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Explain Galatians 1:8

After reading Galatians 1:8: "But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed." What light do you think this verse places on the Church of latter-day Saints and Joseph Smith?

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Lee - the LDS believe that Jesus is the only begotten Son of God in the flesh. We believe that he was conceived by the power of the Holy Ghost and born of a virgin.

Yes, we believe that God doesn't change. For example, He has always used prophets to communicate with His people. We believe that He does so today. The LDS understand what the purpose to our lives is - we know it's much more than that taught by men who simply have a degree in theology. Degrees don't perpetuate truth.
---HappyLDS on 2/6/12


//HappyLDS...the jesus you worship is created...

Yes, the LDS believe that Elohim got together one night with his wife and Jesus was born as a result.

What is also of their fantasy is the belief that as man is now, God was once and as God is now man can become.

This shoots to pieces the belief found in the Book of Mormons and the Bible that God is unchangeable.

My Mormon cousins wife had no answer for me on this issue.
---lee1538 on 1/23/12


HappyLDS...the jesus you worship is created...

Jesus Christ in the Christian belief as always existed. He is eternal.
---JIM on 1/23/12


The ASSumption Mormons make is that the dead become angels after their death. I am doubtful that this belief can be made from scripture alone.

Angelical visitations are seen in many different religions, as in Seventh Day Adventism, Islam, Roman Catholicism as well as Mormonism.

I believe we need to heed the word of Scripture to reject such visions and recognize that Christ and His Word are totally sufficient for our salvation and walk.

Yes HappyLDS, the Book of Mormons (I have read it last year) does contain much of the Bible as its author was a minister who sought to publish a book to supplement his income.
---lee1538 on 1/23/12


The Gospel of Jesus Christ is to follow Jesus Christ, to repent, to be baptized and to receive the Holy Ghost. This is what the Bible teaches, this is what the Book of Mormon teaches. The LDS are not being "preached another gospel". The angel Moroni had buried the plates during his lifetime and instructed Joseph Smith where to find them. To those who don't believe me (about what it teaches) I suggest that you read it.
---HappyLDS on 1/21/12




Donna 66, please go back and read what I wrote again. I never said anything about John the Baptist. I was talking about the apostle John who received the Revelation from Jesus Christ.
See Rev. 1:1.
---barb on 11/8/11


Actually Trav - the book you're talking about is in the Pearl of Great Price, the Book of Abraham. The problem with that accusation is that no one knows exactly what was translated because most of the papyra was destroyed in a fire and only a few fragments survived. While many try to use that as some sort of "gotcha" - it just isn't so. With that, it becomes apparent that you read the wrong book. The Book of Mormon testifies of Jesus Christ and anyone who says otherwise is simply a liar. I hate using such harsh words but it's true.
---Mara on 11/1/11


Moroni instructed Joseph Smith as to where the plates were hidden. The plates became the BOM which, along with the Bible, contains the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ.
---Mara on 10/21/11

Mara,these plates are Egyptian Funeral plates and have nothing on them pertaining to any other peoples. Joseph had a long profitable run in that... no one including himself knew what the hieroglyphics meant. Egyptian Book of the dead. Egyptian name ironically, might be appropriate.

Bible doesn't link/unify by witness or sign the BOM, which I have read by the way some time ago. Not even good fiction really.
---Trav on 10/27/11


I guess this scripture is supposed to prove that Mormons don't follow the gospel of Jesus Christ? As if angels aren't messengers from God throughout the Bible? Moroni instructed Joseph Smith as to where the plates were hidden. The plates became the BOM which, along with the Bible, contains the fulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Therefore, Joseph Smith will not be accursed because he didn't preach "another gospel." Most critics of the BOM have never opened it's pages and only parrot criticisms they have read from others. Too bad.
---Mara on 10/21/11


mima, are you ever going to answer my question about whether your faith in Christ and the Holy Spirit make you holy?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/13/11




Donna66, I believe you are correct in your answer. After Mormon complete his writings he delivered the account to his son Moroni, who added a few words of his own and hid up the plates in the hill Cumorah. On Sept. 21, 1823 the same Morini, "then a glorified, resurrected being," appeared to the Prophet Joseph Smith and instructed him relative to the ancient record and its destine translation into the English language.
I copied some of the words from the Book of Mormon which I am holding. So you are right. It does not say angel but that he was a glorified, resurrected being.
---Mark_V. on 7/12/11


2 Corinthians 11:13 For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2 Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel, for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
2 Corinthians 11:15 Therefore [it is] no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness, whose end shall be according to their works.
---micha9344 on 7/11/11


\\But, according to Mormonism, an angel named "Moroni" dictated a whole book to Joseph Smith.\\

Donna, Mormonoids never said that the Book for Morons was dictated to Joseph Smith by an angel.

