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Don't Be Harsh With Each Other

Are you concerned about the way we talk to one another, how harsh we are with each other? I am all for the give-and-take of debate, of different interpretations, of different ideas, but it does seem we are very very mean to each other. I suggest we pray for each other.

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To Donna66 you are very correct.I perceive you to be very wise! jMM often she teaches about how "yes" Christians thinskinget easily offended. I am verygratefull when I am correctedbecause I never knew the wayI 'd write in English offensive and I apologize entirely!!!I be more focused quit watching TV.
---ELENA on 8/11/11


God bless,for myself truly,few times I am surprized ...Some things (name callin') but,we can all of us ...Move on Be Forgiving! None perfect but Our Father God,Jesus & Holy Spirit. No better time than Now! I love to learn & share,Many here inspire Me Stay Focus' on God First,the Word & Respect.. We can all Get Along.. One person stated they do not believe Christians Love like they used to.. Don't Give up! There are many of us We goin' through & More determine...We stay before God & pray & fast ... God Really Is Real! Many on here open & humble,care about souls!Thank God for this chance to speak freely about Our Faith,views & the Bible! Never take it for granted! Love of Jesus!
---ELENA on 8/11/11


need havy prayer have been falling down on so miny things dilling with that.
---monrow_williams on 8/7/11


Genuine love has practically evaporated from the face of this world during these end days. Sometimes one needs to apply tough love because time is so short upon this world. I'm sure the last two prophets as told by John in revelation won't be acting nice when they are conveying their message from God.
---Steveng on 8/4/11


donna66, i said the same...

truth v. Truth.
---aka on 8/2/11




Aka---
//if the truth is told in the wrong spirit, is it the Truth?//
It CAN be! The Gospel can be presented in a way that scripturally quite true.
But if presented with an attitude of superiority and self-righteousness, or with an accusatory tone, the message will not be received, no matter how truthful the facts about Jesus and His Salvation may be.
---Donna66 on 8/1/11


spend it wisely by giving it away.

To God be all the Glory!
---aka on 8/1/11

Proverbs 16:16
How much better is it to get wisdom than gold! and to get understanding rather to be chosen than silver!

1 John 4:6
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us, he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

Exodus 28:36
And thou shalt make a plate of pure gold, and grave upon it, like the engravings of a signet, HOLINESS TO THE LORD.
---Trav on 8/1/11


//GOD Bless ya profoundly...because of your question, found a large nugget in da stream.// trav

spend it wisely by giving it away.

To God be all the Glory!
---aka on 8/1/11


donna66 as i agree, i must admit that sometimes someone will say something i do not accept, yet on the other hand i found that the generous respond or insults determin my reaction to. it reminds me much of Paul words " Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves" and hebrews, "suffer the word of exhortation":Ephesians 4
Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you, with all malice:
1 Thessalonians 5:21 Prove all things, hold fast that which is good.
THAT's WHAT WE NEED FOR US
---andy3996 on 8/1/11


On the other hand, I've noticed that even a thoughtfully respectful post can trigger an angry response. Many people are easily offended by any disagreement, calling any view contrary to their own, "heresy". Where religion is concerned, passions do run high.

There is also a responsibility to be forgiving, not thin-skinned. If opinions are allowed on this blog, they will inevitably conflict at times. That's part of what makes the process interesting.
---Donna66 on 7/31/11




//You can tell someone the truth, but if it's in the wrong spirit, they won't receive it, so why bother?//

if the truth is told in the wrong spirit, is it the Truth?
---aka on 7/29/11

Proverbs 25:11
A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold in pictures of silver.
AKA you sent me looking with your miners probe.

GOD Bless ya profoundly...because of your question, found a large nugget in da stream.

1 John 4:6
We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us, he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.
---Trav on 7/31/11


John, yeah that's what families do, they are always on the edge of catastrophe, but when the going ghets tough families stick toghether. i've seen this more then once, i've experienced this and did this. still every family should be well with a comunicationcourse
---andy3996 on 7/30/11


John,

are we not commanded by Jesus to love our neighbor as ourselves, including enemies? Love is not a feeling it is a heart determined to obey God because of the love he has shown us, giving ourselves for His glory to shine as lights. Correction and confrontation are certainly necessary in the church but it is the manner in which you do it, a spirit of gentleness. Anger, harshness and a self righteous judgmental spirit will have little if not the opposite effect to accomplish the purpose of correction. Truth is not a hammer to destroy but one used in a wise way to build the house. Use the hammer wisely to build the house not tear it down.

Gods peace and grace
---willa5568 on 7/30/11


Here lies the problem of todays Christainity.

