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Cluny mutations are almost always deleterious or fatal and you say God willingly visits them upon his creatures?

What a monstrous God you portray!

Mutations not only have to be beneficial, but they must add new biological information, (specified complexity), to produce new coordinated structures and systems, as microbes-to-man evolution obviously requires.

However, practically all beneficial mutations observed have been losses of specified complexity, with only a few disputable examples of mutations increasing information ever found (e.g. bacteria that digest nylon, citrate or xylitol).
---Warwick on 8/8/11


StrongAxe, God's record of history begins "In the Beginning God created from nothing..." There cannot be anything before the beginning, especially as God created from nothing. Therefore the geological record must fit within Scripture.

My question to you is: Where do you believe the geological record fits within Scripture? A direct answer would be nice.
---Warwick on 8/8/11


jerry, I'm going to put down a syllogism I hope you can follow:

1. Darwin believed that mutations were random--strictly chance.

2. I do not believe that mutations are random, but God is behind them.

3. Ergo, I'm not a Darwinist.

Do you understand this now?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/8/11


jerry6593:

Jesus may have mentioned the flood in passing, but he didn't teach any specific details about it.
---StrongAxe on 8/8/11

There was no Global Flood. If there was there would be one thick layer of sediment reflecting this period. There is none. There are all kinds of layers. Ten main layer groups.
Their doctrine is a false doctrine.
There are several civilizations that pass through the flood period.
Noah did make it, Noahs relatives didn't.
Talk about water pressure and they don't have an answer. Water pressure would have killed "all" seed, insects,trees, shrubs etc. Fresh water killing oceanic fish etc.
They choke truth rather than align.
---Trav on 8/8/11


jerry6593:

I am not a geologist, so I cannot speak with great precision on these matters (but then again, I suspect that you aren't either).

Jesus may have mentioned the flood in passing, but he didn't teach any specific details about it.


Warwick:

I didn't say anything about the geological record fitting into scriptures. What I DID say was that jerry6593 was being inconsistent in believing in one part of the geographical record and using it to bolster his position, but then dismissing it whenever it disagreed with his position. Either he believes in it or he doesn't. He can't do both.
---StrongAxe on 8/8/11




What makes sense about evolution?

exactly non sense... all scientist do is report on what already exists but is new to them. Ask them how the sweetness gets into the orange OR how the bitterness gets into the lemon and they a dumb founded.

yet it all happened in a big bang the one that they tried but failed to replicate spending enormous amount of money, no wonder there is a recession lol

moreover everything evolved but has the sense to stop evolving???? jokers an intelligent spiritual being is out of the question ha ha
---Carla on 8/8/11


This makes God an ogre.

How can Peter say that God is not willing that any should perish 2 Peter 3:9 ---Warwick on 8/7/11


Christian as you seem to know. Others may not. Witnessing Scriptures tells who is spoken of here.

"Promise". "Usward". Not willing that any should perish of these promised or them.
As usual the prophets tell who was promised, what they were promised. Tells who was under the Ten Commandments ,who broke them and who was put away.

2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness, but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
---Trav on 8/8/11


Axey: "...geological record shows what appears to be gradual deposit of sediments over millions of years."

You could not be more completely wrong!

Are you a Christian - a follower of Jesus? Did you know that Jesus believed in the universal flood of Noah?

Have YOU done any scientific investigation on fossil layer depositions? Explain the missing precursors in the PreCambrian layer. Explain the existence of marine fossils on the highest mountains. Explain the large unconformities, the polystrate trees, the lack of meteorites, and the large-to-small gravel sorting in each layer if you can. Show where large beds of fossils are being formed today.

Then explain why Jesus didn't know what He was talking about.
---jerry6593 on 8/8/11


StrongAxe, where does the "geological record" fit into Scripture?
---Warwick on 8/7/11


\\Praise God for the truth Jerry, Keep seeking...\\

2 Timothy 3:7
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/7/11




jerry6593:

You said: The geologic record bears out Noah's flood and thus disproves Evolution.

