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Is the tea party a portrait of what Americans have the right to be, our own people with a significant voice?

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Jed: While I disagree with abortion, your comment about Obama has one big problem. The highest authority in this country (NOT THE PRESIDENT) decided that abortion is NOT a violation of the right to life. I don't know WHY it decided that, but it did

In case you don't know, the highest authority in this country is the Supreme Court
---Mark on 10/3/11


The constitution was designed to limit government and defend individual rights. Not increase government and trample individual rights.
---Jed on 10/3/11


While I have not actually HEARD THEM say this, I think that some, at least are disinclinced to give all people the right to believe in whatever belief system they want (separation of state and church).
Your view on this?
---Maria on 9/27/11

Maria, I think you have the wrong idea about the tea party. Nobody's religios beliefs have been mocked and trampled as much as theirs have.

By the way, "separation of church and state" is not found any where in the constitution. The freedom to openly practice your religion is.
---Jed on 10/3/11


There are Americans who claim to believe that the "Boston Tea Party" was motivated by the desire of patriotic Americans to have a truly representative government. That, of course, cannot have been true because Americans have not had a truly representative government for more than one hundred years after American independence.

That is to say that none of the forefathers ever presided over a national government which was voted into office by the majority of citizens.

So much for desiring what the forefathers intended.
---Allan on 10/3/11


Instead, you two have hijacked the thread and accomplished nothing..
--NurseRobert 10/3/11
But I have accomplished something. I have shown that what Jed wrote on 3 different posts on this thread (and 9 posts on other ones) is absolutely wrong - not a matter of interpretation but flat wrong. And because of those and subsequent lies, distortions, and his disgusting name calling, Jed has revealed his true nature and shown the lies, poor judgment, and vindictiveness that lie behind his posts. All that is necessary for evil to prevail is for good people to do nothing. It is not wrong to expose lies, but wrong to let them pass unchallenged and unexposed.
---Rocky on 10/3/11




They have run away from the Constitution.
---jerry6593 on 10/3/11
How? Sec 8: "The Congress shall have Power To... provide for the common Defence and general Welfare... To regulate Commerce". Protecting the environment is not unconstitutional, but a basic necessity we must require of government since the greed of businesses compels them to pollute.
---Rocky on 10/3/11


I am surprised you have not taken issue with them.
---Rocky on 10/2/11

Why should I? There are people on this site (and I have to admit that there have been times when I've been one of them) who would rather use personal attacks instead of facts. It doesn't solve anything. Instead, you two have hijacked the thread and accomplished nothing..
---NurseRobert on 10/3/11


As a Senator, Obama voted four times in support of a bill that would allow babies who survived an unsuccessful abortion attempt to be killed after they were born, simply because killing the baby was the intent of the mother. Furthermore, Obama continues to be an advocate for tax-funded abortions-on-demand. The first human right ever listed in an American document is the right to life in the Declaration of Independence, 12 years before the constitution was written. Now tell me Democrats want to defend our human rights.
---Jed on 10/3/11


Rocky: "What does that mean???"

They have run away from the Constitution.
---jerry6593 on 10/3/11


take back control of our country from a runaway government, just like our founders intended.
---jerry6593 10/1/11
What does that mean??? The "runaway" government is leaders elected to office like our founders intended. Take back from who? The leaders duly elected by the citizens of our country as provided in the Constitution? "Take back control of the government" is obviously hype propaganda designed to appeal to non-thinkers. And invoking the founding fathers is just more propaganda. George Washington spoke several times condemning the political parties, he thought they had no place in our political system. Its sad when patriotism is misused and claimed as if one group's sole province.
---Rocky on 10/2/11




You both should go back and read what you have written.
---NurseRobert on 10/1/11
I have. And Jed still has not provided any support for his misleading claims on 8/17, 9/27 and 9/28 on this thread. Instead all he has done is tell lies to hide the fact that his statements were wrong and made several disgusting personal attacks on me. I may choose to respond to his lies as long as he keeps making them, and to protest his disgusting personal attacks. I am surprised you have not taken issue with them.
---Rocky on 10/2/11


You all know I like a good debate, but Jed and Rocky, you two sound like a couple of children squealing about who said what to who first...