Many so-called Christians are spiritualess. So they substitute humanism for Christianity. Much the same as Liberalism.

Both are G-dless. So both must introduce human values as a facade to spiritual values.

Compassion is a By-product of true Christians. The real product of Christians is
listed in Gal5:22


So you see "REAL" love in the 1st Century Christians that mostly does NOT exist today. You see them as Family . Not the fake Psuedos of today who "love everybody"(NOT possible).

You also see real vehement HONEST fights in the early church.(i.e Paul vs. Barnabus/John Mark. Paul vs. Peter.)

THAT'S WHAT CHRISTIAN LOVE IS!!!
---John on 7/29/11


//Leslie, I hear your points and understand them HOWEVER we must remember the scripture that says the letter kills, it's the Spirit that gives life.//

i definitely agree with these statements.

//You can tell someone the truth, but if it's in the wrong spirit, they won't receive it, so why bother?//

if the truth is told in the wrong spirit, is it the Truth?
---aka on 7/29/11


Leslie, your last post is correct. We have to stand firm when it comes to the Truth. There is this believe that God doesn't give justice. That some how because Jesus incarnate was kind to everyone, that He would not judge others, but we have to remember He will be the Judge of the wicked. He told the Judaizers "If God were your Father you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God" then He said, "You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do." Some don't want the wicked to be judge. God Himself put that division between satan's children and the Children of Christ, in Gen. 3:15.
---Mark_V. on 7/29/11


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andy, the Lord gave you the words to say to John. I just know it. John is right most of the time, and I like the way he stands firm on the Truth, but don't like how he phrases many things so terrible to others and groups people together as if everyone is bad or wrong, for there is many who are wrong and need to know the Truth.
I believe that you spoke for all of us who like John. God gave you the right words to say. Thank you andy.
---Mark_V. on 7/29/11


Leslie, I hear your points and understand them HOWEVER we must remember the scripture that says the letter kills, it's the Spirit that gives life.

You can tell someone the truth, but if it's in the wrong spirit, they won't receive it, so why bother?

Sometimes I come off straight-forward, no-nonense person and people do not like that. They want to be told Jesus loves you and they tell me they're going to heaven because they're a "good" person. Then I come back with, "If you think not forgiving your father for 20 years and him dying not knowing I came and got you to bring closure, you are totally deceived."

I can't help myself. I can't hold back sometimes.
---Donna5535 on 7/29/11


Andy, I will consider your suggestion.

Thanks!
---John on 7/29/11


John ideed you don't enter in the spirit of liberalism, however it seems to me that sometimes unawarely you've become a judge of the law instead. i know you do this withh the right zeal for God, yet i also know you try to defend pure slander as the word of the Lord. one example of your ways follows
"They are Earthly lazy Bourgoise carnal Phonies".
now i'm convinced that your idea is good, yet i also know that in re-frasing this thought, you could indeed cut just as much into the carnality of christianity without being a legalist judge of the law. MAY GOD GUIDE OUR WORDS.
---andy3996 on 7/29/11


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No one will go to hell because they didn't listen to us telling them they would go to hell if they didn't listen to us. We don't have the power to save anyone. That's God's job. In any case, hell is temporary. No one will stay there longer than is absolutely necessary. :-)
---John.usa on 7/28/11


Which is more loving, (1) to sugercoat something that does NOT line up with the Bible, or is sin and say it is okay, while the person ends up in Hell, or (2) to speak the TRUTH to that person because you care about their eternal soul and do not want to see them in Hell? If you think #1 is more loving, let me say that you are CRUEL and MEAN and that God thinks so too in His Word (Bible).
---Leslie on 7/28/11


both quotes are the same.. second is said with respect
---andy3996

Andy I don't subscribe to Political Correctness(The Scripture of Liberalism).

I said many times that Pseudo Christians are the ones who interchange The Religion of Liberalism with Christianity(The Fallen).

The examples I give is to contrast believers in scripture and Apostates of today.

These Apostates SELECT parts of Scripture (Mainly Lovey parts) NOT to promote Christ, BUT to continue in their Carnal BOURGEOIS Worldly lifestyle without guilt. Nothing more!

It allows them to be worldly and by "ACTING" nice they feel they are Christians. ALL PHONY!

