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I am white and married to a black man. My former pastor told us that there was nothing in the Bible against it. The pastor I am under, now told my biracial children that they can only marry black people and that it is wrong for us to be married as we were from different races.

Moderator - The Bible requires us to be equally yoked which refers to both spouses being Christian. You current Pastor is obviously wrong and I would strongly recommend finding a different church.

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Having read many of these comments, it is very disheartening to see so many professing christians go to such extreme lengths to hold on to their racist attitudes.

The truth is, I would have preferred that these apologists for sinful conduct accept their well practiced position and stand up and say it: I am a racist. It would be more honest and even though I may not agree with their position, at least it is clearly known.

In some ways, I should not be disheartened by the American christians insistence on holding on to their racist views. If we were to accept the reality in America, it would be accurate to say that racism is as much American as the stars and stripes.
---Allan on 9/5/11


i must admit that INDEED IN CHRIST she and i are from the same SEED therefore your race-seperation rules do no longer apply upon us.
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oh my gosh what????

you are seriously kidding right?

SPIRITUAL HEIRS according to the promise YOU (or the false minister you worship TEACHES you) to ADD the idea "races" are now one

the "rules" are still GODS I don't make them I'm just the messenger

NOTHING in Holy Scripture IMPLIES a Spiritual Heir are now of all one same race - beyond absurd

to be one IN Christ is to have HIS saving Truth - to speak the same TRUTH in Christ makes True Christians ONE

your claim that you are one in christ through race is antichrist to Holy Scripture
---Rhonda on 9/5/11


Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christs, then are ye Abrahams seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Now RHONDA, in marying my wife, (a CHRISTIAN born coloured and raised as an African)being myself a man (BORN uncoloured and raised as a white man from white europe)
even IF I WOULD AGREE with YOU, i must admit that INDEED IN CHRIST she and i are from the same SEED therefore your race-seperation rules do no longer apply upon us.
any "other race" to any true christian is the UNBELIEVER whom WE are called to preach salvation to. so you can keep your flat earth theory and apply it to the right person.
---andy3996 on 9/5/11


hello, interesting the forum between Paul, MarkV. & Eloy....I like what Paul said & putting it up to see ...." there's nothing wrong with struggling,when you give in,is the dangerous ground".Reminds me of when I was a child,me & my brother always play.. we fighting.The superior ask our names... I am dark.. my brother had blond hair,green eyes... my grandmother had to explain our dad was white & mother black.we both had to leave that school. Took me some years to understand.I did not know what racism was.... ELENA
---ELENA on 9/5/11


DO YOU KNOW the Israel state does not recognise any marriage but the orhodox Jewish rite? and provides NOTHING For Israeli's who think differently.

in addition because they have NO legal Marital state, their children canot receive Jewish citizenship.
also NO jew who puts under faith 'cHristian or other' is ever allowed to emigrate into Israel.
therefore BEING JEW according Israel has everything to do with your faith. I have a friend who emigrated to israel he "converted to Judaism married a jewish wife and is now a Jew, whilst people with BOTH PARENTS JEW from jews are refused because their faith isn't Judaean enough.
---andy3996 on 9/5/11




Rhonda, you declared it was very clear, that God said it, so I ask to provide Scripture so we could learn, but you provide nothing. This believe of yours is only your own believe because there is nothing in Scripture that speaks against interracial dating or marriage. Just another one of your own believes.
---Mark_V. on 9/5/11


Trav,

The Bible shows that I am more than likely to be from one of the twelve tribes, than you could ever state claim to. More over the wall of partition was broken down, long before you were a twinkle in your fathers eye...

Study and see who was really taken by ships from Israel. Who are the lost sheep of Israel, cos the only people who identify with the description in Deut are my descendent's.
---Carla on 9/5/11


Ac 17:26 "And He has made from one blood every nation of men to dwell on all the face of the earth, and has determined their preappointed times and the boundaries of their dwellings,

Paul
---paul on 9/4/11


"and where in Galatians does it explain marrying another race is acceptable to GOD?"
Who else is there besides Jew and Gentile?
"you are ALL ONE in Christ Jesus." I believe it is all inclusive.
---Chria9396 on 9/4/11


Disagree, For one thing,"
Galatians 3:28
*****

and where in Galatians does it explain marrying another race is acceptable to GOD?




