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Paul said, "I Pastor a non-denominational church with no ties to anything but the Bible and accountable only to God Himself."
Do you realize that non-denominational is a denomanation.
If you really think that you are not accountable to anyone but God think again.
1. You didn't get this from the Bible.
2. Try speeding up and down your towns streets.
3. Don't pay your taxes, light bills and house/rent payment.
Too many pastors think the way you do. Or, did we misunderstand your statement?
---Elder on 8/7/11


I am not a pastor. But I certainly hope Paul doesn't have to deal with too many "sewers of discord" in his pastorate. I enjoy spirited discussion, even debate, when carried on with respect.

I've never had a desire to "chat" on CN or share my profile, because of all the bickering. I apologize if I have contributed in any way to the atmosphere of bitterness and rancor here, when I've disagreed with various views.
However, I'm now leaving CN for some healthier associations.
---Donna66 on 8/6/11


//You want to know what the hardest part of being a Pastor is, putting up with immature discord sewing trouble makers which I have encountered here.//

i would think the hardest part of being a pastor is participating in those such encounters in a manner that is not expedient and expecting privilege because i am a pastor.

just think of what Jesus endured because of people just like you and me.
---aka on 8/6/11


You want to know what the hardest part of being a Pastor is, putting up with immature discord sewing trouble makers which I have encountered here.

What you are doing is nothing less than allowing satan to use you as his whipping boys to perform his hateful and despicable will.

It may seem fun and swell your ego but i assure you their is a day coming when ego will cease to exist and you will be stripped down to your intents.

And if you do not turn from your wicked ways the Lord will say unto you to depart for He has no part in you.

What you do is not from God and it is a mockery to Him for you to disrespect His people.

I forgive you for your cruel judgments and accusations and pray for you all.

---paul on 8/6/11


--paul on 8/4/11

Here is ONE of your error: accountable only to God Himself. Do you really believe that pastors are only accountable to God?

Now here is what exposes non denominational churches
1: The are LOCAL ONLY meaning if i went to great britian would i find the exact same teaching in another church as I would yours? The answer is NO!

If you were a Catholic or SDA you could go to the end of the earth, and you would find a church with the same doctrines as the one you left at home Not so with non- denominational churches. The doctrines of each non denomination churches depends NOT on the bible, but on the pastor, that is why the doctrines differ from church to church.
---Francis on 8/6/11




We, are all accountable to GOD.
---Trav on 8/5/11

No truer words have ever been spoken, before you speak out you should ask yourself.

Do I ABSOLUTELY, EMPHATICALLY and UNMISTAKABLY know this to be a truth or could I be wrong about it.

If you make an accusation that their is a possibility you could be wrong about, and you turn out to be wrong, that is called bearing a false witness.

With that said I will end this post the same way I began it.

We, are all accountable to GOD.
---Trav on 8/5/11
---paul on 8/6/11


Trav

You have no idea what I am about, God has made me to be one who helps regardless.

I receive nothing for being a Pastor, my wife and I have both been blessed by the Lord in our secular jobs thus allowing us to be a blessing to those around us.

My wife has published her book and recorded two professional CD's.

We give the majority of them away. Prov 23:23

We operate a church completely on our own funds through our personal tithes.

Every Friday and Saturday we give away hot dogs and refreshments and give out food.

Were in a very poor neighborhood, God uses us to help a lot of people , so don't stereotype me for you have no incline who i am.

For which good work do you stone me?
---paul on 8/5/11


OK OK, how much do you want for the bridge, and are you also going to add the fish in the water in the deal?
---francis on 8/5/11

You truly have made a grave error.
Your judgments are false, unfounded and recorded above.

Paul
---paul on 8/6/11


I Pastor a non-denominational church with no ties to anything but the Bible and accountable only to God Himself.
---paul on 8/4/11
OK OK, how much do you want for the bridge, and are you also going to add the fish in the water in the deal?
---francis on 8/5/11


I Pastor a non-denominational church with no ties to anything but the Bible and accountable only to God Himself.
---paul on 8/4/11

It appears i solidified your reasons too quickly for being non denom...since reading your answerman love post.

