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Why Remarry After Divorce

2 Corinthians Chapter 11 says: For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ. What does Paul mean by this? If Christ be that ONE husband, then why do Christians remarry after a divorce?

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Is there any justification for a woman to divorce her husband if her husband committed murder or high treason and has to spend the rest of his life in prison?

Or should she rightfully move on with her life?
---leej on 9/12/11

Was he guilty? Does he repent? Is he a Christian?

Is she? Did she know,approve or assist? She knew his characteristics....and married them.

Moses killed an Egyptian. His wives would never have anything to do with him. Not.
He obviously doesn't need her anymore. He'll be taken care of. He'll make it fine without her support.
Maybe Not.

Maybe these people need to search their heart and scripture for themselves? Who can judge another mans entanglements by a Blog.
---Trav on 9/13/11


Is there any justification for a woman to divorce her husband if her husband committed murder or high treason and has to spend the rest of his life in prison?

Or should she rightfully move on with her life?
---leej on 9/12/11


Trav, Thank you for your response. "Chria, as you stated. You weren't pleased to stay any longer." I see why you say that, however, more accurately, I came to a point of tolerating no more, as you say, remained at home with our children, gave him options, he chose to leave, not give up his ways, and continued to do so for years afterwards. I met frequently with my pastor, and another through all for prayer, counseling. I was advised, encouraged to take legal action for several reasons which I won't go into, but was given full custody of the children. He was only allowed supervised visitations, which he mostly did not choose to take advantage of. "remarrying" him is not an option even if I desired. I've prayed much about it.
---chria9396 on 9/12/11


Trav,
Half of the truth is none other but lie. ---Eloy on 9/10/11

Eloy,
I couldn't agree more.
Is why most preachers run or howl loudly, when faced with multiple scripture witnesses. Their cemetary teachers didn't prepare them for Prophets testifying against them.
The could prepare themselves, but they trusted their teachers of men. Instead of the only teacher.
They follow that which they presume is authority, to be fair.
Matthew 23
8But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ, and all ye are brethren.
10Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

12And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased, and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
---Trav on 9/12/11


Trav, the condition in the verses quoted, being pleased to dwell with her/him, IMO, means more than a verbal assent.
I stayed in an abusive relationship far too long, believing that I 'should' such grounds as these.
---chria9396 on 9/10/11

Chria, as you stated. You weren't pleased to stay any longer.

GOD divorced/put away. There is a point of no more tolerance.

Everyone has to measure their own situation.
Jer 3:8
And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce, yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.
---Trav on 9/12/11




Young girls getting pregannt outside of marriage is sin. And woman who dump their husbands and take the father's children from them and sleep around with other men is also sin. People need to get back to the Holy Bible and follow the instructions from God to man that are written in it, else people will reap nothing but ungodliness and woe for themselves.
---Eloy on 9/11/11


Sag//* Adultery happens ONLY ONE TIME. After that, marriage.

Well, after studying these points, I agree with every one, but the LAST one.
-----
If I were to bet on this one, I would bet that the AOG pastor considered fornication the same as adultery and was guilty prior to his own marriage.

People often go too far prior to their own marriage.

Of course, that is one reason why some people should marry - the temptation of the flesh is far too great for them to resist.
---leej on 9/11/11


There are many things, in EVERYONE's life, that only God completely understands.

Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage isn't the only one.

I have personally known loving Christian couples that were unable to EVER have their own children. Heartbreaking for them and others too.

Yet, the news is filled with stories that about 40% of American babies are born to unmarried mothers today. Often, the fathers willfully abandon their kids and only support them because of court orders. A very hard life for these kids and their mothers.

Situations that I just can't comprehend. Only God knows all the WHYs behind things.
---Sag on 9/11/11


Dee - I can understand your situation as I have seen it all too often. There are many who are the victims of the sinfulness of others.

And among some that proclaim the name of Christ, you will always wear a "D" on your forehead for 'divorced'.

While that is unfair, we need to encourage others to listen and try to understand the situation of others and above all to love others.