I BELIEVE THERE is ONE RACE therfore i cannot believe in interracial relations.
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and there are many today who subscribe to the flat earth theory too ...so beliefs are a MANY

because mankind HAS free-will they will continue to live their way following THEIR Beliefs RATHER THAN Gods way simply because this is NOT GODS world ...True followers of Christ are instructed to live in the world and be separate following GODS WAYS
---Rhonda on 9/4/11




Rhonda, //"GOD is not a racist his instructions are timeless and work for the better creating LESS hardship for those who do not entertain interracial marriage ...CLEARLY the world is NOT free from racial hate"//
SO GOD DOES'NT wants people to marry because there's too much racism? i think this reasoning comes most probably from a book named "fighting racism for dummies"
what your basically saying is that God doesnt want anyone to marry blonds because we have too much "dumb blond jokes".
your saying that the best way to overcome racism is too send everyone back where he came from build giant walls around every tribe and hope to God nobody will ever have the idea to jump it. denial is not a good solution
---andy3996 on 9/4/11


Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) is proud of his Jewish background, but is an atheist.

is he a Jew?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/3/11

Additionally. One can call theirselves a Judah/Jew and be a liar. As per Revelations and common sense. Christians are hesitant to apply either these days on the topic. Preferring to believe a lie,defend and tithe an Anti-Christ people....who actually cannot even prove the claim. Their Chosen People, Anti-Christ and liars most likely. Hmmm.

But, if a people claim Christian....a fine grilling is in order.
The Bible has many irony's of truth.
A small boy kills giant with stone.
The blind see.
The meek inherit.
Wolfs in sheeps clothing, etc,etc,
---Trav on 9/4/11


\\answer these and you'll have to agree that being Jew (a messianic jew will disagree)
has more to do with the "religion then the blood itself"\\

Not according to the Israeli Law of Return.

An atheist is allowed Israeli citizenship IF s/he is Jewsh according to Halakah.

More than one rabbi has said that Judaism is not a religion, Judaism HAS a religion.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/4/11


"GODS instructions on interracial dating are CLEAR and one does not marry outside of their race if they are FOLLOWERS of Christ" Disagree, For one thing,"
Galatians 3:28
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus." I also believe there are 'approved' interracial marriages in the bible,some have been noted already. Since love conquers all, a mixed marriage is no problem with God #1. We have a lot of interracial marriages in my church, it's beautiful to see the body united in such a way ,
---Chria9396 on 9/4/11


Rhonda i'm against interracial relations, because that is Darwinistic. (however he wasn't the first, and i'll admit some churches have before, (and even some still do) dwelt in this error.

I BELIEVE THERE is ONE RACE therfore i cannot believe in interracial relations.

GOD CREATOR OF ONE MAN...
out of whom ONE WOMAN was taken...
OUT OF WHOM ALL NATIONS come forth
---andy3996 on 9/4/11


Rhonda, you said,
"GODS instructions on interracial dating are CLEAR and one does not marry outside of their race if they are FOLLOWERS of Christ"
Can you direct us to those passages? I'm willing to learn.
---Mark_V. on 9/4/11


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mankind has assigned the label of bigot to those who are not "open" to interracial marriages - it is a term from the world which True Christians are called out from

GODS instructions on interracial dating are CLEAR and one does not marry outside of their race if they are FOLLOWERS of Christ

if one has already married unknowing of GODS instructions than their children are free to marry either race (not one or the other)

GOD is not a racist his instructions are timeless and work for the better creating LESS hardship for those who do not entertain interracial marriage ...CLEARLY the world is NOT free from racial hate
---Rhonda on 9/3/11


\\John how can a non-jew become a jew?\\

By converting to Judaism.

\\how can a jew loose his Jewishness? \\

By assimilation and dropping his Jewish identity.

Daniel Radcliffe (Harry Potter) is proud of his Jewish background, but is an atheist.

is he a Jew?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/3/11


To suggest immaturity and poor economic conditions were probably the reasons for the Pastor's advice, to do excuse bigotry and sinfulness.
---Allan on 9/3/11

Allan you MiSSED my point!

I will put it simple terms so you will understand.

We are hearing one side of the story (HEARSAY) AND YOU DARE JUDGE A MAN BY HEARSAY!!!

