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Christian Plays Secular Music

The only Christians who are allowed to play secular music are:
Those who live in secular houses
Those who drive secular cars
Those who have secular jobs
Those who wear secular clothes
Those who use secular money
Those who use secular computers
Those who eat secular food

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cluny, as usual, you convolute, misapply and leave the topic of the blog.
---Eloy on 7/22/11


\\and that we are not in any ways bound by any rudimentary rules nor regulations of earthly form\\

Jared Lee Loughner said similar things in the rambling video tape he made before he went on his shooting rampage in Tucson.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/21/11


Cluny, The finished product of what we now know as Handel's "The MESSIAH" is perfect as it is. It, in it's finished form, as we know it today, exalt's GOD and GOD's Son, the Messiah YAHUSHUA (JESUS). So, when I listen to it, (as I have my own recorded copy), it gives GOD Glory. And, it causes me to reflect on the True Messiah....NOT on an italian romance. So, you're still missing the point.
---Gordon on 7/21/11


I didn't read through this entire thread because it's long, but I do think there is a big difference between the music of Handel and Lady Ga Ga. Many secular artists and movie producers for that matter,have insight into the human condition (reflected in the lyrics). The human condition is something everyone can relate to because we are all part of it.

And God understands the human condition also. It's only natural to relate to the things that are common to you from birth. We were all born on earth.

I would just stay away from things that are clearly anti-God or anti-Christ or vulgar. Being conscious of the presence of God in your life when you make your choices.
---aej on 7/21/11


\\The fact remains, there is Christian, and there is secular music, and neither one has anything in common with the other.\\

Yes, they do.

They are both based on the equal-tempered scale, use the same notation, are played on the same instruments, and are ususally performed and composed by the same people.

||Anglican prose... the lion lays down with the lamb,||

If you knew English prose, you would know that "Anglican" means relating to the Church of England or groups derived from it, and that the lion LIES down with the lamb, not "lays".

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 7/21/11




Eloy:

You said: there is Christian, and there is secular music, and neither one has anything in common with the other.

Both "secular" and "Christian" music use the same scales, use the same instruments, use the same poetic forms, the same rhythms, the same vocabulary, and are sung with the same voices. In fact, the ONLY difference is the contents of the lyrics. With this ONE exception, they are exactly the same!
---StrongAxe on 7/21/11


Eloy:

You said: there is Christian, and there is secular music, and neither one has anything in common with the other.

Both "secular" and "Christian" music use the same scales, use the same instruments, use the same poetic forms, the same rhythms, the same vocabulary, and are sung with the same voices. In fact, the ONLY difference is the contents of the lyrics. With this ONE exception, they are exactly the same!
---StrongAxe on 7/21/11


cluny, The fact remains, there is Christian, and there is secular music, and neither one has anything in common with the other. The one is used for Christian ministry, and the other is used for worldly pleasures. You can keep your handel's messiah, and I will keep my Christian music. Down down down with the empty noises of the world, and up up up with the exultations of heaven.
---Eloy on 7/21/11


cluny, Have you flunked out of English, Inglesc, Anglican prose? Do you yet not know that the author of inspiration is the sole proprietor and definer of his or her own masterpiece? and that we are not in any ways bound by any rudimentary rules nor regulations of earthly form, but which inspiration transcends all manner of mans ingenuity and scholastic device? Indeed in inspiration, the celebate bears a child, the lion lays down with the lamb, flesh walks atop the water, and man resurrects to eternity.
---Eloy on 7/21/11


In accordance with his frequent practice when writing new works, Handel adapted existing compositions for use in Messiah, in this case drawing on two recently-completed Italian duets and one written twenty years previously. Thus, Se tu non lasci amore from 1722 became the basis of "O Death, where is thy sting?", "His yoke is easy" and "And he shall purify" were drawn from Quel fior che alla'ride (July 1741), "Unto us a child is born" and "All we like sheep" from N, di voi non vo' fidarmi (July 1741).

Deal with it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/20/11




These are the Apostates who enjoy the LUSTS of this world! Yet these same people will cry "Lord "Lord!" But their Hearts are FAR from Him.
Their hearts remain on Earth and they see no Heaven, nor do they care to!

AND...

