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How To Punish My ExHusband

I am in a situation where my ex lives 4 blocks away. He is still in the lives of all my friends so total avoidance is impossible. He keeps sending me emails and calling me to try and keep me on the "back burner". I would like to know a subtle way to punish and teach him a lesson. Any ideas?

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---Eloy on 8/28/11


Eloy:

You said: Gordon, I have decided not to reply to certain dissers on this site because they ask questions of me not because they desire the truth, but rather I have learned from experience that they ask only for the single sole purpose to blaspheme and to dis my replies

I would LOVE to hear truth from you. Sadly, you frequently post things that disagree with established truth, and when asked to corroborate it, rather than do so, you accuse those who ask of blasphemy.

You said: cluny, it truly is a wonderful thing to witness that you never weary of posting an over abundance of lies and blasphemies.

It is truly a sad thing to witness that you never weary of accusing others of lies and blasphemies.
---StrongAxe on 8/29/11


\\And why "yahushua" and not "yehoshua", which is much more commonly attested?\\

And is it worth pointing out that the vowel were NOT added to Hebrew until several centuries AFTER Christ?

Therefore, whether the first syllable should be "ya" or "ye" is debatable.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/26/11


cluny, it truly is a wonderful thing to witness that you never weary of posting an over abundance of lies and blasphemies.
---Eloy on 8/26/11


Gordon, I have decided not to reply to certain dissers on this site because they ask questions of me not because they desire the truth, but rather I have learned from experience that they ask only for the single sole purpose to blaspheme and to dis my replies: "And they came to pretend themselves just men, that they might entangle him in words, saying, Tell us therefore, What think you? But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, Why tempt you all me, hypocrites?"
---Eloy on 8/26/11




Cluny, The LORD commands that we (strive to) walk in Holiness. If we are Born Again then we are no longer "sinners", we are to refer to ourselves as "Saints". Eloy was referring to those who deny the Truth as being "sinners". They actually charge that Eloy's GOD-given Vision was from Satan (or at least, of his own flesh nature) rather than of GOD. Mark V accused Eloy of claiming to be God the Father. Mark V slandered him in this way. (Read CAREFULLY Mark's previous comment(s)!)Mark LIED about him (that's a SIN). Mark, in his efforts to dispute Eloy, accused Eloy of claiming to be God the Father, when, IF YOU READ Eloy's own comment of his Vision, never said nor implied any such thing.
---Gordon on 8/26/11


Mark V, I have made it plain from Whom I believe Eloy's Vision came. Most of mankind will perish in Hell. That's the principle meaning behind MATTHEW 7:13-14. (And also MATTHEW 22:14 and LUKE 13:24). What Eloy did, in the Vision, was testify that the woman was Hell-bound. He was not playing the Judge and condemning her to Hell of his own accord. But, (it seems) because you're TOO skeptical, you're quick to READ INTO ELOY'S VISION what isn't even there. And, you are quick, therefore, to READ INTO ELOY'S COMMENTS what he never even said, nor implied. No matter what you say, your slander is plain to see (accusing Eloy of claiming to be "God the Father"). The only thing due is your admittance that you mis-represented Eloy's Vision.
---Gordon on 8/27/11


StrongAxe, I learned the Names of "YAHUSHUA" and "YAHUVEH" from the Prophet Elisabeth Elijah Nikomia. Prophet Elisabeth has been slandered by some on You Tube. And has suffered ridicule and "verbal stonings". But, such was the fate of many, IF NOT ALL, of GOD's Prophets. The ones who've slandered her and falsely accused her will find that they were the ones who were wrong. Her main Calling as a Prophet and Apostle of GOD is to help the Bride of CHRIST to get herself ready for the first Rapture (MATT. 25). The whole Church is not the Bride, as some teach. The Bride is to be without spot or wrinkle. And, that is the striving to walk in daily Obedience, Love, Humility, Holiness, Faith and Purity.
---Gordon on 8/27/11


Gordon, one thing is very clear, the Elect cannot be deceived. If anyone tells you that he was at the Great White Throne of Judgment, and was seated with Christ, and pointing the finger at his wife, that should bring red flags to your brain. His refusal to forgive his own wife, is very evident in his answers. The inability to forgive, gives evidence his heart has not change one bit. Now he tells us Jesus is 6 ft. tall and white with a beard and mustache, that should bring more red flags. And teaches there is other ways into the Kingdom of God other then Christ, that should bring more red flags. And yet you say he is right. There is something very wrong there Gordon and you support it. Remember, the Elect cannot be deceived.
---Mark_V. on 8/27/11


Gordon:

I am not disputing that God may have prophets in the church today. However, the fact that someone claims to be a prophet does not necessarily mean he is one.