Yet most of the geological record shows what appears to be gradual deposit of sediments over millions of years. Why do you accept the geological record in this one point when it agrees with you, yet reject its implications when it does not? An appeal to authority only makes sense when that authority has, on its own, some indepentent authority and legitimacy. When an authority's legitimacy is based solely on whether it agrees with you or not, it's no authority at all.
---StrongAxe on 8/7/11


Jerry: 'What makes sense about evolution?'

Actually, if you want proper 'evolution' everything does make sense - it just didn't happen with animals!

The case of evolution (in the REAL meaning of the word) is simple: if something works, it continues, of it doesn't work, it is destroyed

That has been seen since we started making things

But the idea that animals and people came to be that way is silly
---Peter on 8/7/11


Christian don't be evasive. What you are saying is that God has chosen who will be saved. Therefore many will be born, who were lost without any hope of salvation, before they were born. They truly had no chance.

This makes God an ogre.

However if you said God knows ahead who will be saved then that is a very different thing. And I would agree with this.

How can Peter say that God is not willing that any should perish 2 Peter 3:9 if the reality is that He choses who will perish?
---Warwick on 8/7/11


Paul: Thanks. Cluny is here only to (by his own admission) waste words. He also spreads lies about other denominations, while refusing to comply with Peter's admonition:

1Pe 3:15 But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts: and BE READY ALWAYS TO GIVE AN ANSWER to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:

I have repeatedly asked him and others to explain their adherence to the unorthodox doctrine of Evolution, but you see the silly answers I get. These folk honestly believe that Jesus evolved from lower life forms, and that He was purposely deceptive about His 6-day creation and Noah's flood.
---jerry6593 on 8/6/11


"...you believe God "planned man's fall? and satan's rebellion." andy

The correct word is not "planned" but "purposed". Let me help you with Scriptural backing.

When Israel went back into slavery in Babylon, God declared: "The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass, and as I have purposed, so shall it stand" Isaiah 14:24

For God to show mercy to the sinner, He declared: "For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all." Romans 11:32

About Satan: "The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil." Proverbs 16:4
---christan on 8/6/11


Cluny

I could not sign off without saying thanks for our exchanges.

They were not always pleasant but I enjoyed them none the less.

Good Luck friend, may the lord bless you and yours until His appearing.

God Bless, Paul
---paul on 8/6/11


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\\Praise God for the truth Jerry, Keep seeking and revealing it and perhaps others will see it one day as well.\\

paul, are you aware that the SDA teaches that Jesus is the Archangel Michael incarnate, not God Incarnate? I've read it for myself in their own literature.

And that James White and early SDA leaders were out and out Arians?

Therefore, how can jerry be revealing the truth if his church doesn't even believe in the REAL Jesus to start with?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/6/11


I have seen a tremendous DVD on the subject of evolution - "The Case for a Creator" by Lee Strobel. He was an atheist who researched the subject when his wife converted to Christianity. He wrote at least two more books - "The Case for Christ" and "The Case for Faith". He is a journalist so he wanted to find scientific proof and he succeeded. It's worth watching the DVD or reading the book.
---Terri on 8/6/11


Glory to the REAL Jesus Christ - the one that believed in a 6-day Creation and Noah's universal flood!
---jerry6593 on 8/6/11

Praise God for the truth Jerry, Keep seeking and revealing it and perhaps others will see it one day as well.

Paul
---paul on 8/6/11


\\Cluny: See there, you wasted all those words and 2 of the 75 post\\

Good! That's the whole idea.

BTW, jerry, the SDA does NOT believe in the REAL Jesus Christ.

And good for you christan, that you have actually READ some Erasmus.

As I've said, I've noticed that too many people here tend to criticize writers they have not actually read.