Yes, I see nothing in Scripture that forbids you to re-marry as you make needs that may not be met.
---leej on 9/11/11


Dee_Springer, A-men sister. Dear Lord Jesus, my heart goes out to Dee_Springer. Papa, I lift her up to you here, please be with her Lord, and thank you for keeping her. Heal her from the Lupus, bless her life real good Papa, heal her body and heal her soul, and make her well through and through. Let each day that comes and goes, bring to her renewed strength and health and life. Yes Lord Yes, waves upon waves, of blessings upon blessings, flow over her and through her Jesus. In you Lord Jesus, my Love and my God, I pray here, A-men.
---Eloy on 9/11/11




Why remarry? I can only speak for myself. I am godly AND human. When my husband walked out he said, "I'm tired of having a sick wife. I deserve better than you." I have lupus but kept up with the house and our son.He had never said he was unhappy to me, his family or friends. He would not go to counselling or discuss his decision. I tried everything I could but his path became very dark. For me, I was made to be a helpmate. I was made to be part of a couple. I have not remarried but I would as I was created for this. His leaving didn't change who I am. I feel sad for him but I have peace knowing I have not been unkind and wish him well. I thank God for comforting me.
---Dee_Springer on 9/11/11


Augie, A-men. No person whom has zero personal knowledge of a intimate married couple's divorce, also has zero voice to judge against the couple's divorce. There are too many MISjudgers and Foul-mouthed Hypocrites among church-goers and church-leaders. These sinners are quick to pounce upon the innocent divorcees and badmouth them and maltreat them. Shamedly to the church people, sometimes the worldly nonchurch-goers give much more Christian love to divorcees then those whom are in the church which should know better.
---Eloy on 9/10/11


When a person is a Christian, the Almighty Holy Spirit leads us aright in our lives, and addresses specific situations that may not be detailed for us in the scripture.
---Eloy on 9/10/11

Very Well Said.

As a divorced man, I've come to realize that many people just don't understand what we're living through. Some seem to mostly understand, some not at all. This goes for Family, Friends, Strangers, etc.

It seems like a never-ending challenge to "keep my cool" in situations like when reading all the comments on this blog. Some are irritating, while others informative. I'd be interested in knowing what other folks think.

Thanks for adding your encouraging comment.
---Augie on 9/10/11


When a person is a Christian, the Almighty Holy Spirit leads us aright in our lives, and addresses specific situations that may not be detailed for us in the scripture. For example, If in the evening you see your wife behind the bushes alone with another man, or if you come home from work and find your wife on the couch scantily dressed with two other men, one sitting on either side of her with their shirts off and flirting with her, and they all have lust clearly written on each of their faces. Would you say, "Well done good and faithful wife, remain in my joy, and continue with your partners?" No, by no means.
---Eloy on 9/10/11


Trav, When half of a truth is applied from scripture it is not right, and the enemy delights in picking pieces and parts to support sin, rather than administer the whole passage for the truth. Half of the truth is none other but lie. The child is not the subject of the passage, but the issue of remaining married vesus divorcing is the subject. And the whole truth of the passage is if the NonChristian spouse is pleased to live with the Christian, then the Christian should not divorce. "But if the unbelieving leaves, let them leave. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such: but God has called us to peace. For what know you, O wife, whether you will save husband? or how know you, O man, whether you will save wife?" I Cor.7:15,16
---Eloy on 9/10/11


Some time ago, an Assemblies of God pastor from California gave a Divorce Recovery message at my church.

He gave everyone a booklet with these facts:

* God meant marriage to be permanent.
* Christians do NOT divorce.
* Divorce isn't the end of the world.
* Remarriage is allowed because the Bible is silent on the issue.
* Adultery happens ONLY ONE TIME. After that, marriage.

Well, after studying these points, I agree with every one, but the LAST one.

Adultery is going to influence & affect every part of your life. For as long as you live.

I just can't seem to grasp how this pastor seemed to twist Remarriage as being the same as Marriage.

