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Obama Declining America

Is Obama purposely engineering the decline of the American Republic?

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Since when does the President control the budget?
---Francis on 8/15/11

Have you not been watching the news, that's what this whole fiasco has been about with the debt ceiling, our AAA standard and the budget passage.

He has played a very active role in influencing the tone of the negotiations on capital hill.

Are you serious or are you just playing around.

If your serious I pity your ignorance to the protocol in Washington.

This president has had chances to stop Bush policies you Dems always speak against.

He would not allow for enough cuts to assure the S & P rating

His only answer is raise taxes that will cost more job loss

Post some real facts or concede that you have no idea.
---paul on 8/16/11


Nurse

Reuters report,
August 2, President Barack Obama signed legislation designed to reduce the fiscal deficit by $2.1 trillion over 10 years. But that was well short of the $4 trillion in savings S & P had called for

Bloomberg
The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the Administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the governments medium-term debt dynamics, S & P said in a statement late yesterday after markets closed.


WASHINGTON (AP) --

failed to cut enough government spending to satisfy S & P. The issue has contributed to convulsions in financial markets.


Much more?
---paul on 8/16/11


Take any Liberal arguement to its logical conclusion and you will see the falacy of it.

Let's take Taxes.

If a little tax increase is good, then why not increase it to 100%. That then should put the country right on track to amazing prosperity!
---John on 8/16/11


John, prove it, else your seditious tongue merely wags in the wind. And if you are displeased with our good President of the U.S.A., then kindly leave our country, perhaps you can find some other leader that you should support.
---Eloy on 8/16/11


John:
From what I could see from Australia it seemed to me that Obama appealed to many racially prejudiced and racist voters.

Even in Australia there was much more media interest in that election than earlier US elections. And it was mostly focused on Obama's skin color.
I found unthinking people here during that election campagin even said they preferred to see Obama as president simply because of his skin color. Yet these people didn't have a clue about his policies.

Obama's election showed that effective political propaganda symbols, etc works better than rational political debate over party policies. It's scarey that many voters can be so easily manipulated.
---Haz27 on 8/16/11




Why doesn't everyone just call it what it is? Sin, and more Sin. No matter who is in. The country is heading in the direction that it was destine to. If we had a real holy president, we would be taken over by any country. We would turn the other cheek when someone attack us. If we love our neighbors, Mexico could take over. If they attacked us, we would pray for them. The power this country has was bought with the lives of many. It is still the best country in the world to live in. Believers should stop throwing stones at each other, and just call it what it is, Sin. The presidents are prepared by groups of people who have many sinful ideas. Every president have been groomed for the position. Trained for a perticular purpose.
---Mark_V. on 8/16/11


All that and the claim that the President is still an illegal alien!
Those officials that you guys had wished won the last election must be slow in the head ^10 to allow all that nonsense!
---Nana on 8/16/11


This is all Obamas mess, its called accountability.


---paul on 8/15/11
Since when does the President control the budget?
---Francis on 8/15/11


Lots of American believe Obama is a Traitor and He is doing exactly what he plans to do.

I believe the previous election was a fraud and that Obama never had a majority of the votes. Not even close. It was rigged from the get go.
---John on 8/15/11


Paul, YOU might want to research more before YOU regurgatate your right wing talking points. From the S & P website:

The political brinksmanship of recent months highlights what we see as America's governance and policymaking becoming less stable, less effective, and less predictable than what we previously believed. The statutory debt ceiling and the threat of default have become political bargaining chips in the debate over fiscal policy.

One of the main reasons for the down grade was the inability of the righ and left to come togehter and make policy..

Francis is more right than you give her credit for.
---NurseRobert on 8/15/11




Paul, I believe about 90% of Americans feel the same way as your post.
---shira3877 on 8/15/11

The numbers reflect that 61 percent of Americans feel that way or at least a very similar way.

Obama is at a thirty nine percent approval rate, facts don't lie.

The tea party is an indication that Americans are fed up with the status quo and are willing to stand up and be counted, thank God for that.

They are what is standing between Obama and socialism and that is why some people have such a disdain for them.

Thank God their are still some people with common since wrapped around their educational accomplishments.