But contrary to what you have said, I have no opinion of Erasmus whatsoever.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/6/11


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No, I do not belief in the doctrine of the man's freewill, it exist only in the mind of the fallen man.

in other words Tristan, you believe God "planned man's fall? and satan's rebellion.

freewil is a fact(not doctrine) however whatever we choose, theres only two options
Christ's kingdom, or satan's slavery. i admit our "freedom of choise is limited" but it is there.
---andy3996 on 8/6/11


Cluny, you are a wonderful testimony one who love to entrap. Similar to those of the Pharisees in the Scripture. You do not say what you should say but rather work your way in trying and entrap people with your merry-go-round questions. I'm sure you know what you are doing and saying, so spare others of your hypocrisy.

I say what I want to say that Erasmus is a compromiser and I do not need to justify to you any further as though as I am being questioned before the courts of the Orthodox High Priests. I have read enough of his diatribes to come to that conclusion and you cannot change my opinion, like I cannot change yours.
---christan on 8/6/11


"However are you saying God selects those who will be saved? Doesn't this mean many people are born who will never be given the chance to be saved?" Warwick

Chance? The election of God's people is never by chance. It has been predestined as taught by Paul in Romans 8 & 9. So, your problem is with Paul not with me. And if you have a problem with Paul, you have a problem with God. God declared this, not Paul nor I.

2 Peter 3:9 refers to God's elect which God has brought forth into the world and none will be snatched from His hands or lost. Because there will come a time, God's time when all of His elect are gathered and the world will be destroyed.
---christan on 8/6/11


Cluny: See there, you wasted all those words and 2 of the 75 posts and still never named a single thing that you know to be true about Evolution.

"BTW, jerry just what does the Flood have to do with evolution?"

Everything! The foundation of Evolution is the long age gradualism of lyellian uniformitarianism geology - the laying down of the fossil layers over millenia. Noah's flood was a near instantaneous event by comparison. The geologic record bears out Noah's flood and thus disproves Evolution.

Glory to the REAL Jesus Christ - the one that believed in a 6-day Creation and Noah's universal flood!
---jerry6593 on 8/6/11


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BTW, jerry just what does the Flood have to do with evolution?

Can you explain how you go by logic from one to the other?

And then you dare to complain that talking about Erasmus takes up your precious 75 post limit!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/5/11


Wrong, jerry. You actually didn't have to post this all to start with, and unless someone comes into your house and holds a gun to your head, you never will have to post it again for the rest of your life.

You post this because you WANT to.

Whether the Flood were a single world wide event, or there were several floods in different places at the same time, the effect was the same. It certainly caused the noted genetic bottle neck in Homo sapiens.

There are more evolutionary theories besides Darwin's, though this seems to escape you.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/5/11


Cluny: Do you believe in the universal Noaic flood c4500 years ago or not?

Can you name one single thing about evolution that you know is true?

Glory to the REAL Jesus Christ - not to Charles Darwin.
---jerry6593 on 8/5/11


To my knowledge, Erasmus had no opinion on Evolution, so filling up the 75-post limit with him just means I'll have to post this same question again, and again, and again.....

It is my understanding that Erasmus was a great guy, bringing us the "Textus Receptus" Greek text (and hence the KJV), and correcting many of the errors in the Latin Vulgate.
---jerry6593 on 8/5/11


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//Christian You seem to contradict yourself, as others have said.//

Over the years, I have realized that when someone tells me that Christ of the Bible died for the whole of mankind, it is in contrary of what Christ Himself declares. ---christan on 8/4/11

Contradiction is found of those unlike yourself who only use specific verses. Climbing in another way it is called.
I do not find you contradictary, but a searcher of truth. Not denom,unsupported theory's.

The one who negates you has never used a Prophet to support any of his contradictions. For good reason. There are none that do.
John 17:9
I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine.
---Trav on 8/5/11


\\ am sure you are well aware of his works or you would never have come in his defense when I called him a compromiser.\\

It's one thing to be aware of the works of Erasmus, and it's another to have read them.