You both should go back and read what you have written.
---NurseRobert on 10/1/11


You don't even know how to debate and you obviously have some serious problems that go deeper than your beliefs here.
---Jed on 9/30/11
More lies. Surprise Surprise. First making personal attacks, like you have repeatedly, isn't proper debate. Second, not responding to challenges about your supposed evidence and instead lying to evade the truth, repeatedly, isn't proper debate. Oh the irony. Your attacking me on those points is just proof you are the one that does not know how to debate. Stop the lies and evasion and provide support for the 12 original posts or confess your lies, apologize, and repent for your false witness.
---Rocky on 10/1/11


And then you accuse them of lies and distorions when they school you and you are proven wrong with scriptures and facts.
--Jed 9/30/11
I have made many posts and I seldom accuse others of lies and distortions as you allege. You are lying again. You are the only one I have encountered that lies repeatedly. Arguing that how I respond to you is just how I treat everyone is bogus. And I have never felt as though I was being schooled and acknowledge if and when proven wrong. Your trying to make it appear as if everyone has been saying I am wrong is just more distortion and poor debate technique on your part. Stick with the subject. Shame on you.
---Rocky on 10/1/11


rocky, I have never seen such childish behavior. I don't need to read any blog that promotes harry potter or better yet hairy potty. It is witchcraft like most other movies coming out of hollywood. witchcraft, devil worship is all the same. It is of satan.
---shira4368 on 10/1/11


"Is the tea party a portrait of what Americans have the right to be, our own people with a significant voice?"

Yes! It is the singular best example I've seen in my 69 years in the US of "We, the People" trying to take back control of our country from a runaway government - just like our founders intended. It is a reminder to the politians that they work for us - not we for them.
---jerry6593 on 10/1/11


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The tea party has as much right as the democratic or republican party...at least it stands for integrity which is something we don't see anymore.
---shira4368 on 10/2/11


Now, after reading the blogs, I got the distinct impression that neither accuracy nor truth is of any significance in the various exchanges.

First, the so-call Tea Party is not christian, it is not Biblical and it is not democratic. The whole thrust of the Tea Party's diffused message is to return America to some never-existed utopian age and branding anyone who disagrees with its position, as either unamerican, ungodly or both.

Yet, I have to remind present day Americans that most of the citizens of the new American nation were not allowed to vote in national elections. For the first one hundred years, no president was elected by the common citizens of the country.
---Allan on 10/2/11


You post your own opinion as if it is gospel.
---Jed on 9/30/11
I never post my own opinion as gospel on gospel matters. I understand and respect doctrinal differences. But I also know that not all differences fall into that category and some result from misinterpretations or a lack of knowledge of scripture. I also see nothing wrong with inquiring about anothers interpretation or understanding. But there are some facts I know - like there is absolutely no evidence that Alaska has more oil that the entire Middle East - and will directly challenge liars when I encounter them. I give them an opportunity to prove me wrong, but usually they can't and instead lie to cover-up and make slimy personal attacks on me.
---Rocky on 9/30/11


Rocky, I have read through the other posts on these threads. Most of them disagree with you, and you argue with many on this blog. "Do you follow all the Old Testament Commandments?" is a question that I have seen you post to others several times in a divisive manner. And then you accuse them of lies and distorions when they school you and you are proven wrong with scriptures and facts. You post your own opinion as if it is gospel. I'm done with arguing with you man. You don't even know how to debate and you obviously have some serious problems that go deeper than your beliefs here.
---Jed on 9/30/11


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Rocky, others have read those posts and no one agrees with you. You don't see how mental your sounding to every one right now. Your just not right man.
---Jed on 9/30/11
Not one agrees with me? You have inquired of everyone reading this blog? Do you even know the names of everyone that read this blog? Your claim is obviously another lie for which you cannot provide support. The rest is just a continuation of your childish, disgusting personal attacks that say loads about your character but nothing about mine.
---Rocky on 9/30/11