Goodness is a BYPRODUCT of Christianity! NOT Christianity in itself!
---John on 7/28/11


I now believe that speaking the truth in love and with gentleness is an "art" that the Holy Spirit must teach us how to do. For some it comes naturally, but for me, my personality is very blunt and honest. I don't know how to sugarcoat the truth. So what I do now is if I disagree with someone, I'll state the Word to them one time and if they argue, I either keep silent or walk away. And sometimes at work I just keep my mouth shut all day long, boy is that hard..lol.
---Donna5535 on 7/28/11


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The Bible does say to speak the TRUTH in LOVE (Ephesians 4:15). The Bible also says that we are to let people know when they are in sin (warn them), or we will have their blood on our hands (Ezekiel 3:16-21). The Bible also says that we are to correct and rebuke by the Bible (1 Timothy 5:20, 2 Timothy 3:16, 2 Timothy 4:2). The reason we are to do this, is because there will be people who go AGAINST the Bible (2 Timothy 3:13, 4:3-4). This is NOT being harsh, but speaking the TRUTH in LOVE, because you care about their eternal souls.
---Leslie on 7/28/11


John, there is a difference between righteous ingnation that Jesus held, and the harsh critisism that people vommit, there is a difference between Paul and peter's disagreement, and the i'll kill you and i wish you to hell mentality of some here. by the way you should tell me what translation you use (gesturing and yelling) my translations KJV, NIV and a few others don't put it so colourfully LOL. lighten up, because it is exactely to ghet his behaviour you're showing out that this question was posed
there are always two ways of saying things anyhow
one could say in response to an answer
your a heretic OR i can see you don't quite follow the truth. both quotes are the same but firts insults second is said with respect
---andy3996 on 7/28/11


I have always been amazed how people who have their faces hidden or in a crowd have a totally diferent type behavior than when seen face to face. It is especially sad about Christians who don't show the love of God through them,to one another. It has bothered me from the very first time I saw it happen on here several years ago that is why I have always been giving verses about love from the Bible. It says it all when it gives the verse he that loves not knows not God. If we love we care,caring means concern for others,which brings us to pray for them. Yes, pray you one for another and so fulfill the law of love.
---Darlene_1 on 7/28/11


Those are good points Peter!

Sadly that is NOT the case for most who call themselves "Christians" here in America.

They are Earthly lazy Bourgoise carnal Phonies.

Blindly subscribing to the distorted Satanic facade of his new religion(Liberalism) a religious Cult that will accept everything without judgement. Except Christianity!

These are the ones who hope they can Mock G-d. But as scipture said "G-D Will not be Mocked!"

We were warn by Paul... "they will want to hear what tickles their ears". Those who "Preach the Traditions of men as doctrines of G-d"

THESE SAY..
Hey! We're save by Grace thats all I care about.

They neither care, or know G-d!
---John on 7/27/11


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\\What DID Jesus Do?

He called Peter SATAN
He turned over Temple tables Screaming/Yelling. Then he whipped Merchants!

What Would Paul/Peter do?

They went at it cursing/gesturing face to face. \\

John, are you claiming to be on the spiritual level of Sts. Peter and Paul--or even Jesus?

How can you be, when you're not OK at all?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/11


Either God is Love, or He is not. What are we to imitate? You decide, and live with the consequences. :-)
---John.usa on 7/27/11


John: Don't ask what Jesus did - HE knew the absolute truth, while we as sinful men and women, do not

And even when Jesus spoke harshly to Peter, as he did the night He was crucified, He still told Peter what to do when he returned.

All too often we accuse without proper reason

THAT is a violation of 'do not bear false witness' - if we don't have the evidence, we should keep quiet
---Peter on 7/27/11


What DID Jesus Do?

He called Peter SATAN
He turned over Temple tables Screaming/Yelling. Then he whipped Merchants!

What Would Paul/Peter do?

They went at it cursing/gesturing face to face.

So do you follow these people or do continue the drink the Wine of the Harlot Liberalism and its scriptures of Political Correctness(HippyLove/Peace). Is this your Christianity?

NOW IS THIS "YOUR" G-D...

"Now go, totally destroy everything that belongs to them. Do not spare them, put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys. (1 Sam 15:1-3)

IF NOT THEN YOU'RE APOSTATES PHONIES CARNAL FACADES.

AND JESUS SAID.. I WILL VOMIT YOU OUT OF MY MOUTH.
---John on 7/27/11


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"with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love," (Ephesians 4:2)

"And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (in Ephesians 4:32)

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/27/11
Amen! Thank you, I needed that myself.
---chria9396 on 7/27/11


The twelve chosen apostles of Jesus fought among themselves about "who would be the greatest" (Mark 9:33-37), and ones could look down on other apostles (Mark 10:35-45), in their competition to be the greatest over each other. But Jesus did not give up on them or pick and choose who was better and dump the rest. So, we can follow Jesus, by doing how He did (c:

"with all lowliness and gentleness, with longsuffering, bearing with one another in love," (Ephesians 4:2)

"And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (in Ephesians 4:32)