Making $$$$ in the eccumenical market appears to be the reason you are non denom. Books, music,preaching etc. Some sheep posting problems are begging for you here and the advertising is free. Better bottom line.
Jeremiah 23:2
Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people, Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.
---Trav on 8/5/11




Weakness of pastors today appears in their loyalty to cemetary/seminary teachers rather than GOD.
---Trav on 8/4/11

I Pastor a non-denominational church with no ties to anything but the Bible and accountable only to God Himself.

Paul
---paul on 8/4/11

May GOD bless your search and you finding.
You also solidify the context for being non denom.
You chose not to be affliated with denoms reasoning that total truth is not of one man or one denom.
It is where it is verified in scripture by multiple witnesses of GOD.
---Trav on 8/5/11


Or blame GOD before GOD...when actual men script witnesses of GOD don't line up for you."---Trav

Do you now how incomprehensible this is?
---atheist on 8/4/11

Well duh. Spent 40 years in incomprehension. But, you did have to remind me. ha.

Here's the thing atheist. i don't trust any man...especially claiming to be of GOD. They must have proof for what they tout in doctrine or belief.

Above...you may stand before GOD.
If I've pointed out to you and I have that there are minimum two witnesses of GOD, in form of prophets,apostles or just witnesses in scripture.
Then it is up to you to verify. Blame GOD if you don't believe his witnesses.
Blame me for not pointing,searching with you if I don't.
---Trav on 8/5/11


It's like being a Parent. If you Love and care about your kids. It's the hardest job in the world.
If you don't care, then its the easiest job in the world.

It's the same with the Pastor and his flock.
---John on 8/4/11



You should be careful what you are defending perhaps.
---Trav on 8/4/11


Trav
I only defend or stand for the truth my friend, and Im not bias to the source.
The truth is the truth no matter who utters it.


Weakness of pastors today appears in their loyalty to cemetary/seminary teachers rather than GOD.
---Trav on 8/4/11

I Pastor a non-denominational church with no ties to anything but the Bible and accountable only to God Himself.

Paul
---paul on 8/4/11


"Or blame GOD before GOD...when actual men script witnesses of GOD don't line up for you."---Trav


Do you now how incomprehensible this is?
---atheist on 8/4/11


Trav,
Fine. So if I am lead down the false path, it is my fault because I didn't read the Bible enough to find out I was misled, and to realize my self that I should go down the right path.

Do you know how stupid this sounds?
---atheist on 8/3/11

Exactly. Well,no need calling your post stupid.

Read your post again. You will/are not led anywhere. I won't be either for that matter.
Point to a truth/untruth....i will look, verify/adopt if proven or discard. Cost me nothing to prove right or wrong except time.

But, whose fault do you want it to be? Mine? jimmy swaggeraround? Let it be your own.
Or blame GOD before GOD...when actual men script witnesses of GOD don't line up for you.
---Trav on 8/4/11


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By the authority God gave the Orthodox Church, the only one Jesus founded.

---Cluny on 8/3/11

Don't forget about the West.

During the first eight centuries of the Church's history the Roman see was noted for the purity of its faith, other Patriarchates wavered during the great doctrinal disputes, but Rome for the most part stood firm. When hard pressed in the struggle against heretics, people felt that they could turn with confidence to the Pope. It was above all to Rome that everyone appealed to guidance in the early centuries of the Church. (pg. 28)

:references are from the book "The Orthodox Church" by Timothy Ware
---Ruben on 8/4/11


I see advice on here often or remarks that are anti-pastor.

If I were you I would be careful for these are Gods chosen vessels in most cases to oversee his churches..
---paul on 8/3/11

To be sure....there are some called.
You should be careful what you are defending perhaps.

The position, like that of a teacher comes under a different judgement.