Rocky, others have read those posts and no one agrees with you. You don't see how mental your sounding to every one right now. Your just not right man.
---Jed on 9/30/11


Rocky, Please consider getting some help. Do it for your family and those around you. Just talking with a professional could help you with all that you're feeling. But please make sure it is a psychiatrist, not a psychologist, because you may need some medication.
---Jed on 9/29/11

Jed, you have to demand he do the opposite. Then he will go to spite you. (Remember raising the kids)
No doctor alive or ever lived that can fix blind or deaf. Except one. Poser's his hope.

2 Corinthians 3:14
But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament, which vail is done away in Christ.
---Trav on 9/30/11


Rocky, none of those posts of yours are proof or evidence in any way. They are simply statements of your assumptions and misguided beliefs. You have proved nothing by simply arguing a point that has no solid base.
---Jed on 9/29/11
Fine, you stick with that. I am happy to let others read and see where I have shown you wrong or challenged an obviously outlandish or bogus claim. And they know that you refuse to defend or support a single one of those claims you made, but instead attack me to deflect attention when you cannot defend or support what you wrote. Oh, and please see How Much Oil blog where I proved you wrong on the oil reserve issue too
---Rocky on 9/29/11


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Rocky, please, for your own sake. Please consider getting some help. Do it for your family and those around you. Just talking with a professional could help you with all that you're feeling. But please make sure it is a psychiatrist, not a psychologist, because you may need some medication.
---Jed on 9/29/11
Your childish, bogus personal attack only proves your own immaturity and only demeans yourself. And again proves how you grossly distort things and care not about truth. If you had a spec of credibility left before you lost it here.
---Rocky on 9/29/11


Rocky, none of those posts of yours are proof or evidence in any way. They are simply statements of your assumptions and misguided beliefs. You have proved nothing by simply arguing a point that has no solid base.
---Jed on 9/29/11


Rocky, please, for your own sake. Please consider getting some help. Do it for your family and those around you. Just talking with a professional could help you with all that you're feeling. But please make sure it is a psychiatrist, not a psychologist, because you may need some medication.
---Jed on 9/29/11


Rocky, you do not provide any proof or evidence that what I have said is wrong.
---Jed on 9/29/11
Wow. More lies. Look on my responses on this thread to your posts on 8/17, 9/27/ and 9/28. I showed how you were wrong and you never responded on any of the three. Further the burden is on the one making the original assertion. How can I provide proof that no one ever said what you allege? You made the assertion and I asked for proof. Where is it? I listed 12 posts where you lied or made gross distortions and you have not provided adequate support for any. To evade the question you attack me personally. Instead, show me wrong - support your statements.
---Rocky on 9/29/11


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Nope, no emotion there at all.
---Jed on 9/29/11
Even your sarcasm is a lie. No, there was not any emotion there. Your are projecting your own and apparently don't understand the simple meaning of words, or how someone can point out how stupid someone else is being without themselves being angry. And you continue to make personal attacks on me rather than trying to defend or support a single one of your lies and distortions that I listed. Shame on you. Show me wrong - support your statements. Try just one - anyone - you pick.
---Rocky on 9/29/11


Rocky, you do not provide any proof or evidence that what I have said is wrong. You just continue to spew the same junk we heard from the liberal mainstream media. So should I also call you liar, stupid, lazy, and tell you shame on you as you have done to me and so many others here when you feel they do not provide proof of their statements?
---Jed on 9/29/11


I agree one party has many Christian values, and it is the Democratic Party with a strong desire to help the less fortunate.
---Rocky on 9/29/11

The top three wealthiest senators are Democrats:
8 of 10 Wealthiest Congressmen are DEMOCRATS

Yeah, your're party helps poor. Approve/defend finance killing the unborn. Promoting the efeminates (most laws submitted/approved and passed by your master,ole poser)
You just keep coming into the light a little more every post.
Malachi 2:17
Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them, or, Where is the God of judgment?
---Trav on 9/29/11