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/27/11


Like Jimmy Swaggart I am very much against the Catholic Church. I am not an Assembly of God person. I am not against you personally or individually but I am against the RCC's indoctrinations and teachings which I believe will send a person to hell if truly followed.
---mima on 7/27/11

Aren't there some teaching that Jimmy believes in which you do not believe? How do you determine he's right on one issue but wrong on the other?
---Ruben on 7/27/11


I am deeply concerned how persons speak to each other on these blogs. Whether we know each other or not we should always speak in love and honor each other(through speech). Not only does that please God but it also makes for a better world. Kindness never goes out of style. And it is godly,too.
Christians should especially be mindful of this because Jesus lives in us.
---Robyn on 7/27/11


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I suggest we pray for each other.
OK
---francis on 7/27/11


Allan,

thanks brother!
---willa5568 on 7/27/11


There is truth in anonymity. I will bet you that the Lord can deal with us better when we show ourselves (good or bad) than when we ACT nice.
---aka on 7/27/11

Agree totally. It is a form of being blind and seeing with the heart and mind.

Facebook is one of the most dangerous things sheep do. Every pervie wolf and low type in the literal world is invited into your literal home book. They can and do familiarize themselves with the personal habits,characteristics of these family's of sheep.

Christians/Sheep innocently think that all the world is like them.
Matthew 24:43
But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, ....
---Trav on 7/27/11


\\I am against the RCC's indoctrinations and teachings which I believe will send a person to hell if truly followed.\\

I wonder if you have any idea what the Roman Catholic Church actually teaches, mima? Jimmy Swaggart certainly didn't.

And what teachings do you object to? Can you articulate them?

And are you ever going to answer the question I asked you about whether you think you made holy by your faith in Christ and the Holy Spirit?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/27/11


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Like Jimmy Swaggart I am very much against the Catholic Church. I am not an Assembly of God person. I am not against you personally or individually but I am against the RCC's indoctrinations and teachings which I believe will send a person to hell if truly followed.
---mima on 7/27/11



I think being fair and having mercy are important. But, it is also equally important to stand up for what is right and stand up to evil and slanderous people.
---poopsey on 7/27/11




I understand the temptation to do so, and we all fall short sometimes, but a lot of posts are completely consumed by this trash talking yielding little insight to the actual topic.

Ac 8:32 He was led as a sheep to the slaughter, and like a lamb dumb before his shearer, so opened he not his mouth:

Pr 17:28 Even a fool, when he holdeth his peace, is counted wise: and he that shutteth his lips is esteemed a man of understanding.

Pr 15:1 A soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.

Paul
---paul on 7/27/11


Paul said "What they don't realize is just how unentertaining it actually is, and how much legitimate space and time it takes up" agreed, and yet HERE WE ARE.
---andy3996 on 7/27/11


Willa ... It is possible to have bold fonts here if you want to emphasise a word.

It is better thanh SHOUTING

To make bold ... type < b > before the word, then < / b > after the word

But leave out the spaces.

To get italics, use an i instead of the b
---alan8566_of_uk on 7/27/11


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I would have to say you need to find out why someone is being harsh? Sometimes there are reasons. Some people like to deal out the goodies but don't like it when it comes their way. Some think it their job to fix and control others but don't look at themselves.

I think being fair and having mercy are important. But, it is also equally important to stand up for what is right and stand up to evil and slanderous people.

Some of what John is saying is correct. Jesus did get angry. Mostly at the hypocritical pharisees. God gives grace to the humble but resists the proud and I know that God hates hypocrisy and religious phonies.

And sorry but facebook is a joke. Just the phony social club and trouble with a Capital T.
---poopsey on 7/27/11


Yes, our speech has been awful. However, it is the same in some churches.

For example, Jimmy Swaggart and the Assemblies of God. They are very ANGRY / CAUSTIC towards me and other Catholics. That's Christian Love?

I couldn't believe KarenD saying that Jimmy Swaggart was right about something. Possibly. But his mode of communication was completely UN-GODLY and Satanic.

I wonder if Churches, like the Assemblies of God, and Christians too, realize that if they mouth-off and treat others so badly, then they are going to have a very hard time reaching the rest of the world. GOD will give them all their Just Reward for being terrible witnesses for HIM.

GOD wants us to be LOVING witness for HIM. In every way too!
---Sag on 7/27/11


I know the WWJD acronym - Tammy

Well let's see what Jesus actually did...

He crashed the Temple Flipping Table/Screaming! Then proceeded to whip the hides of merchants.

Now let's see what Saul/Peter actually did...
They went Face to face swearing/cursing/using obscene hand jesters.