Fred Thompson says why do they call it common since when it is so uncommon.

Paul
---paul on 8/15/11


The Tea Party Saved this country!

Francis, if it were not for the Tea Party it would have been business as usual.

The Democrats and the RINOs would have just raised the Debt ceiling to 18-20trillion totally unhinder.

Then Obama could continue of his spenidng madness with no limit in place.

THANK G-D FOR THE TEA PARTY!!!
---John on 8/15/11


Paul, I believe about 90% of Americans feel the same way as your post. I have believed and still believe Obama is purposely destroying America. Conservatives know this. Now all we have to do is take care of voting fraud in the next election. How do we do that since they are part of the obama crowd.
---shira3877 on 8/15/11


Some are saying "yes". I do not know the answer. I have noticed that there are many "haters " who profess to be democrats. They seem arrogant and like they are somehow more educated and smarter than republicans. That is just silly and a show of their own lack of wisdom. We are all stupid:).
---jody on 8/15/11


2: lost of AAA rating was not due to The presidents doing but rather to the Tea party's useless arguements
---Francis on 8/15/11


Francis

You may want to investigate a matter before you regurgitate your cnn talking points.

Reuters report
S & P cut the long-term U.S. credit rating by one notch to AA-plus on concerns about the government's budget deficit and rising debt burden. The action is likely to eventually raise borrowing costs for the American government, companies and consumers.

This is all Obamas mess, its called accountability.

---paul on 8/15/11


PAUl stop it!
Every president takes credit for creating jobs every last on of them who created a job.

The AAA rating was not droped due to default on payment, or inability to pay, but rather because of the manner congress conducted itself. The hold up had to do with the tea party
---francis on 8/15/11


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No presedent can control job
---Francis on 8/15/11

Obama sure takes the credit for jobs when a few pop up across the country for him to have very little to do with it.

Debt is not how were supose to fund government is was intended for taxes to fund it, thats why we need to decrease government and not expand it as Obama has. And you cant continue to raise the ceiling without the immediate prospect to lower the debt level.

What does the tea party have to do with this, AAA rating was dropped due to a lack of confidence of avoiding default.

Bush has been out for three years, where's the change, Obama has influence in legislation and all power over bill passage. So yes he has a great deal to do with job creation.
---paul on 8/15/11


---paul on 8/15/11
You are just wrong
1: Debt would have gone up even if King david ws president. We have been doing this for years. Debt is how we fund the Government, and we have always raised the debt cieling without fuss
2: lost of AAA rating was not due to The presidents doing but rather to the Tea party's useless arguements
3:Job lose did not start with him. But when GM and chrysler came back SOME job came back.
Truth be told No presedent can control job loss or job gain.
---Francis on 8/15/11


Francis

Look you may like Obama and I understand that, but to say we have gotten better is simply a lie.

We just lost our AAA standing, our debt is higher than it has ever been in history, this president has accrued more debt than all presidents combined, his stimulus was a failure. he is not expanding any work force except for government jobs and his only plan is to raise taxes and his only reason is he inherited a mess.

Come on you have got to be kidding me, If you want to be on that side of disaster that's fine but don't propagate that as better.


Cluny

I realize I partial posted your comments, it was the only facts worth posting.

Paul
---paul on 8/15/11


\\We have a health care bill which allows people to have insurance even with prior illness and assures that you cannot be dropped if you get sick.\\

No, francis. In its present form, it doesn't allow people to have insurance.

It REQUIRES people to BUY health insurance.

Not the same thing at all.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/15/11


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bush IS a FAILURE. he lied about the war, wasted trillions, asked for $700 billion bailout for rich wall st while the people suffered, enron was the preview of the coming economic meltdown.
that is why the GOP want obama to fail because GOP is the party of failure. their love for profit & money is the root of all evil.
---mike on 8/15/11


we DO not vote for a commander in chief we vote for a president. I am a civilian not a soldier.

jerry

why did you not ask the same question when bush was president. what happened to
ENRON -2001
911 - 2001
iraq war -2003
economic meltdown & $700 billion bailout - 2008
$10 trillion deficit when bush left
bush presidency 2000-2008
---mike on 8/15/11


