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Is God Directing Your Life

Are you allowing God to build you and your life (Psalm 127:1)? Are you allowing God to teach/educate you (John 14:26, 1 John 2:27)? Are you allowing God to direct your steps/paths (Psalm 37:23, Proverbs 3:5-6)?

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Mark,

That is interesting that what God is and who he is never changes since you say He became a man who put all of His attributes aside. Instead of being unable to die He chose to die. Instead of knowing all things He chose not to. I know you will say something to justify what you have said but you are correct God cannot change into something he is not.
---willa5568 on 7/14/11


---Christina on 7/13/11
---aka on 7/13/11
Blessings to you.

'cont'
All Souls are His Ez 18:4

God is Love 1Jn 4:8-16
Forgives completely and does not ask of us anything that He Himself would not/has not done.
Mat 18:21-23
Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
Lke 15:11-32
31 And he said unto him, Son, thou art ever with me, and all that I have is thine.
32 It was meet that we should make merry, and be glad: for this thy brother was dead, and is alive again, and was lost, and is found.
Rev 15:3

Malachi 1:2-3
---char on 7/14/11


Paul said, I will not speak anything unless it is first wrouhgt in/by me.

Romans 15:18
For I will not dare to speak of any of those things which Christ hath not wrought by me, to make the Gentiles obedient, by word and deed,


To have wrough in/by means through testing and trials and suffering. Yet, markv had denied that the elect need this in their lives.

To study, intellectually is not suffering, and nothing is wrought in. It's just brainwashing over and over.


OR
James 2:22
Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? Read James 1...the testing of your faith that you may be PERFECT and entire lacking nothing.

THIS Markv dies not have and is evident.
---kathr4453 on 7/14/11


Paul, I'm not infalible. But I believe Scripture to be inspired by God. When God says in His Word,

"A man's heart deviseth his way: But the Lord directeth his steps" (Prov. 16:9)
And again,
"There is many devices in a man's heart, nevertheless the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand" ( Prov. 19:21).

I believe it with all of my heart. Every person has his own ways he thinks is better or wiser but it is God who is directing the steps of every single individual. I believe it by faith. But you don't so you argue against His Word.
---Mark_V. on 7/14/11


I know the Truth because what I say here, comes from the Scriptures,
---Mark_V. on 7/13/11

Mark

Again here is the problem, you feel infallible due to study.

We ALL study, I have present you many scriptures, yep you guessed it, right out of the scriptures so what we both are posting is our interpritation of scriptures.

You want to be seen as an authority on scriptures because you use scriptures.

As someone else also said, so do the JW LDS.

So you see you can be wrong even with your scripture or else all who use them are right, which is it?

Paul


---paul on 7/13/11




Willa, when we say He is, Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent it does not mean those words are in Scripture. What they refer to is what is understood by all the passages written of God. Omniscience means He knows everything. Omnipotent means He is in control of everything He created and everything holds by the word of His power. When we say Omnipresent we mean He is everywhere as Spirit. He is not confine to one place. When we say He is Immutable, it means He never changes, He is the same Yesterday, today and forever. This and more are discriptions of God. And no passage can go against the nature and character of God. What He is and who He is never changes.
---Mark_V. on 7/13/11


Willa 2: It's easy almost every time, to know when someone interprets a passage wrong. What I do first is check if their answer goes against His nature, character and attributes. I believe by faith in the God of Scripture and when He says, "Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else! I am God, and there is none like Me, declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all My pleasure" Isa. 46:9,10) That's who He is, what His done, what He knows will come to be, because what He decreed will stand. And when you answer a passage that speaks against God, you've got it wrong. You need to do more searching.
---Mark_V. on 7/13/11


The elect were not formed without being able to be deceived. As witness [the 1/3 that stand/stood] for God without waiver before the foundations of this world they Now bare witness.

[No Flesh be saved]
but for the [elect's sake] those days shall be shortened.
[if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect].

Matt 24:22-24
And except those days should be shortened, there should [No Flesh be saved]: but for the [elect's sake] those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there, believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, [if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect].
---char on 7/13/11


Function as our Creator Function-As Father who loves His Son [soul] although sinned-
He is forgiven.

As the Father forgives His children who have sinned against him.