It's one thing to defend Erasmus, and to ask you what you have actually read of his. (I've noticed that people on these blogs frequently condemn things of which they know nothing.)

Apparently, these distinctions escape you.

Show me where I ever defended him or his opinions. Be specific.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/4/11


\\For me to come to the conclusion that Erasmus is a compromiser, it is obvious that I have read his diatribes.\\

Good. What all of his writings have you read? And in which langauges, as he wrote a lot in Latin.

And how specifically did he compromise the Gospel? He published the best printed editions of the Gospels in both Greek and Latin for the time that had influence on both the Reformation and Counterreformation.

As I said, I've never read him.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/4/11


Christian I sometimes find you difficult to understand. You seem to contradict yourself, as others have said.

As you have clearly explained your position I would agree with you about witnessing for numbers. Our Job is to preach the Good News to the whole world. However we do not know who will accept God's gift of Salvation, but He does.

However are you saying God selects those who will be saved? Doesn't this mean many people are born who will never be given the chance to be saved? If this is what you are saying how does that line up with 2 Peter 3:9 "The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance."
---Warwick on 8/4/11


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There are changes that can occur within the Genome of all species, but not beyond that.

Now man has changed the rules. He is therefore commiting abominations against G-ds creation.
---John on 8/4/11


Cluny, obviously you do not read between the lines. For me to come to the conclusion that Erasmus is a compromiser, it is obvious that I have read his diatribes. His diatribes comes across as one who compromises the Word of God with their own understanding. And yes, it's my own opinion - or am I not supposed to have one.

You claim you have never read any of his diatribes or teachings which I find hard to believe. I am sure you are well aware of his works or you would never have come in his defense when I called him a compromiser.
---christan on 8/4/11


Warwick, when I said "I do not witness or testify for numbers", you should read carefully what I wrote. I said when I witness, it is not "for numbers" which means that I am convicted that God is not saving everyone of mankind but only His people/sheep. But that does not mean I do not continue to witness to unbelievers. On the contrary, I do but only God knows the number He will call.

Over the years, I have realized that when someone tells me that Christ of the Bible died for the whole of mankind, it is in contrary of what Christ Himself declares. And though we both know the name of Christ - the very person is not the same. Hope I come across clear to you about the "bottom-line"
---christan on 8/4/11


Cluny: Regarding your 5000 year-old cats:

Do you believe in the universal Noaic flood c4500 years ago or not?

Can you name one single thing about evolution that you know is true?
---jerry6593 on 8/4/11


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Christian maybe I have misunderstood you. However you wrote "...I am totally convicted that God has already chosen to save only those whom He love, I do not witness or testify for numbers.

What does this mean? You don't witness or testify for munbers????


And while you are at it please explain what "Bottom-line, some may think we have the same Jesus of the bible, far be from it" means?
---Warwick on 8/3/11


\\Cluny, reading all of the books of Erasmus does not equate to the Truth of the Gospel.\\

cristian, I will repeat my question:

Have you actually read any works by Erasmus that give any weight to your evaluation of him as a "compromiser of the Gospel"?

It's a simple question that needs only a yes or no.

RSVP (BTW--I've never read anything by Erasmus, but unlike you, I've not made any evaluations of him personally, pro or con, and have no opinion about him, so you cannot say I'm his follower.)

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/3/11


"I am astounded anyone can read Scripture and conclude they have no need to spread the Good News!" Warwick

Warwick, please tell everyone here where in my replies did I ever mentioned that there was "no need to spread the Good News"? Where? Or did you just simply concluded that in your own mind? And if that was the case, you are clearly in breach of bearing false witness.