When you marry The World... you divorced The Christ!!!


And so your judgement awaits you!

For "G-d will NOT be mocked!"
---John on 7/20/11


Well i am curious. Those of you who are opposed to secular music, what type of music do you make love to:
IS it " rock of ages" or "rock me tonite?"

Is it a hymn of spiritual healing such as "There Is A Balm in Gilead" or marvin gaye's " sexual healing?"
---Francis on 7/20/11


\\I have never seen such hooping and yelling, jumping up and down, rocking, rolling. Man those kids were all worked up. Makes me wonder what they all did after church...
---shira3877 on 7/20/11
and you would like them to be what? in a bar with fake ID, sleeping around, cursing like a sailor, disrespecting parents, having shallow friendships, stealing etc. \\

Do you actually think there is nothing in between these two?

\\These kids have choosen what is best (Jesus) and it will not be taken away from them.\\

Have they?

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 7/20/11


** It was not until a rap group called PUBLIC ENEMY made a hit song called " by the time I get to Arizona" That Arizona accepted MLK day.**

The post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy again.

** and which american does not sing the "The Star-Spangled Banner?"**

Most sing it badly. And the tune was ADAPTED from an English drinking song, "To Anacreon in Heaven."

Eloy, there are editions of MESSIAH that give the original dance tunes and secular songs that Handel had previously composed and recycled. Your refusal to admit it happend doesn't change the truth.

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 7/20/11


\\Cluny, When we're talking about "secular" we are really SUPPOSED to be talking about "secular" in the sense of the things of "the world, the flesh and the Devil".\\

A Beethoven symphony is just as secular as a Lady Gaga ditty.

If you've talking about popular rock music, say so.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/20/11


I have never seen such hooping and yelling, jumping up and down, rocking, rolling. Man those kids were all worked up. Makes me wonder what they all did after church...
---shira3877 on 7/20/11
and you would like them to be what? in a bar with fake ID, sleeping around, cursing like a sailor, disrespecting parents, having shallow friendships, stealing etc. This is the life most teenagers live these days. These kids have choosen what is best (Jesus) and it will not be taken away from them.
---Scott on 7/20/11


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When it comes to music, christians need to worry abut content IE lyrics.
The earliest form of record history was story telling, followed closely by music.
In african, and african american history, music or what you call secular music remains a means of recording historical events.
example: A few years ago in USA, Arizona did not accept MLK day. It was not until a rap group called PUBLIC ENEMY made a hit song called " by the time I get to Arizona" That Arizona accepted MLK day.
Aften times the pain, joy and sufferings of a people or a nation is recorded in it's secular music, and which american does not sing the "The Star-Spangled Banner?"
---francis on 7/20/11


\\cluny, adapting a secular song to a Christian one, as you have wrongly said Handel's Messiah has done, for if the song was originally secular and Handel CHANGED the song, then he has Not Adapted anything, but has changed the song in order to make it Christianed and not secular.\\

Eloy, if something is adapted for another purpose, it has been changed.

Don't you even know English?

You've already made it plain that you are as learned in music history and styles as you are in ancient languages.

As far as "dissing" you, all I can say is keep on blessing me.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/20/11


Cluny, When we're talking about "secular" we are really SUPPOSED to be talking about "secular" in the sense of the things of "the world, the flesh and the Devil". And "world" here meaning the realm of the pagan, ungodly world system and way of thinking. This is a CHRISTIAN Blog-Site and this kind of "secular" should be our concern. The Music of Handel, whether originally of "secular" sound was used for GOD's Glory. And, it IS uplifting for GOD's Glory. Can we say the same about "GODSMACK", Britanny Spears, or AC/DC's spiel...??
---Gordon on 7/20/11


The world hasn't adopted anything spiritual but the church has adopted the so called christian "rock". That is about as ungodly as one can get....talk about secular. All this is done so the teens will want to go to church. I visited a church like that once as a favor for a charity. I have never seen such hooping and yelling, jumping up and down, rocking, rolling. Man those kids were all worked up. Makes me wonder what they all did after church...
---shira3877 on 7/20/11


