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Are You A Servant Of God

-Luke 14:23,"And the lord said unto the servant, Go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled. Questions,"

1. Are you a servant of God?
2. The word compel mean?
3. Does the term "my house" refer to churches?

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Mima, all believers are servants of God. Second, Luke 14:23 is a parable. God was speaking about eating at the heavenly feast (Matt. 8:12). (v. 15) represents Jews who thought they were the only ones to eat at the heavenly feast. Jesus replied with a parable. In the context this (v. 23) represent's the Gentile regions. Third, "compel them to come" Not by force or violence, but by earnest persuasion. The parable pictures the inclusion of Gentiles into the heavenly feast. "None of those men who were invited" those who spurned the invitation represent Israel being shut out of the banquet. The Masters judgment sealed their own decision. Most of them were killed by Divine judgment at the hands of the Romans in AD 70.
---Mark_V. on 9/25/11

"Urge", "eagerly invite"
---Eloy on 9/24/11

The Lord sure heard my cry! ChristiaNet, try'n keepmy wits/so long isolation /while Chemo bk last year up to late winter. God brought me this far! It's good,teaching I get from here! Inspire folks like myself,challenge "look" for real! studyGod's word..Don't just be a doorknob in the house of the Lord..House cud be different places,you choose read the word.. Study,delve & digest all HE offers our Lord & Saviour Jesus!
---ELENA on 9/24/11

Luke 14 is a parable about counting the cost to be a servant of Christ

COST is VERY HIGH James 1:22-25 ...unlike counterfeit christianity teaching contradiction to this parable that it is "easy"

Luke 14 can be compared to NARROW (difficult) gate most will never pass through Matt 7:14:13-14 ...or teaching by Christ with self examination in The Sermon on the Mount

To be a servant of Christ one must follow him

compel is to force to submit or powerful influence ...If Christ is the powerful influence yet one chooses to FOLLOW traditions of the god of this world 2Corin 4:4, Rev 18:4 then one was compelled to follow men with Christ on their lips in VAIN Mark 7:7, Matt 7:23 ...cannot serve both Matt 6:24
---Rhonda on 7/23/11

servant? who wants to be told what to do. I bet even chrsitians DO NOT want others to make decisions for them.
---mike on 7/21/11

Craig, again you said something that is very true. You said,

"Some people would rather believe the pastor than the Holy Spirit. There's nothing else that can be done here"

That is so true. Many here do not believe in the Holy Spirit to begin with so how can they understand spiritual matters? There is just no way. There is nothing else that can be done for them. Only God can change them. They have been trying to change on their own.
Jesus said,
"If God were your Father you would love Me" and went on to say (v.43) "Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word" John 8:42,43.
Unbelievers cannot hear, how can they understand?
---Mark_V. on 7/6/11

Romans 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey, whether of the transgression of the law unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?
---francis on 7/6/11

Exit scriptural teaching, enter manmade doctrine.

You give scripture and it has no effect. Some people would rather believe the pastor than the Holy Spirit. There's nothing else that can be done here.
---CraigA on 7/6/11

Kathr, you have proven nothing, only that you cannot understand what a parable really is or the Power of Almighty God. Don't you realize that the outward calling is for the whole world? And that the invitation is for everyone? Those who hear the Word are responsible for answering. If they don't they remain the same, lost. God does not stop anyone from coming in. They don't come in because they are not willing. They have a natural ability like everyone, they just don't have a moral ability. They are separated from God. Their desires is to do the desires of the prince and power of the air, in which you onced walked, Eph. 2:2.3. No one lost ever says, I better not do this, God commands me not to. They don't believe by faith in God.
---Mark_V. on 7/6/11

Seems the mods are taking sides now. I wrote a response agreeing with Kathr on the parables Jesus spoke about the invitation and it being rejected and it was apparently not let thru. Thats a shame. Might be time to move on.
---CraigA on 7/5/11

servant of god? are pastors & televangelist servant of god?

YES with strings attach. should be paid at least $100,000/year
---mike on 7/5/11

"Can salvation be refused? can one who is bidden REJECT? YES."
---kathr4453 on 7/5/11

Good work on these parables kathr4453, very sensible and straightforward.
My favorite is the Matthew one, "gathered together all as many as they found,
both bad and good".
I will add that God makes it clear that just accepting the invitation and attending is not enough, "how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment?"
All things with propriety!
1 Cor. 9:27: "But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway."
---Nana on 7/5/11

It's stating God is not a respector of persons. He said He did not come for the righteous, but to call sinners to repentance.