"What kind of dope are you smoking?" -Rocky 9/28/11
"What poppycock and dangerous distortion." -Rocky 9/28/11
"Using etc. in such situation is both lazy and stupid." -Rocky 9/28/11
"Shame on you for putting words in her mouth and then attacking YOUR words." -Rocky 9/27/11
"Your comments are wrong and stupid." -Rocky 9/27/11
"Unbelievable. Distorting again. Shame on you!" -Rocky 9/27/11

Nope, no emotion there at all. Just cold hard facts, LOL. This must also be the Christ-like love and truth that your God is so proud of you for proclaiming. Nice work, sure to convert the unbelievers with this.
---Jed on 9/29/11


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Rocky, what I read from you was anger.
-Mark_V 9/29/11
What words or sentences indicated anger? I disagreed with some of what TP stands for, but my disagreement was intellectual and said nothing emotional. I neither stated nor implied any emotions. Your reading anger was totally your projecting your emotions. I doubt that "everyone else did" read it the same. I know what I stated was opinion and others have theirs. I agree one party has many Christian values, and it is the Democratic Party with a strong desire to help the less fortunate. I also agree the other does not, the Republican Party, the party of big business, that clearly values money and retaining wealth much higher than loving and helping others.
---Rocky on 9/29/11


See HARRY POTTER BLOG 9/23, INTERFAITH CONFERENCES 9/21, 9/22 (3 posts), DIVORCE IN PROCESS 9/21, 9/23

In every post cited Jed obviously lied and/or grossly distorted facts
---Rocky on 9/28/11


Psalm 69:5
O God, thou knowest my foolishness, and my sins are not hid from thee.

We'll stand before GOD. He'll sort it out.

You trying to amalgamate,sell us struggling Christians, hairy potty, and buddha will be interesting. Especially with honoring abomination principles for icing.

Jed and I won't be laughing. We'll have our own problems.

Dance tiny dancer, dance. The old heads see hear and shake their heads. Just how old R ya anyway? 15-19?
---Trav on 9/29/11


Rocky, what I read from you was anger. Maybe you don't recognize it as such, but I'm sure everyone else did, unless they support you view. Sometimes those who support the view of others, do it at the expense of the Truth. Everyone here has an opinion. Maybe it is wrong and you can say it is. The blog is not speaking about Scripture but politics. No one knows everything about politics so they give their opinions. I don't know what party you support, or what is your reason for answering. As I remember, there is two major parties. One has many Christian values in it, the other doesn't. Check out "The Center for Law and Justice" get information, but don't get angry.
---Mark_V. on 9/29/11


You got Rocky so hot, if you saw him in person his face would be all red with anger.
---Mark_V. on 9/28/11
You are wrong, Mark. I neither was nor am the least bit angry. First the blog started on 8/16 and I just ignored it for over a month until 9/27. I only posted then because Trav made some statements about the USA, republics, democracy, and socialism that were flat wrong. I responded to correct his errors which had nothing directly to do with TP. Then I corrected another distortion by Jed about the Constitution and only then finally decided while on the page to post about TP. I enjoy a good political discussion, but find the quality here very low.
---Rocky on 9/28/11


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Rocky, nice Christ-like responses. Calling people "stupid", "lazy", "liar", "shame on you". Your God, whoever that may be, must be very proud.
---Jed on 9/28/11
I believe in speaking the honest truth, that is what I reported. I tried first responding on the merits of your posts, but your lies and distortions continued. I pointed out that you were lying and distorting, and you continued. Never defending what you had written before or providing any evidence to show you right and me wrong (because your comments are indefensible lies and distortions) but moving on to a new lies. Like now, you cannot disapprove what I said so you instead attack the words I use. But those words are true facts.
---Rocky on 9/28/11