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cluny, adapting a secular song to a Christian one, as you have wrongly said Handel's Messiah has done, for if the song was originally secular and Handel CHANGED the song, then he has Not Adapted anything, but has changed the song in order to make it Christianed and not secular. It would be the same as taking a Christian song and CHANGING it by adding rock and roll rhythym and removing all aspects of Christ and the gospel from it in order to secularize it that it may me aapted for the worldly, then it only longer is Christian, but is CHANGED to a worldly song.
---Eloy on 7/20/11


Gordon, A-men, there is alot of pleasant sounding music and instruments which are void of lyrics which can be used to promote a calm peacful state: but this is not Christian music, but is considered secular, that goes for classical sounds which have no Christ in them also. Many musical instruments can be played either for Christian purpose or not for Christian purposes. All music not played for Christian purpose is considered secular for it is not used to specifically praise Christ nor to specifically minister Christ to the audience.
---Eloy on 7/20/11


Cluny, Is it? Yes, indeed it is, always and at all times. cluny, if you would listen half as much as you do dissing, then you would gain understanding and knowledge. You have never heard this truth before because you carnally stop up your ears opposing the message from Christ and Christians, and instead you tune in your hearing to AntiChrist and vain worldliness.
---Eloy on 7/20/11


\\Secular music is not adapted to sacred uses, whereas Christian music is used in worship and praising and for sacred uses.\\

Please see what I said earlier about Handel's oratorio MESSIAH. That's EXACTLY what Handel did--adapt his previously written dance music and secular songs to sacred words.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/20/11


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Cluny, A person does not have to have a "doctorate" to simply recognize the difference between something that is Good opposed to something that is Evil. Yes, most Classical Composers were secular. But, there were a few Godly Composers, too. Even, a good part of the secular Classical Compositions are without libretto (lyrics) and are of a beautiful and edifying nature that does not distract from GOD. Most of the Secular music of today, including Elvis and the Beatles, keep one focused on the flesh nature.
---Gordon on 7/20/11


Let's not throw out the baby with the bath water. Some secular music is okay as long as it is not so vulgar and immoral. Hard to find with today's music but some 80's music is relatively safe to listen to. I do however listen to Christian rock now. Also classical music and medieval music.

Classical music is harmless but a lot of the composers of such music were leading immoral lifestyles.

And some Christian groups have the long hair, tattoos and really are not that much different than their secular counterparts.

I just like music and concentrate on that and not the people.
---poopsey on 7/20/11


\\Alan, it is because secular music is made for one purpose, that is, to appeal to the sensual nature of mankind.\\

Is it?

I never heard such a thing said in any music department, even by those who had doctoral degrees in music from theological seminaries--two such professors were from Baptist ones.

I'm sure you know as much about music history and the motivations of composers as you do about ancient languages, Eloy.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/20/11


Alan, it is because secular music is made for one purpose, that is, to appeal to the sensual nature of mankind. And Christian music is made for the opposite purpose, that is, to glorify Christ by professing the gospel and ministering Christ to souls. Recall when Moses was on the mount receiving the 10 Commandments from God, how mankind was below using carnal music to appeal to the base nature of mankind? But automobiles and computers and machines are neither secular nor Christian: but these things can be utilized for either Christian ministry, or else for nonChristian use.
---Eloy on 7/19/11


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\\I realized then that there is a great big giant difference between Christian music and ALL other music.
---Eloy on 7/19/11\\

I was as Christian for years before I got my degrees in music, and have not found any difference in the idiomata of Christian and non-Christian Western art music. They use the same instruments and notation, and are produced by the same composers, and generally the same performers.

So....What's the difference, Eloy?

Please tell us. Inquiring minds want to know!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/19/11


kevin5443, you are confusing the 1570 A.D. term "sector" which means "division", with the late 13th century term "secular" which means "worldly". Secular is not a manmade concept to cause division. Instead "secular" is a term used to describe things that are worldly and temporal and related to the public civil state affairs, rather than things that are sacred and spiritual and related to the private ecclesiatical affairs. Secular music is not adapted to sacred uses, whereas Christian music is used in worship and praising and for sacred uses.
---Eloy on 7/19/11


Seeing all is,was,will be for the Glory of GOD,"secular" is a manmade concept,designed to cause division and discord :(
---kevin5443 on 7/19/11


\\Gordon, A-men brother. I had hundreds of dollars in a rather large collection of soft rock and pop CDs\\

I've never wasted my money on any thing like this, and I've been born again only once.