"Yes, the debt has increased under Obama, but it would have increased had Solomon been president."
That is a straight fact!
---Nana on 8/15/11


Now allow me a question, has it gotten worse and grown to mammoth proportions with Obama?
---paul on 8/13/11
No, it has gotten better, but not as fast as most people expected
Examples: GM is restored, and has paid back the loan and is now showing a profit.
Chrysler is restored and is projecting a 2 billion dollar profit.
Although people continue to suffer from foreclosures, the rate of foreclosure has declined.
We have a health care bill which allows people to have insurance even with prior illness and assures that you cannot be dropped if you get sick. Bin ladin is dead.
JOBS HAVE NOT COME BACK AS FAST AS EXPECTED
But things are getting better, not as fast as expected.
facts say better,hateful politics says otherwise
---Francis on 8/15/11


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paul, you quoted only part of what I said.

Yes, the debt has increased under Obama, but it would have increased had Solomon been president.

May I remind people that faith does not necessarily mean one will be a good president?

In 1976, it seemed that the only issue was the relative piety of the two major candidates. There's no doubt about Carter's faith, but that didn't make him a good president.

Please remember that we vote for a commander in chief, NOT a pastor in chief, or even a layman in chief.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/15/11


Now allow me a question, has it gotten worse and grown to mammoth proportions with Obama?
---paul on 8/13/11

Yes.
---Sag on 8/14/11


\\Now allow me a question, has it gotten worse and grown to mammoth proportions with Obama?\\

Yes.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/14/11


Thanks for the honesty guys, looks different with just the facts without the figuring.

Paul
---paul on 8/15/11


Part 2: Every president we have had, does not know everything there is to know. They depend on people around them to help them. Everyone has an agenda. Most of the time it is for money and power. All sinful ideas. Someone is always out to make money. The Savings and loans, Enron, then the banks get all that money, with no questions ask for how to use it, so they give themselves million dollar bonus's. Everyone is in it for themselves. It is all sin. Every administration has it. We have been helping countries who hate us. People vote a certain way because it helps their bias agenda's. All because of sin. It happened, and will continue to happen in every country until God is ready to brings His wrath, and does away with sin.
---Mark_V. on 8/14/11


Christians answer with worldly answers. First, every president is in power by permission of God. No one is in power without permission. Second, it's sin that brings countries to the point they are in. Greed, power, and control. Everyone in office no matter who is in, has an agenda. Their own agenda. Their own sinful purposes. Yet God says, "He changes the times and the seasons, He removeth kings, and setteth up kings" Daniel 2:21. "Shall evil befall a city, and Jehovah hath not done it?" Amos 3:6. "The kings heart is in the hand of Jehovah as the watercourses, He turneth it whithersoever He will" Prov. 21:1. "Of Him, and through Him, and unto Him are all things" Rom. 11:36.
---Mark_V. on 8/14/11


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Now allow me a question, has it gotten worse and grown to mammoth proportions with Obama?
---paul on 8/13/11

Yes.

However, I could say the same thing for EVERY person who has ever lived. From the time of Adam & Eve to today.

The Bible says that we're all imperfect and sinful.

The sins, and problems, flowing from our Nation's leaders are more visible or apparent than our own.

Hopefully, other people will learn from President Obama what NOT to do.

For Example, don't try to borrow your way out of debt. It just doesn't work!
---Sag on 8/14/11


\\Now allow me a question, has it gotten worse and grown to mammoth proportions with Obama?\\

Yes.

But the national debt would have grown just as greatly regardless of WHO was president, I think.

Remember, the president does not make laws. He merely signs or vetoes the bills that Congress passes.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/14/11


ALLOW ME ONE QUESTION PLEASE

Did the moral and financial decline of america start with presedent Obama?

PLEASE, as christians answer HONESTLY?
---Francis on 8/13/11



Absolutely not, It did not start with Obama.

Now allow me a question, has it gotten worse and grown to mammoth proportions with Obama?

Paul
---paul on 8/13/11


ALLOW ME ONE QUESTION PLEASE

Did the moral and financial decline of america start with presedent Obama?