---Sag on 9/10/11


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Trav, the condition in the verses quoted, being pleased to dwell with her/him, IMO, means more than a verbal assent. A spouse may claim such, but prove otherwise in actions such as continued adultery, abuse/abandonment. To dwell with, means more (to me) then simply going about doing one's own will, coming 'home' when and if one chooses only to use/abuse/control according to one's whim. I stayed in an abusive relationship far too long, believing that I 'should' such grounds as these. I was wrong, harming myself, but more importantly, my children.
---chria9396 on 9/10/11


Trav, you are posted half a truth which becomes a lie. Read I Cor.7:15,16 for the whole truth.
---Eloy on 9/10/11

This was't personal Eloy.
Posted only scripture. Why did you wait to post "ur", "whole truth".
Scriptural answers should be sought by the person with the particular situation.

Scripture needs witnesses for anyones opinion to have merit. Note the "Child" was the one in inherent danger.
14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean, but now are they holy.
---Trav on 9/10/11


Amen Trav

Many overlook 1Corin 7:14 and are unaware of the great responsibility they have to their unbelieving spouse ...by marriage their unbelieving spouse is sanctified by GOD - this alone shows True Believers the awesome responsibilities they have in life when GOD would sanctify their unbelieving spouse because they are united as one in marriage!

Christians cannot divorce their unbelieving spouse if they do they BREAK this sanctification for their spouse to serve themselves and their own lusts ...further if they were TRULY Believers they would understand they are not free to remarry
---Rhonda on 9/10/11


Trav, you are posted half a truth which becomes a lie. Read I Cor.7:15,16 for the whole truth. The whole truth in that passage is not that the nonbeliever is sanctified by the believing spouse, because not all unequally yoked marriages are sanctified, for when the unbeliever chooses to be antiChrist then there is no sanctification in the marriage, but two lying in the bed- one will be taken and the other will be left, two hanging oin the cross- one will be taken and the other left, and a man's enemies may be they of his own houselhold. If your right hand offend thee, cut it off and cast it away from you, for better that one of your members perish then to have your whole being cast into hell.
---Eloy on 9/10/11


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the Christian who divorced the sinner, is 100% free to remarry a Christian if he or she so chooses.
---Eloy on 9/8/11

Verses 1-40 have more extensive advice.
1Cor 7:10unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

12But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.

13the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.

14For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean, but now are they holy.
---Trav on 9/9/11


If Christ be that ONE husband, then why do Christians remarry after a divorce?
---anon on 8/23/11

In the Bible:

Isaac was Abraham's and Sarah's son. Born of the SPIRIT. Within their family.

Ishmael was Abraham's and Hagar's son. Born of the FLESH. Out-Of-Wedlock.

Marriage, and Divorce & Remarriage, seem to follow this pattern.

A First marriage is of the SPIRIT. Blessed and Holy foundation.

A Remarriage, after Divorce, is of the FLESH. Sexual Fantasy, or LUST, being the foundation.

GOD lets us CHOOSE which path we'll follow.
---Sag on 9/9/11


Darline, I totally agree with your answers. People insist living by the law. Been in Christ means nothing. As if there is no forgiveness, no Mediator. While there are rules that should be followed, they are for our good. And many times husbands are abusers, they are not submissive to Christ. How can those laws even apply? shear nonesense. While there is people who want to divorce for purposes that are wrong, and we know that because of all the blogs that are presented, there is many good reasons why those rules do not apply. If it is by our works then breaking one rule breaks all, but we are saved by Grace through faith. Not by any works we do. The blood of Jesus sacrifice is sufficient to save anyone no matter what that person has done.
---Mark_V. on 9/9/11


To a Carla3939, I once said:

"Carla3939,
You are definitely the marriage cop of CN! You would not happen to be one those 'overcomers' who did not divorce even having grounds (endured and tortured) until eventually had no need to divorce on account that your husband is too old and feeble to cause you any further harm?
---Nana on 5/23/09"

She repplied:
"Nana,

spreading malicious gossip is a sin and you need to apologise!
---Carla3939 on 5/23/09"

I never did apologize and she never did say.
---Nana on 9/9/11


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Because when a Christian divorces a sinner, they are not divorcing Christ but cutting off that antiChrist member from their life. And the Christian who divorced the sinner, is 100% free to remarry a Christian if he or she so chooses.
---Eloy on 9/8/11


