holy Scripture to continue to live for the world its ancient babylon traditions and its ways
---Rhonda on 6/25/11


HE is the way, the truth and the LIFE. Who is HE? Jesus Christ the Messiah. Its not just the blood, its Jesus Christ. We need all of HIM.
---duane on 6/25/11


Rhonda, you keep referring to the Biblical Christ. I have heard some say Jesus the Christ and some say Micheal the Christ. Some say they are one in the same?

Can you please name the Biblical Christ without equivocation?
---aka on 6/23/11
---aka on 6/25/11


Darlene-- ALL people have either type A,B,AB or O type blood. If the Jewish people have a predominance of one type over another, I do not know of it. (of course no one can know truly what blood type Jesus had).

Cluny---I know that Jesus had a bodily form when he was translated into Heaven. I simply don't know what form He has at present. I assumed a "spirit" for "God is a spirit".
---Donna66 on 6/25/11


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\\Blood might not specifically be mentioned, but it may be implied,
---christina on 6/25/11\\

Is it?

** I believe He is now a Spirit, without need of body or blood." **

This is one of the ancient heresies: that Jesus did NOT rise from the dead in His physical (but glorified and changed) body. I heard it preached by Ralph Short, and people were eating it up with a spoon.

Jesus Himself said, "A spirit does not have flesh and bone that you see I have."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/25/11


Cluny,"The verse from Corinthians about the "preaching of the Cross" says nothing about blood."
Blood might not specifically be mentioned, but it may be implied, What, after all, is the cross all about?
---christina on 6/25/11


Donna, I believe Scripture is contrary to this statement.

"His blood is no more precious than the rest of Him. I believe He is now a Spirit, without need of body or blood."

Please consider that he walked with the disciples,
eat fish with them, and offered his body to be handled by them. This is hardly a Spirit! But rather real flesh and bone

Donna it is his blood not his body that contained his life. And by shedding the blood he has given us his life.
---mima on 6/25/11


Donna66 An interesting item was that people tend to have blood types which align or match the general population of people in their close population. In that case a clue of Christs blood type might be "guessed" by others in his ethnic group,the Jews. It was a nice thought that he had a univeral type O since he was born to die for all people's sins. Blessings
---Darlene_1 on 6/25/11


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\\Cluny, try again!
---kathr4453 on 6/24/11\\

The verse from Corinthians about the "preaching of the Cross" says nothing about blood.

That's my point, which you missed.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/25/11


Both parents determine a child's blood type, not just the father.

I like to think that Jesus' blood type was Type O. Type O is called the "universal donor" because a person of that blood type may donate to anyone (A,B,AB,or O).

The Bible says "the life is in the blood". And God declared that without the shedding of blood there is no sacrifice for sin. Jesus shed His blood, as a perfect blood sacrifice for our sin. Bulls and goats, as sacrificed in the OT were insufficient to eternally cleanse a man of sin. But Jesus, the Lamb of God, was the perfect sacrifice without spot or blemish.

His blood is no more precious than the rest of Him. I believe He is now a Spirit, without need of body or blood.
---Donna66 on 6/24/11


Colossians 1:20
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself, by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

Cluny, try again!
---kathr4453 on 6/24/11


Let's be clear, there is no such thing as a Gospel without the Cross, and there is no such thing as the Cross without the Blood. AND there is no such thing as a Gospel without the BLOOD!
---kathr4453 on 6/24/11


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\\The preaching of the CROSS/blood of the cross is foolishnes to those who are perishing, but to us who are saved IT IS the POWER OF GOD.\\

Try again.

You can't get "blood of the cross" out of the simple Greek word STAVROS.

All you're doing is adding to the infallible Word of God to support your eisogsis.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/24/11


Mima I saw you said "if the father determines the blood type",just for information,and facts sake,the father doesn't determine the blood type by himself. My uncle is UP and he said the baby only gets blood from father. Actually the father and mother each passes genetic information to the baby. It is genetically determined just like eye color and all things are. If mother is A and father is B the baby can be A, B, AB or O.
---Darlene_1 on 6/24/11


It's also important to see Hebrews 13:20-21, Jesus was raised from the dead THROUGH the BLOOD of the EVERLASTING COVENANT.( the finished work )

This Covenant was made between God, the Word and the Holy Spirit BEFORE the foundation of the world.

Making peace through the blood of the Cross. In reality you cannot separate the Blood from the cross. SO when Paul speaks of the Cross, he is speaking of the blood of the cross.
---kathr4453 on 6/24/11


The preaching of the CROSS/blood of the cross is foolishnes to those who are perishing, but to us who are saved IT IS the POWER OF GOD.

Is there power in the blood?

Jesus shed His blood for all sin for all mankind. Anyone who places their faith in Jesus Christ are justified by the blood of Jesus...a LEGAL binding transaction. You then have entered into the Everlasting Covenant of being a redeemed soul, and your name written in the Lambs book of Life FROM (not before) the foundation of the world. NOWHERE does any scripture say any names were written before the foundation of the world. Names today will be writted. The first names written were Adam /Eve, then Abel...
---kathr4453 on 6/24/11


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And they sang a new song, saying, You are worthy to take the book and to open its seals, for You were slain and have redeemed us to God by Your blood out of every kindred and tongue and people and nation. Rev. 5:8,9,

To redeem means to pay a price. Peter tells us we were PURCHASED by the blood of Jesus Christ.