As Husband whose wife forsakeed Him is Now forgiven.
Isaiah 62:4
Thou shalt no more be termed Forsaken, neither shall thy land any more be termed Desolate: but thou shalt be called Hephzibah, and thy land Beulah: for the LORD delighteth in thee, and thy land shall be married.
As an enemy - loved and forgiven.Mt 5:44

The true complete function of forgiveness.

We are to function as he functions---complete.

Luke 24:47
And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.
---char on 7/13/11


Char, Thank you for your posts. very much a blessing.
---Christina on 7/13/11

told ya :~)
---aka on 7/13/11




Char, Thank you for your posts. very much a blessing.
---Christina on 7/13/11


[In this day] The elect were not formed without being able to be deceived, they are the witness of the 1/3 that [stand/stood] for God before the foundations of this world and witness to [All His children.Ez 18:4]

but for the [elect's sake] those days shall be shortened.
[if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect].

Matt 24:22-24
And except those days should be shortened, there should [No Flesh be saved]: but for the [elect's sake] those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there, believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, [if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect].
---char on 7/13/11


christianan
You missed the part where I said WE, are all subject to like passions.
Paul
---paul on 7/13/11


Process of elimination.

Ps 127
Except the LORD build the house, they labour in vain that build it: except the LORD keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

Form the tabernacle-
God Words within us and our Action following His Path builds our House [temple]. He will judge the word within us we follow [action].
Only His Word is the path that rescues from deception.

This is a choice for some [whomsoever]-
but a predestine plan for [the elect].
God is a true, just and fair God.
His Desire is that not one of His souls perish.
Ez 18:4
[All souls are mine], as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die

Only [within Him] is completeness.
---char on 7/13/11


Allan,

an example is Genesis 6. God as the KJV says, repented, or as others translated, was sorry, regretted, grieved, that man became so wicked. It seems quite obvious, as I can see, to mean it was not His desire or plan that such a thing would happen. Also Exodus 32:7-15. It was not Gods desire or plan they didn't do as He commanded but rather desired to bless them. God predestining who will be saved who will not is not foreknowledge. Foreknowledge at the most is Gods knowledge of what will happen, not that He determines everything that will happen. So it seems somehow reconciling everything written to understand the truth is the task at hand. I'm not saying I am right and no one else is, although I may be.
---willa5568 on 7/13/11


"We all are subject to like passion unless you have reached perfection and don't need to learn and grow." paul

Are we to assume that you have already "reached perfection and don't need to learn and grow"? As you are so ready to pass your own judgement on others, here are your very own words for you to ponder upon,

"With all due respect the problem is that you think you are right, you don't see that you are fleshly and very subject to emotion, perception and opinion."
---christan on 7/13/11


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Paul, I never said I was without sin. Or that I was perfect, not one time. I am not sinless or have been glorified yet. But what I present is the Truth. I'm not Pilate who ask, "What is the Truth?" I know the Truth because what I say here, comes from the Scriptures, and I know and believe the Scriptures present the Truth which is Christ. And gives a complete account of who God is, and His eternal plan. And no where in the Word of God are we told that God is ever subject to man. Any inventions like that come from fallen human sinful nature (the flesh) of man.
---Mark_V. on 7/13/11


Willa:

I found these statements rather interesting. "As I said God cannot desire all men to be saved and yet it is not His plan, that is not His nature. His nature is mercy, patience, love, He calls all men to come to Him."

Perhaps, you could develop them further.
---Allan on 7/13/11


Paul, if I knew I was wrong I would not be giving passages of God's Word,
---Mark_V. on 7/12/11

With all due respect the problem is that you think you are right, you don't see that you are fleshly and very subject to emotion, perception and opinion.

We all are subject to like passion unless you have reached perfection and don't need to learn and grow.

But the many scriptures presented to you that you dismiss because they hurt your ideology so badly must have some formidable impression on you.

Paul
---paul on 7/12/11


[In the day] Elohyim created- [All was complete] Job 38:7
When the morning stars sang together, and [All the sons of God] shouted for joy?
[His-regardless of division].
Ez 18:4
Behold, [All souls are mine], as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die
Is 42:1,Is 65:9

Matt 24:22-24
And except those days should be shortened, there should [No Flesh be saved]: but for the [elect's sake] those days shall be shortened. Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there, believe it not. For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, [if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect].
---char on 7/12/11


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Mark and Willa, in reading your posts I'm thinking we continually grow in the Knowledge of Him, His Nature, characteristics, attributes...All that he is. In particular this comes to mind: Eph 3:17-21 I pray that you, being rooted and established in love, 18 may have power, together with all the Lords holy people, to grasp how wide and long and high and deep is the love of Christ, 19 and to know this love that surpasses knowledgethat you may be filled to the measure of all the fullness of God.