1 John 1:4
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."

So, which prophet revealed this secret to you? And why "yahushua" and not "yehoshua", which is much more commonly attested? Also, why is this revelation coming NOW, and not 2000 years ago, when the new testament was written? Why would God allow his own apostles and prophets to deliberately misspell a name if he thought the correct spelling and pronunciation was all that important?
---StrongAxe on 8/26/11




Gordon, I wanted to know if you believe what eloy is saying coming from God? You stood up for his vision as if you did. I would like to know this way later when I see your answers I will know what you believe and if it from God or not.
---Mark_V. on 8/26/11


\\StrongAxe, I regard the fact that GOD (still) has Prophets in the Church today\\

That is not being denied.

What is being denied is the source of this particular vision.

Considering who posted it, and his various errors he has posted in the past, there is no reason to accept it.

**Blogmeister, I have learned not to think about any thing that sinners say.
---Eloy on 8/25/11**

If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth [Jesus} is NOT IN US! 1 John 1:8

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/26/11


StrongAxe, I regard the fact that GOD (still) has Prophets in the Church today. GOD makes it clear in EPHESIANS 4:11-12 that HE has placed Prophets within the Church to help minister to her (no time limit given, either). And, a key to being a Prophet of GOD is recorded in AMOS 3:7, that, GOD reveals HIS Secret(s) to His Prophets. He regards HIS Prophets highly for HIS Service. For me, it was one of HIS Prophets that He revealed the importance and precision of the Son's Name of "YAHUSHUA" (as opposed to "Yeshua" or "Y'shua". These latter omit the Name of "YAH" from his Name. The Father's Name is "YAHUVEH/YAHWEH", His Son is named after His Father. His Name means "YAHWEH is Salvation".
---Gordon on 8/26/11


StrongAxe, Cont...The Name of "YAHUSHUA" is also being taught by GOD's Teachers and some Pastors. The Name is being revealed more and more. There are false cults who claim to be of the "Sacred Name/Hebraic Roots" Movement within the Church, but, they teach false doctrines alongside the True Names, which only accomplishes in giving the Truth a bad name. Satan imitates the things that GOD is doing. Even though it's small in number, that does not mean it's not truly of GOD. Only 8 people believed the report of the coming Flood in Noah's day. GOD's people are truly a Remnant in number. What the majority of people believe and fall for, GOD detests. GOD's Truth is not popular, even more so in these dark days of the End Times.
---Gordon on 8/26/11


Gordon, A-men brother. I assure you that you will not be disappointed at the gathering to our Lord, for he is high and lifted up, high above all the earth, above all principallity and dominion, sitting upon his throne he rules the world and his kingdom and his reign is from everlasting onto everlasting. They of clean heart, they will see God. My Lord Jesus radiates the most brilliant white light. He is a six foot tall white Jew, with long black hair reaching an inch and a half below his ear lobes. He has a short beard and mustache, and has very dark brown eyes which look straight through you to inside of you. He wears a long-sleeved white caftan, and a five inch tall bishops miter is on top of his head.
---Eloy on 8/26/11


Gordon:

I have heard the names "Yeshua" and "Yehoshua" used. I had never heard "Yahushua" before reading your posts. A web search reveals that a few fringe groups happen to use this pronunciation, but they are in the extreme minority. To which one of these groups do you subscribe?

Regardless of how Jesus's ACTUAL name was pronounced, the fact remains that all the records of him that we have call him "IESOUS" in Greek. All the writers of the New Testament used Greek, and they saw nothing wrong with doing so. Are you better than they were? Do you accept the New Testament? If so, why do you object to how his name was written? And if not, then on what do you base your beliefs about him?
---StrongAxe on 8/26/11


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\\Do you have any scripture to support this tradition?\\

Consider the caution of St. Thomas wishing to confirm the Resurrection by seeing the pierced hands and side of Jesus.

Consider also the verse "They shall look upon Him whom they pierced."

Of course, while these are not referring to mystical visions as such, they do provide precedent.

