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Does God understand our situations?

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Elena, for a while now I have been listening to what you have to say and let me say that you have inspired me a whole lot. It is in times like this that we come closer and closer to Christ. Normally when things are going great, people take Christ for granted. Please keep doing what you are doing. After what I hear on line, your words are beautiful to the ears. Praise be to God in the Highest.
---Mark_V. on 8/25/11


Elena "The world needs to know & understandGod's hands not too short! Heb.9:But we see Jesus,who was made a little lower than the angels,now crownedwith glory and honor because he suffered death,so that the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. Love of Jesus." Amen, and stay in the Word, sharing too. Bless you
---Chria9396 on 8/23/11


Chria,thanks. God bless you 'n everybody on here! I told 'em (my pastor) churchLove ChristiaNet.. we all help one another! long time isolation.. Immune system, chemo...The world needs to know & understandGod's hands not too short! Heb.9:But we see Jesus,who was made a little lower than the angels,now crownedwith glory and honor because he suffered death,so that the grace of God he might taste death for everyone. Love of Jesus.. ELENA
---ELENA on 8/23/11


Elena, great and mighty is the Lord indeed! And:
"Though it costs all you have,get understanding.Is.40:28 Do you not know have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God,the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary,and his understanding no one can fathom. In fact... God know exactly what we go through! Love of Jesus... " Amen!
---Chria9396 on 8/23/11


Let's get into the word..Ps.147 Great is the Lord mighty in power His understanding has no limit.Pro.4:7.. Though it costs all you have,get understanding.Is.40:28 Do you not know have you not heard? The Lord is the everlasting God,the Creator of the ends of the earth. He will not grow tired or weary,and his understandingno one can fathom. In fact... God know exactly what we go through! Love of Jesus... Thanks!
---ELENA on 8/23/11




Paul, the fall of man is so great that his love is sin. He cannot make a decision for Christ unless his disposition is change. God has to change it. Jesus said,
"He who believes in Him is not condemned, "but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. "And this is the condemnation, that the light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light" (John 18-19).
---Mark_V. on 8/23/11


paul

I hope you are perfect & sinless if you think that god should understand our sins. if a person thinks that he does not sin he is a liar.
---mike on 8/22/11

Care to elaborate on this comment as to why you think I think this way.

Paul
---paul on 8/22/11


paul

I hope you are perfect & sinless if you think that god should understand our sins. if a person thinks that he does not sin he is a liar.
---mike on 8/22/11



that's the problem with christians they will force people to accept THEIR interpretation so they can show how holy & sinless they are.
---mike on 8/8/11

Agree with your statement somewhat.
Also have a problem with those who use their denominational battering ram.
What is really outstanding though is when you ask or give them a Prophets and Apostle or Christ witness opposed to their denom or doctrinal opinion.
They either will run with or away when 2 or more witnesses are after em.
Deuteronomy 19:15
One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
---Trav on 8/8/11


why don't you read it & figure it out.
that's the problem with christians they will force people to accept THEIR interpretation so they can show how holy & sinless they are.
---mike on 8/8/11




Donna

I'm as lost as a goose in a chicken race on this one.

Paul
---paul on 7/29/11


Mike-- What in John 12 relates to what you are talking about?
---Donna66 on 7/28/11


Mike

I think you have taken my answer to a very vague question which I answered as relates to a very specific aspect of a perspective view of the vague question.

And without any investigative analysis on your part, superimposed my comments to fit into your definition of the vague question to bring forth a desired outcome in an attempt to make it seem as if though my comment was based upon your definition.

If this is intentional I find it to be very petty and juvenile, if it is a misunderstanding allow me to clear it up for you.

I do not feel peoples misfortunes are necessarily a direct imposition of them sinning, as John 9:3 implies, but typically it is a byproduct of their decisions in life.
---paul on 7/26/11


Mike
Do you have me confused?

Where have I said anyone is suffering due to their sins?

You are going to have to retrace and find out where you got off track.

I have NO CLUE what you are on about.

Post my quote or drop it.

Paul
---P on 7/26/11


God is all knowing.
---jody on 7/25/11


paul

don't stereotype you...

what is the question? the question is people are suffering, children are in wheelchairs or parents have autistic children you name it, you see the suffering.
what is your answer 'does god allow my sin'? you did your own stereotyping.
john 12: the pharisees & the disciples asked 'why is this man blind is it bec. of sin?'
god does not condone sin? really?
you have pastored? in the bible, christ mentioned that the pharisees love position & money that is why your answer is like the disciples in john 12
---mike on 7/25/11


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Paul, thank you for your response. I don't know anyone who says his a Calvinist. I know people that know Scripture, and know it well. None of us knows everything there is to know about God, but one thing we all have in common is that we look at Scripture from God's perspective and not from man's. When God saved me, I had no bias on anything. I was led from person to person by God, each with something to give. As I grew in the knowledge of the Lord, I never had any trouble believing in who God is. It was so clear to me. And thought it was clear to everyone, yet what troubled me was why not? Don't all believers see the same thing? I realized they don't. What's clear to me might not be clear for someone else and vice versa. Peace
---Mark_V. on 7/23/11


Paul 3: First of all I love you
---Mark_V. on 7/23/11

Mark

I want you to know my posts are not personal towards you, they are a reflection of my studies as are yours.

