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Paul is saved in Acts 9 and sent to the Gentiles. He baptized a few, but after he received the mystery of the revelation (Rom 16:25) he wrote 1 Cor telling us he was not sent to baptize but to preach the gospel. michael_e

Michael_e, God didn't send ME to Baptize anyone either, but has left that to others. But He did send me to preach the Gospel.

God didn't send Paul to collect for the poor, or wait tables either, but we do see others did do that.

Just because Paul didn't DO IT ALL, doesn't mean it doesn't need to be done.
---kathr4453 on 8/16/11


Paul is saved in Acts 9 and sent to the Gentiles. He baptized a few, but after he received the mystery of the revelation (Rom 16:25) he wrote 1 Cor telling us he was not sent to baptize but to preach the gospel.

Paul tells us there is one baptism, he also tells us when we believe 1 cor. 15:1-4 we are baptized BY ONE SPIRIT into the body of Christ (not water). The references Paul makes in his epistles refer to Spirit baptism. (Rom 6:3,Gal 3:27, Col 2:12)

I Cor 1:17
I Cor 12:13
I Cor 12:27
Rom 6:3
Gal 3:27 Col 2:12
Eph 4:5
God is no longer dealing with Israel requiring water baptism, he is dealing with all alike (Gal 3:28). The one baptism today is by one Spirit into one body, the body of Christ.
---michael_e on 8/16/11


Jesus said He would baptize with FIRE!

Numbers 31:23
Every thing that may abide the fire, ye shall make it go through the fire, and it shall be clean: nevertheless it shall be purified with the water of separation: and all that abideth not the fire ye shall make go through the water.

Psalm 66:12
Thou hast caused men to ride over our heads, we went through fire and through water: but thou broughtest us out into a wealthy place.
---kathr4453 on 8/16/11


Michael_e re:acts 22, are you saying Paul is not a part of the church, or those who baptized him are not? Is Paul part of both Church and the Kingdom restored to Israel?

No michael_e, you did not answer me.

Did Paul, after his conversion while witnessing Acts 22, denounce baptism? Did he say afterwords concerning his conversion...yes, I was FIRST converted to the Kingdom restored to Israel, and was even baptized, BUT AFTER THAT I had "another conversion experience", that of Being Born Again and baptzed into Christ's Body, this time realizing I didn't need to be baptized?

OK where is that testimony michael_e? What chapter and verse did his second conversion happen ?
---kathr4453 on 8/16/11


Supersede hullabaloo?
1 Corinthians 13:12 "For now we see through a glass, darkly, but then face to face: now I know in part, but then shall I know even as also I am known."
---Nana on 8/15/11




kathr, so you didn't go back and read all of acts 22, somehow i didn't think you would.
---michael_e on 8/15/11


Since Paul makes it clear that there is only one baptism in Eph 4:5 why is there such a hullabaloo over baptisms?

If Paul says there is only one then it must be the one baptism Paul teaches. found in 1 Cor. 12:13 and Rom. 6:3.
It is dry and performed by the Spirit baptizing you into Christ. This is the baptism that saves you. It is not water baptism of any kind.

If you can see this then you have succeeded at making the leap of scriptural understanding that the information Jesus gave to Paul supersedes the information found in Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

If you do not see this then you are stuck trying to reconcile the multiple baptisms taught in the Lords earthly ministry with the single baptism in Ephesians 4:5
---michael_e on 8/15/11


This is a nonessential augment about baptism which is clearly "a shadow of things to come." Mature believers are seeking Jesus and the meat of the word. In answer to the question without belaboring is, Any believer can baptize a new believer. No formal education is required. Look it up. It is there.:)
---jody on 8/15/11


Hyper-Dispensationalists like michael_e are also against the Church being partakers of the New Covenant as well. That the Gospels are for Jews alone, and Jesus saying communion is for Jews alone.

If the New Covenant was only for the Jews why is Paul not rebuking the Corinthians for partaking of teh Lords supper? Paul did not teach that the body of Christ was not a part of the New Covenant either.

Those who teach that the body of Christ is not in the New Covenant through the atoning shed blood of Jesus Christ are themselves in deception.