**Since when is anything that GOD Himself reveals and gives out not important**

What has not been established is that this vision is of God.

**How could the Lord's Name really be a Greek name**

Greek had been the lingua franca in that part of the world since the time of Alexander the Great.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/26/11


StrongAxe, Everything that GOD gives out is important and relevant (you don't believe that?). Since when is anything that GOD Himself reveals and gives out not important? Since when?! And many people have benefited Spiritually from heeding a modern Dream or Vision from GOD. Which is what is suppose to happen! I use the Name "YAHUSHUA" because that's the Son of GOD's true Name. He was born a Hebrew. He was born in Israel...Of Hebrew Lineage. His fleshly mother was Hebrew and His "step-father" was Hebrew. He was given a Hebrew Name. "JESUS" is an Anglo-Grecian Name. How could the Lord's Name really be a Greek name if He was a Hebrew? The Anti-Christ will call himself "Jesus". The name the whole World knows.
---Gordon on 8/26/11


Eloy, How awesome that must have been. To be RIGHT THERE in the direct Presence of the Lord Himself. I'm envious (in a good way)! I'm sure the Earth here below does not compare. All scoffers will someday learn that GOD cannot be contained in little boxes of finite, human understanding. More of Almighty YAH's Blessings to you, Brother.
---Gordon on 8/26/11


Gordon, first, you spoke greatly of God powers. Then you said, "Our puny mouths shall be silenced."
His mouth was not silenced. Can anything come from God when a person condemn's his wife in front of the world? Could that vision be from God? Those visions do not come from God but from the enemy. I'm not surprise that you back him up and call his vision from God. But God would never want one of His children to condemn anyone outside the Church. He judges anyone outside the Church.
"Therefore you are "inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself, for you who judge practice the same things." All judgment has been given to the Lord.
---Mark_V. on 8/26/11


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Worth repeating:

God showed to me the future Judgment Day, precisely that time when it was her turn to come up and stand before the Great White Throne. My Lord was sitting upon his throne and I was with him. She looked up to my Lord, and I pointed at her and said, "She Took." And her mouth dropped and her eyes widened and she was not able to bring any word for her unrepented sin. And thereby I witnessed her condemnation and nonacceptance into the Kingdom of heaven. God will not let sin into heaven, else she corrupt holy heaven as she did those on earth.
---Eloy 8/23/11"


Eloy pointed the finger and said "She took"
He convicted her of sin. So that she will not corrupt people in heaven.
---Mark_V. on 8/26/11


Blogmeister, I have learned not to think about any thing that sinners say.
---Eloy on 8/25/11


Gordon, A-men. If the scoffers and scowlers and dissers of Truth want to know the details, I was standing upright and not sitting down. My King was siitng upon his great and glorious throne, and I was standing right beside him, and we were not alone, but there were others and mighty angels also were standing together with us. It was Judgment time and one by one had to come up and stand in front of my Lord and give an account of themselves for what they havd both said and have done on earth. Some were washed and were brightly lit, and others like that woman was exceedingly murky and greatly despised of all.
---Eloy on 8/25/11


I do not force my Truth upon anyone, I merely testify the facts and leave it up to the hearer whether or not they choose to accept it. For me, I care not whether any hearer disses the truth I speak 24 hours a day and 7 days a week, because their dissings and their dirt comes from themselves and it is their own idle words which they must give an account of on Judgment Day. For we must all appear in front of the Judgment throne of Christ, that every one will receive the things in body, according to what we have done, whether good or bad.
---Eloy on 8/25/11


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Cluny you make some interesting points.
Do you have any scripture to support this tradition?

It is interesting.
---John on 8/25/11


Gordon:

The scriptures should be sufficient for us. While other revelations might be nice, they are not, strictly speaking, necessary.

However, many people have gone astray by following false visions and dreams of various teachers who believed they were following God, but were wrong.

The Biblical standard for truth requires two or three witnesses. This does not mean it's impossible for 2 or 3 people to lie or be confused. It just means something is much more likely to be true and believable if more than one person can personally attest to it.