In this particular blog, I was pointing out about "compromising" the Word of God with lies. So, please get your facts right before you shoot your own feet and bleed to death.
---christan on 8/3/11


Cluny, reading all of the books of Erasmus does not equate to the Truth of the Gospel. It is obvious you are of the persuasion of Erasmus teachings and writings. For that I will not even begin to start a debate with you with regards to his writings. He is a compromiser of the Scripture as far as I am concern. And yes, that's my personal opinion. Just like it's your personal opinion that Erasmus is otherwise. Agree to disagree.

And as the Lord has poured out His Spirit ONLY to His people, they will come to know the fruits of the leaven and unleavened bread. So, not everyone who calls themselves a Christian is a Christian. John has admonish us to "test the spirit".
---christan on 8/3/11


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"do you or don't you preach the gospel, do you believe in freewill or choice, your blogs are confusing and contrary to eachother" andy 3996

Andy, you don't seem to realize what is "freewill or choice", the meaning that is. To answer your profound statement:

Yes, I witness and testify the Gospel according to the Scriptures.

Yes, I believe that only one person has the freewill to do as He please, God Almighty.

No, I do not belief in the doctrine of the man's freewill, it exist only in the mind of the fallen man.

Confusing? Contrary? Read my blogs from day one, you will will know where I stand as far as the Scripture is concerned. As you disagree with me, that's why you are confused.
---christan on 8/3/11


Cluny, regarding the speciation of cats-why is this odd for Young Earth Christians?

After all the only story Scripture gives is that the earth is only some c6,000 years old.
---Warwick on 8/3/11


House cats (Felis cattus) speciated from African wild cats (Felis lybica) only 5000 years ago, according to genetic studies.

That's fairly recent in geological time.

Oddly enough, also for those who believe in a young earth.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/3/11


Micha unless the it your refering to is the "itts" i have no idea. if the it you're refering to is the itts i said, then it is correctly said: "it is all the fault of Rene Descartes" yet it is the it is that ghot wrongly written as itts,
"errare humanum est"
if this is the case then the everyone i mentioned indicates every person who wants to make a point that he indeed "is" by giving his own eronuous toughts upon everything, which was actually the point descartes tryed to score,as simply as possible: "even if i think error, the fact I'm thinking error proofs that I'm real." it was his reaction upon the philosophie that everything was imagined.
---andy3996 on 8/3/11


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Create a river a canyon evolves....Evolution happens whether it makes sense or not.
---kevin5443 on 8/3/11


The source is disobedience.
---Eloy on 8/2/11


Cluny, variations in human height have nothing to do with the macro-evolution the the term used to describe one kind of creature becoming another kind.

Whether a person is tiny or huge is about diet and climate, not evolution, as none of them are on their way to becoming something other than a human. This process of variation is only the expressing of inherent genetic information.

Obviously a new kind of creature requires masses of totally new, specific and unique information and variation does not provide this.

Do you believe variation can creat the genetic information to turn a reptile into a bird, for one example?
---Warwick on 8/2/11


andy, that seems like a very silly statement.
Can you further explain what you mean by "it" for Rene's fault, "he's" meaning "everyone" previously stated maybe?, and "them".
It might make the statement less useless, Thank You.
---micha9344 on 8/2/11


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\\Washington was 6 ft. 2 1/2 in. tall. The average American male today is 5 ft. 10 in. tall.\\

Wrong. It's a good example, because the average adult in Washington's day was MUCH shorter than 5'10"--but there are more adult males closer to 6' or more today than in Washington's time.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/2/11


Cluny: "The average adult is taller today than in George Washington's time, to give one example."

Bad example. Washington was 6 ft. 2 1/2 in. tall. The average American male today is 5 ft. 10 in. tall. Seems like you're trying to prove DEvolution! Actually, the height and longevity of a population has more to do with diet and hygiene than with any silly notion of Evolution.