Weakness of pastors today appears in their loyalty to cemetary/seminary teachers rather than GOD. They flee at the first politically incorrect (Wolf)situation that confronts them.
They do not know their scripture, or the witnesses for what they are even preaching. John 10:13
The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
---Trav on 8/4/11


Trav,

Fine. So if I am lead down the false path, it is my fault because I didn't read the Bible enough to find out I was misled, and to realize my self that I should go down the right path.

Do you know how stupid this sounds?
---atheist on 8/3/11


The preaching is the easy part.
---trey on 8/3/11

No my friend it is not, not if done properly.

It involves years of study which are ongoing for a lifetime.

Seeking God for the message countless hours through the weak of Wordstudy,
compilation, whether topical or expository ,
illustrative helps,sermon preparation,outlines, and meditation.

It is very much worth it but by no means easy.

I am not a Pastor that regurgitates three years worth of study over a thirty year career.

The people of God deserve better than that.

You should constantly be growing and challenging your congregants if not in six months you will have taught then all you know and a stalemate ensues.

Paul
---paul on 8/3/11


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BTW--most pastors, including Orthodox ones, have to have a full-time or part-time secular job to support their families.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/3/11


pastors are ON CALL?

my experience is 1 hour counseling & 1 book to read. then GOOD LUCK.
or negative unproductive verses were shove on my face.
---mike on 8/3/11

Again i hate to hear of your isolated incident here.

But pastors all around the World with Godly counsel and God given wisdom have helped countless scores of people to receive healing in a wide array of areas.

I see advice on here often or remarks that are anti-pastor.

If I were you I would be careful for these are Gods chosen vessels in most cases to oversee his churches..
---paul on 8/3/11


A true pastor's work is difficult but rewarding. The preaching is the easy part. The tough stuff is dealing with problems of the members after you've worked an 8 to 12 hour day, having to leave the house at midnight to console someone who has lost a loved one, cutting your vacation short to preach a funeral, dealing with a member that's mad over something said at church, explaining to your kids why you couldn't be at their game because a member was injured in a car wreck, trying to study while the wife and kids play a noisy game in the living room, and the list goes on. In the end, if a man is not called by God, he won't last. If he is called then it's all worth it!
---trey on 8/3/11


(Unless god give get out of Hell for free to those following bad advice.)

It seems contradictory to what I thought ...
---atheist on 8/2/11

You cannot be judged for what you were not told.
You can be judged for being exposed to contradiction, on scripture and not researching yourself.
You obviously can read.

You now again have been told GOD will supply two witnesses for every seeming contradiction of men or men's doctrines.
You may have no excuse.....in having this one fact pointed out to you.
Your fear of researching yourself what you condemn is not an excuse. Any atheist apostle should know the Bible
his enemy of logic.
John 5:31
If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true.
---Trav on 8/3/11


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\\By who's God given authority does any book become included in the bible as "scripture"? and when was this authority given?????
Is it really all assumed???\\

By the authority God gave the Orthodox Church, the only one Jesus founded.

This was the earthly body God worked through to let us know which books belonged in the Bible. You didn't think it was Baptists, Methodists, Pentecostals, or YOU, do you?

It's been said here frequently.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/3/11


People only come to You when times are difficult.
when times of difficulty pass they are nowhere to be seen...
---kevin5443 on 8/3/11


pastors are ON CALL?

my experience is 1 hour counseling & 1 book to read. then GOOD LUCK.
or negative unproductive verses were shove on my face.
---mike on 8/3/11


I have NEVER heard a pastor ADMIT they are wrong when THEIR teaching failed.
---mike on 8/2/11

i know one that has, and does admit a mistake make in teaching or understanding. These rare as Turtle Teeth.

You are absolutely correct that scripture answers all. Multiple scriptures regarding a contention on the same subject establishes it in stone.
When i first started researching "my" questions, went to many preacher/pastor/teacher claiming to be.
Scripture made them furious when they could not answer....giving me a surprise and a lesson verifying other scripture....concerning them.
John 10:13
The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.
---Trav on 8/3/11


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Elder:"God always reveals Himself to the lost in one way or another."