20 Now to him who is able to do immeasurably more than all we ask or imagine, according to his power that is at work within us, 21 to him be glory in the church and in Christ Jesus throughout all generations, for ever and ever! Amen."
---Christina on 7/12/11


Willa, there is not enough space here to explain the teachings of the character, nature and attributes of God. Those are things each of us should learn first as we begin to grow in the Word. Without them, there is a lot of confusion on passages that imply against passages that explicitely teach something. And many make the mistake to answer with answers that contradict the nature or character of God. No passage in Scripture should be understood at the expense of God's deity. God never changes. His attributes character and nature remain the same forever. We can learn many things from Scripture but no human being has the ability to understand God exhaustively. We are finite creatures, God is an infinite being.
---Mark_V. on 7/12/11


Mark,

I see your explaination of Gods attributes, but what is His character and nature? What is God like and how is His character explained in scripture? His attributes do not control His character and nature, His nature and character explain how He uses His attributes. As I said God cannot desire all men to be saved and yet it is not His plan, that is not His nature. His nature is mercy, patience, love, He calls all men to come to Him. If you say God created men knowing and for the purpose of most being destroyed, that is not His nature or character.
---willa5568 on 7/12/11


Mark V:

You have mentioned an element of modern christianity that is largely neglected throughout Christendom because it requires time, patience, effort and the guidance of Holy Spirit to learn about the nature, the character and the attributes of the Almighty God.

The proper interpretation of scripture needs not merely the context of the text, but it needs the lively recognition and acceptance and the functional understanding of the nature, the character and the attributes of God.

In this regard, you have done very well.

---Allan on 7/12/11


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Willa, by your answers I suppose you have never studied the nature, character and attributes of God. First, He is Almighty God. He is outside of time. What He planned from the foundation of the world is complete before Him. From beginning to end. With no failures, for He is perfect and just in His actions. All He wanted to accomplish is already accomplish and before Him, the past, present and future are before Him. His decrees are absolute. What we see in time is the unfolding of His plan. He has told us so by giving us Genesis to Revelation. His Word is written down already. He will not change. He did not make a plan with many second or third choices in case He plan failed. I could have put every passage but it would take a lot of space.
---Mark_V. on 7/12/11


Paul, if I knew I was wrong I would not be giving passages of God's Word, but would only give my opinion like most of you guys. I'm not caught up in the love of Christ at the expense of other passages. They all have a context. Second, I do not know all things, I'm learning every day. What I see that you fail in is the nature, character and attributes of God. What you do when you answer, you sacrifice the nature, character and attributes of God in order to hold on to your theology. Making for yourself a man centered theology. You begin with man when you answer. I begin with God. He is never obligated to man. Man is obligated to God. I'm not afraid to begin with God. Either man is in control or God is. I say He is. There is no maybe's.
---Mark_V. on 7/12/11


I know I am right and know you are wrong because Scripture tells me.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/11

What a shame to be so deceived, so self exalting.

There is only one thing I can state as a fact because scripture tells me is:

Jesus died not only for our sin but the sin of the whole world. I know this to be true through the types and shaddows of the OT. Since the New is seen in the old, and the old fulfilled in the new, we know for a fact through that truth there is no such thing as calvins THEORY of salvation.

Mormons also study every day, and probably don't golf either. That doesn't make them right.
---kathr4453 on 7/12/11


Mark
You think I don't do all those things, and have for years.

We as people are foul able and can miss God I don't care how in tune you think yo are with God.

His ways are higher then ours, who can know them, or who has been His counselor?

Their is a possibility that you are wrong so don't get caught up in high mindedness.