PLEASE, as christians answer HONESTLY?
---Francis on 8/13/11


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//Look at presidents in recent memory, Republicans all increased the debt, while Democrats all had surpluses. Why?//

every administration has a surplus and a deficit. netted together, they are all deficits. however, the media reports the deficit of one administration and the surplus of another.

unaware... many lap it up.
---aka on 8/13/11


\\What the USA needs to do is REPENT of it's evil ways and DECIDE to turn back to GOD.\\

Are you saying that salvation comes through the political process, and that the right party in power can change things?

If God is the One Who rules the world, then it doesn't matter who exercises the earthly power, as God's purposes cannot be thwarted.

Besides, to drag strangers into this blog, Jesus said, "My Kingdom is NOT of this world."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/13/11


Amen Rhonda, america is truly a cess pool of ungodliness, immorality, greed and everything in between.
---shira_3877 on 8/13/11


today america is a cess pool of immorality hate irresponsibility socialism and RULED by liberal agenda that HATES Gods ways ...the punishment will be captivity just like Israel
---Rhonda on 8/13/11

How True!

Debating over: Who Is, and Who Is Not, -- RIGHT -- and all the reasons, is of little meaning to GOD.

What the USA needs to do is REPENT of it's evil ways and DECIDE to turn back to GOD.

Unfortunately, people make the wrong decision to continue in their evil ways. Destruction follows. The Bible explains how that happened to Israel. Once GOD's bride.

Same thing happened to the Roman and British Empires. The signs seem to point towards the USA's going that route too someday.
---Sag on 8/13/11


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obama is a puppet used by those in POWER

the decline of America is Gods judgment foretold in prophecy

America was once the most blessed nation on earth ...these blessing CAME from GOD not man

today america is a cess pool of immorality hate irresponsibility socialism and RULED by liberal agenda that HATES Gods ways ...the punishment will be captivity just like Israel

nobody on earth believes america is in power anymore - whatever power remains is because no nation has stepped forward YET

when europe unites under ONE government co-ruled by the vatican government THEN the real judgement will begin
---Rhonda on 8/13/11


cheryl_Andrew:

Even though Congress passes laws, the President signs them or vetoes them. A law he signs requires a 51% majority of Congress to pass, otherwise a 66% majority. Since most successful votes are in the low 50s, the President ultimately decides which bills become law and which ones don't.


shira_3877:

Where do foreigners get social security checks, Lexuses and free phones? That is ridiculous, and if it's happening, I would very much like to hear where. A country should taike care of its own citizens first.

(I am a Canadian living in the United States, with a green card, and I have paid my fair share of taxes over the years, and never received any special treatment, including government handouts).
---StrongAxe on 8/13/11


I think we both agree that you need to pay for things, especially big things like wars.

It is easier to sell the public on a war, if no one is taxed to pay for it, and if no one is drafted to fight in it.

---atheist on 8/12/11

Our "Beliefs" might be DIFFERENT, but our "Understanding of things" is the SAME.

Hmmm.

Funny how I seem to get along better with a self-proclaimed ATHEIST in a virtual context -- this computer blog -- than I do with some BELIEVERS -- in person, at church.

I think that that speaks -- LOUD and CLEAR -- that church goers need to work at getting along better.
---Sag on 8/13/11


Why does everyone blame the president for the wrongs in this country? He may make policies, But our house and senate are the ones who pass the laws, reforms, tax hikes, and use our money for their personal wants in the state they are in.
---cheryl_Andrew on 8/13/11


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aka, I am a born again christian. If you aren't born again, you cannot enter heaven. Born again means born of the spirit. Born of water is the natural birth. That is what Bush means by born again. It is really very simple. God isn't complicated, He is God. His Word will always stand.
---shira_3877 on 8/13/11


why does the government give foreigners a social security displacement check every month that more than doubles what I get? why do they get free housing, free hospital, free schools, and have brand new cars...some of which are Lexus'? When the government stops giving away everything free for the ones who are too lazy to work, we could afford to protect our country. I believe in helping people who work but don't have so don't get me wrong here. I am just sick and tired of foreigners taking taking and taking.Now, they are giving away free phones so people can call their grandchildren or call their bosses if they are going TO BE LATE FOR WORK. WOW, isn't that great. Why not just go to work and be on time.
---shira_3877 on 8/13/11


It was specifically Barney Franks..
---John on 8/12/11

John, I love your revisionist history. You obviously have never read the law. Nothing in it "forced" anyone to make loans to people who could not pay them back. In fact it specifcally required them to "make a reasonable and good faith effort based on verified and documented information that at the time the loan is consummated, the consumer has a reasonable ability to repay the loan." You want to blame someone, blame the banks who made the loans.