Also, why do you say YAHUSHUA? Why not use the name actually written in the Bible? If it was good enough for the writers of the New Testament, why isn't it good enough for you?
---StrongAxe on 8/25/11


Eloy said: No, God showed to me the future Judgment Day, precisely that time when it was her turn to come up and stand before the Great White Throne. My Lord was sitting upon his throne and I was with him. She looked up to my Lord, and I pointed at her and said, "She Took." And her mouth dropped and her eyes widened and she was not able to bring any word for her unrepented sin. And thereby I witnessed her condemnation and nonacceptance into the Kingdom of heaven. God will not let sin into heaven, else she corrupt holy heaven as she did those on earth."

Eloy, neither will God allow spiritual delusion. Think about it!
---Blogmeister on 8/25/11


Eloy, even though the Bible says that Satan is the accuser, you claimed in this vision of yours to have told Jesus about your ex- "She took!"

Well, what did she take?

Is not a married woman entitled to be supported by her husband?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/25/11


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StrongAxe, You say that we "cannot know for sure without any corroboration". And when and how will that happen? How do you know that you'll have the "right corroboration"? If someone comes along and testifies that Eloy's Vision was indeed from GOD, you, at the rate you're going, may doubt even then as well. Where would it get to the point that you'd be finally convinced? If a Vision does not directly go against GOD, then you have to have Faith that it is from GOD. People are missing out for not trusting in a number of Dreams and Visions from GOD that HE is giving out today, because they're skeptical that "it has to be from the Devil." It takes FAITH. Simple child-like Faith.
---Gordon on 8/25/11


Donna, PLEASE. Eloy did not say that YAHUSHUA enthroned him! He said that he was with YAHUSHUA (JESUS) as He was on His Throne. Do we not now have access to GOD through HIS Son YAHUSHUA? Is YAHUSHUA not a Personable and Intimate God? If the Lord YAHUSHUA wants to call one of His children to come next to Him at His Throne...how can that possibly be a problem? How in the World can it be problematic? It's not "anti-Scriptural". God can do as He pleases. You really don't believe that? Eloy's Vision does not contradict GOD's Character. We will all stand before Him at His Throne one day anyhow. It really takes a child-like Faith to believe. GOD makes things simple. Man's pride complicates those things.
---Gordon on 8/25/11


MarkV, Why are you slandering Eloy? How are you slandering him? By your accusing him of saying (or implying) that he is God the Father. Eloy never said any such thing. Nor did he ever imply such a thing. It is YOU who are reading that into it! Also, Eloy did not say that he was "seated next to YAHUSHUA (JESUS)." He did not say that. You are reading that into it. Eloy simply said that "he was with Him". The Lord YAHUSHUA called Eloy up to Him as He was at His Throne. That is not in the least bit un-Scriptural. The Apostle Paul was called up to Heaven in the Presence of GOD. Paul was no bigger than Eloy. Just different people with different callings. Re-read Eloys comments because you have severely misquoted him.
---Gordon on 8/25/11


Rhonda, in fairness to Eloy, there's no evidence he's on drugs.
*****

Cluny I agree - I'm sorry I jumped to conclusions and accusations.

StrongAxe very good point.

Gordon I did give Holy Scripture in my post. If you read the two verses given they contradict Eloy's version of his "encounter"
---Rhonda on 8/25/11


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In the Orthodox tradition, we are taught one way to tell a true vision of Jesus Christ from a false one:

Look for the nail prints in the hands and feet, wound in the side, and thorn marks on the head.

Satan can imitate the glory of God, but he can NOT imitate the holy wounds of the Passion, as these are evidence of Christ's humility and obedience to the Father.

Satan cannot imitate these, because he is proud and disobedient, and said, "**I** will be like the Most High!"

Think about it!

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/25/11


Gordon:

1) I did not say Eloy's vision was not from God. I only said that we can't know for sure without any further corroboration.

2) If, hypothetically, I were to tell the people on this blog that I had a divine vision of you being tossed into hell, should everyone on this blog automatically believe it, and would the burden be on YOU to prove it wasn't genuine? I hope not! That kind of one-sided judgment was used at the Salem witch trials, and in the dark ages.

The bible often says truth is established by two or three witnesses. An uncorroborated vision is only one. When something is important, God usually tells many people.