It clearly says, no matter how you slice it, the opposite from Calvinism's.

The parable begins in verse 15, BLESSED IS HE THAT SHALL EAT BREAD IN THE KINGDOM OF GOD. Then proceeds to tell what we now already know and Jesus also knew. The Jews for the most part rejected Him, and the Gospel went to the Gentiles.

The whole parable is verses 15-24.

The parable ends:

For I say unto you...(these are Jesus words now, the parable is over) that none of these men who were bidden will taste of my supper.

Can salvation be refused? can one who is bidden REJECT? YES.
---kathr4453 on 7/5/11

Jesus told this story while dining in the home of a pharisee. He STATED the MESSAGE of the parable plainly. Luk 14:12-14 Then said he also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbours, lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee. But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind: And thou shalt be blessed, for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just

That Pharisees included those who plotted against Jesus is beside the point. Even the soul winning application seems secondary.

The lesson is to give without expectation of return.
---Donna66 on 7/4/11

A parable can be described as a short allegory with one theme or lesson to be taught.
---kathr4453 on 7/4/11

For the purpose of the reader who wants to know the Truth, Parables are not allegories. Parables are parables, allegories are allegories.
Parables can be understood as an extended similie. The comparison is expressed, and the subject and the thing compared, explained more fully, are kept separate. They generally keep the story and its application distinct from each other.
An Allegory can be understood as an extended metaphor: the comparison is unexpressed, and the subject and the thing compared are intermingled. The parable in Luke 14:16-23 is similar to the one in Matt. 22:1-14. but in Matthew they actually mistreated and killed the messengers.
---Mark_V. on 7/4/11

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In interpreting the parable we need to be careful not to over-allegorize. This parable IS an allegory, and has a similar message to the Parable of the Tenants (20:9-19).

The host is God the Father, inviting his people Israel to the messianic banquet in the Kingdom of God. The rich and socially elite who reject at the last minute the host's invitation are the Pharisees and Jewish religious establishment who begin to plot against Jesus having Jesus executed as a common criminal. The poor and downtrodden are the common people, considered unclean by the Pharisees. Perhaps those inside the town are the Jews while those in the outlying areas are the Gentiles. But beyond that level of allegory I don't believe we should go.
---kathr4453 on 7/4/11

One thing for sure in this parable we do not see is PREPRINTED INVITATIONS. It clearly shows not only free will, as those who refused to come, but the message that they were sent to bring in anyone and everyone who they could find. And after the first round there were still seats available of which they were to go and get more COMPELLING then to come. Totally opposite to Calvin's Theory of salvation.

Yes as servannts of God we are COMPELLED TO BRING THE GOSPEL TO THE LOST.

There were no preprinted invitations with anyone's name on it they had to find to bring in.
---kathr4453 on 7/4/11

Christina--Thanks for following up on my little semantic exercise. Actually, it's sometimes interesting to see what happens when we apply the defined meaning to scripture.
You mentioned "the love of God compels us". I would say IF we understood the love of Christ as it truly is, we would be "compelled" i.e. have no other logical choice, be unable to resist, believing.
Maybe the lord of the house expected his servant to make the invitation so appealing that, unlike the previously invited guests, those now being invited would feel there was no way they could afford to miss this banquet! No real dicision involved!
---Donna66 on 7/4/11

Donna66, In looking up compel, i see you are absolutely right. probably the most common use of the word in my experience has been "a compelling arguement", which would in my mind be stongly persuasive, but leaves a bit of room for choice.
---christina on 7/3/11

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---Trish I do not follow up or see again most of the people I witness too. Sometimes I'm called to attend a baptism of some I've witnessed to.

But I would like to make the following statement.

I have never been told by anyone that I have witnessed too and prayed with that feel lost feel like they have lost their salvation.
---mima on 7/3/11

Matthew 6:

3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.

James 1:

26 If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain.
27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
---christan on 7/3/11

Luke 14:23, nowhere says 'Lord' This is a parable of the Great Supper.
"Then the master said to the servant, go out into the highways and hedges, and compel them to come in, that my house may be filled"
Just wanted to make that clear. "compel" does not mean force or violence, but by earnest "Persuasion."
Trish is correct, discipleship is more then just giving the gospel, evidence comes from Jesus. He continue to teach the Truth about Himself, to them for the period He was with them, and many left. What it showed was, the evidence they did not have true faith. No Spiriual birth. Without the Spirit they are unable to know and understand or for that matter, have faith in the things of God.
---Mark_V. on 7/3/11

Mima: Your boasts about your soul winning actually drive me away from it, because I don't want to be anything like you in my evangelistic endeavors.