Paul, I believe by posting the question, you only tempted many to reach a point that causes them to sin. You already knew before you posted that many would not agree with you. And that political questions cause strive between believers. It brings no edification for anyone. It only shows who is for what side. And of course they will never agree. You got Rocky so hot, if you saw him in person his face would be all red with anger. What possible good answer did you expect now where you have people answering from other countries? Politics is an arena where Christian values are on one side, and everyone else's values are on the other side. Yet many Christians do not see it that way, other things are more important to them, and go to the other side.
---Mark_V. on 9/28/11


I bet your God, whoever that may be, is very proud.
--Jed 9/28/11
I am sure he is because I have stood for truth against your repeated lies and distortions. My God demands truth, what kind of God do you worship that allows lying time and time again? If you could defend what you said then you should try, but instead you make empty, personal attacks on me that only again shows how you lie and distort. You try to turn attention from you old lies since you can't show them true, but in doing so you only lie again, proving me right again. Shame on you again.
---Rocky on 9/28/11


Rocky, nice Christ-like responses. When I think the people on these blogs can't get any more rude, you come along with all your "stupid", "lazy", "liar", "distortion", and "shame on you". I bet your God, whoever that may be, is very proud.
---Jed on 9/28/11


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Jed's credibility can only be measured by seeing his numerous lies and gross distortions across numerous posts and threads. Here's a sampling of his recent posts which I showed to have lies and gross distortions:

TEA PARTY BLOG
ideas that founded this country, are Biblical ideas.
---9/28/11
See also 9/27 and 8/17

HOW MUCH OIL BLOG
Evidence shows that Alaska alone may have more oil than the entire middle east,
--9/27/11
If American's tapped our resources, we could live completely independent of foreign energy.
--9/27/11

See HARRY POTTER BLOG 9/23, INTERFAITH CONFERENCES 9/21, 9/22 (3 posts), DIVORCE IN PROCESS 9/21, 9/23

In every post cited Jed obviously lied and/or grossly distorted facts
---Rocky on 9/28/11


this country was founded on Biblical principles. The very ideas of freedom, liberty, individual rights, and equality, the ideas that founded this country, are Biblical ideas.
---Jed on 9/28/11
What kind of dope are you smoking? There isn't any more about those ideas in the Bible than in many other religions, philosophies, and people. Was slavery in the Bible and in America a good example of the freedom, liberty and equality of which you speak? The OT is all about a chosen people, apparently the only one on Earth to be given prophets and God's law. Where is the equality?
How are countries lead by kings and prophets about freedom, liberty and individual rights?
What poppycock and dangerous distortion.
---Rocky on 9/28/11


Nurse Robert no problem in posting your replies. I believed that once you took a step back you would not have wanted us to post your prior reply in full as worded.

As to the other post, I can see from several posts that several people have their minds made up regardless of the facts. I happen to be an expert on financial matters and realize that the information you believe is incorrect and it truly bothers me for someone to be misled regardless of the political party. I don't listen to either party on those issues since they are both loaded with half truths.

God bless and enjoy the site!
---Moderator on 9/28/11


neither the democratic or even republican party represent anymore such as heterosexual marriages, anti-abortion, working for what you have, defense of self, family, and country, justice, etc.
--Jed 8/17/11
This is another example of your stating GROSS DISTORTIONS. The Republican Party stands for heterosexual marriage and is anti-abortion. Both parties favor working for what you have, defense of self, family, and country, justice, and especially they both favor many different "etc." Using "etc." in such situation is both lazy and stupid.
---Rocky on 9/28/11


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Elder, thank you.. sometimes I get frustrated and need to take a break from CN. Look at the "Tax Cuts Create Jobs" blog. Not only do I have to fight against you right wingers, but also moderators who only post half the story. (sorry, I had to put than in there :} ). Sometimes, God tells me to walk away. I won't be gone long, though.. how else can we keep things in balance!

Rocky, thanks you but not necessary. Jed and I will never see eye to eye politically, but thats ok. Jed, I haven't forgotten about you. I will be back to answer your questions. Assuming the mods will post them.