Their have been many many scriptures presented to you that show contrary to how you interpret scriptures.
---paul on 7/12/11


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Mark,

If what you are saying is true, then God does not get what He wants:

thelo: to will, have in mind, intend, to be resolved or determined, to purpose to desire, to wish, to love

He can not desire all to be saved and only give faith to those He chooses. It would be saying, "I desire all men to be saved but that is not my plan", this is a contradiction. I'm not saying I am right and you are wrong but rather pointing out there is scripture that contradicts what you say is presented, making it questionable just as you have pointed out what I say is questionable by verses that contradict what I understand the subject at hand to mean.
---willa5568 on 7/11/11


Paul, I'm not wrong. I make sure to study the word of God from cover to cover. God has given me a passion to learn the Truth and I make every possible effort to answer for the glory of God. I also pray each day that God directs me to His Truth and to make it possible for me to have the tools needed to learn His Word. At the end of the day I give thanks to my Lord for teaching me what He does through the day. For only through His power am I able to answer questions. I could be playing golf or going to the races, and having a beer with the guys. But God does not want me there. He wants me here for now. Maybe tomorrow He will change that course for me. No, I am not worried Paul. I know I am right and know you are wrong because Scripture tells me.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/11


Mark

You never answered the question as to what if your wrong in your interpretation of scriptures and cause a stumbling block between men and God?

That will be an event to give an account for.

Paul
---paul on 7/11/11


Willa,
"Desires all men to be saved" Greek for "desires" is not that which normally expresses God's will of decree (His eternal purpose), but God's will of desire. There's a distinction between God's desire and His eternal saving purpose, which must transcend His desires. God does not desire men to sin. yet they do, thus, He hates its consequences-eternal wickedness in hell. God does not desire people to remain wicked in eternal remorse and hatred of Himself. Yet God for His own glory, and to manifest that glory in wrath, chose to endure "vessels" prepared for destruction for the supreme fulfillment of His will (Romans 9:22). In His purpose He chose only the elect (John 17:6) and passed over the rest.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/11


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kath

deny himself... so what does that mean? give away? sacrifice? don't think of yourself?
so how can relationship exist in christianity when you are told to 'deny' yourself as a person.
what happened to those who were bondage mentally? they 'denied' self & followed christ?
---mike on 7/11/11


Mark

Those passages do not go against my belief.

I have always believed that Christ came only to the lost house of Israel and that Paul was commissioned to the gentiles to graft them in as inward Jews as scriptures teach.

So where is the inconsistency in my belief system?

Paul
---paul on 7/11/11


Why is it, when I see Mark sayings, I have no problem?
Take his post on 7/11/11:
Everything that is needed to be saved comes from God.
Man has no saying in the matter.

How can anyone believe a statement like that?
Right-away my mind tells me, this can't be! Why?
Because that would mean there is nothing in me.
I am no different than anyone else.

Realistically, if the lord said only a few are saved!
And you have to enter at the straight gate.
How can this be? Clearly, I have to-do something!

I'll tell you the truth.
Try as you might to understand.
The truth is you can't! Why?
Because, you're reasoning it!
Not of faith! Rom 14:23!

Think with your heart!
---TheSeg on 7/11/11


Mark 8:34
And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.


Markv, this is what you fail to understand. Jesus said many times, COME UNTO ME, follow me, come after me....and that wasn't to those already saved, but an invitation to salvation.
---kathr4453 on 7/11/11


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Mark,

I urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgivings be made for all people...This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth For there is one God, and there is one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all, which is the testimony given at the proper time.
--1Timothy 2:1-6

please break this down according to the context so I can see how this fits your doctrine. Also Matthew 22:1-14
---willa5568 on 7/11/11


Paul, do you not understand that the very passages you gave speak against what you believe in? The Truth went to only those whom the Father wanted the Truth to go to. When the apostles were send somewhere, they were not sent to another. Those others stayed in their sins and died with their own free will as you say.
And if faith is not given by God, that would mean everyone lost has faith in Christ. If they have faith in Christ already, why do they not believe? Faith is believing and trusting in the works of Christ on the cross. Jesus said,
"Why do you not understand My speech? Because "you are not able to listen to My word" Everything that is needed to be saved comes from God. Man has no saying in the matter.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/11


Kathr, I also understand many things are difficult for you to understand and I take that into consideration why you reject the Truth. You have no answers to the Word of God. I know how you feel, many feel the same way when they are told they are wrong. They cannot stand anyone telling they are wrong. You have been blinded by hate for Calvin. He didn't invent Predestination, God did. Read the Scriptures, maybe God will reveal them to you. Jesus said, "But you are not willing to come to Me that you might have life" Do you believe in Jesus Christ words? Jesus said, "But you do not have His Word abiding in you, because whom He sent, Him you do not believe"
---Mark_V. on 7/11/11


Christianan

Jesus was merciful unto the Samaritan woman but it was not His mission.