Why did you do that after being born again twice, as you claim?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/19/11


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Gordon, A-men brother. I had hundreds of dollars in a rather large collection of soft rock and pop CDs and only a few Christian CDs. And one night when I was sleeping my Lord woke me up and said, "I want you to throw out your nonChristian music." I said OK, and I got up and put the CDs into a large brown grocery bag and threw them out. But I kept a few that I liked that I thought were ok. I went back to sleep, and the Lord woke me up again, and said, "I said, All of them." Agreeing, I got up and took the few nonChristian CDs I had left and I threw them out also. I realized then that there is a great big giant difference between Christian music and ALL other music.
---Eloy on 7/19/11


I posted the question because I wonder why secular music is regarded as evil, whereas secular houses secular secular jobs secular clothes secular money secular computers and secular food are quite OK
---alan8566_of_uk on 7/17/11

Christian music is defined to uplift God/Jesus. Everything else on the list does not make sense. If we have secular car/money/etc how do I get religious car/money/etc. If we are able to create such things we (Christians) would be completely cutoff from society and arrogant. Look at how much just one thing, music, has done on this blog alone. Ex "I only listen to Christian music because i am better than those people who listen to that rock n roll"
You may not say it but you think it.
---Scott on 7/19/11


Eloy, Yes, what you said is true. A Pastor Dan Corner said, in regards to secular music, that it simply keeps a Christian focused on the temporal and worldly things, and distracts us from keeping our focus on YAHUSHUA (JESUS) Himself. That was a good enough reason. Which I found to be true. 'Cause, for awhile, I was hearing that it's not good for Saints to listen to secular pop music. But, I have some that's more "family friendly", as I like to call it, but, couldn't see what was wrong listening to them. But, even THOSE songs can keep you focused on the temporal things of the world. It's worth our heeding.
---Gordon on 7/19/11


The only Christians who are allowed to play secular music are:
Those who live in secular houses
Those who drive secular cars
Those who have secular jobs
Those who wear secular clothes
Those who use secular money
Those who use secular computers
Those who eat secular food
May i add to the list: Those who have secular conversations
---francis on 7/18/11


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Alan, that's funny. What is considered secular food? is it nonkosher food?
---Eloy on 7/18/11


IMO a lot of today's "Christian music" actually is neither. The doctrine is often poor and so is the quality of the music.

I seldom listen to it. I like "oldies", including some older Christian music and hymns...but then I'm an oldy myself.
Secular music is OK, but I don't know why any Christian would like music with blasphemous or obscene lyrics...even if it is popular with their secular peers.
---Donna66 on 7/18/11


I prefer Christian music but I also like good secular music. I told my husband the song I want to hear the morning I get my double mastectomy goes something like "Just remember I love you and everything'll be all right" :) It comforts me. :)
---Mary on 7/18/11


Eloy, if you think that Jesus is just an ingredient you add to lyrics, then you might want to know that many of the movements of Handel's great oratorio MESSIAH were merely recycled dances and songs he had written earlier.

Now what?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/18/11


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Gordon, A-men brother. What is a goodly song if it has no Jesus in it? Without Christ, the music is a mere stroking of the emotions, but put Jesus in it's core and the song becomes anointed and his Spirit will bless and minister and can convert the soul.
---Eloy on 7/18/11


James, you are right about Steven Curtis Chapman. Anyone that has heard his voice have felt the love of God in him. He doesn't have to mention God, all he does is display's his love for God. Many of this great brothers could be making millions outside of Christian music but rather sing for Christians. And many of those songs touch our own Christian lives and give us hope in times of trouble.
---Mark_V. on 7/18/11


Steven Curtis Chapman has a song titled "Cinderella" that plays regularly on K-Love.

It's called "Christian" but there isn't one mention of God in any way, shape or form. It's a completely secular song that talks about his daughter growing up.

Written because of a very tragic end to her life as a little girl, it is a very sad song if you know the story, and it is very beautiful.