And by the way, it's Nurse ROBERT. Contrary to what people may post on here, men can be nurses too.

God Bless, people.
---NurseRobert on 9/28/11


Nurse Robert, good having you back. I was sleepy with no one to holler with me.
We both know that you are smarter than the post you planted here. You know the Article and Amendment you posted was to keep the government from establishing any state religion. The framers had left that lifestyle.
I know, as a Church Planter, the government interferes enough as it is. Only a loose brained liberal that doesn't care about churches and ministries would want more.
Sometimes the negative is really the positive. There shall be no state religion, that cannot be spun into, "the framers being against organized worship establishments." This is especially true since each state has reference to the providence of God in their preamble.
---Elder on 9/28/11


NurseRoberts, I'm not arguing with the freedom of religion, I hold that to be one of the most important parts of the constitution. Neither am I suggesting that the founding fathers wanted America to be only christian, they obviously didn't as proved by the parts of the constitution you quoted. I simply stated that this country was founded on Biblical principles. The very ideas of freedom, liberty, individual rights, and equality, the ideas that founded this country, are Biblical ideas.
---Jed on 9/28/11


Which parts of the constitution do you think are not biblically based?
---Jed on 9/27/11

Article VI, para 3: no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

Amendment 1: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.....

If the founders wanted this to be a Christian nation don't you think they would have spelled that out. i.e. "All office holders are required to be of the Christian faith" or "The religion of the United States will be the Christian faith"?

Somehow, I see that missing from the Constitution.
---NurseRobert on 9/27/11


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Rocky, Firstly, I wasn't talking to you. Secondly, that is very rude of you to tell people "shame on you", especially when you are falsely acusing them of something. I never said that NurseRoberts wrote that the Constitution founded our country.
---Jed on 9/27/11
First, the board is open to all. What a stupid objection.
Second, no it's not rude to tell YOU shame on you when in post after post you shamefully distort what people say and provide misleading responses. I say again, shame on you!
Third, you're the one lying when you say I falsely accused you. You did write "NurseRoberts, the constitution did not found the U.S" which I only QUOTED in my post. Unbelievable. Distorting again. Shame on you!
---Rocky on 9/27/11


Jed: Would you care to inform us of which specific constitutional rights they want to take away from others?

While I have not actually HEARD THEM say this, I think that some, at least are disinclinced to give all people the right to believe in whatever belief system they want (separation of state and church).

Your view on this?
---Maria on 9/27/11


Rocky, for all the reasons you dislike the tea party, I love the tea party. Do you want America to be communist? That is where its headed now.
---shira4368 on 9/28/11


Rocky, Firstly, I wasn't talking to you. Secondly, that is very rude of you to tell people "shame on you", especially when you are falsely acusing them of something. I never said that NurseRoberts wrote that the Constitution founded our country.
---Jed on 9/27/11


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I oppose TP's push for government to be more like our capitalistic system which is driven by greed (each person working in their own self-interest) with output distributed by market supply-and-demand and no regard for equity. Their conservative principles reject using government for Christian principles of compassionately helping the poor, needy, and sick. They emphasize each person's right to property, without considering the true source of all material wealth. They preach against government control of business yet it is the weakness of controls that create our largest calamities like the current financial debacle. It is unfortunate the mainstream Republican Party lets this minority control it and have disproportionate influence in Congress.
---Rocky on 9/27/11


NurseRoberts, the constitution did not found the U.S., the Declaration of Indendence did... Which parts of the constitution do you think are not biblically based?
Jed 9/27/11
There you go distorting things again. NurseRoberts never wrote what the US Constitution founded the country. Shame on you for putting words in her mouth and then attacking YOUR words. And when she was asking "why doesn't our Constitution say that" it was founded on Biblical principles she was right. It does not say that. You are right too when you talk about Biblical influences, but your whole post is off in challenging NurseRoberts. You only discredit and embarrass yourself with such distortions.
---Rocky on 9/27/11