During the Great Commission, the Lord told His followers to "MAKE DISCIPLES" Discipleship involves more than walking up to strangers in a shopping area, offering them a chance to win a car, and shoving the Gospel down their throats. Discipleship involves a relationship and a commitment. How many of your victims do you see after your witnessing attempts?
---Trish on 7/3/11

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Christina-- In every other usage compel implies irresistable force. That's why the verse left me a little puzzled. Thinking maybe it was just me, I checked several dictionaries to find the same thing.
Some versions use the world constrain, which is only slightly less forceful, or they simply say make them come in
---Donna66 on 7/2/11

When writing about the word compel Donna has this to say,"it coveys a sense of urgency, as a host might feel after preparing a feast for unappreciative guests." A word about this sense of urgency. If you do not have this sense of urgency as concerns the Gospel message to others then may I say pray, pray, pray,------
---mima on 7/2/11

Donna, I've always thought of compel as to strongly urge, as opposed to force, a heavy persuasion,so that there's choice on the part of the one being compelled. As in "the love of Christ compels...
---Christina on 7/2/11

"1. Are you a servant of God?" No I am a son, "through faith in Christ Jesus" serving his fellow man.
Jesus said that He "No longer calls [us] servants, He calls [his disciples] friends." Jhn 15:15
"2. The word compel mean?" The NLT says it best.
"Go out into the country lanes and behind the hedges and 'urge' anyone you find to come." Mat. 22:9 uses the word 'bid'.
"3. Does the term "my house" refer to churches?"
In the sense of a building, no.
This is the understanding that 'I' have been given.
'I' read the verse to say "that My family may be completed." This is simply my personal view. No version of the bible actually translates that way.
---josef on 7/2/11

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---KarenD I am more than willing to be called a bragger or any other name you want to call me if my bragging but clauses one person to become a soul winner I will be more than happy. I might also mention compelling someone to attend a Christian church of their choice has little if anything to do with soul-winning.
---mima on 7/1/11

This scripture has always left me slightly confused because of the word compel...which means force or drive, especially to a course of action
2. to secure or bring about by force.
3. to force to submit, subdue.
5. Archaic . to drive together, unite by force, herd.
In the KJV, this archaic use is probably the closest. Nevertheless, it coveys a sense of urgency, as a host might feel after preparing a feast for unappreciative guests. And coming from the "lord of the house", I guess it would be appropriate.
In this parable "my house" would refer to God's kingdom.
Interesting to note that He wants it filled (first with the poor and disabled, then with anybody) so there are no empty places.
---Donna66 on 7/1/11

I'd say "compel" means how our example can be the most effective because how we are can spread to make others the same way, deeper than our words and acting.

We are inviting people to the wedding feast of Jesus. So, we are needing to be examples of such personal and tender wedding love (Ephesians 4:31-5:2). This "should" be inviting!!

And the "house" is the Body of Jesus, "in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit." (Ephesians 2:21-22) So, we desire that God is at home in us > 1 Peter 3:4 !!!
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/1/11

I believe that if a person continuously goes on and on about all the people he has led to the Lord, that person is not a servant of the Lord. He is a servant of his own ego. We are to compel people to come to JESUS and to attend a Christian church of their choice. Bragging is not a good Christian virtue.
---KarenD on 7/1/11

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the master wanted?

luke 11:43
Pharisees (religious leaders, pastors) YOU love the most important seats in the synagogues

and he called these religious leaders 'lovers of money'
---mike on 7/1/11

Mike - a servant does everything and anything the master wanted. The phase 'No lord' (earthly master) did not exist in feudal and ancient times. In the same way our lives should reflect that between us and God and each other. Pastors like the centurion in the gossips has a master over him (God) and servants under him (staff volunteers). 1) I try my best 2) do anything to get a person to do something 3) "my house" is anywhere God's truth is preached and followed usually churchs, bible study, etc.
---Scott on 7/1/11

define servanthood? doesn't pastors have positions of being a CEO? is that a servant?
weren't the pharisees love their position for being a 'religious' leader.
---mike on 7/1/11

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