Their false doctrine is more than just being about baptism.

The New TESTAMENT Is the New Covenant...

2 Corinthians 3.
---kathr4453 on 8/15/11


michael_e, you still skirt around the questions/scriptures I have asked, and also placed here.

Peter did NOT bring an accursed Gospel into Galatia!!!

It's You who need to get these FACTS streight in your head.

I believe John 3:16 is what Jesus said, YES in the Gospels, and is this very verse MANY are saved by TODAY! Both Jew and Gentile.

Peter tells us we are BOUGHT by the Blood of Jesus Christ, another CHURCH truth.

Peter also tells us we are partakers of HIS divine nature throug FAITH. Also via GRACE. Paul preaches the exact same thing, that we the CHURCH are being conformed to His Image.
---kathr4453 on 8/15/11




Paul himself said that the church is built upon the apostleS plural and not merely upon himself (Eph. 2:20) and the mysteries were revealed unto his holy apostleS and prophetS (Eph. 3:5) and not to him alone. Peter also referred to the writings of Paul and made no distinction between Pauls teaching and the teaching of the other apostles (2 Pet. 3:1-2, 15-16). Peter said Paul wrote to the same people and preached the same message. Though we know that Paul was the special apostle of the Gentiles and he was given unique revelations about the church as the body of Christ, his revelations in no way contradict the revelations given in the General Epistles (Hebrews - Jude).
---kathr4453 on 8/15/11


//how do you explain Paul in Acts 22?//
he is simply recounting what happened to him in acts 9.
you need to read more of acts 22, to see what is really going on.(acts22:13)
//That Gospel begins AFTER the Rapture of the Church//
What did Jesus preach in His earthly ministry?
(Mt.3:2,4:17,10:7 Mark 1:14,15)
What did Peter preach? Acts 2:38,3:19,20 to whom did he preach?(Acts 2:36, 3:12,13)
The nation of Israel, no gentiles here.

What did Paul preach?(Rom.1:16, 15:19etc.)
What is Pauls Gospel? (1Cor 15:1-4)
to whom did he preach? (Rom. 1:16, 3:22, 10:12)
kathr,please try to get your thoughts straight, before you accuse.
---michael_e on 8/15/11


michael_e, then how do you explain Paul in Acts 22? He's clearly telling people to be baptized.

So was Paul confused about these two Gospels you claim are being preached at the same time? The Kingdom Gospel is ACCURED, Gal 1, Colossians 2 And you say ALSO sanctioned by God too? These two gospels are ENEMIES of one another. Peter never brought in another Gospel into Galatia. Paul rebuked him for being a hypocrire, not for bringing in another accursed Gospel.

What you are really teaching michael_e is anti-semitic. That Jews have a different gospel than Gentiles. That there is two ways to God? That Jews are not part of the Body of Christ.

That Gospel begins AFTER the Rapture of the Church.
---kathr4453 on 8/15/11


Paul speaking

Acts 22:14And he said, The God of our fathers hath chosen thee, that thou shouldest know his will, and see that Just One, and shouldest hear the voice of his mouth.

15For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.

16And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

So michael_e, maybe Paul didn't baptize but a few hilself, however he never preached anti-baptism.

Paul was well into his ministry in Acts 22, and was witnessing speaking TRUTH in the power of the Holy Spirit.
---kathr4453 on 8/15/11


What michael_e is teaching is called HYPER dispensationalism. It's as false as Hyper Calvinism, or Hyper anything.

They fall in the category of snake handlers.

Calvinists believe because God took Paul in one direction IT MEANT God didn't want those in the other direction to be saved.

So because Paul didn't use his ministry to Baptize, but left that to the Church leaders, means Paul didn't believe or teach baptism.

These guys are really not lead by the Holy Spirit, but their own over-reactive imaginations.
---kathr4453 on 8/15/11


//Rob on 8/14/11Under the New Covenant, a person who baptizes another person is only getting that person wet.//
Amen Rob, thank you for your testimony.
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---michael_e on 8/14/11


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michael_e, Jesus was rejected by the Jews was because He didn't come to restore the Kingdom to Israel and over throw the Romans. John too announced "Behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world".