God may reveal something to anyone, but that is not enough to require others to believe it.
---StrongAxe on 8/25/11


Why is it that some people seem to have hallucinations and call them visions???? Who is really given them those hallucinations???
---KarenD on 8/25/11


Gordon do you believe that eloy was seating next to Christ? Don't you know that Christ is on the Throne? And you have eloy seating with him. are you going to stand on your convictions? Are we not told that Christ is seating on the right hand of the Father? Are you suggesting that eloy is on the left handside of the Father. Can you explain yourself since you believe his vision.
---Donna on 8/25/11


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RHONDA, Please. You gave no "Scriptural proof" against Eloy's Vision. And, so you say you do not dismiss Visions from GOD. But, you're doing it now. You get on this Blog-Site and accuse Eloy and verbally rant and rave at him like a crazy-lady, and you expect THAT to be our "proof" that Eloy's received a vision from Satan? Where are some words of humility and "not judging someone before the time."? Sorry. GOD is much bigger than how you're viewing Him.
---Gordon on 8/25/11


Charlotte, Don't let him keep you on a back burner. Cut him off. Politely but firmly tell him to stop contacting you because you are finished with him. If he continues, change your phione number, and I'm not sure, but I think you can change your email address or else block his emails from coming to you.
---Eloy on 8/25/11


StrongAxe, Sorry, Brother. The burden of proof, as they say, is on YOU. Prove that he didn't have this Vision directly from GOD. He's simply telling us as it is. He doesn't have to prove anything. What's from GOD is from GOD. There is nothing unScriptural about GOD showing one of His children a scene from the Future. GOD surpasses the boundries of time (or didn't you know that?). If GOD wants to show someone a Vision of something that will take place, who are any of us to say that HE "does not do such things and therefore, it can't happen."? There is also nothing unScriptural about what took place in Eloy's Vision. All of the Past, Present and Future is GOD's. And it's HIS to do with as HE pleases. Our puny mouths shall be silenced.
---Gordon on 8/25/11


Gordon, no, I was not with him when he had that vision. And it's a good thing, because he has the wrong jesus. If he had the right Jesus, he would not say what he does about his wife, he would be praying for her for the glory of God, and for those who could learn the gospel through her, and come to Christ. He would not have three ways into heaven, and no one seats next to Christ but the Father who is in heaven. And I know he is not the Father. If you believe he is, then you too are dilussional. I am not surprise that you feel as he does. Just think, Jim Jones had over 900 followers, and they all died with there leader. Will you die also with your leader? he says he is the Father. You seem to believe that.
---Mark_V. on 8/25/11


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Rhonda, in fairness to Eloy, there's no evidence he's on drugs.

However, I would like to ask his ex her own side of the story. Wouldn't you? I'm sure it would be interesting.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/24/11


stand before the Great White Throne. My Lord was sitting upon his throne and I was with him, and I pointed at her!
---Eloy on 8/23/11

This coming from a demon who uses the name of G-d for himself.

A demon who now claims to have a Throne next to G-d Almighty.

NOTE: Jesus is gone from the scene replaced by Eloy.

Should we also use these name for you?
Adonai
Eloheim
Johovah
Shaddai............

YOUR THRONE HAS BEEN CAST DOWN SATAN! AND YOU CRAWL AMONG THE DUNG OF THE EARTH!

SOON TO FACE YOUR JUDGEMENT FOR THE ABOMINATIONS AND BLASPHEMIES YOU SPEAK BEFORE THE ALMIGHTY G-D!!!

FOR THE DARKEST HELL AWAITS YOU!
---John on 8/24/11


Do you not believe that GOD can show visions of things to come to certain people that He chooses to, as Eloy claims that He did?
*****

I NEVER said visions were NOT BIBLICAL

the vision Eloy had is CLEARLY not biblical and I PROVED IT using Holy Scripture

you simply insult yourself by serving Eloy's fantasies and CHOOSING to REJECT Holy Scripture

I don't have to ASK God HIS Word tells me Eloy is a LIAR

Christ said MANY would come in HIS name preaching contrary to HIS WORD

True Christians understand when they ASK Christ who is THE WORD is always there with answers!!

READ your Bible rather than bow down to people who claim they had a vision that is antichrist to Holy Scripture
---Rhonda on 8/24/11


Charlotte:

Don't punish your ex - but make it clear to him you don't want him to contact you any more.


Eloy:

Jesus told us to forgive our enemies. It sounds like you have never forgiven your ex.

Matthew 18:34-35
"And his lord was wroth, and delivered him to the tormentors, till he should pay all that was due unto him.
So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses."