Since he has not, I can only assume that he is not there.
---atheist on 7/29/11

Well, there are other logical possibility's atheist.
1. Elder is correct. GOD will reveal at ur "end" if you are "lost".
2. You may not be called by our GOD. You cannot come if you are not. GOD draws a man to himself. Not man drawing to GOD.
3. You may have been drawn here by GOD. For his own purpose. You make it a lesson for many in defending what we know.

Because a blind man/atheist can't see doesn't mean there are not things to see.
Some blind, desire to see...others denying the possibility do not.
---Trav on 8/3/11


Cluny, Each book stands or fails on it's own merits!
Answer me this then, (since you don't answer previous Qs)
By who's God given authority does any book become included in the bible as "scripture"? and when was this authority given?????
Is it really all assumed???
---1st_cliff on 8/3/11


Mark_V.:

You know that and I know that, but not everybody does.

When one discusses things and the other person has a different set of assumptions than you do, it is important to understand just WHAT his assumptions are, and why. (And, in a situation when you believe the other persons's assumptions are in error, it is important to expose such error, which is done most easily by having the other person state his position in a way that is concise, and easy to refute - especially easy if such a position is self-contradictory).
---StrongAxe on 8/3/11


Mike,

So how do two pastors, who don't agree, reconcile their differences?

I see so many opinions about what the word of god is according to who and such,---with many answers determining the Hellbound area of afterlife, wouldn't it require an extraordinary ego and belief that you had the right answers, to tell anyone how they should live and believe? (Unless god give get out of Hell for free to those following bad advice.)

I don't see any space for humility in this. It seems contradictory to what I thought the teachings of Jesus were supposed to be about.
---atheist on 8/2/11


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\\Mark simply wrote mostly Peter's preaching (like a scribe)\\

Where in the Bible--especially in Matthew or John, since these are the only two Gospels you really trust--actually say this, 1stCliff?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/2/11


Cluny, Feel the heat?? Cut and run when you can't answer my question,huh!
Matthew,John, Peter, James etc..all walked and talked with Jesus the Son of God,for 3 1/2 years, He told them nothing ??? Come on Cluny you can't get any better eye witness than that!
Strong Axe, Jesus cited Genesis, if he believed it , so do I!
Pre-flood all information was "oral"!
---1st_cliff on 8/2/11


Strongaxe, the very first order of business when discussing Scripture between two people is to set the stage on equal grounds. Both have to believe that the Word of God is inspired by God. If one does not believe it is inspired by God, then there can be no godly discussion. Believing only certain parts, makes man the determinator as to what Truth is, and what isn't. He could make any part truth and the rest not truth. The orthodox view of inspiration is that God worked through the personalities of the biblical writers in such a way that, without suspending their personal styles of expression or freedom, what they produced was literally "God breathed" ( 2 Tim. 3:16).
---Mark_V. on 8/2/11


atheist
i had that experience with a pastor. in order to save face they 'wash their hands' by saying 'don't judge me' 'you lack faith' 'you did not obey' you sinned.
I have NEVER heard a pastor ADMIT they are wrong when THEIR teaching failed. of course quoting from the bible will verify that you will not make a mistake.
common sense has been replaced with religion.
---mike on 8/2/11


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i was watching frederick price & he revealed that he has 6 checking accounts & his wife has a mercedes benz
---mike on 8/2/11


Mike,

Yes. That is exactly the question.

How many people will end up in Hell, because they thought they were following right path, but in truth their guide was completely wrong.

Any answers to this question out there?
---atheist on 8/2/11


atheist
But does god really punish those who make the wrong choices because they were given the wrong information.

so are the people who died in waco tx & jonestown will be forever damned bec. they OBEYED what they were told to do?
---mike on 8/2/11


1st_cliff:

The whole book of Genesis is believed to have been written by Moses, who wasn't born until after it - meaning he couldn't have been an eyewitness to any of it. Do you reject all of it on that basis too, since it can't have been an eyewitness account?