Mt 15:24 But He answered and said, "I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."


Mt 10:5 These twelve Jesus sent out and commanded them, saying: "Do not go into the way of the Gentiles, and do not enter a city of the Samaritans.
6 "But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

And Paul was not disobedient for that was his calling, to minister to the gentiles.

You seem to have an issue with temperance, you may wana look into that and study your Bible a bit more before you go accusing people of lying.

Paul
---paul on 7/11/11


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christan, I understand many things are difficult for you to understand without the Holy Spirit to guide and teach you.

Firstly, He came unto His Own and His own received Him not. His Own crucified Him as well. You may want to read Romans 9-11 to fill in the gaps of your understanding. Salvation came to the Gentiles according to Romans 11, because ????

Now as a Calvinist/Gentile you may not like that answer, but it's a fact. It's in scripture and it's God's word.

So now both Jew and Gentile in unbelief so that God can have mercy on ALL.....
---kathr4453 on 7/11/11


Fari, Rev. 3:20 in the context refers to Jesus knocking at the door of the Laodicean Church. The context begins in (v. 14) He ask them to repent, none answered the knock.

To Kathr and those who reject the Truth written, not one of you have shown one passage where God tells us that He gave free will to all descendants of Adam. Yet you argue He did. You don't argue that God chose the nation of Israel over all the others, nor that He destroyed the other nations, men, women and children whom you say had free will. What good was their free will? It's ok for God to chose Israel over others, but not ok for God to chose anyone He so desires now. Why? Because you are not willing to believe in the Word of God when it doesn't fit your theology.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/11


Matthew 10:5,6 - "These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel."

I do not see Jesus commanding His apostles here "not to minister to the Gentiles or the Samaritans" but rather instruction to by-pass the city of Samaritans. Amazing what one can see and add-on to the words of the Holy Scripture.

And if that was the case, then Paul (who was a Jew) was in disobedience to His "instruction" of ministering to the Gentiles, according to "paul the blogger". God does not contradict Himself! It is the hearts of foolish man that does it.
---christan on 7/10/11


The Samaritans embraced a religion that was a mixture of Judaism and idolatry (2 Kings 17:26-28). Because the Israelite inhabitants of Samaria had intermarried with the foreigners and adopted their idolatrous religion, Samaritans were generally considered "half-breeds" and were universally despised by the Jews.
---kathr4453 on 7/10/11


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You must be feeling very offended because "throwing a Scripture" contradicts you and exposes your heart. Truth be told, the Word of God is a double-edged sword. On that note, Jesus did remind me,

"Do not give dogs what is sacred, do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."
---christan on 7/10/11

Yes christan throwing out hateful scripture does expose YOUR heart. A heart of pride and arrogance.

Why do you presume Jesus was talking about the doctrine of calvinism here in this verse?
Such arrogance and ignorance.
---kathr4453 on 7/10/11


Christan,


These twelve Jesus sent out, instructing them, Go nowhere among the Gentiles and enter no town of the Samaritans,
but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel--Matthew 10:6

He answered, I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.--Matthew 15:24

Samaritans considered themselves to have the true worship of the ancient Israelite's prior to Babylonian captivity, they are not Gentiles but are not of the tribe of Judah, which Jesus was from. It was not until the vision Peter was given that the Gentiles also were to hear the gospel of the kingdom, not the other Apostles, unless you consider Paul, which was not one of the twelve.
---willa5568 on 7/10/11


The Bible says Here I am! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me. (Rev 3:20). I think opening the door is allowing the Lord to teach/educate us.

So, for me the original question is relevant. And, yes, we can allow the Lord in t teach us, if we dont harden our hearts.

Farai
---Farai on 7/10/11


Christianan/Calvinists

Would you consider this, is their a possibility that you are misinterpreting scriptures to draw your conclusions?

The Bible declares that God is no respecter of persons, why do you attempt to be?

If you are inaccurate and cause a stumbling block between any man and God you will pay a price through Christ for that.

Please think about this, it is a very serious thing to fall into the hands of a living God.

Paul
---paul on 7/10/11


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Christina ... When Christan started blogging a few months ago, so others used to misread this as Christian ... that seemed OK

Then someone came along, whose name really was Christian ... so confusion started!

Then you arrived here!