Gordon:

We only have Eloy's word about his vision. We have no way of telling if this is a real vision from God or it just a dream or delusion. Yes, God grants visions, but not all visions are from God.
---StrongAxe on 8/24/11


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Charlotte, Are you a Christian? "Vengeance is Mine!" saith the LORD of Hosts. Our job is to forgive. If we do not forgive others of their injustices and sins against us, then, neither will GOD forgive us. Please read the Parable in MATTHEW 18:21 through 35.
---Gordon on 8/24/11


Rhonda (and MarkV), Were either of you there with Eloy, when GOD showed him what HE showed him regarding the Judgment Day? Did GOD not do such things for the Apostle Paul and John on Patmos? Yes, those Visions were put in the Bible to be shared with all. So, Eloy has shared his GOD-given vision with us all here. Your view of GOD is too small. Quit trying to put GOD in a nice little predictable box. You insult HIM. Are you both of such little Faith? Do you not believe that GOD can show visions of things to come to certain people that He chooses to, as Eloy claims that He did? Ask GOD for yourselves if He did as Eloy claimed. For Visions ARE Biblical!
---Gordon on 8/24/11


Charlotte, It sounds like you want to hurt your ex, but if he is an ex that means he is ex'd out of your life already so it is a waste of time to spend energy on someone who is no longer in your life. If you would be happier, you could stop talking with those mutual friends that each of you have and find new friends that are not his also, that would free up any awkwardness or bad feelings and thoughts you have because of him.
---Eloy on 8/24/11


Amen Markv

Eloy you are very foolish or writing your delusional bogus antichrist babblings high on drugs!!!

nothing that you posted is supported by Holy Scripture your post is one big fantastical LIE

Holy Scripture states Christ SIMPLY said go and sin no more John 5:14, 8:11

yet in your drug-induced state of mind you are transported someplace else PER your own writings ...funny thing the APOSTLES never experienced or wrote about such things

BIBLICAL CHRIST is the example written in the WORD

your idea's are foreign to Holy Scripture
---Rhonda on 8/24/11


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Sounds like you may have a problem. It is not your "responsibility" to punish or "teach" him a lesson. This is only a "job" for God.

Hebrews 10:30-31 (NASB77)
30 For we know Him who said, " Vengeance is Mine, I will repay."

You can control certain functions that can reduce his contact with you: for example, change your e mail address and phone number to an unlisted number. (Have you ever told him to leave you alone? Is he a serious treat to you? If so, you can always report him to the police, but don't do this if he's just "keeping you on the back burner". Why is he doing this, anyway. You can always pray that he will move and leave you alone.
---wivv on 8/24/11


markv, My sharing of the truth will not alter inspite of your dissings. You continue to post falsehood, so do not address me any further until you are ready to accept the truth.
---Eloy on 8/24/11


Their mutual friends from before the divorce have the right to remain friends with both of them.

AGREED with this, yet their mutual friends could also function as a "buffer against certain exagerations from the partner's side, on the other hand the ex could be unaware he put's her in such a misery by innosense, thats wher mutual friends come in handy, to sit down and to handle the situation?
on the other hand this does not annul my other advice
---andy3996 on 8/24/11


Eloy, you are a very sick person. I cannot believe that anyone would say what you say. So you were seating next to Christ on the Throne while your wife was been condemned, how self-righteous of you. You must have found a different way into heaven since you believe there is three ways. I hope you never get a church, or that people ever believe you. There is something very wrong with you. It's important for people to know there is people like you out there and they should never listen to you. You give a Christian a very bad name. The Word of Faith teachers say stuff similiar to you but you have taken the cake. No one is like you.
---Mark_V. on 8/23/11


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\\If so, go to YOUR friends (they are your friends?) and ask them to boycott him. If they do not, you know they are no friends of yours. \\

Their mutual friends from before the divorce have the right to remain friends with both of them.

It's Charlotte who is demanding that they take sides. This is probably really more what her posting is about.

Even Charlotte's friends have the right to associate with her ex WITHOUT her permission.

Something tells me she was a controlling biddy during the marriage, and has has not learned HER lesson.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/23/11


??? What ??? for the life of me I can not understand why you would want to punish and "Get Even" with someone...

IF he is causing you a serious distraction, ask your lawyer and see if a restraining order is proper.
Otherwise Why are YOU Living in So much BITTERNESS?