Carla it is sad you must judge me according to your beliefs,rejecting Bible verses,so you can tell me I am Hell bound. I have never understood how faith walking Christians could believe God would set an unbeliving spouse free to make a new life and forbid it for his own children who he loves. Binding them to forever be unmarried when they have been obedient to God. That makes no sense to me. When the Bible even says let the younger widows remarry after death of spouse. When a person is unbound or not bound they are released just as surely as they would be if spouse was dead. Believe what you please but don't judge my walk with God,thats not your right.
---Darlene_1 on 9/8/11


[[it is the same as if the spouse is dead and when a spouse is dead you are free,not bound by moral or legal obligation,or contract and can remarry.]]

this arguably is you opinion, and you just cannot add to the word of god for your own personal interpretation Darlene 1 this is not rightly dividing the word of god. It is an additional gospel and dare I say. For the word declares if anyone preaches another gospel that person is accursed.

Gal 1:9
As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
your addition simply is not there, but what is there is in (summary) Paul encourages PEACE not Re-marriage.
---Carla on 9/8/11


Trav, What you do is teach about Israel. You have not move on to the Spiritual Israel, ....---Mark_V. on 9/8/11

Mark, as discussed this before. You've the desire, but not faith in GOD to believe fully. It is found when one realizes GOD can/will do what he says, with or who he says. Whether one personally can logic/agree or not. He is a righteous GOD. It will be OK. Changing/adding too scripture just puts one in unecessary danger.
There is no OT Prophet that will back or witness with you in your doctrine. You call it moving forward. I call it going against or ignoring the Prophets.
---Trav on 9/8/11


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Trav 3: The first time the name "Israel" is used, it was a spiritual name given to Jacob (Gen. 32:28). Given to him for his spiritual victory, means "Prince with God" There is many parallels between the history of Israel and the history of Jesus Christ. Joseph had dreams and went to Egypt (Gen. 37,39). In the New Testament we find another Joseph who had dreams and went to Egypt (Matt. 2) In Hebrew history God called Israel Out of Egypt, He called that new nation "MY son" (Exo. 4:22). When Jesus came out of Egypt, God said "Out of Egypt I called My Son" (Matt. 2:15). In Ps. 80:8, Israel was called a vine, Yet Jesus Christ declared "I am the true Vine" John 15:1.
---Mark_V. on 9/8/11


Trav, I only know of one way into heaven, through Jesus Christ. What you do is teach about Israel. You have not move on to the Spiritual Israel, Jesus Christ.
Israel is mentioned as the vine, the servant. God also spoke of "Israel My elect" (Isaiah 45:4). Again, God said through Isaiah, "Behold! My Servant whom I uphold, My Elect One in whom My soul delights" I have put My Spirit upon Him: He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles. He will not cry out, nor raise His voice, nor cause His voice to be heard in the street. A bruised reed He will not break, and smoking flax He will not quench, He will bring justice for truth" (Isaiah 42:1-3). All of those words originally applied to the physical nation of Israel.
---Mark_V. on 9/8/11


Trav 2: 800 B.C. the Lord said through Hosea, "when Israel was a child, I love him, and out of Egypt I called My Son" (Hosea 11:1).
If you notice the first Gospel picks up in Matt. 2:14 and declared Hosea 11:1 fulfilled in Jesus Christ.
In Matt. 12:16-20 after healing a large number of people, Jesus warned them not to make Him known, that it might be fufilled which was spoken by Isaiah the prophet, saying "Behold, My Servant, whom I have chosen, My Beloved in whom My soul is well pleased. I will put My Spirit upon Him, and He will declare justice to the Gentiles.." Matthew is doing the same thing he did with Hosea 11:1, He is quoting Isaiah 42:1-3. It was again fulfilled by God's Servant Jesus Christ.
---Mark_V. on 9/8/11