We never heard his side. So I present another possiblity of this story.
---John on 9/3/11


John how can a non-jew become a jew?

how can a jew loose his Jewishness?

answer these and you'll have to agree that being Jew (a messianic jew will disagree)
has more to do with the "religion then the blood itself"
Proselytes have always integrated the "jewish comunity"
---andy3996 on 9/3/11


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John:

No one should be surprised by the advice given by the pastor. This is still America where, however deceitful we are inclined to be, the issue of race is probably the most significant social issue, under any circumstance.

However, having read what the gist of the Pastor's advice, economics or maturity had nothing to do with it. Moreover, the situation you described is common to all peoples. The advice, in that case, would be to wait until their economic situation improved.

To suggest immaturity and poor economic conditions were probably the reasons for the Pastor's advice, to do excuse bigotry and sinfulness.
---Allan on 9/3/11


\\There are virtualy no White People in scripture or the Middle east. (I'm White).\\

I'm not too sure what this is supposed to mean.

There are very few Europeans mentioned in Scripture, this is true.

However, not all people from the middle east are swarthy. I ought to know. I attend a Church full of middle easteners.

The priest and his wife are from Egypt. There is one young man whose parents are Iraqi immigrants. His skin is fairer than mine, though his features are identical to ancient Assyrian carvings.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/3/11


G-d did keep the Israelites racially pure. It is one of the reasons we still have Jews today. It is in fact a miracle Jews exist today.
---John on 9/3/11

Jews according to Revelation may or may not be Judah. Some are Esau, some are just imposters adoptive of the religion.
Judah made up 1/13th of Israel.
The Northern House side of Israel made up the largest part.
If GOD says he will scatter, then regather, we can either believe or reject. Most seminarys in blindness reject, so we get the pharisee's version. Jews=all Israel.
GOD/Christ will hiss and sift, you'll see Revelation 7,21-21 fulfilled. Twelve, walls, twelve gates,twelve apostles judging the twelve as the walk through.
---Trav on 9/3/11


There are virtualy no White People in scripture or the Middle east. (I'm White).

G-d did keep the Israelites racially pure. It is one of the reasons we still have Jews today. A small group of people who would have under normal circumstance been an obscure ancient culture that died out thousands of years ago. It is in fact a miracle Jews exist today.
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A Pastor gives a reality check advice to all pre-weds.
i.e. Two people in love, but none have a skill to pay the rent. He needs to tell them the future ramifications of this and how it will effect their children and their relationship(Poverty). THIS MAY BE THE CASE HERE.
---John on 9/3/11


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Carla,
I am white and married with my African Queen.
what i meant is God created man in his image.
darwinisme tries to explain "survival of the fittest"
trav mixes both in that he believes that when God forbade us to mary a woman//man of another nation (not race or specie implied)that this was a RELIGIOUS command.
Juda married a canaanite,
Moses first married a midianite, later (according Josephus) after Ziporah's dead) he married Princess of Mero (today Sudan)
one of the spies married a "shrineprostite from jericho Boaz married Ruth,
all thes foreign women are direct ancestors of Jesus in both direction (counting from Joseph and Mary makes no difference)
Be blessed with you caucasian husband
---andy3996 on 9/2/11


I am one Black proud momma.....
....last time I checked it remained the same from the day it was written.
---Carla on 9/1/11

Thank you for making the point. We have something in common.
You're a Black Proud Momma. I'ma proud White Daddy.
John 17:9
I pray for them: I pray not for the WORLD, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine.

John 15:19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: because ye are not of the world, I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
Believe also,nothing in scripture has changed. From Gen to Rev 7,21 & 22.
Revelations 22:18 carries a plague warning to those who do change it.
---Trav on 9/2/11


There is no one who can claim hand on heart that they are 100% pure of any race other than the human race.

I am one Black proud momma married to a white male with wonderfully blessed children added to the Kingdom of THE ALMIGHTY GOD, who tells a wonderfull story if trav would be so kind to read in Jhon 3.16

Foe God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that WHOSOEVER, hang on let me say it again cos he's too tied up in a religious belief that he is not apart of( the elite)

Judges of the world 144,000 and needs to go back and learn something like the word Whosoever believeth on HIM should not perish but have everlasting life.

last time I checked it remained the same from the day it was written.
---Carla on 9/1/11


TRAV, hw many races are there?
however you disagree with darwin in many matters , it appears that darwin and you would be buddies on the subject.
Moses married an ethiopian,
two of David's (and therefore jesus) grandmothers where of foreign descent. a MOABITE and a prostitute from Jericho. Josephs wife was Egyptian (the daughter of the priest of On)and other examples are still in the bible.
Mark 10:6 But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.
Galatians 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
---andy3996 on 8/29/11