If you are as loving and forgiving as GOD has been and Is towards You, be just as forgiving towards him and move. Move on,move out pray for direction. If your heart is full of bitterness rage and revenge, Then are YOU in Loving Fellowship with GOD ?
---DBBMoG on 8/23/11


Charlotte:

I think the word "punish" got everyone's attention. If you were to leave it out of your post I think you would have received better answers.

However, to teach another person a lesson is difficult. Even to teach a child a lesson is difficult, but an adult is harder still.

I assume you have tried the simple stuff like asking for what you need. If so, go to YOUR friends (they are your friends?) and ask them to boycott him. If they do not, you know they are no friends of yours. Second, block his emails, block his phone number, and try to totally avoid him. Third, call the police on a possible stalking threat.
---Mark_Eaton on 8/23/11


JamesL, No, God showed to me the future Judgment Day, precisely that time when it was her turn to come up and stand before the Great White Throne. My Lord was sitting upon his throne and I was with him. She looked up to my Lord, and I pointed at her and said, "She Took." And her mouth dropped and her eyes widened and she was not able to bring any word for her unrepented sin. And thereby I witnessed her condemnation and nonacceptance into the Kingdom of heaven. God will not let sin into heaven, else she corrupt holy heaven as she did those on earth.
---Eloy on 8/23/11


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I think the best way for you "to punish and teach him a lesson."
Is to show him the women he is missing the one God made.
The one he fell in love with, the one that got away!

Jud_1:9 Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

Your love can do a lot more then, you can ever imagine!
You want to hurt him, show him the love in your heart.
But remember this sword will cut both ways!

Having is not as good as wanting.
Don't make a game out of it!
Be the women you are!
Peace and God bless
---TheSeg on 8/22/11


hi,my belief,bitterness..revenge..will cause you more harm than good..before really taking time to look n listen & understand ..God way is true,sweet,tested n tried! don't open the door of revenge! unforgiveness... Is it worth your health? God can repair a human heart! He did it for me..don't live miserable.... give every moment glory to God! I have grown closer to our Lord..I learn alot on hereto me..we are a family n Christ! Thankyou.... Love of Jesus! ELENA thank God He is my healer!
---ELENA on 8/23/11


Elder, Paul, obviously the woman needs help, but maybe that if she asked nicely some churchmembers could give him a Christian beating. LOL
if what she says is true, and it anoys her then she should go to the police. if (as i sense) she actually sees this as a exotic game and has secretely fun that he still can't live without her, she should indeed do a reality sheck. i think in reading this post, she just want to hold him on and she enjoys the "spell he's in"
ONLY MY FEELING
---andy3996 on 8/23/11


I agree with Elder somewhat, but hearing lessons from those who call themselves Christians could drive her over the edge if they listen to people like Eloy who hasn't forgiven his wife, to the point of telling everyone she is ex-d from the kingdom of heaven. His is not God so doesn't even know if he is ex-d from the kingdom of heaven. He might have assurance but it could be false assurance if he has the wrong gospel. That kind of advice no one needs. What Trish said is very good advice. Block him from your emails. And stop trying to hurt him. You are different and should be showing that by your conduct. Maybe one day he too will come to know the Truth. Pray for his salvation. And keep your distance from him. You cannot change him, only God can.
---Mark_V. on 8/23/11


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\\I have ex'd a woman, and she remains ex'd even from the kingdom of heaven.\\
---Eloy on 8/22/11

Did you make it official by pronouncing Anathema?
---James_L on 8/22/11


As has been said, revenge is for God to do, not you. Forgiveness and being kind is your job.

When my husband left me, I was told that living well is the best revenge. Move on with your life. Block his e-mails. Don't take his calls.

Then, get to a women's Bible study, and get some Christian fellowship and learn how to be a Godly woman. Make new friends. Get a hobby. Take up knitting and get together with others who like to knit.
---Trish9863 on 8/22/11


Why are you ex'd? Did he ex you, or did you ex him? and if you are ex'd, then why would you ever want to punish someone whom is no longer "in" your life? If you both are truly ex'd from each other, I find it strange that he is emailing and calling you. I have ex'd a woman, and she remains ex'd even from the kingdom of heaven.
---Eloy on 8/22/11


OK Paul, "God forbid that someone might get their life correct at a Christian site."
---Elder on 8/22/11

Elder

I dont think you fully understand what I am trying to say here.

Sometimes the best thing for someone is a reality check, what did you advise her?

Give her text she has probably heard a thousand times.