Carla sorry,but I am not wrong. A woman is bound to her husband by marriage,and under the law of her husband therefore when the Bible says a person is no longer bound it means literally a person is free from that spouse completely. 1 Corinthians 7:39 A woman is bound to her husband as long as he lives. But if the husband dies she is free to marry-. Since 1 Corinthians 7:15 -if the unbeliever leaves a man or woman is not bound in such circumstances-. The Bible/God says she or he is not bound it is the same as if the spouse is dead and when a spouse is dead you are free,not bound by moral or legal obligation,or contract and can remarry.
---Darlene_1 on 9/7/11


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"Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written"
I sure hope you don't believe that literally.
---Mark_V. on 9/6/11

Romans is written to "All" living of Israel.
Northern House Divorced and Judah/Benjamin.
Judah will be jealous having turned their backs on the divorced brothers of Israel...now that they are virginized by the death of Christ.
Rom 7
1Know ye not, brethren, (for I speak to them that know the law,) how that the law hath dominion over a man as long as he liveth?

2For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth, but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
---Trav on 9/7/11


Darlene 1,

You are wrong in what you said.

The scripture reports that the unbelieving may depart, that person is not bound.

However where does it say you can RE-MARRY.

Okay lets look at what scriptures you did quote.

Matt 19:9

ONE [except] except-ion and one only.

2Ti 2:15
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
---Carla on 9/7/11


//This is the only kind of divorced the AOG will remarry and that can be found in their doctrine/rules.

However, even if the AOG recognizes the right of an individual to divorce on scriptural ground alone, and will permit them to re-marry, they will bar those that have been divorced & remarried from holding church office. They will point to the verse in Timothy that forbids polygamist from holding church office. This was the experience of a good friend of mine at Arlington AOG when they received in a new pastor. They cleaned out all those who had been divorced & re-married.
---leej on 9/7/11


//What i sayd was a "free interpretation" to translate the idea that indeed CHRIST IS THE GROOM of the BRIDE (CHURCH) NOT THE FATHER NEITHER THE SPIRIT. ---andy3996 on 9/6/11

free interpretation? best if you leave interpretation to the witness of the prophets that Jesus requires. to be honest, your attempt probably raised more questions than answers.

There much more free interpretation in the denoms now than there is Truth, and that is why the majority body is weak and confused as it is fed with fluff and not stuff.
---aka on 9/7/11


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Sag with all due respect you are very much mistaken the Assembly of God does not condone remarriage except when it lines up with the Bible. There are two reasons given for divorce,if a spouse commits adultery Matthew 19:9 I tell you anyone who divorces his wife,except for marital unfaithfulness,and marries another woman commits adultry(note the exception) and if an unbeliever leaves a Christian 1 Corinthians 7:15-if the unbeliever leaves--a man or woman is not bound in such circumstances(note not bound). In both cases they are free to remarry. This is the only kind of divorced the AOG will remarry and that can be found in their doctrine/rules.
---Darlene_1 on 9/6/11


//If Christ be that ONE husband, then why do Christians remarry after a divorce?

Because in context of 2 Cor. 11, the divorce is acquired by dying to the law and re-marriage is to Christ spiritually, not in a physical sense.

In a similar way, one may re-marry upon the death of a spouse and still be married spiritually to Christ and the Gospel.
---leej on 9/6/11


Andy, you said something I hear all the time,
"Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written"
I sure hope you don't believe that literally.
That would mean every single Israelite since their existence will one day be saved. Murderer's, blashpemers, Idolaters etc. They are all Israel. I hope you are with me.
Many apply this to a mass conversion of Isralites. The context reveals otherwise. When Paul wrote that "all Israel will be saved" he didn't mean that at some point every Jewish person would find salvation, for in the same chapter he wrote,
"if by any means I may provoke to jealousy those who are my flesh (Jew) and save some of them" (v.14)
---Mark_V. on 9/6/11


Andy 2: Why would Paul provoke those to jealousy in to save some, when he said they would be saved?
Paul said,
" And they (individual Jewish people) also, if they do not continue in unbelief, will be grafted in (v. 23)." There's that tiny word "if."
Lets say "all Israel will be saved" the question is, which Israel? Romans 9:6 "they are not all Israel who are of Israel" There's an "Israel after the flesh" (1 Cor. 10:18) and an "Israel of God" (Gal. 6:16) made up of Jewish people and Gentiles who believe in the Messiah.
Applying all Israel who are separated from God's Church is to deny the accomplishments of Jesus Christ on the Cross.
---Mark_V. on 9/6/11


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in the last ten years the Jewish messianic society in Israel went from less then 2000 to over 20.000 confessing believers, that is a 1000%+ increase i think and believe that the LORD is calling Israel back.
---andy3996 on 9/6/11

Yeah that would equal 1800 per year. 0.00009% coming in based on jews being 20,million in world. They are passing on faster than they are coming in.