Remember that every Bible we have to day is a copy of a translation of a copy of original manuscripts, often many times removed. But we still accept them. In earlier days, transmission of history was done much more by oral tradition than writte ntradition. Luke wrote his gospel based on the testimony of eyewitnesses. Do you accept written tradition but reject oral tradition?
---StrongAxe on 8/2/11


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\\I don't fully accept Luke's gospel because he writes things from hearsay!uncorroborated!\\

And just how do you think Matthew knew about the Nativity of Christ or Adoration of the Magi? You don't actually think that he was an eyewitness to these events, do you?

But what you're saying REALLY means is that you pick and choose what parts of the NT you accept as authentic. So there's no point in continuing this discussion if you're going to put your liberal opinions over 2000 years of Christian consensus.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/2/11


Cluny, You continually ask questions without answering mine..Why?
Mark simply wrote mostly Peter's preaching (like a scribe)
I don't fully accept Luke's gospel because he writes things from hearsay!uncorroborated!
As for the gospel of Thomas and others, they were accepted or rejected by "committee" or consensus,not divine intervention!
OK..fixed church and fixed Pastors??
---1st_cliff on 8/1/11


\\Cluny, Matthew and John were "eye witnesses"\\

But Luke and possibly Mark were not. Why do you accept them?

And there are Gospels at least attributed to the Apostles, such as the Gospel of Thomas, which the Church did NOT accept.

Why?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/1/11


Cluny, Matthew and John were "eye witnesses"
Now, fixed church and fixed Pastor??? established by Christ!
---1st_cliff on 7/31/11


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\\By who's authority are his words "scripture?" (answer please)
---1st_cliff on 7/30/11\\

Let m e answer your question with another question. By what authority do you accept the Four Canonical Gospels?

What makes THEM scripture, and not the rest of the NT as received?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/30/11


Jesus said to Peter, "tend My sheep", in John 21:16, and "feed My sheep", in John 21:17. So, Jesus did tell Peter to pastor His sheep. But feeding and force-feeding can be very different! If you force-feed, this can make things hard. And Peter told leaders, "Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly, nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:2-3) So, pastoring needs to be by example and not by forcing and controlling which can get us into stress etc. Example in the sight of God brings God's results (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/30/11


1stcliff

Eph 4:11 And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers,
12 for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ,

I as well don't see all people called to be Pastors, we all have works of a Pastor to perform but all are not called into the office of a Pastor.

Paul
---paul on 7/30/11


Cluny, Book chapter and verse,please, where Jesus instituted a "fixed church and fixed Pastor"!
BTW Paul is neither the Paraclete nor the anointed spokesman of God! (except by self appointment)
By who's authority are his words "scripture?" (answer please)
---1st_cliff on 7/30/11


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\\Cluny, **Read where St.Paul said...**
Isn't that exactly what i wrote?\\

Nope. Not at all. You said that EVERYBODY is a pastor. The Bible says that only SOME are called to be pastors.

Who's right? You or the Bible?

\\Jesus sent them out two-by-two , you imagine that they were double Pastors???\\

And you think a traveling preaching mission is the same thing as being fixed pastor of a fixed church?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/30/11


Cluny, **Read where St.Paul said...**
Isn't that exactly what i wrote? Paul ,not Christ instituted the Clergy-Laity system.
Jesus sent them out two-by-two , you imagine that they were double Pastors???
"Go therefore..(Mat.28) was a "general call" to everyone!
Mat.16.24 "Take up your cross and follow me"
Every one has the ability to "witness" not just a chosen few!
Proselytizing =all Christians responsibility,not hiring someone else to do the "Job"
---1st_cliff on 7/30/11


Witnessing which all Christians are supposed to do is not the same as pastoring by a long shot.
---shirley on 7/30/11


Atheist, the spell check misses wrong words if they are spelled right. Another winner can be "fiend" instead of "friend" (c:

I would say that one basic thing is if the pastor keeps pushing to keep his and his church's image going, but does not be submissive to Jesus in Jesus Christ's "rest for your souls." (in Matthew 11:29) I'd say one needs to in prayer make sure one is with God, first, before doing things, then keep sensing and feeling to make sure.
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/30/11


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Atheist

Sorry I though you were being facetious, this may seem a bit stupid to you but are you truly an atheist and if so what keeps you from believing God for salvation?