They say that an angel showed Joseph Smith where to find the golden plates that he alone saw and how to translate them.

And no, it's not the same thing.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/10/11


there is no difference between us saying John's gospel or Matthew's gospel or one of the Apostles saying my gospel.

Rom 8:35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? ...Rom 8:38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
Rom 8:39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. -- gospel according to Paul or Paul's gospel.
---aka on 7/10/11


barb--angels did speak to men. They told John the Baptist's father that he was to have a son and to name him John. That's not a "gospel" of any sort. An angel told Mary she was to have a son who would be called "the Son of God". But this was not the "gospel"
I can think of no angel in the Bible who gave anyone a/the Gospel.

But, according to Mormonism, an angel named "Moroni" dictated a whole book to Joseph Smith.

Paul taught the gospel of Jesus Christ and pointed all men to Him.
---Donna66 on 7/10/11


Col 1:21-23 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in [your] mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and [be] not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, [and] which was preached to every creature which is under heaven, whereof I Paul am made a minister,
Rev 20:6a Blessed and holy [is] he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power
Rev 22:11b and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
Rom 11:16 For if the firstfruit [be] holy, the lump [is] also [holy]: and if the root [be] holy, so [are] the branches.
---micha9344 on 7/9/11


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\\I would like to leave you with a little riddle to solve Matthew 11:11,"Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he."\\

Simple, mima. We do not come into the Kingdom of Heaven by mere physical birth, as many jews believed.

Now, I'm going to ask you a riddle. Do you believe you are made holy by your faith in Christ and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/9/11


I was reading the thing with Mary.
I was just wondering if God has the power to remove sin.
Act_10:14-15 What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.

Moreover didnt he surround himself with sin, just by coming here?
Stepped right into it, still it couldnt touch him.
1Jn_2:15 Love not the world,
1Jn_2:16 but is of the world.

But then again, if Christ existed before sin existed.
How can any sin have any power before him?
He already existed.
So how can Marys egg be it sinful or not!
Make sinful, what is already not sinful?
Heb_3:3 the house.
Mat_12:6 the temple!

Joh_8:23 I am not of this world.
So he can take the sins of the world.
And still has no sin!
---TheSeg on 7/9/11


He is talking about the gospel of the kingdom taught to the twelve disciples by Jesus Christ and preached to the nations by those same apostles. Paul taught a different gospel than Jesus. ---barb on 7/8/11

barb got it half right. Those Jews who came in to Galatia were preaching Matthews Kingdom of heaven on earth, where gentiles would be in subjection to Jews and Kingdom LAW. However the Gospel of Grace to the Church, Christ's BODY are no longer of this world, and the message of "I am Crucified with Christ",~ "crucified to this world, and the world to me" make that quite clear.

In the Church Gentiles are not in submission to Jews or their laws. In the Kingdom preached in Matthew, the 1000 year, they will.
---kathr4453 on 7/9/11


Cluny in this one-time occurrence I can have it both ways. But I'm going to be witnessing today so I will not try to explain that to you now. I have no illusions that your mind is free and flexible and that learning might take place but I would like to leave you with a little riddle to solve Matthew 11:11,"Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he."
---mima on 7/9/11


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But though we - first, I would ask who are we and am I part of we?
Or an angel from heaven - I think we just went down this road.
So isn't this saying it makes no difference who!

Oh yea, let him be accursed.
Bumber!

Preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you -
Maybe this should be clearer.
1:9 preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received.

But then this would mean you received the gospel.
He that is able to receive it, let him receive it.

For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

Now ask yourself, who are you listening to?
Gal_1:16
Peace
---TheSeg on 7/9/11


Cluny,

I agree with you, I think. The word "begotten" is evidence procreation was involved. The seed is from the man which impregnates the egg causing conception. The women bears the child but her seed is not passed on thus making Jesus not a son of Adam who passed on the seed of sinful desire but the son of God who was begotten of God, His seed in the sense that He caused the impregnation, who was born in the likeness and image of his Father(God) just as Adam was created from the dust and given breathe to be in the likeness and image of his Father(God)
---willa5568 on 7/8/11


\\Cluny you are correct. What I deny is that Mary's egg was used to produce the embryos that became Jesus's body\\

**. I believe she was the mother of his fleshly human body just as my mother was the mother of my fleshly human bOdy. **

Well, which one is it, mima? You can't have it both ways.

If you insist on the first, then you deny the Bible.