Israel, the Lost Sheep Northern House have already answered the call. They slipped in the gate without your help or recognition.

John 1:11
He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

John 5:43
I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive.

And u do.
---Trav on 9/6/11


Will Israel REPENT and RETURN to GOD?
Romans 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
bible says it will
in the last ten years the Jewish messianic society in Israel went from less then 2000 to over 20.000 confessing believers, that is a 1000%+ increase i think and believe that the LORD is calling Israel back.
---andy3996 on 9/6/11


leej,

Many pastors today are not called, they are self appointed so where there is untruth there is no God. where there is confusion God is not the author.

Don't tell me non ''christians'' [not that I believe in christ-mass] are so ignorant, they never knew marriage was for life, not just for ''christmas'' like people go out and buy a puppy and discard it after Christmas is over.

It is their mess and they have to live with the consequences. You make a choice, so you have to consider the options, life or death. sin or eternal life?

Chose ye this day whom ye will serve, man or mammoth. God or the devil?

you preach one can have both God forbid, NOT SO!
---Carla on 9/6/11


Likewise. It is scripture that sharpens....not trav. Those that have no scriptural witness...are opinion or false doctrines of men. Usually brainfashioned by denom cemetary/seminary's.
---Trav on 9/6/11

I think that your terminology is humorous. LOL!

I was born Catholic and received my brainfashioned education in the Assemblies of God [AOG].

The AOG supports the remarriage of divorced persons. I do not. Permissible, but NOT God's plan for anyone. Man or Woman. Not MY opinion, just what the Bible says.

Proverbs 27:17 -- "Iron Sharpens Iron ..."

Helps overcome brainfashioned thinking too.
---Sag on 9/6/11


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Jeremiah 3:8
---Trav on 9/6/11

Thanks for the additional information / corrections.

---Sag on 9/6/11

Likewise. It is scripture that sharpens....not trav. Those that have no scriptural witness...are opinion or false doctrines of men. Usually brainfashioned by denom cemetary/seminary's.

Isa 54:5 For thy Maker is thine husband, the LORD of hosts is his name, and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel, The God of the whole earth shall he be called.

6For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.

7For a small moment have I forsaken thee, but with great mercies will I gather thee.
---Trav on 9/6/11


The Father (married to Israel)
the Son (married to the church)
The Holy Spirit (the best man of Christ)

---andy3996 on 9/5/11

Same goes for Israel. They were sinful and divorced GOD, but .....
Will Israel REPENT and RETURN to GOD?

---Sag on 9/5/11

They were sinful, but GOD is the one that put them away....the Northern House of. Judah was not put away. Jeremiah 3:8
---Trav on 9/6/11

Thanks for the additional information / corrections.

I'm not perfect and need the fellowship of others.
---Sag on 9/6/11


AkA Revelation 22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
What i sayd was a "free interpretation" to translate the idea that indeed CHRIST IS THE GROOM of the BRIDE (CHURCH) NOT THE FATHER NEITHER THE SPIRIT.
---andy3996 on 9/6/11


The Holy Spirit (the best man of Christ) ---andy3996 on 9/5/11

????
---aka on 9/6/11


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Same goes for Israel. They were sinful and divorced GOD, but .....
Will Israel REPENT and RETURN to GOD?
---Sag on 9/5/11

They were sinful, but GOD is the one that put them away....the Northern House of. Judah was not put away.
Jeremiah 3:8
And I saw, when for all the causes whereby backsliding Israel committed adultery I had put her away, and given her a bill of divorce, yet her treacherous sister Judah feared not, but went and played the harlot also.

