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When a person becomes a true Christian, what changes does one expect to see in his or her life?

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Aka, I will add, that victory came through BELIEVING God's unconditional promises. I wrote poems through that journey, one poem, here is only the ending, as no room for it all.

GRACE: June 1983, by kathr4453

Your Mercy so Graceous, You spend it on me,
Oh what is this LOVE You want me to see?
It has NO CONDITIONS of which on my part,
I must work to earn it, it's GRACE you impart.

All fear leaves this love,
A peace now does land,
My Heart FIXED on Jesus,
I REST in your Hand.
---kathr4453 on 9/5/11


AKA and Leej, Nothing compares to the personal hands with tender loving care of our Lord who's loving touch is finer than silk. And yes Leej, I know too who is our teacher, the Holy Spirit who brings us into all truth.

The sad and scarry thing about these legalistic crusades going on by the self righteous is exactly as you say Leej, you never know just who is on the edge, who is saved, where just the wrong thing said can push someone over the edge, as what happened to my sister in law. I see Churches today are a mision field. So my attitude isn't KEEP OUT, but come on in.

AKA, There is light at the end of teh tunnel, but there is VICTORIOUS resurrection life through the valley of the shaddow of death...that's the light!!!.
---kathr4453 on 9/4/11


kathr,

it is a good thing to hear of your triumphs over unbreakable struggles through the power of Jesus Christ, the Lord.

our rough exteriors and any knowledge of scripture pales into comparison to the reality of God's precious Word.
---aka on 9/4/11


kathr4453 ..'we seen a lot in various churches these 30+ years. I will say, it has been a spiritual journey and education, I wouldn't trade for anything. The Good, the bad and the ugly...

One thing is for certain is that you cannot look to the church for your spiritual education. You really have to take it upon yourself to study the Bible and its theology from the available literature.

yes, I have seen the good, the bad and the ugly in the church as well. We have had ministers run off with their head elders wife, overindulge in alcoholic beverages, and stained with a variety of other repugnant sins. Others have been very good or at least mediocre, some on a upward learning curve.
---leej on 9/4/11


leej, Nana, and MarkV, I appreciate your comments.

I've seen a lot in various churches these 30+ years. I will say, it has been a spiritual journey and education, I wouldn't trade for anything..the Good, the bad and the ugly, along with good teachers and horrible ones, the Lord still taught me through it all, and taught me discernment with it too. One thing I know is, as we all grow and are on different levels of maturity what Nana brought here in 1st Cor 13 is Vitally important. 1st Cor 13 is not for us to be fruit inspectors, but for self examination. It's like a boomerang chapter. The moment one uses it to judge another they have totally missed the point of what Paul said and judged themselves guilty.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/11




kathr4453//God's working in my life to deliver me from suicide was a faith so incredibly above anything anyone could imagine. GOD did it, THROUGH HIS WORD, that I personally believed and surrender to.

All the more reason why we should seek to be more understanding of others on this forum since some are unstable mentally and living on the edge of life.

My apologies if I have in any way offended.
---leej on 9/3/11


kathr4453,

Well agree with what you just said.
---Nana on 9/3/11


Kathr, you are speaking of the invisible body of Christ and my answer was concerning the visible body of Christ. In the visible body of Christ, if a Christian is out of harmony with the teachings of the Church he is kick-out of the congregation, those are commands a church must follow in order to not lose the flock. If that person teaches heretical views, they will corrupt the body of believers, not by deceiving them, because the elect cannot be deceived, but those who have not made a confession yet who are members. In Scripture it is done so that the person will feel guilty and repent. But many never feel the guilt. They just gone on teaching their heretical views.
---Mark_V. on 9/3/11


So it is that the best rewarded faith seeks not its own buth rather that of others as:
Matt. 9:36, Matt. 14:14, also Moses pleading for the people.
---Nana on 9/2/11
Yes Nana, and there is no greater love than this but to lay down your life for another. Moses prayed for God to kill him too. Paul said, he would gladly lay down his own life and be accursed to see his own flesh the Jews be saved.

How may have such a heart? YET I believe this comes through maturity as we are conformed to His Image, who Himself laid down His life for us all.

That's being made PERFECT in LOVE.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/11


AKA, You misunderstood what I was saying. I'll clarify here. Yes, we are a BODY and no part is above or separate from the other.

HOWEVER, Through His precious promises we are partakers of His divine nature. Here I believe is individual faith that my faith cannot CHANGE you. My faith may encourage you, Some 30% some 70% some 100% surely indicates individual growth.