But it is still secular.
---James_L on 7/17/11


some of the tracts on Jewel's "Spirit" are more "christian" than christian music. what we label as secular and christian maybe labeled another way by the Lord.
---aka on 7/17/11


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\\Cluny, PLEASE. There's a far cry of a difference between Claude Debussy's secular Composition of "Afternoon of a Faun" and one of BEYONCE's hip-grinding, flesh-tintallizing, beat-thumping dance tracks. Ya think??\\

And just what kind of faun do you think Debussy's tone poem was about?

Hint--it wasn't Bambi's cousin.

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 7/17/11


Gordon:

Both Debussy and Elvis Presley are secular music. What matters is NOT whether they are secular, but whether they are good, and to determine that, we must judge each on its own merits.

Most things in life are secular. Unless we eat manna from heaven, we use secular money to buy secular gasoline to put into secular cars to drive to secular stores to buy secular groceries to put on our secular tables in our secular homes. Nobody makes "biblical cars" or "biblical food" (unless you puree and eat a bible). All of these are man-made. We must decide, on an individual basis, whether these things are edifying. Philippians 4:8 suggests such discernment for thoughts, but it applies to everything else as well.
---StrongAxe on 7/17/11


Are you Christianed, or are you carnal? The worldly like worldly music, and the heavenly like heavenly music. Hallelujah! Praise you Jesus! Bless the Lord, O' my soul, and all that is within me, praise his holy name! Praise you Jesus! for you are worthy to be praised. You are high and lifted up! high above all the earth. We give you honor and majesty and glory and dominion and power and praise and blessing and virtue, now and for ever always. Praise you Jesus! Let the fruit of my lips praise the Lord! For his praise will forever be upon lips. I magnify you Lord! Praise you Jesus! my heart cries out to the living God. Praise you Jesus! Hallelujah! Jesus, there is none like up to you, you alone are my Lord and my God. Praise you Jesus!
---Eloy on 7/17/11


Cluny, PLEASE. There's a far cry of a difference between Claude Debussy's secular Composition of "Afternoon of a Faun" and one of BEYONCE's hip-grinding, flesh-tintallizing, beat-thumping dance tracks. Ya think??
---Gordon on 7/17/11


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Gordon, Yes, and i understood your comment, but i happen to disagree, Music is an essential part of life.
and indeed is as Spiritual buildingblocks that determine our thinking in a ay greater manner then we can imagine. That's why music is also so well used by the devil (however i do not advocate against secular music)
Music Always was the carier of things in our spirit. in a way music is like spiritual blood: what we put in the music spoils it or helps it.
music in the wrong hands is extremely dangerous, it brings good or bad, it changes characters, moods and situations. modern moviemakers have well understood this message. what made Shrek rageing popular? it's music... Music is an essential part of humanity next to food and water
---andy3996 on 7/17/11


KarenD:

If I remember correctly, your church is an Assemblies of God one. Elvis Presley was from the Assemblies of God. Their published materials speak highly of this guy.

I'll never forget what I learned at a drug education seminar that was put on by Elvis' step-brother Rick Stanley. Elvis had to bail Rick out of jail on a drug charge. Rick has a great ministry and I believe that Elvis helped Rick a great dea.

While Elvis Preley's lifestyle obviously wasn't good, I think that you can learn A LOT from what he lived through.

First of all, if you even need to THINK about using drugs, you're heading down the wrong path. Time to STOP and SURRENDER to GOD. Even if you're a Christian. Like Elvis Presley was.
---Sag on 7/17/11


alan8566_of_uk:

I like the topic. very nice!

In this area (as well as any others, whenever there is a question whether we should be involved with them or not), this word of wisdom always comes in handy:

Philippians 4:8
"Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report, if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things."
---StrongAxe on 7/17/11


I posted the question because I wonder why secualr music is regarded as evil, whereas secular houses secular secular jobs secular clothes secular money secular computers and secular food are quite OK
---alan8566_of_uk on 7/17/11


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James, I am with you on this one very much and also with Darlines reasons she gave. I think that many become legalistic in their faith. Music is wonderful to hear. I love to hear the different voices for God has gifted many with great voices. I love the musical instruments also very much. The symphony is just awesome to hear, when I went to the first one, I was so thankful that I went. And almost all Christian music is very inspiring to our lives. I have cried listening to some of those songs about Christ on the way to work. They beginned my day totally on Christ and what He did for me. Many who sang beautiful songs died in their sins, but the gift of God which was displayed by them will stay with us till we die. God gives great gifts to people.
---Mark_V. on 7/17/11