The USA is a Republic. Say the pledge of Allegiance...
Democracy is a form of socialism using mob or majority rule...
A republic...restricts the mob limiting their power.
--Trav 9/27/11
Your comments are wrong and stupid. First "republic" and "democracy" are not mutually exclusive terms. The US is a democracy and a republic. Democracy is not a form of socialism - the two terms are not even related. Democracy is a form of government based on rule by the governed, socialism is government ownership of production. You can have socialism within or without democracy and democracy with or without socialism. A democracy is a republic so to say a republic restricts the mob rule of a democracy makes no sense.
---Rocky on 9/27/11


Jed, I surely agree with you. Who do the democrats represent? Who do republicans represent? I am an avid supporter of the tea party.
---shira4368 on 9/27/11


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"Jed, tell us.. if the country is founded on Biblical principals, why doesn't our Constitution say that?" -NurseRobertson 9/27/11

NurseRoberts, the constitution did not found the U.S., the Declaration of Indendence did, in which our founders cited 27 Biblical violations, and acknowledged the existence of our creator. The consitution was written 11 years later and was formed by 55 men, 52 of which were active members of their church, which is why the consitution is filled with biblical principles. Which parts of the constitution do you think are not biblically based?
---Jed on 9/27/11


>"Your precious tea party wants to take away rights of others" -NurseRobert on 9/27/11

Would you care to inform us of which specific constitutional rights they want to take away from others? Please give the exact reference in the constitution to support your claims.

I don't think there is any party that want's to adhere to constitutional rights more than the tea party. That's why they are called conservatives, because they want conservative adherance to the constitution rather than a liberal one.
---Jed on 9/27/11


The Tea Party, like any group, has every right to be what it wants, and beleive what it wants.

Like all groups, though (in political terms) it must accept that some people will beleive other things. Sometimes I'm concerned that it may fail a little bit there. Some of its views are completely Christian, but others are just 'possibly Christian' and those don't need to be accepted by everyone
---Peter on 9/27/11


Is the tea party a portrait of what Americans have the right to be, our own people with a significant voice?

MODERATOR, " TEA PARTY BIBLICAL?" is NOT a good title for this question
---Francis on 9/27/11


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What I'm asking is does the tea party represent what our Democratic rights allow us to be.
---Paul on 8/16/11

I agree with you they are valid.
Democratic rights?
The USA is a Republic. Say the pledge of Allegiance.
Democracy is a form of socialism using mob or majority rule. The head of mob eating rich off the body.

We've had a couple of years example of the abomination of this in control.
A republic....restricts the mob limiting their power. Protecting the individual. Even ID 10 T's.

Any minority that realized this basic fact would flee the democratic liberal insanity being mob or majority driven.
---Trav on 9/27/11


I only mention this because I get so tired of people demonizing the tea party and acting as If it is some unconstitutional uprising of insurgency that desires a governmental overthrow.
---paul on 8/17/11

Paul, they are not unconstitutional, just misguided. Tea Partiers live in a "Leave it to Beaver" world that never existed. Like most political groups, they want things their way only. They think they are right and everyone else is wrong.

Jed, tell us.. if the country is founded on Biblical principals, why doesn't our Constitution say that? Your precious tea party wants to take away rights of others, which makes them no better than the republicans, democrates or any other political party.
---NurseRobert on 9/27/11


"Democraty and freedom, not equal" ---andy3996 on 8/18/11

What other form of government do you think best provides freedom then?

"dictators and corruption, not equal" ---andy3996 on 8/18/11

Can you name one dictator in modern history that was not abusive to his subjects?