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I would find a legitimate Christian Church to attend, one without prejudice nor bigotry...
---Eloy on 8/21/11

I'm always amazed at the thought process of ones accusing bigotry and prejudice.
When did it become wrong to be unmixed?
What kind of mind calls unmixed and the desire to remain so...prejudiced? Bigoted?
Scripture even forbad even the mixing "adulteration" of Cattle or seed.....for Israel.
Lev 19:19
Ye shall keep my statutes. Thou shalt not let thy cattle gender with a diverse kind: thou shalt not sow thy field with mingled seed: neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woollen come upon thee.
What about Black Pride/panthers,etc, etc? Dis these bigot's in a post.
---Trav on 8/28/11


Confused, the Moderator is right, I would find a legitimate Christian Church to attend, one without prejudice nor bigotry, for Christ looks upon the heart and not the color of skin.
---Eloy on 8/21/11


Allan...There are exceptions to the segregated churches. Our church is very mixed. In fact, my husband (the pastor) and I are part of the small minority of white people in our congregation. It is also a bilingual church, but all but one or two speak English. We have a translator for those who don't. The clue to being a pastor to anyone is loving everybody and being color blind.
---KarenD on 8/20/11


And I Cor.15:53 speaks of the Christian rapture and not of the present Christian life on earth.
---Eloy on 8/20/11

Upon taking off of the corruption being the flash and the sin nature associated with the flesh.

Until then we will have on us corruptible flesh with its nature.

Paul said that in him or in his flesh dwells no good thing.

We must over come sin in the flesh by walking in the spirit.

But that nature is always present ( to will is present Rom 7:18) in us and the occasion to sin.

Be careful Eloy you are running the risk of being guilty of 1 John 1:8.

Paul

---paul on 8/20/11


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Eloy, it is you who is speaking falsely here. All I did was bring it to your rememberance. How can you say a born again Christian does not sin, when you did? You brought bad fruit as you just said. How do we know them? By their fruit. You think you can see the heart of others, but you cannot see your own heart. Take the plank from your eye before you speak of someone elses speck. All Christians struggle in life with sin. You did. And still do when you answer. It is evidence of your fruit. All fall short of the glory of God. We just admit it. While you don't. I don't know your heart, but I know your fruit.
---Mark_V. on 8/21/11


The story of Ruth and Boaz is a clear example of two people from different races marrying and it was fine -
.....but black Christians marrying white Christians should be perfectly fine.
---StrongAxe on 8/17/11

Such confidence that you use the word "should" be perfectly fine.

Scripture does not support one case of mixing.
Ruth and Boaz both of extented line of Abraham...she being a Moabitess.
She a stranger in sense she was kinfolk unknown.
Again what is not endorsed, but rather warned against speaks loudly and has until now.
Numbers 23:9
For from the top of the rocks I see him, and from the hills I behold him: lo, the people shall dwell alone, and shall not be reckoned among the nations.
---Trav on 8/21/11


Carnal is not so much those who live in sin as it is who are trying to be righteous. Paul in Romans points out that the law can not be kept in our power but rather stirs the desire to sin within us. Though we desire to keep it, we cannot, but instead we are slaves to the things we have no desire to do. We are to fight, wrestle, resist and put to death, which is done by having the mind of Christ and submitting to the righteousness of God.

For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh(Romans 8:2,3)
---willa5568 on 8/21/11


Mark

This is a bad image to promote about Christianity.

I heard Mark Hall, the lead singer from Casting Crowns who also is a youth Pastor, in an interview one time.

He said " The world doesn't have a problem with Christian sinning, they have a problem with them acting like they don't".

We do our best but the best we can do is still going to fall short from time to time.

I hear some preachers with the polar opposite telling people to accept sin and that to is flawed.

But to tell someone their is something out of the ordinary wrong with them because they struggle with sin is incorrect.

Theirs nothing wrong with struggling,when you give in is the dangerous ground.

Paul
---paul on 8/20/11


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Paul, MarkV is a sinner, and not a Christian. And therefore he bears NonChristian fruit. Christ himself also says: "You all will know them by their fruits. Do people gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? Even so every good tree brings forward good fruit, but a corrupt tree brings forward bad fruit. A good tree cannot bring forward bad fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forward good fruit. Every tree that brings not forward good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits you all will know them."
---Eloy on 8/20/11


shira3877, from manifested reality, and from the Holy Scripture: Sinners do sin, and saints do right, and never shall the twain meet, for the one is raised up to heaven and the other is cast down to hell.
---Eloy on 8/20/11


I have a suspicion that very many American christians would be shocked at the diversity of Heaven, not only in terms of race.