Peter is saying in 1st Peter, by the Resurrection of Jesus Christ, also confirming this baptism is NOT the one John the Baptist was baptizing with because John didn't Baptize in reference to Jesus death snd resurrection.

John's was the washing away of the sins of the flesh by Water, however our sin is washed away by the Blood of Christ.

And only the Blood of Christ can purge the conscience from dead works to serve the LIVING God. Peter is clearly making a destinction between these two baptisms.
---kathr4453 on 8/14/11


michael_e, Did you know that the story of Noah's ark and the flood is a foreshadowing of baptism? In the days of Noah, the earth was filled with violence and disobedience, yet God saved Noah and his family through water, a symbol of both death and life. Although the flood waters brought about death and destruction, the ultimate result was new life and a new covenant. In the same way, the waters of baptism represent both death and new life. Through the waters of baptism, we become dead to sin and are made alive in Christ.
---kathr4453 on 8/14/11


It is the Holy Spirit who baptizes a person into the Body of Christ at the very moment of their SALVATION.

Under the New Covenant, a person who baptizes another person is only getting that person wet.
---Rob on 8/14/11


//we know He didn't come to Restore the Nation// Israel.
Do we? What do you think His earthly ministry was about?
Jn. 1:11 he came unto his own..
Matthew 10:5These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles,
Matt 15:24 But he answered and said I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Acts 1:6 wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? 7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons
Rom 15:8Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God,(why?) to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
---michael_e on 8/14/11


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//Michael_e, do you understand LIKE FIGURES, etc.//
I do
kathr, do you understand right division?
1 Peter 1:1 Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the strangers scattered throughout Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
Who are these strangers.

2 Pet. 2:12"Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles:"..
You don't believe peter is speaking to the Body of Christ do you?
---michael_e on 8/14/11


\\Cluny. You don't actually think Paul preached Christ hanging on a Cross do you?
\\

You don't actually think he DIDN'T, do you?

I pointed out to you from Paul's own words that he preached "Christ crucified."

What do you think "crucified" means other than "hanging on a cross"?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/14/11


1 Peter 3:19-21
19By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison, 20Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

21The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Michael_e, do you understand LIKE FIGURES, etc.
---kathr4453 on 8/14/11


Cluny. You don't actually think Paul preached Christ hanging on a Cross do you?

1Cor.15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, 4 And that he was buried, and that he ROSE again the third day according to the scriptures:
---michael_e on 8/14/11


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Michael_e, there are many types and shaddows, and like figures concerning baptism / death/ water.

One is in Joshua. This is so AWESOME. Coming from Egypt to cross the Jordan into the Promise land. How long did that take....3 days...WOW! No coincidence here.

Who went FIRST? WOW

Who Followed? WOW!

Now take us TODAY. Egypt represents the World, The Promise land represents Christ.

And it takes the CROSS, to get from one side to the other.

I believe Jesus Baptism in the Jordan was indication His own death and resurrection. He certainly didn't need to repent, and we know He didn't come to Restore the Nation Israel.
---kathr4453 on 8/14/11


\\He also didn't preach Christ still hanging on a Cross.
---michael_e on 8/13/11\\

Yes, he did.

1 Corinthians 1:23
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness,

So do you find the message of Christ crucified to be a stumbling block or foolishness, michael_e?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/14/11


Acts is a transitional not a doctrinal Book. The first 8 chapt are to the Nation of Israel, they had killed their Messiah, and Peter doesn't let them forget this. Chapt 9 Paul's conversion,apostle to gentiles.Beginning of a change.
Chapt 10 Peter forced to go to cornelius, because it wasn't lawful for him to to be with a non-jew. then peter goes back to jerusalem, not all the world.
baptism and circumcision healings plus temple worship are still going on.
Acts 11:19 jew only
After Chapt 15 Peter is silent, and it's all Paul. baptism along with healing miracles diminish.
The nation of israel fades, the church the Body of Christ has it's beginning
the Bible gives us an Apostle to follow with the salvation Gospel 1 Cor 15:1-4
---michael_e on 8/13/11