Show them how ridiculous and abnormal it is in a way that is irrefutable and they may reconsider.

Paul
---paul on 8/22/11


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OK Paul, "God forbid that someone might get their life correct at a Christian site."
Really it is not her attitdue that counts it is about what Christians, through Christ, do for her. Or is it that we only advise the righteous?
---Elder on 8/22/11


THEN MOVE!!!

another post by a poster who most likely will never contribute on any topic even the one they created!!

obviously the lesson you did not learn with your divorce is that YOU are no longer married and if YOU have the problem than it is up to YOU to take action and LEAVE the situation by moving AWAY!

many believe they can poison others with punishment to teach a lesson ...unaware that drinking poison meant for someone else ALWAYS backfires ...gosh did it ever occur to you that MAYBE your husband truly does care despite whatever happened in the divorce????

getting even never brings peace in ones body or MIND
---Rhonda on 8/22/11


Elder

You could almost taste the premeditation in this woman's tone.

When someone is to the point of seeking counsel on how to commit evil from what should be Gods Holy people, they are consumed in their lusts.

Therefore you can attempt to show them with scriptures that they probably already know or at the least they have over ridden their conscience.

Or you can just be bluntly straight up about it and cause them to see how ridiculous their ways are and perhaps cause them to meditate on that as opposed to evil.

Thats what I chose to do.

Paul
---paul on 8/22/11


You could always totally ignore him and block his emails. But, of course, you probably won't do that. Some people become addicted to the drama.
---KarenD on 8/22/11


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The Bible teaches us to be kind to our enemies and by so doing we heap coals of fire upon their heads. Be as polite as you would be to any person,no don't punish him for revenge it will backfire on you and its evil to seek to do anything for revenge. You are only on a backburner if you think you are. Don't look at yourself that way. What you do is get your life 100% right with God,read your Bible,go to church, and pray. Pray God will take care of the situation and then leave him to work in ways you can't even dream about. Tell him don't call again or Email you have moved on and thats all you say to him when you have either contact by him. when you see him say hi,move on and ignore him.
---Darlene_1 on 8/22/11


This one is TOO SICK AND EVIL for me to even joke about!!!

RIGHT ON PAUL!!! GREAT POST!!!
---John on 8/22/11


Com'on Paul... where else should this woman, or anyone, go for advice but to Christians? Some say there are too many hypocrites in church. Where else should they be?
This woman could go to a local gang member and have her ex-husbands legs broke for about 50 bucks, his car attacked for about 20 or completely "off the dude" for a "weeks fix."
Paul I want people like this coming to me for advice. When you think about it you will too.
---Elder on 8/22/11


Here is an idea. Create some lies about your husband and tell your mutual friends. This is what will happen your husband will be angry at you and start calling you more to figure out what is going on for a short amount of time then quit calling you. Your friends will figure out that you are bitter and a liar and stop hanging out with you. Then you will be left alone without any problems except that you have no friends. Remember revenge is a dish best served cold. It harms the aggressor (you) more than the target (husband). Do NOT do seek revenge. As far as the "back burner" tell him it is over.
---Scott1 on 8/22/11


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charlotte,

whether christ is ashamed of you is probably based on conjecture.

i am glad you have come to this website even if only for a moment. we know what to pray for and i do not think many here will agree to pray for punishment.

seek the Lord and he will teach you a lesson...a good lesson. it sounds like it may be difficult for a bit, but it is good news indeed.
---aka on 8/22/11


As a divorced man, I can understand the hurt and anger that you are going through.

I constantly have to remind myself that my ex, and other people, even at church, do not understand things. I don't think that they are trying to be mean. They just don't have all the facts and they also can't possibly understand everything that they should. Only GOD has the capabilities to completely understand each of us.

GOD commands us to Love Our Enemies. Matthew 5:43-48. Hard as it is.

We must forgive if we want to be forgiven. Hard as that is too. Matthew 6:9-15.

Punishing your ex is GOD's job and he'll take care of that. If you let him do so.

Your choice about what to do next.
---Augie on 8/22/11


Charlotte

How audacious of you to come onto a Christian web site and ask Gods people to assist you in your twisted maniacal deceitful ambitions for revenge.

And anyone who assists you in this effort should be ashamed of themselves, for you can rest assured that Christ is ashamed of you.


Paul
---paul on 8/21/11


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