However, although many may express amazement at the new pastor's attitude, we do know that this Sunday and next Sunday, and the Sunday after that, and for as far as we can see, Sundays are still the most segregated and divided day of every, single week.

---Allan on 8/20/11


paul, lit.Gk: Ro.7:20-23, "Now pretend I do what I should not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwells in me...I delight yet the law of God according to the inner man, seeing then another law at the members of me strategizing against the law of the mind of me, leading me away captive that law which sin, that from being at the members of me."
lit.Gk: Ro.7:9-11,14,
"For I was alive without the law once:..For sin, taking occassion by the commandment, deceived me, and slew by it. For we know that the law stands spiritual when I be like fleshly, having been sold under that sin, that truly then by work I not understand:"
And I Cor.15:53 speaks of the Christian rapture and not of the present Christian life on earth.
---Eloy on 8/20/11


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Paul, you are correct. Eloy has a problem somewhere and it is I think an ego problem. He claims if you are born again you do not sin. Even says you do not struggle with sin. Yet he claimed also he was born again twice. The first time he sinned he said. So when he was cured at the hospital, he was born again again. And claims born again believers do not sin, yet he did. Now how silly is that?
Any time a Christian disobeys God he is carnal. Every time he obeys he is spiritual. The Spiritual man can act in a fleshly manner. Anytime you do what you ought not to do, you are carnal. Carnally is not a permanent state of Christians. Carnality is simply a momentary experience of the believer who is disobedient to God.
---Mark_V. on 8/20/11


Paul, The godly do not struggle with the carnal man because the carnal man has been crucified and the new man, Christ Jesus, reigns in all our being.
---Eloy on 8/19/11

WHAT?

Ro 7:23 But I see another law in my members, warring against the law of my mind, and bringing me into captivity to the law of sin which is in my members.

Ro 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For what I am doing, I do not understand. For what I will to do, that I do not practice, but what I hate, that I do.

You have not reached what you claim quite yet.1 Cor 15:53

Don't try it, Paul
---paul on 8/19/11


Confused....You made the right decision. You and your family would feel very comfortable in our church and the church would welcome your entire family. If a church or pastor doesn't do that, you don't need to be there. God bless you all in your walk with the Lord.
---KarenD on 8/19/11


eloy, where do you get the idea that the born-again christian does not sin? If you live in the body of flesh and bone, corrupt, then you are tempted also. Don't get so high and mighty to think you cannot sin. I know another person who thinks they are perfect with no sin. She even told me she had no sin in her life.
---shira3877 on 8/19/11


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Paul, The godly do not struggle with the carnal man because the carnal man has been crucified and the new man, Christ Jesus, reigns in all our being. Whenever the tempter comes to try to get you to do sin, just rebuke him and remind him of his end which is the lake of fire and brimstone. Real born-again Christians do not struggle with sin because our lives are filled with Jesus and doing his will, which is works of right and not works of sin. Only the people who choose to entertain sin will have trouble with carnality, because you cannot serve two masters: Christ and nonChrist, right and wrong, good and bad. Choose right, and then commit to serving Christ always and at all times up to the end.
---Eloy on 8/19/11


Paul,
Romans 7:5-8:2: "For when we WERE in the flesh, the passions of sins, which were aroused by the law, did work in our members. But NOW WE ARE DELIVERED from the law, having died to what WE WERE HELD BY. PRETEND then I do that which I should not, I confess that the law right. Then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwells in me: truly then, I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwells no good thing. NOW PRETEND I do what I should not, it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwells in me. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus HAS MADE ME FREE from the law of sin and death."
---Eloy on 8/19/11


It is a shame that this type of attitude still exist, but it is not surprising. It is Satan's system, and He will be busy as long as there are vessels suitable for his purposes, vessels trapped in, and controlled by, prejudice, hate, envy, and ignorance.
---joseph on 8/19/11


\\. The pastor I am under, now told my biracial children that they can only marry black people and that it is wrong for us to be married as we were from different races. \\

Your children can marry anyone who is free to marry. Race is not an issue.