And we know individual christians do stand individualy before the Judgement seat of Christ. Someone elses works that may burn will not affect mine or yours, or vice versa.

God's working in my life to deliver me from suicide was a faith so incredibly above anything anyone could imagine. GOD did it, THROUGH HIS WORD, that I personally believed and surrender to.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/11




AKA, yes many will come in His name, and say, here, teach this class since you are a school teacher, or do this, WE believe this is your gift, when they are actually looking on the outside and judging one from the outside, where your place in the body may be altogether different than even you imagined. The ugliest person with a stutter would probably be told to do something they though appropriate, where God may have called him to Evangelize, YES, stand in fronmt of others and speak WITHOUT a stutter in the Power of the Holy Spirit SHOWING through that person the Glory and power of God.

God chooses the base to bring to nothing those who think they are, that no one will Glory in themselvess But let him who Glories Glory in the Lord.
---kathr4453 on 9/3/11


//being changed from Glory to Glory by the Spirit of the Lord is personal and intimate.// ---kathr4453 on 9/1/11

Mark V. makes a good point scripturally speaking. I thank God for the things the Lord has shown me about Himself through others.

//FAITH is not a group effort, but individual one. //

Eph 4:4 There is one body and one Spirit--just as you were called to the one hope that belongs to your call--
Eph 4:5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism,
Eph 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

When we put ourselves above the group, we put ourselves out of the group. (many who come in My Name...)
---aka on 9/2/11


Faith may not be a group effort..., however, (Matt. 18:19) and
1Cor.13:13: "And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three, but the greatest of these is charity."
1Cor.13:1:"... and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal."
So it is that the best rewarded faith seeks not its own buth rather that of others as:
Matt. 9:36, Matt. 14:14, also Moses pleading for the people.
---Nana on 9/2/11


When X becomes a Christian, the changes in X's life are directed by God, and nobody appointed you to monitor it."
Cluny on 8/21/11"

Cluny I totally agree. Obviiously you believe in the individual priesthood of the Believer, that Christ is your head and not the Church. I do find your answer interesting being orthodox. But I applaud your answer.

How God worked/works in my life is beyond anything anyone could have directed. FAITH is not a group effort, but individual one. And being changed from Glory to Glory by the Spirit of the Lord is personal and intimate.
---kathr4453 on 9/1/11


The holy life of Christ with good fruits of righteousness.
---Eloy on 9/1/11


the words 'sin' and 'iniquity' have become synonymous. to get a better understanding of what the Lord speaks (as opposed to man), it is good to try to find the similarities and the differences.

in the n.t., 'sin' itself uses two different words: one is an offense, the other means 'missing the mark'. so, we can sin by willful transgression or sin by making "un"willful mistakes.

iniquity is used in three ways: injustice, illegality (unrighteousness), and transgression (1x).

Even though, these words are used synonymously today, there are slight nuances which do separate the meaning in context.
---aka on 9/1/11


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Cluny, while you are right that a genuine Christian matures by the Holy Spirit who teaches him and guides him unto all Truth, for all believer grow in the Word by listening to God through His Word and studying what He wants us to know, but you are wrong when you said'
""When X becomes a Christian, the changes in X's life are directed by God, and nobody appointed you to monitor it."
Cluny on 8/21/11"
Those who are
Christians already that belong to a visible church are monitored. You cannot began to teach another gospel or continue to practice habitual sins. You are kick out. At least in many Churches. That is what Scripture directs the body of Christ to do.

---Mark_V. on 9/1/11


I would say 1st and 2nd Corinthians would be a perfect example of that change. Growing from babies, and in so many ways worldly and disobedient to mature Christians after Paul more fully explained we cannot hold on to those old ways.

TRUE repentance of our failures and ignorance with humility God gives MORE GRACE that brings one to maturity leading of becoming overcomers.
---kathr4453 on 9/1/11


Please note that maturity, even in the Christian life, takes time, and is not always sudden.

A 12 year old, or even an unborn baby, is indeed a true human being, but hardly mature.

Neither a baby human or baby Christian are what they will grow into.

And God has all eternity to work on us, if we let Him.

2 Corinthians 3:18
But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/31/11


The Bible does depict a standard of conduct and belief for the Christian. In fact, if one who proclaims the name of Christ continues to sin, then it is the duty of the church to discipline or even expel such a person.

Ga 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Eph. 5:11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.

The day that a denomination loses its ability to discipline its members is the day that it will cease to exist as a viable proclaimor of God's word.
---leej on 8/31/11


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"When X becomes a Christian, the changes in X's life are directed by God, and nobody appointed you to monitor it."
Cluny on 8/21/11

A M E N ! ! !