Galatians 4:4
But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/8/11


---Cluny you are correct. What I deny is that Mary's egg was used to produce the embryos that became Jesus's body. The reason I do not believe Mary's egg was used was because the Bible says, "all have stned and come short of the glory of God" that all w included Mary. Now we know Jesus had no sin and for that reason he could not have come from Mary,s egg. I believe Jesus was fully human and came through the Birth canal of Mary's body. Question was not the first Adam a human?
---mima on 7/8/11


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No barb, it was not an angel. who revealed who Jesus was to John the Bapist. I every instance that I could find in my Bible, it was a "voice from Heaven". Are you confusing this with the "dove" (not angel) that dencended from Heaven at the Baptism of Jesus?

Gal 1:8 could be applied to Mormonism because of their claims about the angel Moroni.
---Donna66 on 7/8/11


"But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel..."
This, IMO, is not speaking of what we call doctrinal differences, but

the basic gospel truth(s). personally, I don't consider the Church of

latter-day Saints as a Christian denomination.The Mormons call the Book

of Mormon another Gospel of Jesus Christ. that alone should raise a

red flag.
---Christina on 7/8/11


\\I believe she was the mother of his fleshly human body just as my mother was the mother of my fleshly human bOdy.\\

No.

You have previously denied that He took His human body from the Virgin Mary, despite what it says in the Bible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/8/11


I've read a good deal about Joseph Smith, and somewhat less about John Wesley. They seem quite different. It would be hard to make a case that there was no difference between the two.
---John.usa on 7/8/11


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The Apostle Paul wrote this letter of Galatians to the churches in the area of Galatia, (now known as Turkey) to explain to these new gentile Christian that only those who preached about the GRACE of Christ were for real. It seems some Christian Jews were preaching that you had to have works to be a Christian and follow the law. Paul was stating that this was not true.
---wivv on 7/8/11


Paul was not talking about Joseph Smith or the Latter Day Saints because they did not exist at that time and Paul was not a prophet.

He is talking about the gospel of the kingdom taught to the twelve disciples by Jesus Christ and preached to the nations by those same apostles. Paul taught a different gospel than Jesus. Here is the proof for those who have ears to hear and eyes to see...would an angel FROM HEAVEN (an angel of God) ever ever ever preach the wrong gospel? Paul teaches his own gospel instead of the testimony of Jesus. Paul even calls it "my gospel" and curses the angel from Heaven. Who brought the revelation of Jesus Christ to John? It was an angel sent by God from Heaven.
---barb on 7/8/11


gal 1:8 puts the mormons in the same light as most denominational churches,(Huge emphasis on water baptism)
Our apostle gave us as simple explanation of "THE GOSPEL" as there could be. (1 Cor 15:1-4)
---michael_e on 7/8/11


Paul seems to have in mind the people who came to check up on him from the Jerusalem Church headed by James, the Lord's brother, who insisted that people needed to be circumcised and keep the Law of Moses in order to benefit from Christ's atoning work. The whole book of Galatians opposes this view.
---John.usa on 7/8/11


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Cluny this statement is incorrect. "Furthermore, mima should look to himself, as he clearly does not have right faith concerning the Incarnation of our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ and does not believe He was descended in His human nature from Adam." I believe the Lord Jesus Christ was fully human and fully God. I believe he was the second Adam. I do not believe his mother Mary was HOLY. I believe she was the mother of his fleshly human body just as my mother was the mother of my fleshly human bOdy. Hebrews 10:5 clearly states that his body was prepared for him by his father.
---mima on 7/8/11


\\The vast majority of those professing to be Christians are preaching "another gospel" and are bringing a curse upon themselves.\\

That's why I'm Orthodox.

**only 1 out of all the 1000s of christian denomination is teaching the truth. **

It's sure not your denomination, francis.

FWIW, should an LDS, JFW, or SDA becomes Orthodox, that person must be received by BAPTISM.


Furthermore, mima should look to himself, as he clearly does not have right faith concerning the Incarnation of our Lord, God, and Savior Jesus Christ and does not believe He was descended in His human nature from Adam.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/8/11


It's not only those churches. The vast majority of those professing to be Christians are preaching "another gospel" and are bringing a curse upon themselves. They are just too arrogant and/or deceived to see it.
You can see it on this site every day.
---Frank on 7/8/11


I am just going to make this simple and cut to the chase.
only 1 out of all the 1000s of christian denomination is teaching the truth.
John wesley, is no different than Joseph smith
---francis on 7/8/11


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The same light it places on every other denomination who adds doctrine/Gospel,takes away doctrine,or changes it in any way,from the Gospel of Christ. That includes what the Apostles carried on with according to his orders and promises and they preached after he was risen. God will shine the light of his truth and his judgement on all churches fairly for he has no respect of persons.
---Darlene_1 on 7/8/11


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