"anarchie not equal to freedom" ---andy3996 on 8/18/11

I don't think anyone was suggesting that it is.
---Jed on 9/26/11


Democraty and freedom, not equal,
dictators and corruption, not equal
anarchie not equal to freedom
i also admit that democraty is a better yet fallible system, but then again,
theocraty is the best and only system (i'm not talking about what people say is theocraty) UNTIL THAT TIME talks about Christ's comming. nothing before.
---andy3996 on 8/18/11


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The Bible does play a role in the tea party because they represent biblical principles that neither the democratic or even republican party represent anymore such as heterosexual marriages, anti-abortion, working for what you have, defense of self, family, and country, justice, etc. The tea party is not even really a political party as much as it is a movement back toward the biblical principles our country was founded on.
---Jed on 8/17/11


americans have alot of rights, as a christian in america i have given up my american rights,to more easily exercise my Kingdom rights :D
---kevin5443 on 8/17/11


andy3996:

The problem with theocracies are that they are not run by God, but rather, by those who declare themselves as God's representatives. Being human, they are subject to corruption. Just look at Israel under the Pharisees (or even worse, under their kings - most of whom were corrupt).

I believe C. S. Lewis said that democracy is the best form of government, precisely because it is the least efficient - so if it becomes corrupted (which inevitably happens with human-run governments), it will be the least evil of any other forms of corrupt government. Compare the worst things America has done, contrasted with the worst done by unaccountable despots like Hitler, Stalin, and Pol Pot.
---StrongAxe on 8/17/11


I only mention this because I get so tired of people demonizing the tea party and acting as If it is some unconstitutional uprising of insurgency that desires a governmental overthrow.

I have seen nothing of the sort from any tea party participants, I'm sure you have a occasional zealot who acts alone.

But for the most part I find them to be very pleasant and focused on true change in this present government system of bureaucratic fat cats both Dem and Rep.

Thank God for our founding Fathers who experimentally had enough insight to set up a system for the people and by the people though some will disagree I'm sure.

God Bless America, Paul
---paul on 8/17/11


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well, then we should look at their today's manifest rather. how long is the US independant? any correct political party has time to corrupt itself.
take example of the Christian Democrats in my country, they wher very Christian at its beginning 1907-1908, now they discuss wether or not they should keep "the word Christian" in their manifest. this caused the more radical groups to seperate, but now these fractions seperate because the original fraction starts to compromise as well, fact is... NO political system can replace God's theocracy but until then we need to manage'. the best we know how.
---andy3996 on 8/17/11


//Then their motto being "No Taxation, without Representation".//

But Ben Franklin's number one rule in Britian (before the war) was do not join parliament (British Congress). I think a seat was offered, can anybody confirm that. We wanted self-government no matter what.
---Scott1 on 8/17/11


I have no idea why the modererators introduced the word "Biblical" into the blog topic, since it is neither mentioned nor implied in the original question.

The Bible doesn't talk about democratic forms of government anywhere, and the whole basis of the Boston Tea Party (from which the Tea Party gets its name) was rebellion against established authority, something the Bible frequently condemns (even though that authority was corrupt).

Whether one agrees with the Tea Party's principles (I do not), it's perfectly legal. Any non-violent political party should be legal, even communism (if American citizens want to lawfully elect a government that will take away all their freedoms, it's their right to do so).
---StrongAxe on 8/17/11


I would say yes. Since the orginal Boston Tea Party(from whence it got its name) was a revolt against King George by the Colonists.

Then their motto being "No Taxation, without Representation".

It was the birth of our nation and its freedom.

I mention this for overseas posters who may not be familiar with it.

Obviously Americans and British know the story very well.
---John on 8/16/11


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I don't know how "biblical" the tea party movement is. Jesus Christ Himself said that His Kingdom was NOT of this world, therefore, it's a fruitless task to bring it about by earthly means.

However, under the US Constitution and other laws, people have the right to organize and involve themselves in the political process and use all legal means of persuasion.

The only thing I know that is illegal is any attempt to overthrow the US government by force or violence.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/16/11


I dont know where Biblicality falls into this conversation for our government is not a theocrasy as it was in Bible times.

What I'm asking is does the tea party represent what our Democratic rights allow us to be.

Whether you agree with their views or not, ther status is to be admired with what they represent as a valid voice.

Paul
---Paul on 8/16/11


The Tea Party is certainly the only correct party, (based on my personal beliefs), but you can't call it a party of only Biblical people or Biblically based.
---wivv on 8/16/11


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