Judah has not nor will not repent...yet.

But her sisters of 10, the other house has for 2000 years.
Matt 15:24, Heb 8:8.
---Trav on 9/6/11


Trav
GOD cannot break his law. GOD cannot die.
Christ did.
New Covenant Heb 8:8/Jer 31:31.
Ten Virgins,Coins,Servants....

this idea sounds good but of course makes you to deny the treefold personality Of God, and you need to accept for (trinity this falls in the UNITY teaching of God
the father the son and the Holy Spirit as ONE PERSON. what is your vieuw on the trinity?

The Father (married to Israel)
the Son (married to the church)
The Holy Spirit (the best man of Christ)
---andy3996 on 9/5/11


A man, and a woman, get married. It is their FIRST marriage.

This couple's marriage is: a PHYSICAL relationship, a LEGALLY recognized one, and a SPIRITUAL one before GOD.

Heaven forbid that this couple gets divorced. However, GOD recognizes that that is a possibility in this sinful, fallen, world.

The PHYSICAL part of the couple's marriage will come to an end. There are still LEGAL consequences because of the marriage. GOD doesn't recognize the SPIRITUAL end of a marriage.

In GOD's eyes, the couple is STILL MARRIED. That is WHY any remarriage is sinful adultery. Get It?

Same goes for Israel. They were sinful and divorced GOD, but HE is still married to HER.

Will Israel REPENT and RETURN to GOD?
---Sag on 9/5/11


2 Cor 11 says: ...I have espoused you to one husband
What does Paul mean by this? ----Blog Question

The entire Bible is a love / marriage declaration.
GOD married Israel...(10 plus little Judah,Benjamin) Jer 3:1,8,11,14,18 & 20.
They committed adultery, were put away...all but Judah. Isa50:1
Thus saith the LORD, Where is the bill of your mother's divorcement, whom I have put away?
But....he would remarry(Hosea 2:16,19,20,23. He would have to die or break his own marriage law. Get it?
GOD cannot break his law. GOD cannot die.
Christ did.
New Covenant Heb 8:8/Jer 31:31.
Ten Virgins,Coins,Servants....

Remember...we are human and do as humans...aspiring to be Christ like. Repenting.
---Trav on 9/1/11


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//But if they were truely Christians, they would NOT have lived together before marriage. Or, even gotten married at all because of his divorce.

And what if they became Christians? Would you advise them to separate? Or would you view them as married in the Lord?

Herbert W. Armstrong - worldwide church of God - came to the conclusion that those who were married after divorce were living in sin and ordered them of his church to separate. Of course, this caused the breakup of several families.

His successor church does not hold your view on divorce & re-marriage.
---leej on 8/26/11


you should tell her and show her what the word of God says and then tell her, "Sis you are considered an adulteress woman." Tell the truth at all cost. That's what Jesus did, didn't He?

God permits divorced people to remarry? Jesus said they are called an adulteress, so where did I miss scripture saying God permits it?

---anon on 8/26/11

Neither my Sister, nor her Husband, are Christians.

Religious? Yes.

But if they were truely Christians, they would NOT have lived together before marriage. Or, even gotten married at all because of his divorce.

I've alread been told to keep my mouth shut about what the Bible says.

I believe that all I can do is pray for their salvation.
---Sag on 8/26/11


To answer your question as to why Christians remarry after divorce: they aren't suppose to according to the Bible.

Matthew 5:32 (NASB77)
whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

From everyday life, I've seen divorced Christians remarry and have a successful marriage, but are limited in what they can do from a spiritual perspective
---wivv on 8/26/11


Reading the questions about divorce and remarriage I think of the question,DOES GOD FORGIVE DIVORCE AND REMARRIAGE?
---mima on 8/26/11


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//My sister's marrying a divorced man was difficult for me to accept. But I support her decision. What else could I do?

I should mention that while GOD PERMITS divorced people to get remarried, HE does not APPROVE of them doing so.
---Sag on 8/25/11//

Sag, you should tell her and show her what the word of God says and then tell her, "Sis you are considered an adulteress woman if you remarry." Tell the truth at all cost. That's what Jesus did, didn't He?