"Self appointed fruit inspectors, always in the wrong orchard, looking for the wrong fruit." James_L

A M E N again!

By their fruits you shall know them.

Lets remember most importantly that Christ is our firstfruit.

Rom 11:16 "If the firstfruit is holy, the lump is also holy"

1Cor 15:20 "now is Christ risen from the dead, and become the firstfruit of them that slept"

The most important change for us is i no longer live but Christ lives in me Gal 2:20
---Haz27 on 8/31/11


Matthew 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
---francis on 8/31/11


Mark E, you have some very good information. Discipleship is so important. In the beginning new believers are just beginning, it is a transformation that is occuring, they believe by faith they are saved and have been forgiven, now they need to learn all there is to know about God. That only comes through discipleship from someone who more mature in the knowledge of God. If there is true conversion, the person will have a passion to learn and that comes from God. If they don't have a passion, then no one can make them have a passion only God can.
---Mark_V. on 8/31/11


Genuine love.

The love that that come from the heart not because you have to do it becasue that's what the bible says, but you love the Father so much that you want to do it for Him.

The change in a person is the showing of genuine love for the Father and for people. Do an online KJV bible search for "one another," "each other," "comfort," and "encourag" to know the lifestyle of the christian on a daily basis.
---Steveng on 8/29/11


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Who knows? It is according to one's faith, the condition of one's heart. What have been your experiences in your past life. Some people are more humble,pliable,more trusting than others. Their progress may be faster. The more humble one is and childlike the more God can use them. This is why we must become like little children(trusting and believing Jesus) to enter the kingdom of God. No arrogance,haughtiness,pride etc...
This is what the world calls stupid and blind christians. God knows better. We should always follow Christ(God) and His ways. God will bless us for our obedience. We will be blessed and reap the benefits in due time, but we must not give up!
---Robyn on 8/29/11


In my experience, it depends upon those who are making the disciples.

If the "newbie" is being mentored by mature believers, firmly rooted in doctrine and the basic theology, then the "newbie" will grow well and with diligence, grow quickly.

If the "newbie" is not being mentored at all (the majority of people today) and is simply floundering on their own, the "newbie" will mature slowly and possibly not at all. It may be that the seed of the Word will be choked out by the world and wither and die.

For this reason, mentoring of new believers is important.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/23/11


2 Ti 2:19 Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity.

At least one can expect to see some changes in ones life, otherwise he or she really has no testimony.
---leej on 8/23/11


Some folks that reply should really search deep to see if they are exibiting the fruits of the spirit.
---JIM on 8/23/11


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\\When X becomes a Christian, the changes in X's life are directed by God, and nobody appointed you to monitor it.\\
---Cluny on 8/21/11

A M E N ! ! !

Self appointed fruit inspectors, always in the wrong orchard, looking for the wrong fruit.

We will know THEM by their fruits (Matt 7:15-20)

THEM is FALSE PROPHETS.

"Who Come To You In Sheep's Clothing"

we WILL NOT be able to see the difference with our eyes.

The harvest will determine wheat and tares. (Matt 13:24-30)

Rev 14:15
And another angel came out of the temple, crying out with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, Put in your sickle and reap, for the hour to reap has come, because the harvest of the earth is ripe.
---James_L on 8/22/11


Will someone that becomes a Christian believe that God created the world in six 24 hour days?
Will he or she become convicted that the OT sabbath must be observed?
Will desires to read the Bible and have better relationships with other become evident?
Will old friends fall away and new friends be found.
What will his relationship to the church become?
Money? Will he spend less on gambling, booze and others that tend to be problems in ones life?
Will he be more caring of others?
Or will the new Christians simply change in beliefs only if he had no bad habits to begin with?
---leej on 8/22/11


there are many who define themselves as true christians, but are not.

actually, there should be the lack of expectation. expectations and preconceived notions may stunt your growth follower of Jesus Christ.

(but, me thinks this is a lead into Calvanist teachings. if so, i was predestined to have the choice not to participate.)
---aka on 8/22/11


Galatians 5:22, if you find this in your life growing, you'll pretty much sure Christ is pressent. the verses before, if this increases within you, you'r wandering off. i am aware some will say that this is absurd but i do believe God left us some testing stones to chech if we're not wandering of.
---andy3996 on 8/22/11


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True Love. "...Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another." john 13 34,35
---Scott1 on 8/22/11


YOU should not expect to see changes in another person's life.

When X becomes a Christian, the changes in X's life are directed by God, and nobody appointed you to monitor it.

To his own Lord he stands or falls, and YOU are not his Lord.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/21/11


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