I have a dear friend in my town who is a Calvinist, we strongly disagree on a lot of things, he is only a four point calv so he has Armenian views as well.

But I love him dearly and thoroughly enjoy his company.

You my friend are his cyber equal.
I truly enjoy debate with you and anticipate your responses.

I do love you and I'm not just being platitudinous.

I appreciate you, though I disagree with you a lot,and look forward to shearing eternity with you.

You'll know me, I'll be the saying see I told you.
---paul on 7/23/11


Paul 3: First of all I love you and want you to just check the word of God. That's all. For believing in the Son of God is so vidal to our salvation. And without that revelation from God, no one of himself can create that faith in heart unless God grants them that revelation. The Spirit reveals the Word of God and without the Spirit, flesh and blood cannot reveal it. I don't mind that others do not believe this Truths, but it is vidal for the souls of many, and so many pastors are teaching opposite to what the Word of God says. So many make a committment but don't know the real Truth. That is why the gate is narrow. Most of the Christian churches are preaching free will. If they were all going to heaven, the gate would be wide.
---Mark_V. on 7/23/11


Mark once more you insist that because I dont believe like you do that it is lack of revelation on my part which apparently disqualifies me to be a Pastor, since I dont have your version of revelation.

Why cant you see in the scriptures that God gave theses men a chance to repent and as you said they CHOSE not to. But the opportunity was there, the had the revelation of who God was and were presented with the opportunity.

In your words:
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Of course He was speaking to heathen Gentiles and was telling them to repent. Thats the call from Scripture. But will they repent? They are not willing to repent. You know why? Because God has not granted them repentance
---Mark_V. on 7/22/11
---paul on 7/22/11


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Mark 2

So God, through His Apostle, presents salvation through repentance and then declines the invitation, is this your best explanation through revelation.

You see a lot of times what men think is insight from God is simply their perception of reality not revelation.

Love ya like a brother but you are way off.

Paul
---paul on 7/22/11


Paul, as a pastor you should know this Truths. Your bias of Calvin stops you from listening to the Spirit teachings.
Of course He was speaking to heathen Gentiles and was telling them to repent. Thats the call from Scripture. But will they repent? They are not willing to repent. You know why? Because God has not granted them repentance ( 2 Tim. 2:25,26 ). And what did Jesus say to Peter, "But you, who do you say that I am" Peter answered saying "saying, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God" And Jesus said? "Flesh and blood had not revealed it to him but His Father in heaven" of his own self, Peter would never know Jesus was the Son of the living God. It had to be revealed to him.
---Mark_V. on 7/22/11


Paul 2: If your bais towards false teachers then why do you not know this Truths? All pastors should know that the Gospels are full of Truth. Jesus when asked why He spoke in parables, He answered "Because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand" and ( Matt 13:34) says, "All these things Jesus said to the crowds in parables, indeed, He said nothing to them without a parable" They never understood a thing He said. But Jesus revealed it to the disciples. The hearing and seeing and understanding has to come from God. A person of himself can do nothing. I believe before anyone condemns something one needs to study it and compare to Scripture, and pray for a revelation from God.
---Mark_V. on 7/22/11


Mark

my bias is toward false teachings not people in particular.

Paul was ministering to these men in the time God had prepaired for them to be ministered to.

Paul was minister to the gentiles and had to be appointed to them for such a time as this.

Why cant you see he gave them all a chance to repent, all men everywhere. I know you have to see that.

But I know you will continue to defend your limiting God respect of persons brand of dogma you espouse.

Let God be God and step out of it.

Paul
---paul on 7/22/11


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Paul, as I can see you bias against Calivin blinds you to the Truth for I quoted the passages from Scripture. Acts 17:28 Paul was speaking to a heathen audience. (v.22) Indicates Paul stood in the midst of the Areopagus and talked to "Men of Athens, who had objects of worship, and found an altar with the inscription "To the Unkown God" The one they worship was not God. Paul explained to them what God had done, and most important said about God,
"And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, "and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings, so that they should seek the Lord" (v.26,27)
---Mark_V. on 7/21/11


Mark

He was telling the men that their gods are false and gave them ALL a chance to repent and become whole in Christ so they to could partake.