Bush tax cuts kept us out of a depression??? Where do you get this? Your "facts" are fantasy.
---NurseRobert on 8/13/11


Look at presidents in recent memory, Republicans all increased the debt, while Democrats all had surpluses.-StrongAxe on 8/12/11
This is an outright lie.
Either you are very misinformed, StrongAxe, or dillusionally biased.
The last time the outstanding debt of this country fell was in 1957.
Also, Congress is the one that approves the budget, not the president.
The smallest increase in the national debt recently was in 2000.
The 2 largest increases were 2010 and 2011 budgets.
2000 had a Republican led congress and a Democratic president.
2010 and 2011 had a Democratic led congress and a Democratic president.
---micha9344 on 8/13/11


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Sag,

Sorry but I am an atheist....

But I think we both agree that you need to pay for things, especially big things like wars.

It is easier to sell the public on a war, if no one is taxed to pay for it, and if no one is drafted to fight in it.

So the solution was to borrow to pay for two wars. Extend the service time and frequency of troop rotations for the brave Americans who volunteered for service, and to hire private contractors to provide services that in past wars were performed by military personnel. Of course when our soldiers make it home the medical and other care their deserve is also expensive.

When we are crushed by debt, blame it on the other party...
---atheist on 8/12/11


//please find out what Bush meant by being "born-again".//

hint: skull-n-bones
---aka on 8/12/11


Francis...

//They are purposley being difficult in hopes that Presedent Obam will be a one term presendent.// ---Francis on 8/12/11

a maneuver perfected by the Democrats in previous administrations
---aka on 8/12/11


If it were not for the Bush taxcuts we would be in a depression.

That is why Obama continued them to save his butt!

---John on 8/12/11

Everybody has been led to believe that lower taxes are THE answer to every problem out there. Expect that they are NOT.

LOWER taxes led to the USA's HIGHER deficits. Which resulted in LOWER credit ratings within 10 years. The USA is now closer than ever to National bankruptcy.

Unless there is a tax increase, how will the USA ever pay back it's 15+ TRILLION debt?

IMO, I think that the Bush tax cuts were a big mistake.
---Sag on 8/12/11


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Look at presidents in recent memory, Republicans all increased the debt, while Democrats all had surpluses. Why?

Democrats love to spend - but ALSO realize someone has to pay, so they raise taxes.

On the other hand, Republicans want to reduce government. Despite this, George W. Bush created TSA and spent billions in Iraq, yet still opposed taxes. Spending money without raising revenue creates a deficit.

The whole U.S. economic mess is a direct result of the reckless fiscal policies of the Bush administration. Sure the bailouts cost a lot of money, but remember they started while Bush was still in office, and without them, we would likely have had yet another 1929-style depression instead.
---StrongAxe on 8/12/11


Jerry,

I've lived long enough to remember one thing when it comes to politics.

Whoever is in office is just as imperfect as yourself. Bet you couldn't do any better than they are. That includes Obama.

Instead of complaining, trying to find faults, spreading rumors and gossip, etc. pray for them. Whether they are democratic, republican, or independent.

The Holy Bible commands us to do just that in 1 Timothy 2:1-2.

There are many other verses in the Bible about this. I'm sure that God would prefer you follow these instead of debating about Obama, Biden, Clinton, etc.
---Augie on 8/12/11


No the GOP and the TEA party is doing so. They are purposley being difficult in hopes that Presedent Obam will be a one term presendent.

Like the Dems did with Bush. It is the process and lifestyle of Washington. Everybody is trying to get on top.
---Scott1 on 8/12/11


As King David (no mean politician himself) said, "Put not your trust in princes [or politicians], in sons of men, in whom is NO salvation."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/12/11


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I've NEVER gotten a clear response from a Republican about just HOW the U.S. got into it's mess in the first place.