I blog here using my CH Penpal name plus from UK to show where I am from. That helps explain sometimes why I don't look at things from an American viewpoint
---alan8566_of_uk on 7/10/11


paul - "Christ did not minister to the gentiles nor did He allow His disciples to do so."

Who did Christ spoke to at the well of Jacob? A woman from Samaria! Was she a Jew? You have been saying that Christ forbid his disciples to minister to the Gentiles and unless you can show me in Scripture, you are a liar!

You must be feeling very offended because "throwing a Scripture" contradicts you and exposes your heart. Truth be told, the Word of God is a double-edged sword. On that note, Jesus did remind me,

"Do not give dogs what is sacred, do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you to pieces."
---christan on 7/10/11


Christan ... There is another blogger who does sign him/herself Christian ... so there are (at least) three people with visually similar names ... and others are constantly misreading who is writing!
---alan8566_of_uk on 7/9/11
I had no idea people were constantly misreading who is writing what. It's been brought to my attention in the last couple of days. I'm sorry for any confusion. Those who have been here for some time, most likely recognize differences. I will consider changes if it would really be helpful. The major decision is, what to call myself?
---Christina on 7/9/11


Be careful in running to where you hear prophecies and dont conclude God is speaking without pondering it with the word of God. Men who take pleasure in slandering and backbiting will have problem in receiving and giving prophecies.God has declared that the anointing in you shall teach you all things 1John 2:27.We must know how to move in the supernatural without grieving God and without been carried away. God directed me to share this witih you today. My father and pastor wrote this for your encouragement and same time warning.
---Joseph_Ngele on 7/9/11


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Christan ... There is another blogger who does sign him/herself Christian ... so there are (at least) three people with visually similar names ... and others are constantly misreading who is writing!
---alan8566_of_uk on 7/9/11


Christan,

A little cultural info concerning predestination and foreknowledge: the Hebrews understanding of this, who wrote the NT with maybe one exception(Luke), is man definitely has freedom of choice to do good or evil though their explanation of foreknowledge varies(Gods knowledge of future events). The Greek concept of God is what Calvinism and doctrine similar to it originate from, not the Bible. There are a lot of different ideas as to what it is but if you limit yourself you may miss the truth. And foreknowing something does not equal predestining what will happen and the choosing and condemnation of certain people.
---willa5568 on 7/9/11


Christan

You did post scripture without answering the original question, and preceded it with a question.

I can tell you are obviously a calvinist who is holding fast to the predestination doctrine, that's your choice but don't limit God to a particular people.

Dont you realize that was what Paul was called to were the gentiles outside the lost house of Israel.

Christ did not minister to the gentiles nor did He allow His disciples to do so.

But Paul was called to it, and if Christ is no respecter of persons then why respect one to salvation and not another?

Can you answer that or simply throw another scripture at it.

Paul
---paul on 7/9/11


paul: "You answered the question with a question thus indicating you don't have answers but just questions."

Are you really serious? I gave you two verses to demonstrate to your unbelief that God's will CANNOT be thwarted which contradicts your line of thought and you say I answer it with questions? Obviously you don't read the reply with the Scripture, right?

By the way, my name is CHRISTAN and not CHRISTINA. And alan of uk, it's not CHRISTIAN though I am one.
---christan on 7/9/11


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Got it AKA!
MY APOLOGISE MIKE!
---John on 7/9/11


"The LORD will guide you continually," (in Isaiah 58:11)
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/9/11


I hope so.For I am a blood-bought child of the King. Whatever I am and hope to be, I give all of the glory to Jesus. I ask daily for Him to mold and shape me into who He wants me to be. Not MY will but His will be done!In order to walk in victory I must allow Christ to teach,educate and direct my life. Amen
---Robyn on 7/9/11


Paul ... You seem to be confusing Christina with Christan,

It does't help that we also have a blogger named Christian who posts here
---alan8566_of_uk on 7/9/11


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paul, christina does not equal christian. same letters but different opinion.
---aka on 7/9/11


john, actually mike has similar grievances as you do. his list is of the things that churches tell you without considering the rest of the word.

everybody is so willing to throw someone under the bus so they can express their own opinion. does anybody realize that we have to account for every idle word?
---aka on 7/9/11


Christina

You answered the question with a question thus indicating you don't have answers but just questions.

I suppose that was directed by God as well.

Good day to you,Paul
---paul on 7/9/11


paul, "If so, God does not always get His way."