Actually any believer can baptize another believer but usually a minister does it.
---shirley on 8/13/11


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oke michael-e, keep resisting God all i know is
John 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
SAMARITAN NON JEWS
Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
PAUL WHO ABANDONED waterbaptism
Acts 9:18 And immediately there fell from his eyes as it had been scales: and he received sight forthwith, and arose, and was baptized.
GREEK PAGANS
Acts 10:46-47 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,Can any man forbid water, I FORGOT almost
acts 16:14-15 & 33 pagans, 18:8 a Jew and pagans baptised toghether
---andy3996 on 8/13/11


MICHAEL-E Acts 22:16 Paul testifies about his own baptism.
Romans 6:3-4 paul teaches about waterbaptism 1 Cor1:13-17. Baptism makes us one with Christ Gal 3:27, Ephesians 5:26 BAPTISM is biblical AND advocated by Paul.

is it baptism itself that saves?
Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved, but he that believeth not shall be damned.
INDEED Your waterbaptism needs to follow your faith, but a true believer submits to waterbaptism as he submits to Christ.
---andy3996 on 8/13/11


//Now what?//
He also didn't preach Christ still hanging on a Cross.
---michael_e on 8/13/11


\\Paul was not sent to baptise or circumcise, but by to bring salvation to the gentiles. \\

Yet, we know that St. Paul did baptize and circumcise, because he said so himself.

Now what?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/13/11


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kathr4453
//Buried with Him in baptism unto death//
Christ didn't die in water.
//So, I wasn't baptized identifying with Israel one bit, but with Jesus death and resurrection.My Baptism didn't save me, but was an outward witness of what had already happened.//
Show some scripture for this thought please.

My baptism by the Holy Spirit, not some man, placed me in the body of Christ
---michael_e on 8/13/11


andy
Paul was not sent to baptise or circumcise, but by to bring salvation to the gentiles.
Paul was appointed by the risen Christ, to form the Church, the body of Christ,a joint Body, composed of Jewish and Gentile believers alike, with no difference, positionally, between them.

Eph. 3:6 "That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs (joint-heirs), and of the same Body (of a joint-Body), and partakers of His promise in Christ by the gospel"(1Cor 15:1-4)
I Cor. 12:13 "For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one Body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles..." (no water)

Gal 3:27"For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ(no water) have put on Christ.
---michael_e on 8/13/11


Michael e do you reject baptism because Paul did not occupy himself with
1 forming candidates and 2 preparing them in your mind? Paul DID baptise 1 Coirinthians shows this also the guardian and his household, and the twelve he met on the road. PAUL was rebuking a church about seditions that where apparent. and some used their baptism to join others to their baptism. this verse is so strongly in the chapter that indeed one canot seperate it to form any coclussion. try to read your bible contextual, it will speak totally new revelations to you
---andy3996 on 8/13/11


Michael_e, when I was saved I was also Baptized. Not sprinkled, but totally submurged. My pastor said, as he brought me down into teh water:

Buried with Him in baptism unto death and raised up togehther with Him a New Creature, now being baptized into His Body.

So, I wasn't baptized identifying with Israel one bit, but with Jesus death and resurrection.

My Baptism didn't save me, but was an outward witness of what had already happened.

But his words of truth left such a mark of truth with me, and not only that, but the Holy Spirit was right there witnessing to this truth. That was a GLORIOUS day I will never foget.
---kathr4453 on 8/13/11


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andy
//Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel//
how else could you take this passage?
he said he was not sent to baptise, but he baptised a few jews anyway.
The 12 apostles to Israel WERE sent to baptise.
---michael_e on 8/13/11


Throughout the bible, there has always been people who were anointed or and concecrated to peform the work of God. It is only those who are anointed and concecrated who are allowed to perform baptism.
God is a God or order.
---Francis on 8/13/11


Michaele
you quoted "1 Corinthians 1:14-17 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius,Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel...". THISWAY "Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:" insinuating a totally different meaning.
afterwards you try to justify yourself by saying: Did you ever do something you were not told to do. PAUL in his early... honnestly i would have not taken offence if you wouldn't have used the biblepassage eronicly way.
it is antibiblical to say the apostles didn't baptise with water
---andy3996 on 8/13/11


\\Francis, if someone is in danger of death, Cluny is saying they should be baptized, triple immersion if possible.\\

That is not what I said, Donna.