Care to try again? Can you name a single thing that YOU personally know about Evolution that is true?
---jerry6593 on 8/2/11


Micha, itts all the fault of Rene Descartes, He said "Cogito ergo sum", since that time everyone who knows to count above 999.999, tries to prove he's one of them
cogito ergo sum = I think, so i am.
---andy3996 on 8/2/11


True Samuel
Gen 6:5 And GOD saw that the wickedness of man [was] great in the earth, and [that] every imagination of the thoughts of his heart [was] only evil continually.
Gen 11:6 And the LORD said, Behold, the people [is] one, and they have all one language, and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
It won't be long now....
---micha9344 on 8/1/11


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If we evolved from a sub prime being into what we are today, then why has the evolutionary process ceased progression?

probably its going so slow nobody sees it. what I'm still worried about is the missing link, when did it go missing, , and when will the FBI launch a nationwide search?
CHRISTAN, do you or don't you preach the gospel, do you believe in freewill or choice, your blogs are confusing and contrary to eachother,
By the way was Erasmus a compromiser because he refused to follow Luther, and the reformation? or is there another reason.
---andy3996 on 8/1/11


Evolution is the best theory that human minds can concieve of to replace creation by GOD. It looks at little changes now and speculates huge changes in the past.

The explaintions are often long and convoluted with much assurance being spoken but evidence that is little.

It is an impressive edifice dedicatd to human thought and ideas.
---Samuel on 8/1/11


I truly believe that should all "creators" of the evolution theory be allowed to return to earth, after having met the true Creator of all things, they too would now be Creation believer's,rather than evolution teachers.:-)) Too bad it's too late for them to correct all the damage & doubt they've caused the human race.
---Reba on 8/1/11


A question I meant to ask you, christan:

How many works of Erasmus have you actually read that you're in a position to call him a "compromiser of the Gospel"?

Can you tell us?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/1/11


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Christian, I am astounded anyone can read Scripture and conclude they have no need to spread the Good News!

Mark 16:15 "....Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation." Likewise Matthew 28:19

1 Peter 3:15 "..Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have...."

Why are we commanded to do this this if we are not meant to preach the Good News?

I am convinced that God "is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance 2 Peter 3:9.

The idea you seem to promote is that billions of people have been born, whom God gave no chance of salvation. What an ogre that God is!
---Warwick on 8/1/11


From all I have heard/read about evolution it is only a concoction of some human minds. Just as some people led some others to worship the moon, sun, stars, cow, stones, trees etc, likewise the evil one has led some to invent evolution so as to hinder some to stay with the truth of God.
---Adetunji on 8/1/11


\\A compromiser of the Gospel.\\

If memory serves, Erasmus prepared the best printed edition of the NT at that time.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/31/11


Warwick, you remind me of a certain man call Erasmus, in the time of Martin Luther. A compromiser of the Gospel.

I am totally convicted that God has already chosen to save only those whom He love, I do not witness or testify for numbers. "Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his." 2 Timothy 2:19

Harken onto the words of Jesus, "Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God: But he that denieth me before men shall be denied before the angels of God." Luke 12:8,9

Bottom-line, some may think we have the same Jesus of the bible, far be from it.
---christan on 7/31/11


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\\If we evolved from a sub prime being into what we are today, then why has the evolutionary process ceased progression? \\

Who says it has? The average adult is taller today than in George Washington's time, to give one example.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/31/11


\\When your right, your right, stick a fork in me I'm done.\\

paul, when St. Lawrence was martyred by being cooked alive over a gridiron, his last words were, "Turn me over. I'm done on this side."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/31/11


"What makes sense about evolution?"
Evolution makes sense as "a theory that the various types of animals and plants 'have their origin' in other preexisting plant and animal types, and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications [As a result of inbreeding, along with environmental changes and/or conditions] in successive generations."
You will notice that in the "creation account" the creatures of the sea, the beast of the earth, and the fowls of the air, and every thing that creeps upon the earth were 'brought forth' "after their kind." Which Implies, at least in my mind, an original pre-existing kind. At any rate, genetic Information is lost or conserved--not gained.
---joseph on 7/31/11


Christian if you really get out there and preach the gospel you will find many people are totally disinterested. If you patiently ask people why they are disinterested many will say something like-it's not the truth, science has proved the Bible wrong. By science they usually mean evolution. Because they have been indoctrinated in evolution, almost from the crib, they often unquestioningly accept it.