George W. Bush tax cuts?
---Sag on 8/12/11

No SAG!
It was specifically Barney Franks and the Democratic congress when they changed FannieMai and forced them to offer morgages to people who were not qualfied(Deadbeats).

The Democrats knew they would not be able to pay back. So the mortgage industry collapsed.

This is what started the decline. THOSE ARE THE FACTS. LOOK IT UP!

If it were not for the Bush taxcuts we would be in a depression.

That is why Obama continued them to save his butt!

I HAVE A LOT TO SAY ON THIS BLOG! but I'm sure being censured. Too much fire!
---John on 8/12/11


"Purposely" would mean President Obama is knowingly trying to cause America to go down. I don't think he can make the United States go down unless other government people cooperate with this, plus the American citizens go along with it and cooperate however. For example, you could make laws allowing house loans to people who obviously can't afford houses. But this can't work unless people take out those loans. President Obama does not make Americans foolish enough to go along with down things. We fool our own selves???
---Bill_willa6989 on 8/12/11


Is Obama purposely engineering the decline of the American Republic?
---jerry6593 on 8/11/11
No the GOP and the TEA party is doing so. They are purposley being difficult in hopes that Presedent Obam will be a one term presendent.
---Francis on 8/12/11


Obama is promoting the advancement of the American Democracy, support him.
---Eloy on 8/12/11


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thanks darlene, that was real sweet of you. You of course are right. God bless
---shira_3877 on 8/12/11


NO he has figured out that if he stands for nothing he cannot be defined. If somethings bad happens it was someone else fought for defining themselves to that bad event. All politicians to some extend have done this.
---Scott1 on 8/12/11


Shira I doubt anyone really pays much attention to what he says. Christians know the shepard of their soul and his name is Jesus and like regular sheep we follow no other.I know you know,the Word of God doesn't return void. No mater what a persons intentions Gods will and Word is stronger and empty words spoken by anyone burst like bubbles and float into nothingness.
---Darlene_1 on 8/12/11


If atheist was a christian, he would not mock God. Don't be deceived by atheist, he is here to cause division. Anyone who mocks God will face harsh judgement.
---shira_3877 on 8/12/11


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Our Apostle Paul says, of a secular leader, "he is God's minister to you for good," in Romans 13:4, and pray "for" those in authority, in 1 Timothy 2:2. So, I understand that God wants us to have hope in prayer "for" secular leaders, and take advantage of however they are "for good".

But Isaiah 14:12 calls Satan "You who weakened the nations!" Satan does not try to destroy countries, but keep them weak, including by division and keeping attention away from God. So, ones making a project of criticizing President Obama can be helping keep attention away from "things above" (see Colossians 3:2).
---Bill_willa6989 on 8/12/11


Look at the legacies of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Unforgettable. ---Sag on 8/11/11

please find out what Bush meant by being "born-again".

reagan seems to be an anomaly.

search Genealogical relationships of Presidents of the United States
---aka on 8/12/11


Atheist:

As a former Republican, I can say that you are correct. And I sense that you a Believer. Not an Atheist.

Democrats are the "Party of the World".

Republicans are the "Party of GOD, Family, and Conservative Values".

Ask some Church people about the political circus going on. Most likely, their response will be something like:

"GOD is unhappy with President Obama. HE has raised Michele Bachman to restore HIS values to the White House . . ."

However, I've NEVER gotten a clear response from a Republican about just HOW the U.S. got into it's mess in the first place.

George W. Bush tax cuts?

Expensive, endless, wars?

Unfunded Medicare Part D?
---Sag on 8/12/11


//Council on Foreign Relations????//

Hillary Clinton, at the Council on Foreign Relations on July 15, 2009.
"We get a lot of advice from the Council, so this will mean I won't have as far to go to be told what we should be doing and how we should think about the future."
---aka on 8/11/11


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IF Michele's prophecy comes true, the U.S. should experience a miraculous turn-around....---Sag on 8/11/11

Okay. So does that make Michele Bachmann a prophet of god, and does god perform miracles for Republican Presidents only?