ELOY, Good words you gave to consider regarding worldly music.
---Gordon on 7/17/11


I think it's interesting that the first mention of musical instruments comes from Cains lineage. For me the words are most important. I love music that glorifies God but I also enjoy music that lets my wife see through words my love for her(which I sing to her), very rare in christian music. If a person feels they shouldn't then don't but do not condemn others if they do not consider it "of the Devil". Another interesting note: the church as a whole through the past 100yrs in this country have said any music, meaning christian music, that does not meet their standard of what they say Christian music is, "ain't nothing but the devil"
---willa5568 on 7/17/11


Andy3996, PLEASE, go back and carefully re-read my comment. I'm afraid you misunderstood what I was saying. I said that Music was important. But, what ISN'T important or necessary is the TYPE of music that abounds today. That is, the Secular, worldly music which contain lyrics of sexual lust, double-entendres that secretly imply sexual immorality, and which also focuses on personal grudges, vengeance and broken lives. The above Blog Question, which Alan posed, was specifically aimed at Secular music. GOOD Music is important, not evil "muzak".
---Gordon on 7/17/11


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KarenD, I have NEVER called Elvis the King and I would appreciate it if you would kindly keep your judgements and criticisms to yourself. I do NOT idolize Elvis...I'm a fan, that's it.
I went to two of his concerts and I was saved and when everyone else was screaming his name out to him, I sat there quietly and just said, "Lord, please know You are my King, not him."

I forgot you Karen are perfect and I'm not. Sorry about that. I mean you are sinless and I'm not, and for that I'm sorry.
---Donna5535 on 7/16/11


Why is it that people idolize someone like Elvis who died of a drug overdose and was a womanizer and let people call him "the King?" It always amazes me when someone who constantly posts very positive, uplifting comments on these blogs suddenly tells us that she is an Elvis fan.
---KarenD on 7/16/11


\\"Be fulfilled with Spirit, delivering to yourselves psalms and hymns, and spiritual odes, singing and plucking with the heart of you to the Lord." Eph.5:19.
---Eloy on 7/16/11\\

Whowever taught you Greek was either a lousy teacher or has a lousy student, Eloy.

"Psallondes" does not mean "pluck" but "sing."

"Kardia ymon" does not mean "heart of you" but "your [plural] hearts {note this is also plural]".

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/16/11


A-men Bill, "Be fulfilled with Spirit, delivering to yourselves psalms and hymns, and spiritual odes, singing and plucking with the heart of you to the Lord." Eph.5:19.
---Eloy on 7/16/11


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\\But, one could do well without secular music (there's Classical and Worship Music, etc. to listen to, instead).\\

Most classical music is quite secular.

Didn't you know that?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/16/11


If it dosent glorify God and reminds you of your OLD SELF then you have no business listening to it.

Touch not
Taste not
Want not

Abstain from all appearances of evil.

But I suppose if one desires to partake then they will justify it any way they can.

Paul
---paul on 7/16/11


C'mon Gordon, "one could do well without"? what came first the chicken or the egg, when we look in the bible, one of the verry first things man created was musical instruments Gen.4:21
it was the first thing invented by man. therfore music IS IMPORTANT and a nescesity
---andy3996 on 7/16/11


God graciously supplies my every need. He gave me my secular house,clothes,money,car,food and yes my secular computer and my cell phone. He does not expect me to use it for secular things. Music, that is another story. The music I listen to is Godly music.
---shira3877 on 7/16/11


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C'mon ALAN, those are unfair analogies that you offered in your above Blog Question. For Food is a basic necessity. Houses (shelter), Clothing, money ( to give Tithes and Offerings, to buy food, pay bills, utilities), Cars for transportation. Music is important, too. But, one could do well without secular music (there's Classical and Worship Music, etc. to listen to, instead). AND, besides, most of modern secular music (rock and country) of the past 50 years is music that celebrates life in the Lusts of the flesh. The things you mentioned can be idols to people, but in and of themselves are not Lust provokers. A car and a house do not "sing" about a sexual, lust-filled one-night stand that ends with broken hearts and broken lives.
---Gordon on 7/16/11


Secular food can have a very different effect than secular music. The content of secular food can be nutritious, but often enough the secular content of music is not wholesome. And if we are content because of God's love feeding our souls with His love's beauty of melody in our heart . . . "making melody in your heart to the Lord" (in Ephesians 5:19) > well, I would not include secular stuff in making melody to our Lord.
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/15/11


Some secular music is definitely wrong to listen to, while some is ok in that it does not go against the Truth.I think it BEST to listen to whatever edifies, encourages in the Truth, brings glory to God.