Please go back and read it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/13/11


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I believe that those who truly exercise the truth of Gods word, are all entitled too baptize another who isn't. It says in the bible that through Jesus, we are ALL given the authority to exercise the word.
What I believe it is this. A person who is of truth is then in the light. And that person who is in the light has then life. And life comes only from our Lord Jesus Christ.
---Daniel_R. on 8/12/11


It says in Romans14: 22-23," You may believe there's nothing wrong with what you are doing, but keep it between you and God. Blessed are those who don't feel guilty for doing something they have decided is right. But if you have doubt about whether or not you should eat something, you are sinning if you go ahead and do it. For you are not following your own conviction. If you do anything you believe is not right, you are sinning."
---Daniel_R. on 8/12/11


//andy3996 on 8/12/11in defending one's position he should not alter God's word, or lie about its contents//

Maybe you could point out my altercations and lies.
---michael_e on 8/12/11


Michael...I appreciate that insight.

You said,
"water baptism identified Israel with her King and kingdom.our spiritual baptism identifies us with the Body of Christ."

That is so true! In Acts 2 when their hearts were pricked they needed to identify Jesus as King.

Thanks!
---Rickey on 8/12/11


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This subject will open your eyes about what Jesus Christ means to you!
---mima on 8/11/11

well why don't you tell us.

Baptism is an outward sign of commitment to Christ Jesus. To be like him in death and reborn in his spirit.
---Scott1 on 8/12/11


Michael e up to now i talked to you, assuming you donot read the word for yourself.
in defending one's position he should not alter God's word, or lie about its contents.
Please for Christ's sake, find the truth.
---andy3996 on 8/12/11


andy
Did you ever do something you were not told to do. In his early ministry, Paul did baptising some Jews.

water baptism identified Israel with her King and kingdom.
our spiritual baptism identifies us with the Body of Christ.

We don't feel, see it or get wet, it's the Holy Spirit placing us into and identifying us with and in the Body of Christ.

1 Cor 12:13
tells us it's the Holy Spirit, not man, doing the baptizing. We are baptized into the one body, the body of Christ.

There's no longer distinction between Jew and Gentile because Israel has been set aside for rejecting the Lord Jesus Christ. God will deal with Israel again, but for today they get saved and receive the same DRY baptism we do.
---michael_e on 8/12/11


Francis, that's a fair question and I will answer it.

Cluny said, in an emergency--which means in danger of death--any Orthodox Christian may baptize, coming as close to triple immersion as possible.
---Cluny on 8/10/11//

Francis, if someone is in danger of death, Cluny is saying they should be baptized, triple immersion if possible.

So if you are dying, call Cluny and he will tripe immerse you into baptism.

I believe the Baptism that saves is the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, not Water Baptism.

When Jesus got Baptized by John the Baptist, the heavens opened and a dove descended, which is a sign of the Holy Spirit. The exchange for Water Baptism was made through Jesus when the Dove came down upon Him.
---Donna5535 on 8/12/11


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CLUNY i said ",Paul was a recognised apostle, Phillip a recognised deacon and evangelist. always it was the governmental ministry in the bible that baptised, both in water and Spirit". I never said paul didn't baptise, i confirmed Paul is an apostle who did baptise.
Michael e you misquote indeed
1 Corinthians 1:14-17 I thank God that I baptized none of you, but Crispus and Gaius,Lest any should say that I had baptized in mine own name.And I baptized also the household of Stephanas: besides, I know not whether I baptized any other. For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1 Paul DID baptise 2that was not his MINISTRY.
---andy3996 on 8/12/11


1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us

(not the putting away of the filth of the flesh [with water],

but the answer of a good conscience toward God [with Spirit and fire],)

by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
---aka on 8/11/11


\\Cluny is saying here that Baptism saves.\\

So does the second letter of Peter. "Baptism doth also now save us."

andy, Paul says that he DID baptize people.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/11/11


//andy3996 //
Eph. 4:5.."one baptism,"
1Cor 12:13"For by one Spirit(not man) .."