And contrarily, is god punishing the U.S. because Obama was elected?
---atheist on 8/11/11


I watched the debate between former Minnesota Governor Timothy Pawlenty, and Minnesota Senator Michele Bachmann.

Boy Oh Boy, can two Republicans tough it out.

Michele loudly shouted that President Obama will be DONE at the end of 2012.

IF Michele's prophecy comes true, the U.S. should experience a miraculous turn-around once a Republican President is elected. Right?

I can't wait to see the results. Look at the legacies of Ronald Reagan and George W. Bush. Unforgettable.
---Sag on 8/11/11


but, only the CFR knows for sure.
---aka on 8/11/11

Council on Foreign Relations????



I think it is almost too late to reverse what obama has done. He has done exactly what he intended to do when he took office.---shira_3877 on 8/11/11

What exactly has he done that it is too late to be undone?

How do you know what he intended to do? Does this differ what you believe he said he was going to try to do?

I find it odd that you all not only have a different take on what god wants, but have certainty about what others believe and want.

Each of you seems to claim omnipotence, but none-the-less can agree on nothing.
---atheist on 8/11/11


If marriage was invented by God, why should the state get involved?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/11/11

Sorry about that Cluny, once more I have failed to make my point that we have enjoyed a great governmental structure with success for a very long time, or did I? lol



Paul
---paul on 8/11/11


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Really Jerry,

For someone to answer your question they must me able to read Obama's mind, that the decline of the American Republic could be engineered by anyone, and even worse---that such a terrible thing would be permitted by your all knowing and loving god.

This seems to be a bit of political hate-mongering on your part. But then again, I can't know your mind or purpose, and so maybe you believe this to be a legitimate question.
---atheist on 8/11/11


\\And part of his change is the form of government that we have enjoyed for 235 years, with great success mind you.\\

The U. S. Constitution went into effect after the ratification of nine states. George Washington wasn't sworn in as the first President under the Constitution until 1792, so that means our form of national government is only 220 years old, not 235.

Last I heard, the Constitution is still in effect.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/11/11


I think it is almost too late to reverse what obama has done. He has done exactly what he intended to do when he took office. He said he went to columbia university but why has no so called classmates know him? why does his professors don't know him? why don't they have a record of his enrollment. Something is wrong with this picture. just saying.
---shira_3877 on 8/11/11


i think obama is conducting and providing maintenance for what is written. the first glimpse that we get of the engineer is in the third chapter of Genesis.

part of that decline are those who conduct and maintain false religions also engineered a long time ago.

in addition, i think that most kings (presidents) and princes (governors, congresspeople, and representatives) hold as much culpability if not more.

but, only the CFR knows for sure.
---aka on 8/11/11


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At this point I don't know if their are many people who don't see what his over all idea of change is.

And part of his change is the form of government that we have enjoyed for 235 years, with great success mind you.

I think his call for change is what will inevitably be his own demise, for people are wanting to CHANGE the direction he is attempting to go.

Paul
---paul on 8/11/11


It sure looks that way, doesn't it? I honestly don't think he knows what to do at this point.

He hasn't done anything to help the economy like CUT SPENDING. We give the Oil Companies BILLIONS of dollars of our tax money and they don't need it, but because they threatened to increase gas prices to $18 a gallon, Congress agreed to continue to give them BILLIONS in subsidiaries...that's ridiculous. Why isn't Obama taking that money away from the Oil companies? They are greedy and will pay on Judgement day- there are starving people out there, why not tell Congress to give the money to feed the hungry?
---Donna5535 on 8/11/11


I Don't Know.

However, after all the budget stonewalling -- in both St. Paul, Minnesota and Washington, D.C. -- it appears that the Republicans are the ones who are engineering the decline of the American Republic.

The very behvavior of some Republican figure heads -- Arnold Schwarzenegger, Newt Gingrich, Larry Craig -- illustrates what Hypocrites the Republicans have become.

I'd say that the Republicans are WORSE than Obama. They no longer are the party of conservative Christian and Family values.

Newt Gingrich joined MY Church. The Catholic Church. Can't Complain. After all, it's THE one true church.
---Sag on 8/11/11


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