Philippians 4:8
"Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirableif anything is excellent or praiseworthythink about such things."
I enjoy a variety of music, but find that the Spirit convicts it's not appropriate.Just listening to Wonderful Merciful Savior and In Christ Alone while here.
---Christina on 7/15/11


It is better to listen to Christian music, which gives glory to Christ, then to listen to nonChristian music, which does not give glory to Christ. The Lord personally dealt with me about this in the past, he clearly does not like any worldly music at all. People may like misapplied gifts, but Christ created music to give glory to him: "You are worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for you have created all things, and for your pleasure they are and were created." Revelation 4:11.
---Eloy on 7/15/11


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I once got in trouble with Christian friends when I told them that I just couldn't stop listening to these songs by The Gamble Folk:

"Why Isn't Everybody Singing Allelu?"

"The Virgin Mary Had A Baby Boy"

"Christmas Boy"

When I asked WHAT was wrong, my friends replied that The Gamble Folk was a Satanic, gambling, recruiting club. What?

So, we're all Living-In-Sin just because of a possibly secular NAME? What about our: Homes, Food, Clothes, Cars, Computers, Roads, Mail, etc. ???

We all live IN this world. Just don't adopt the WAYS of the world. Problem Solved!
---Sag on 7/15/11


Cluny, you don't need to go that f ,today in most African bars and drinking accomodations we hear gospel and churchmusic whilst sipping our glass of beer wine or softdrinks, nothing profane about this,
---andy3996 on 7/15/11


what do you ghet when you play hardrock backwards continuously? a broken needle :-) what about coutry music what happens when you play that backwards? your wife, truck and dog return to you:-))
---andy3996 on 7/15/11


I don't know if I've mentioned it here, but in the Renaissance, the same piece would be sung with Latin words in church, French words at a banquet, and finally played on instruments and sped up for dancing.

Many (not all) of Luther's chorales were taken from popular folk tunes, slowed down, and sung with German sacred lyrics.

Was this music secular or sacred?

When I eat falafil or hummus or tabouli, it might have been made by mahometans, but by the time I bless it it's Orthodox Christian food, and turns into Christian me.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/15/11


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I listen to music for three reasons:

1) I like the sound of the instumentals

2) I like the sound of the vocals

3) I like the meaing of the words

Now, not all music has to appeal in all three aspects for me to enjoy it. There is some Chrsitian music that I hate because it is poorly composed or the vocalist's voice is unappealing.

There is some music that I like because of the arrangement and vocals, and I have never even paid attention to what they are singing about. In those cases, it's all about the music.

There are a couple of Elton John songs that sound amazing. Also Ray Charles, George Strait and Eric Clapton. But sometimes I have no idea what they are singing about, it just sounds good.
---James_L on 7/15/11


Since all those things apply to me and my life I can do nothing but agree. I am not a Christian because I do none of that but because I beleive in Christ and put him first in my life. It would be very hard for me not to listen to the songs my son writes and records. Family is the most important thing in this world to me next to God and family support is part of loving. We aren't meant to hide in a closet but to let Gods light shine through us in a way others will see and believe too.
---Darlene_1 on 7/15/11


No, Jesus in his freedom allows us to listen to christian and secular music.
Just some is uplifting and other degrading. What is christian music, what is secular music. Christian music up lifts the name of God and secular is either passive about God or against God.

If someone gets saved to "Highway to Hell" is it a christian song? Before you say anything Paul used a pagan temple to bring people to Christ. Highway is a wide path to Hell. Heaven is on the narrow path. So get off the highway. matt 7:13,14.
---Scott on 7/15/11


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