Now Peter had two people killed by the command of the HS.
Saul had a man blinded also by command of the HS

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST IS G-D HIMSELF...

HE COMMANDED....

Now go, attack the Amalekites/totally destroy everything. Do not spare them, put to death men, women, children, infants, cattle, sheep, camels and donkeys. (1 Sam 15:1-3)

Are YOU like any of these people? Or the Opposite.(Antichrist)
---John on 7/26/11


That is something that is sad about this blog spot considering I have noticed atheists on here. I have used all capital letters on words but only for the purpose of emphasizing certain words because for some reason they will not post in bold letters.
---willa5568 on 7/26/11


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I agree,
We can all tend to be a little colorful in our answers from time to time.

But some, mostly female, responses are very ungodly and have no place on an alleged Christian site.

To be quit frank, I don't understand why the mods let some of this trash on here,my only deduction is for the flair and entertainment aspect.

What they don't realize is just how unentertaining it actually is, and how much legitimate space and time it takes up.

Paul
---paul on 7/26/11


Mima, agreed. I'll try to do better. :-)
---John.usa on 7/27/11


//Many times I will stay away from such "discussions". //

i imagine myself like a cartoon character that sometimes gets sucked into a big fight in a dustball...with stars a-flying. when i realize this, i just step out. but, there are sometimes that we must stay and scrap in the dustball.

//Our new ChristiaNet Facebook crowd doesn't talk this way at all.//

Facebook is like going to church on the weekend. Dress clothes and make-up and stinky cologne and perfume.

There is truth in anonymity. I will bet you that the Lord can deal with us better when we show ourselves (good or bad) than when we ACT nice.
---aka on 7/27/11


Many times I lose all desire to even come to this site because of all the accusations of others being lost, deceived and such.
Capitalizing all letters as though screaming.
Saying such things as "I wish some would learn to read" and such.
The arogance is not only disgusting but a poor witness to the lost.
Those who try to show others they know the most or are the wisest and fail to see the word means what the Lord reveals by his Spirit and not Strong's Concordance.
This is slowly getting to be one of the worst sites and people do need to pray before posting. Blasphemy of the Holy Ghost can come in the form of typing as the tongue is the pen of a ready writer. Some must not fear God from what they post.
---Frank on 7/26/11


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\\Are you concerned about the way we talk to one another, how harsh we are with each other?\\

How about the harsh things you've said about me to others, mima?

Are you going to apologize for them?

And are you going to answer my question I asked you several weeks ago? I will repeat it here:

Do you believe that you are holy by your faith in Jesus and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit?

Yes or no.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/26/11


I completely agree with you Mima. I go for periods where I stop even reading the blogs for that very reason. God desires mercy and love from us and it hurts my spirit to see some of the comments being cruel. It is shameful..really. I love to read different ideas and to be inspired to research a point. Jesus preached that we should be "like-minded" and of "one-accord".Actually, we are to have "the mind of Christ" which is the Spirit of Prophecy. I pray that folks can begin speaking to one another in love.
---jody on 7/26/11


I know that some may think that the WWJD accronym is over used but if it prompts us to stop and think - "What would Jesus do?" before acting it is useful!
The key to success is getting to know who Christ is and how he behaves so we can strive to be Christ like. When we operate on our own we often operate in biased ways! The famous conflict between flesh and spirit!
---Tammy on 7/26/11


I have been troubled by the accusations, lack of love and respect. Many times I will stay away from such "discussions". I know all are not truly saved and some may be deceived, unaware of their behavior. If anyone is truly in error, thy ought to be corrected in love. Let the Holy Spirit have control. "Gods kindness is intended to lead you to repentance.." The accuser of the brethren has been busy...yes we ought to pray.
---chria9396 on 7/26/11


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Ga 5:15 But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another!

Paul
---paul on 7/26/11


what i'm worried about is that sometiems one needs two or three bloggs to give a reasonable answer, but that only the "offensive one ghets on the post. i suspect since that moderators sometimes ad oil on the fire in not consequently putting everything on the page
---andy3996 on 7/26/11


FINALLY, someone noticed!.

No matter how much truth can be learned by debate/discussion, the bottom line is...
.....WILL YOU SURPASS/SUPERCEDE 'THE BOOK'?.

Most believers never do anything more than the book says (weak and no courage, but also no true sense of love)....what 'bookmaster' could understand that the book of Job was a LOVE STORY. And what "bookmaster" would notice the female's greatest act of Godliness as shown in Luke 7:38?

"and wiped them with the hair of her head".

"God" must be LIVED, not bound in a BOOK. Tame the tongue.
---more_excellent_way on 7/26/11


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