Many of us have found that people who are shown that evolutionn is not a fact become more prepared to listen to the gospel.

Therefore contradicting evolution is not avoiding preaching the gospel, but what is often called pre-evangelism.
---Warwick on 7/31/11


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Cluny, et al: Any hotly debated topic among Christians should be allowed to continue as long as there is interest in that topic. Don't you agree? My last post lasted only 4 days (Note: ordinary, 24-hour days), and was still going strong when cut off by the 75-post limit. Yet the blog question (borrowed from Colin Patterson) was NEVER ANSWERED. I am trying to pursuade the Mods to change from a 75-post cutoff to a 2-week no response cutoff.

Incidentally, the original blog question was changed by the Mod from the original - "Can you name one thing about Evolution that you know is true?"
---jerry6593 on 7/31/11


Proper scientific method requires that there be repeatable experiments to produce a theory. So, evolution is not a theory of science. Why do people choose to believe it, then? Our character can be our dictator. Evolution includes survival of the fittest, and selfish humans want to believe it is ok to compete to be better than other people. Evolution includes natural selection, and humans want to believe it is ok to pick and choose who is superior and phooey on ones we judge to be not good enough for us to love and for our attention. But Jesus left Heaven itself, in order to reach and share with us. So, Jesus is not conceited! (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 7/30/11


jerry, I'm sure you believe you're a Christian. And if you really think you are, why even bring up this topic of evolution (which probably is with regards to monkey to man)?

Did Jesus tell you to preach the Gospel or evolution? Where's the "meat" in your life?
---christan on 7/30/11


Give jerry a break. He, and most other christians, is stuck between "science" and the bible. Most christians attempt to find common ground between the both because science provides overwhelming "scientific" evidence that evolution is the truth. For instance, that the earth was created in six days and the "evidence" by science that the earth is billions of years old. Jerry's belief in the bible is still weak. He believes that science is 100% correct and the bible is somewhat flawed, limited, or incomplete. The bible is as literal as you and I and the fact is that no man or scientist witnessed the beginning. Jerry, let God be true and every man a liar.
---Steveng on 7/30/11


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Cluny

When your right, your right, stick a fork in me I'm done.

If any one can answer this for me I may have a renewed interest in the subject.

If we evolved from a sub prime being into what we are today, then why has the evolutionary process ceased progression?

Paul
---paul on 7/30/11


I agree with Cluny. Too much talk ,too often, over NOTHING! It's like beating a dead horse. What good does repeating this topic do for anyone? Been there, done that already...MOVE ON...PLEASE.
---Reba on 7/30/11


Evolution used to make sense to me after I had been brainwashed through the education system and mainstream media.

Now I realise nothing makes sense about evolution. It's a fairy tale.
---Haz27 on 7/30/11


Evolution makes sense to some people, and not to others. But it's irrelevant. If someone believes Christ died for them and rose again, it doesn't matter what they believe about evolution. If that's a problem for anyone, well, it's their problem. :-)
---John.usa on 7/30/11


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That the Devil will use it to keep some of God's people always chasing after facts that are really only theories. God is not the arthor of confusion,Satan does that and then sets back and laughs at all who are taken in and argue about it. The Bible says the things which are,are not made of the things which are seen(parapharsed). By that we know eveloution is impossible because those things are said to have developed from something already in existance.
---Darlene_1 on 7/30/11


What doesn't make sense is your obsession with this matter, jerry. This is the FOURTH time you've brought up the subject that I can think of, and the second time this month alone.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/30/11


that we now all have a reason to continue arguing even when the 75 answwers a blogg are used LOL

CHRIST IS LOVE
---andy3996 on 7/30/11


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