Leave that bigot and go to a REAL Church.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/18/11


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John is correct in saying:
"He might have been consoling them and it was taken by the parents as an offense. Since mix-married couples are constanly on Radar for something Racial."

As often is the case in such debates, we don't get to hear the other side of the story.

Also, there is a racial paranoia held by many thanks to political correctness.
---Haz27 on 8/18/11


Why is it that the mixed race couples continue to attend this man's church after his totally false comments? Why would you subject yourselves and your children to such bigotted comments?

That's a question I've been asking myself... I think some people are able to twist the Bible to say what they want it to say... and if they're someone you trust.. you think they're right and you're wrong. Actually, we have left, but I guess I just wanted someone else's take on the matter... someone not close to the situation or in this church. Thanks for all the advise, God bless... and this will be my last post here.
---Confused on 8/18/11


How are you judging when you really don't know the preacher OR what he really did say or meant.
---John on 8/17/11

John, you do exactly the same thing in the majority of your posts. People here base their responses on what is posted.

The majority of times, we have no idea what the other side of the story is.

If the pastor said what the poster claims he did, then the pastor is wrong.
---NurseRobert on 8/18/11


The Moderator is right, your current pastor is a prejudicial racist, and knows not God.
---Eloy on 8/18/11


Eloy

I think your a hoot first of all.

I have noticed if you see someone in a fault you automatically say they dont know God.

Does a fault automatically mean you don't know God or does it mean you are struggling with your carnal man just as we have been warned that we would struggle with.

Please explain, Thanx

Paul
---paul on 8/18/11


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confused...Why is it that the mixed race couples continue to attend this man's church after his totally false comments? Why would you subject yourselves and your children to such bigotted comments?
---KarenD on 8/18/11


John:

No, they are not. There were provisions for accepting foreign converts to Judaism, which were necessarily of different races, but now of the same religion. Ruth was a good example. This would not have been allowed if it was all about race.

Also, if the pastor told them that their mixed-race children could only marry black people, it meant he considered them to be black and not white, i.e. as if blackness was some kind of "taint". It was OK for black people to marry black people tainted with whiteness, but NOT acceptable for white people to marry people tainted with blackness. This is an incredibly biased and racist attitude.
---StrongAxe on 8/18/11


confused...it may not have to be that way but in reality it surely is. biracial children have to put up with a lot of nonsense.
---shira3877 on 8/18/11


John... It was not a misunderstanding. It was also said across the pulpit, to 2 couples who are Hispanics married to whites.
---Confused on 8/18/11


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The Moderator is right, your current pastor is a prejudicial racist, and knows not God.
---Eloy on 8/18/11


The moderator is correct. Your pastor is misunderstanding scripture, or misinterpreting it, on this subject. The unequal yoking refers to faith in Jesus Christ - not the colour of one's skin.
---Rita_H on 8/18/11


These condemnations were NOT about race or nationality, n.
StringAxe.

YES! THEY ABSOLUTELY WERE!

It is why we still have the Jewish race todaY!Judism encompasses ALL! Religion Race, Culture and Nationality(Israel/Judah etc)

Now all you (Im not a racist ME TOOS!) self rightouse people on the Me Too!Band Wagon here.

How are you judging when you really don't know the preacher OR what he really did say or meant.

He might have been consoling them and it was taken by the parents as an offense. Since mix-married couples are constanly on Radar for something Racial.

NOW TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND THINK!! ALL YOU ME TOOs!!!!
---John on 8/17/11


Confused, these are very Godly admonitions that's Scriptural,

"So Christians should not marry Hindus, Muslims, atheists, etc. but black Christians marrying white Christians should be perfectly fine." StrongAxe

"The Bible requires (instructs) us to be equally yoked which refers to both spouses being Christian." Moderator

Always turn to the Lord Jesus in prayer and He will remove that cloud of confusion in your heart. Be encouraged and not confused.
---christan on 8/17/11


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I don't think it is good to let evil people decide what you do. If you make sure your children are same-race in order to avoid their being picked-on, they might be able to get along with the kids who would pick on mixed-marriage children.
---Bill_willa6989 on 8/17/11


Oh Wow! for once i actually agree with the moderator,hahaa.... be stoked You got someone You love and they love YOu back :D
---kevin5443 on 8/17/11


Don't make it something it is not, I am not a racist nor do I condone it.

I am married to a dark skinned woman and love her dearly.