Are you telling me then that the man that's made from dust and depends on God for the breathe of life, can resist God's will?

"The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD, as the rivers of water: He turneth it whithersoever He will." Proverbs 21:1, "Calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass, I have purposed it, I will also do it." Isaiah 46:11

Even after God declares it, you paint a picture of a feeble and powerless god, contradicting His Words. Guess what, that has been purposed by God too.
---christan on 7/9/11


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"Nope. it's mostly somebody else's vague interpretation of the bible forced upon you. - mike"

Let's not be hypocrites, what you accuse others of doing, aren't you also doing it likewise? Or are you declaring that your teachings and witnessing is truth and those who challenge them are in error, even after Scripture contradicts you?
---christan on 7/9/11


Mike I must say your posts were extremely nauseating and so far off scripture. I had to buy Pepto Bismol.

If you are a New Christian then I'm sorry. I don't want to be a stumbling block. If not, then you have no excuse. You need to study the basics.

Where did you get this "Christians should give 10%?" WOW!

Should we keep Kosher?

PLEASE STUDY BEFORE POSTING THIS.
---John on 7/8/11


"Then the LORD God said, Behold, the man has become like one of us in knowing good and evil. Now, lest he reach out his hand and take also of the tree of life and eat, and live forever- therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden"--Genesis 3:22,23



"The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.And the LORD was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart."--Genesis 6:5,6

Here's a couple more showing Gods sorrow for mans disobedience and regret for what he became, things didn't turn out the way He desired.
---willa5568 on 7/8/11


Paul, I think you have me confused with Christan, but that's no problem. While I agree with some of Christans posts, I have issues with others. I am not a Calvinist. I totally agree that God is longsuffering and not willing that any should perish. Unfortunately, some do not choose life, so will indeed perish.
---Christina on 7/8/11


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Christina

Do you think God always gets His way?

If so consider this,
2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Would you agree that many are perishing and going to a devils hell daily?

If so, God does not always get His way.

Paul
---paul on 7/8/11


When we were born (in the delivery room), we were "in His image", but as we grew, we learned to conform to the many ideas, attitudes, and beliefs of this world (we lost our true identity). God (I am who I am) wants us to learn to see clearly and find the 'God seed' that is deep inside of us so that we do not remain the 'unit of existence' that this world taught us to be (we were taught simply to FOLLOW the leader and be a 'mindless breathing machine').

..the question is not about God seeking permission.

If we allow God to teach us INSTEAD of man, then we will regain a TRUE IDENTITY and learn to be a living, breathing soul/mind.
---more_excellent_way on 7/8/11


thankyou! Yes! God is real n my prayertime & also,review & study (Bible furums/teachings) n to late nite! ChristiaNet! I study alot n learn more & more.. learning Humility, doesn't matter AGE ...Got to be humble GOD Come First!Love My Jesus more n more! He the Father always there... There is NO other way! God way is best! Praise God.. Love of Jesus! ELENAbrings tears to my eyes..The Love of Jesus! He really is the Greatest Love!
---ELENA on 7/8/11


so what are the teachings? there are NO teachings when you are attending sunday service. it's mostly vague teachings telling you to OBEY - give your 10%, self denial, sin, sacrifice. and the more you deny yourself the more successful or holier you become.it's not christianity but ascetism.

most christians have their OWN agenda.
---mike on 7/8/11


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Nope. it's mostly somebody else's vague interpretation of the bible forced upon you.
btw... didn't pat robertson have teachings about mass murders that he said it came from god?
---mike on 7/8/11


here are a list of teachings.

give your 10%, you will be blessed
run another mile for your brethren
deny yourself
self reliance, self confidence anything to do with the self is SIN
be god reliance christ confident
don't be conformed with the world
don't think for your self let god direct you
don't complain
you SHOULD be a servant, submit, obey
dont be a cafeteria christian
wait for god
don't be worldly
don't lean unto your understanding
don't judge for you will be judge
ask god for his will
be christ-like

these teachings DOESn't allow god to build you life. list of to do. then if you fail, you lack faith, you sinned disobeyed you will miss the will of god.
---mike on 7/8/11


no matter what you say (or do not say) or how you say it, there will always be someone who says otherwise. we won't really find out who is among the many or the few until the great day.

rightly dividing the word will show in your actions towards others according to the absolute Word and not according to arguable words.
---aka on 7/8/11


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