And those attributes would simply be Christian ethics.
---paul on 7/29/11


Paul,

Actually I did not see that as a typo. On one hand I thought it odd, on the other it does seem you all get quite nasty to each other on some of these blogs.

Sorry.
---atheist on 7/29/11


Atheist

I apparently transposed certain to make it cretin, but I'm sure you knew that. So what else can I do for you?

Paul
---paul on 7/29/11


\\1st of all EVERY Christian is suppose to "pastor" not someone singled out and paid a salary!
---1st_cliff on 7/29/11\\

Read where St. Paul said that not all members of the body have the same function.

Consider also where he said that SOME--not all--were called to be pastors.

Glory to Jesus Christ.
---Cluny on 7/29/11


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"cretin Pastoral attributes"---Paul

Could you list a few of these please?
---atheist on 7/29/11


In 1934 my daddy pastored Monterey Tennessee Baptist Church. One Sunday morning
Mother and I, age 5, were home in the parsonage next door. I misbehaved and ran to the church stage and grabbed Daddy's legs. My aunt was there and came and got me so he could preach on. Compared to that, I think Daddy had easy pastoring! Glad he and the members had a sense of humor!
---Geraldine on 7/29/11


1st of all EVERY Christian is suppose to "pastor" not someone singled out and paid a salary!
---1st_cliff on 7/29/11

So all have the call of a Pastor
in the body, or are you saying cretin Pastoral attributes should be possessed by all Christians.

I've never heard that said before.


Paul
---paul on 7/29/11


Elder:"God always reveals Himself to the lost in one way or another."

Well then, it seems clear that you really don't need pastors, the Bible, or a blog such as this. God should handle it all by himself, right?

And by your logic then Elder, nothing you or anyone else has said, hasn't said, or will say to me should matter, god will reach out to me himself and make himself clear.

Since he has not, I can only assume that he is not there.
---atheist on 7/29/11


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It is a difficult job because you are serving people, and when has people ever been satisfied?
---Francis on 7/29/11


1st of all EVERY Christian is suppose to "pastor" not someone singled out and paid a salary!
Paul, not Christ instituted the "church" system, with Bishops, Elders,Deacons etc and the Lay people. which has become the "hodge-podge" church (denominational)array now! The "I talk you listen" Clergy-layman caste!
The glib-tongued charismatic "Pastor" will have the biggest and wealthiest congregation (televangelists for example)
Spreading the Gospel has become an occupation like any other salaried "job"!
---1st_cliff on 7/29/11


A pastor's job is never ending.The person is like a doctor to the soul.On call at all hours and has to try and make everyone happy.A almost impossible job.You HAVE to be called to do it.
---shirley on 7/29/11


2Ti 4:1 I charge you therefore before God and the Lord Jesus Christ, who will judge the living and the dead at His appearing and His kingdom:
2 Preach the word! Be ready in season and out of season. Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching.


This charge alone is enough to keep a Pastor busy not to mention all the other dynamics involved in Pastoring Gods way.
---paul on 7/29/11


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What makes a Pastor's job difficult
1) The pastor or his congregation thinks he should be "Anointed Man" (Superhero voice) and do everything. Pastor should preach and cast vision and let staff and volunteers worry about tasks. As far as counciling goes seek professional christian counciling not free pastor counciling.
2) Satan - if you are working for God and winning Satan will not let you be at peace. Satan will always attack those who are fighting with God. Satan has attacked my Pastor's daughter with nightmares and has had death threats from church people
The average pastor survives about 8 to 10 years in ministry before leaving church service.
---Scott1 on 7/29/11


"But does god really punish those who make the wrong choices because they were given the wrong information?"
atheist
God always reveals Himself to the lost in one way or another. Those who teach error shall stand in judgement for that. Those who reject truth will stand in judgement for that. Like you, you have received enough truth in the mist of the foolishness to make a wise choice. You will answer for your choice.
The question will be, "What did you do with the sin sacrifice I provided?"
---Elder on 7/29/11



Leslie

There are over 7 billion Churches in the world with at least 1 pastor in each church. Id be very curious to know what percentage of those Pastors that you know personally which allows you to make a statement that MOST Pastors dont Pastors Gods way.