What I am saying is that in this still some what racist society the children will suffer.

Just be prepared for it if you marry biraicaly.

Paul
---paul on 8/17/11


Several of you have mentioned that you've seen the ridicule and misery of biracial children. That does not have to be so. My children are healthy and well-adjusted. My husband and I discussed this issue well before we decided to get married. That is not the issue here. I thought I had a clear understanding of what the Bible said about it. Now, someone I have trusted tells me something different than I had been taught. I am confused and feel betrayed. My children are looking to me for an answer. They love Pastor, his wife, their friends, the church and are excited about every service. I am the one struggling, now.
---Confused on 8/17/11


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The Biblical thing to do would be to talk to the pastor who has been reported as saying that. Perhaps someone else told them that the pastor said it. There is nothing Biblically wrong with mixed marriage like yours. The world is more mixed today than ever. And the notion that somehow the children will suffer is such a prejudice thought and outdated idea that it is pathetic that someone even used that comment. Children are suffering in all dysfunctional homes today, not because of mixed marriage.
---KarenD on 8/17/11


leave that church, the pastors' a racist which is against Christ.
in Christ there is no more difference.
besides as moderator said, it is the faith that is a condition, not the skin.
---andy3996 on 8/17/11


\\I have seen this time and again.\\

I'm sure you have.

Please God, we will see this less and less frequently.

Something to think about: What race is the soul?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/17/11


Paul, understand what you say, but it is not always so. My children are biracial, there have been some difficulties, but, for the most part other issues have been a greater problem, which have nothing to do with race. We live in a predominantly white area, racism exists here as elsewhere. When faced with such, they/we try to seek the Lord's guidance and respond accordingly. We rarely need to do so. We've guarded against blaming every slight etc on racism, while keeping eyes open to the possibility. Overall, they are very accepting of others individuality, are active in our community and well liked. Our church is wonderfully diverse with many interracial families. There is a place of belonging beyond the worlds that is awesome!
---Chria9396 on 8/17/11


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I embrace all races but being unequally yoked has one meaning and many applications. I too have seen mixed children the brunt of ridicule and horendous teasing. It is so sad what some of these children are exposed to. Back in the late 60's, the teen girl who babysat for me on occasion was mixed. She was so beautiful and sweet. She told me all the teasing she endured. white guys wouldn't date her and black guys wouldn't date her. My heart broke for her.
---shira3877 on 8/17/11


In my three-score plus years, I'm yet amazed at how superficial a great many people are so quick to judge others, like books, by merely looking at their cover. After many years of studying this dilemma, I've concluded such short-sightedness is devilish. It is nothing short of satanic! Thru the ages it has continually been a hotbed for hatred, confusion, injustice & self-righteousness. Yes, the god of this world (satan) really blinds the minds of many who see with (like insect feelers), not thru their eyes!

God looks at the hearts (character) of people, not our outer appearance. Real Christians should do the same!
---Leon on 8/17/11


I agree that 2 people must be equally yoked as the Moderator stated, but don't leave a church aka "going church hunting" because a statement was made. See what he ment by it and tell him to show you scripturally.

Many times things stated can be misinterpretted. So check with him and see what he was talking about.
---Rickey on 8/17/11


Confused:

In the Old Testament, marriages between different nations were consistently condemned - BECAUSE if a man from Israel married a woman from another nation, she might sway his heart to other gods.

These condemnations were NOT about race or nationality, but about religion. The story of Ruth and Boaz is a clear example of two people from different races marrying and it was fine - because they both worshipped the God of Israel.

So Christians should not marry Hindus, Muslims, atheists, etc. but black Christians marrying white Christians should be perfectly fine.
---StrongAxe on 8/17/11


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Only, and I mean ONLY, in the US!
---Marc on 8/16/11


When I was in High School, one of my Social Studies teachers declared that "Racism Is DEAD !!!"

Not really.

It sounds like your current pastor is a racist. Something that Christians shouldn't be.

Many people struggle with racism, because we are just human and change takes time. Even over silly little things like: Skin Color, Eye Color, Hair Styles, etc.

I agree with the Moderator's advice. Find another church.
---Sag on 8/16/11


I do not find biracial marriage to be a sin.

But I do most defiantly find that the children are the ones to suffer.

They are very confused not knowing which cutler to embrace and finding themselves ridiculed and mocked often.

I have seen this time and again.

Paul
---paul on 8/16/11


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