Water baptism was necessary for Israel's salvation during Christs' earthly ministry.

Mark 1:4-5 John preached to all Israel the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins, they were baptized confessing their sins.

Acts 2:38 Peter said to them (Israel), Repent, and be baptized , then receive the Holy Ghost.
Water baptism was a part of Israels salvation program
Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, writing to the BoC says something in 1 Cor. Peter and apostles to Israel could never say when he said, Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:"
Holy Spirit: baptizer
man: baptizee
---michael_e on 8/11/11


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Donna5535 Cluny never made a secret of his believes. he is as "much trying us to ghet into his true church" as we are "trying to ghet him out of his wrong church" let that not disturb you
---andy3996 on 8/11/11


---Donna5535 on 8/11/11
I hate they way you posted that. I especially hate when people put words in other peoples mouths/ blogs. Never did cluny say that baptism saves, so why did you say that he said that?
---Francis on 8/11/11


At our last baptism service, friends who were instrumental in discipling the new believers did the baptizing.
---Trish9863 on 8/11/11


aka, good one, I LOVE it. Great Answer!!!

I am finally seeing where Cluny is coming from.

///The practice in the Orthodox Church is In an emergency--which means in danger of death--any Orthodox Christian may baptize, coming as close to triple immersion as possible.---Cluny on 8/10/11///

Cluny is saying here that Baptism saves. Especially triple immersion..LOL!! Oh Lord, help us.

Cluny believes Baptism gets you to heaven, especially TRIPLE IMMERSION . What a false doctrine this is. NOW I "see" where Cluny is coming from.

Lord help us understand your Word not just with our heads, but by Revelation Knowledge coming from Your Holy Spirit. Thank you Jesus.
---Donna5535 on 8/11/11


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\\If the Jehovah's Witness who got saved was directed by God to go to his uncle to be baptized, then his uncle was chosen by God,\\

Ah--but did God really do this?

That has yet to be determined.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/11/11


I would like to ask this question concerning baptism. Why was Jesus Christ baptized? Got any ideas? This subject will open your eyes about what Jesus Christ means to you!
---mima on 8/11/11


The proper answer is that normally, deacons, priests and bishops are the only ones that may legitimately baptize. However, in case of an emergency, where the person to be baptized is in extreme danger of losing his life, then any baptized Christian can baptize, using the formula: "I baptize you in the Name of the Father, and the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
---Blogmeister on 8/11/11


"Michael e" anyone can baptise anyone, the baptizer may not be christian and the one be baptised may not be christian.
i do hope you'r not serious, then you continue to pull 1 cor 12:13out of its ligaments, YOU most certainly where only trying to provoke anger, so what do you really believe on the subject.
---andy3996 on 8/11/11


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---Leslie on 8/10/11

Matthew 28:16 Then the eleven disciples went away into Galilee, into a mountain where Jesus had appointed them.
Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Jesus earlier he had anointed them with the Holy Spirit.John 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on [them], and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost

My Post says:
only elders ( this would include pastors) and deacons Those ordained into ministry can baptize. I am yet to see a non-ordained christian baptize another

And all 11 disciples fell into that catigory
---francis on 8/11/11


Who Can Baptize?

Jesus Christ (with Spirit and fire)
---aka on 8/10/11


John was a public preacher of the tribe of Levi, the family of Aaron, Jesus was "in a way" publically set apart by John (a priest and prophet)Then Jesus set the disciples apart into the ministry during Holy supper, who baptised in the name of the father the son and the Holy ghost, however never seperated from the church,Paul was a ecognised apostle, Phillip a recognised deacon and evangelist. alway it was the governmental ministry in the bible that baptised, both in water and Spirit. but it appears that most dwell in the sin of the levites numbers 16:9-40 that However you people received the priesthood of the saints you want more then what God attributed thee.
---andy3996 on 8/10/11


anyone can baptise anyone, the baptizer may not be christian and the one be baptised may not be christian.
The one that counts is
1 Cor. 12:13
"For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body..."
when the holy Spirit baptises(places)you into the body of Christ, you are Christian.
---michael_e on 8/10/11


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The practice in the Orthodox Church is that normally baptism is administered by presbyters or bishops by triple immersion.