More accurately said is that most Pastors you know, which probably isnt 1 percent of Pastors in you local area.


But being a Pastor I know a lot of Pastors and I assure you that your notion that most are ungodly is way off the mark, Thank God.

I also assure you that doing it Gods way is a great deal of hard work, most people have no clue what the Pastor goes through to Pastor effectively.
---paul on 7/29/11


There are some things that I was taught from a man who learned from the old time preachers that I imagine would make many change their mind about being a preacher.
A man truly called of God should be willing to build his own church without any outside help.
He should be willing to be the janitor, electrician, carpenter, secretary, mason and lawn / parking lot attendant before even starting to preach the rightly divided word of truth.
If he is serious enough about shepherding a flock he should be serious enough to do everything and know each lamb and sheep by name.
---frank on 7/29/11


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In addition to all of the answers given up till now, another reason the pastor's job is difficult is because if a pastor is preaching the Word faithfully, he will be under tremendous spiritual attack from the devil. Satan does not want God's Word to be preached, so he will attack the pastor and his family in attempts to make the pastor ineffective.

I appreciate my pastor's honesty and candor about his life and its challenges. It reminds me to be more diligent in praying for him and his family.
---Trish9863 on 7/28/11


\\ Instead they do NOT preach/teach the Bible, exalt themselves as God, and come up with worldly wackiness that has NOTHING to do with God or the Bible.\\

Leslie, of course, has studied a statistically valid representative sample of all pastors, and is thus qualified to make such a statement.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/28/11


That is a question I never considered...

Having read posts here for over a year, it is clear that among other things there does not seem to be a consensus on much of anything, such as: What do you do to go to Heaven and avoid Hell?---much less questions of daily morality.

But the consequences for members of a pastor's "flock" of if he gives the wrong advice could be literally an eternity of Heavenly bliss, or unending and constant suffering.

This must put unimaginable stress on pastors.

But does god really punish those who make the wrong choices because they were given the wrong information?
---atheist on 7/28/11


A pastor's work calls for such a variety of skills..orator, researcher, executive, psychologist, teacher. It's almost impossible for one person to be equally gifted in all areas.
On top of this, he's expected to be an example of spiritual sensitivity and
maturity. His mistakes will almost always be noticed and commented upon or criticized. OR he will be idolized to the point that peoples faith may falter if he makes a misstep.

Who would want such a job?
The only one who could do it well, would be one whose every step is led by God...or one who is so hardened that he does not care about the severe judgment his possible negligence will earn him in eternity.
---Donna66 on 7/28/11


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It's tough for my pastor. He is in charge of so many ministries, including but not limited to, our church's newspaper, day to day functions of the church office, responsibility for the flock, etc, etc! I couldn't handle his job lol!
---Mary on 7/28/11


Here are two ways that come to mind:

1. Being on call 24 hours a day, 7 day a week. Perpetually.

2. Having as many bosses as there are members of the congregation. Many of them are people like you asking how his work is so difficult.

And if he's worth his salt, there is the the constant tension and anxiety that he just might cause one of the little ones of his flock to stumble because he is, at bottom, merely a human being.

I'm sure you can think of others if you set your mind to it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/28/11


MOST Pastors work is difficult because they are NOT being the type of Pastor the Bible says to be (how to be a Pastor). Instead they do NOT preach/teach the Bible, exalt themselves as God, and come up with worldly wackiness that has NOTHING to do with God or the Bible. Therefore their work of creating FALSE converts and ministering to WOLVES is very hard and tireing. This is a rebuke to MOST Pastors, that they MUST do it God's way in order to lighten the load, or keep up "business as usual" and continue to struggle.
---Leslie on 7/28/11


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