Jesus paid the ULTIMATE price for our soul. WE are the pearl of great price He sold all for.

And your name MUST be written in the Lambs BOOK OF LIFE.

Thst's just the beginning. Read Heb 1-2
---kathr4453 on 6/23/11


Rhonda for first John 2:2,
...To be true it would necessarily include all sin.
***

and AGAIN where does it say ALL sins and MORE importantly where does it say ANY sin going forward ...it doesn't

EITHER Holy Scripture contradicts itself in Rom 3:25 or YOU simply IMPLY an idea that does NOT exist and repeat the ignorant lies from a lying minsiter

there is no truth in any contradiction ...sadly those who idolize their lying ministers cannot SEE the very clear and plain contradiction you present

I choose TRUTH and EVERY word from Holy Scripture

PAST sins are forgiven upon baptism and TRUE Christians are SAVED by the LIVING Christ
---Rhonda on 6/23/11


Rhonda, you keep referring to the Biblical Christ. I have heard some say Jesus the Christ and some say Micheal the Christ. Some say they are one in the same?

Can you please name the Biblical Christ without equivocation?
---aka on 6/23/11


\\Hebrews 9:12,
"Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."

Someone has said a hint to the wise is sufficient, therefore to complete your knowledge of where the blood of Jesus Christ is today please read the complete chapter 9 of Hebrews.
---mima on 6/23/11\\

Where does this say all of Christ's blood is on the mercy seat? That is your claim.

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 6/23/11


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Rhonda for first John 2:2,
"And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world." To be true it would necessarily include all sin.
Present! past! And future!
---mima on 6/23/11


1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
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Biblical Christ cleanses all from sin ...clearly it is PAST sins (Rom 3:25) prior to knowing Christ not ALL sin because ALL sin would contradict Rom 3:25

even the idea of wonderous blood is not found in Holy Scripture

this is how lying false ministers lead so many away from Biblical Christ to another christ 2Corin 11:4 ...away from TRUTH in EVERY word of Holy Scripture into IMPLYING ideas and opinions that are simply not found in Holy Scripture
---Rhonda on 6/23/11


Cluny wrote,"mima, can you give ANY Scripture to back up what you are saying here? YOU are the one claiming these are from the Bible."

Hebrews 9:12,
"Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us."

Someone has said a hint to the wise is sufficient, therefore to complete your knowledge of where the blood of Jesus Christ is today please read the complete chapter 9 of Hebrews.
---mima on 6/23/11


His blood cleanses us from ALL sin because He became the PERFECT Sacrificial Lamb of God, without sin, who was offered up as a sacrifice for our sins. When Jesus shed his blood, now people don't have to go and get their best lamb or sheep and slaughter it when they sin as they did in the Old Testament. Jesus is God, so the significance is they are one in the same. Where is the Blood of Jesus today? Running through our veins! It certainly isn't at the Red Cross, right?
---Donna5535 on 6/23/11


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\\2. The blood of Jesus Christ speaks of mercy unto salvation.
...
The blood of Jesus speaks from the mercy seat in heaven.
---mima on 6/23/11\\

mima, can you give ANY Scripture to back up what you are saying here? YOU are the one claiming these are from the Bible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/23/11


The Bible says the shed blood of the Lord Jesus Christ speaks better things than the blood of Abel. You might ask how so? 1. Abel's blood spoke of revenge. 2. The blood of Jesus Christ speaks of mercy unto salvation.
Abel's blood spoke from the ground.
The blood of Jesus speaks from the mercy seat in heaven.
---mima on 6/23/11


\\Many say that the blood is divine blood.\\

Does that make it so?

Is His flesh human flesh--or divine flesh?

See which way this leads?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/22/11


Many say that the blood is divine blood. Being divine or supernatural blood, it is incorruptible and indestructible. Every drop of blood which Christ shed in His lifetime, and especially the blood shed on Calvary was miraculously preserved and is now on the mercy seat in heaven. What do you agree or ?
---mima on 6/22/11


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If the father determines the blood type and Jesus's father was God then who determined Jesus blood type?

If the life is in the blood, and it is, then by the shedding of Jesus blood he gave you his life therefore you're alive by him, in him, and for him.
---mima on 6/22/11


1) Blood is the life of an animial or person (Leviticus 17:11). That is why the OT Bible says do not drink blood so you do not become like an animal. (yes people do drink animal blood straight from the animal to gain its power). Jesus says drink my blood (Last supper) because I am perfect thus you have perfect life and no sin because you become like Jesus through his blood. 2) I have never heard anything like this. 3)no one has ever drank Jesus' actual blood. It is figurative in the wine and cup during the Lord's supper.
---Scott on 6/22/11


3. Available in the Eucharist, for one place.

BTW, Orthodox worship our ENTIRE Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ, not just a part of Him in isolation from the rest of His Divine-Human person.

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 6/22/11


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