In an emergency--which means in danger of death--any Orthodox Christian may baptize, coming as close to triple immersion as possible.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/10/11


Hi, Mina (c: you say, "The answer is anybody."
And, "His uncle was not a pastor only a layperson."

If the Jehovah's Witness who got saved was directed by God to go to his uncle to be baptized, then his uncle was chosen by God, and so he wasn't just anybody. But I can see that, by "anybody", you mean anyone whom God has chosen and directed.

Ananias went to minister to Paul after Paul was converted to Jesus (Acts 9:10-11). It says Ananias was "a certain disciple", in Acts 9:10. It does not say he was an elder or pastor, but "a devout man" (Acts 22:12). And he was involved in getting Paul baptized (Acts 22:11-16). But Ananias wasn't just anyone (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 8/10/11


defenately the Elders and the deaconry of the church. anything outside this is nonbiblical
mind before you use him as an example, that John was a priest as well as a prophet.
Jesus was set apart into the ministry, jesus set the twelve apart unto the ministry (phillip was deacon and evangelist) Paul was elder and apostle,
so obvious the bishops and deacons are left. a nonleader should stay away from what isn't for him. Jude 1:11,
---andy3996 on 8/10/11


francis - If only elders in the church or those in the 5-fold (Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Evangelists, Teachers) can baptize people, then why does Matthew 28:19-20 speak to EVERYONE that is born again and following Jesus? If your theory is true, then God is a LIAR.
---Leslie on 8/10/11


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only elders ( this would include pastors) and deacons Those ordained into ministry can baptize. I am yet to see a non-ordained christian baptize another.
---francis on 8/10/11


Anyone who has the Baptism of the Holy Spirit.
---Donna5535 on 8/10/11


If you are in Christ, you can baptize others. Jesus (speaking to His followers - if you are TRULY saved and follow Jesus Christ as Lord (boss) this is you) says to go into all the world and preach the Gospel and baptize in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:19-20). This verse says that if you are in Christ, you can baptize, and you don't need a Pastor to do it, you can do it.
---Leslie on 8/10/11


Our pastor preaches messages that feed sheep. And we minister for people to commit to Jesus and then they are baptized by the pastor with supporting members present in celebration.

John the Baptist was a specially prepared and chosen person. He did not only baptize but he preached and I would say prepared and evaluated people for baptism.

I can see we need a person who is chosen and prepared by God, a good example (1 Peter 5:3), fully established as a leader in Christ's body.

This needs to be a leader, like Phillip (Acts 8:26-40), who will make sure someone gets God's word and has trusted in Jesus being God's Son and our Lord and Savior and plans to obey Jesus. And then the person "may" (Acts 8:37).
---Bill_willa6989 on 8/10/11


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any christian can baptize a christian. NO doctorate, cementery (I mean seminary) degree, pastorship required.
---Scott1 on 8/10/11


according the bible deacons and elders have this authority. nevertheless always in the name of the father the Son and the Holy Spirit. i donot really appreciate these badtub-baptisms behind the back of the churchleadership.
also the candidate should be 1 a regular member in the church, or
2 been known to a testifying minister who helped him know the doctrinal basics.
---andy3996 on 8/10/11


The answer is anybody. You can in fact baptize yourself. Also anyone can marry anyone else.

The reason I know this to be true is I was once asked to marry a couple in Colorado. Because of this being out-of-state I inquired of the regulations and I was told that anyone can marry anyone in most states in the union. The couple did not get married.

I also know a man who was once a Jehovah witness and had the following experience. After praying one night he went to sleep then he woke up, sat up in bed, spoken in tongues, then in English interpreted himself and the interpretation was. Go to Memphis and on the Arkansas side of the Mississippi River have your uncle baptize you. His uncle was not a pastor only a layperson.
---mima on 8/10/11


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