Ac 17:28 "for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, 'For we are also His offspring.'
29 "Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man's devising.
30 "Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent,

How does all men everywhere line up with the false teachings of calvin?

Paul
---paul on 7/21/11


Mike

I have Pastored for years and TYPICALLY when you see "does God understand" it means does God accept me and my sin as I am.

So why are you blasting me for no reason?

I said nothing but the truth and If that offends you then take it to the Father.

Please don't profile me into your stereotypes without knowing about me, very unbecoming of you.

Paul
---paul on 7/21/11


Yes of course, he knows all things, the end from the beginning: for all tbings are naked and open up to the eyes of him of whom we have to do.
---Eloy on 7/21/11


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If God didn't understand something he would not be God. He created us and designed it all. Many times He permits us to get into trouble for the purpose of bringing us to a stronger faith. Christan said it best,
"Nothing happens in this world surprises God one iota."
Everything people did and will do is present before Him. We might not understand this attribute of God, but it nevertheless is true, God told us through His Word. While we might think everything is going to hell in a basket, it is controlled by the Almighty power of God. "In Him we live, and move, and have our being" (Acts 17:28) These words were not spoken to the church, but to the heathen audience who worshipped "the unknown god"
---Mark_V. on 7/21/11


Mark Eaton,

good stuff, brother
---James_L on 7/20/11


paul

in luke 13 when christ healed a crippled woman on the sabbath, the pastor charged out & started blowing his mouth 'IT IS A SIN TO heal on a sabbath! it is a sin to heal on a sabbath!
You are that pastor.

and in luke 18 when the blind man cried out, you are part of the crowd who said SHUT UP!
thank you for your great compassion.
---mike on 7/20/11


paul

is that what I am talking about?

does god understand the suffering of the poor
does he undestand when your child is sick or you are unemployed or is trying to make ends meet?
typical, when people are suffering your answer is SIN.

that is why many are turned off with you christians bec. of your lack of understanding.
so if that is the case then if & when your child gets into a car accident the reason why he or she is maimed is bec. of sin.
---mike on 7/20/11


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God does understand those situations
---James_L on 7/20/11

I think the more appropriate question is "Do we TRUST God to understand our situations"?

Your friend whose son has died may be not be able to trust God because of the uncertainty of her son's final destination. Many here will say with certainty, that all suicides go to Hell. I choose to believe Rom 8:38-39 instead.

Your sister may not trust God in her situation with the boyfriend, but I choose to believe Rom 8:38-39 instead.

For me, this walk of faith has become about pleasing God and trusting Him. When I focus on those things, little about my situations matter. I need to die to SELF, and to live for Christ.
---Mark_Eaton on 7/20/11


My sister has a bumper sticker that says "God Rules". Goes to church, etc etc., believes that if we don't do EVERYTHING that God tells us to, we will go to hell.

So I asked about her boyfriend she was living with, "Do you think God approves of you fornicating with your boyfriend?"


Her response was earth-shattering:
"Well, God's just gonna have to get over it."

I want to tell you, I was undone.

Is this what is meant by God understanding our situations?

On the other hand, I met a woman today who's 15 year old son committed suicide a week ago. Many people who are hurting can't see how God can understand what they are gong through.

God does understand those situations
---James_L on 7/20/11


Nothing happens in this world surprises God one iota. Some say "God allows", but what did Peter declare in Acts 4:27,28 -

"For of a truth against thy holy child Jesus, whom thou hast anointed, both Herod, and Pontius Pilate, with the Gentiles, and the people of Israel, were gathered together, For to do whatsoever thy hand and thy counsel determined before to be done."

Did God "allow"? The very wicked act of crucifying Christ was predestined by God! Yet men will be held accountable. Go figure.

God does not need to understand our situations, He created us and David declares, "But our God is in the heavens: he hath done whatsoever he hath pleased." Psalm 115:3
---christan on 7/20/11


I've had people tell me, in reference to their or others behavior, "Oh, but God understands!"
My answer is usually, "He understands alright!.That doesn't mean He approves!"

The God who made us, who knew us before we were born, understands us completely, probably better than we do ourselves. At least, God has often showed me things about myself that I never recognized before!
---Donna66 on 7/19/11


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Of course, God understands our situations. He Himself took on human nature, remember?

Of course, even mere mortals can understand each other without necessarily approving of the other's actions.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/19/11


This is typically a catch phrase for "Does God Allow My Sin".

And the short answer is NO.

God is long suffering but will not condone continual sin for light has no fellowship with darkness nor will it abide therein.

Paul
---paul on 7/19/11


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