God permits divorced people to remarry? Where does it say that in scripture? Jesus said they are called an adulteress, so where did I miss scripture saying God permits it?
---anon on 8/26/11


God does NOT accept remarriage...where does it say in scripture, "I the Lord accept remarriage."

It doesn't and now this is posted on a board where thousands of people are reading this and will think it's okay to remarry.

---anon on 8/25/11

My sister's marrying a divorced man was difficult for me to accept. But I support her decision. What else could I do?

I should mention that while GOD PERMITS divorced people to get remarried, HE does not APPROVE of them doing so.

In this world, you, myself, and everyone else, can decide to do things either GOD's way, or the World's way. In either case, we reap the Blessings / Consequences of our choices.

---Sag on 8/25/11


//However, God does bless second marriages specially if the divorce was based on Biblical grounds. your answer= I don't think so!

Our God is in the business of restoring people and bringing them into a right relationship with Himself.

My observation has been to the contrary. In fact, I know of some that have come to faith after divorce and re-marriage.

Divorce and re-marriage are not forbidding in scripture and that has been the position of the church since its conception.
---leej on 8/25/11


Where does it say one can re-marry after a divorce?

1Co 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.

Matthew 5:32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except on the ground of sexual immorality, makes her commit adultery. And whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Permission to divorce does not preclude that one can re-marry.

Historically the church has ruled that some divorces & re-marriages are valid.

God has not given any guarantees that anyones marriage will not end in divorce.

I can be thankful that my marriage has lasted nearly 35 years but there are no guarantees.
---leej on 8/25/11


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//I DO NOT "approve" of remarriage. I just "accept" it among my friends and relatives. But only because GOD does likewise. Sag on 8/24/11//

God does what? God does NOT accept remarriage...where does it say in scripture, "I the Lord accept remarriage."

It doesn't and now this is posted on a board where thousands of people are reading this and will think it's okay to remarry.

My friend divorced her husband and remarried a year later because she fell out of love with her husband. She is in her second marriage (2 yrs) and is suffering greatly and now wants me to counsel her as to what to do and I won't. She shouldn't have remarried in the first place.


---anon on 8/25/11


//God CAN NOT bless sin. Remarriage, where the former spouse is still living, is sinful adultery, and displeasing to God.
---Sag on 8/24/11//

RIGHT ON Sag! Bless you!!! You're not afraid to speak the truth.

NO WHERE did Jesus say, "If you get divorced for reason of adultery, you can remarry."
Man decided that it is okay to remarry, God did not.

Man screws alot of things up and then expects God to come and clean up his/her mess. We reap the consequences of our sins just like King David did when he committed adultery and killed Bathsheba's husband.
---anon on 8/25/11


However, God does bless second marriages especially if the divorce was based on Biblical grounds.
---leej on 8/24/11

I don't think so!

The ONLY remarriages that God can bless are those where the original marriage ended because one of the spouses physically died.

Exodus 20:14 --> "Thou Shalt Not Commit Adultery"

Matthew 5:32 --> "Whoever Marries A Divorced Woman Also Commits Adultery"

And lots of other Bible verses that explain that.

God CAN NOT bless sin. Remarriage, where the former spouse is still living, is sinful adultery, and displeasing to God.
---Sag on 8/24/11


//I DO NOT "approve" of remarriage. I just "accept" it among my friends and relatives. But only because GOD does likewise.

However, God does bless second marriages especially if the divorce was based on Biblical grounds.

The injured party is not often the one that has the sin. One can be a victim of deceit by another.
---leej on 8/24/11


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//It is likely that Moses himself was divorced as he was married to Zipporah and there is no record of her death. Either that or he was a bigamist.//

Then almost all of the men in the Bible got divorced because only a few deaths of some women are recorded. Only Jacob's wife Racheal comes to mind right now.

---Scott1 on 8/24/11


It is likely that Moses himself was divorced as he was married to Zipporah and there is no record of her death. Either that or he was a bigamist.

2 Cor. speaks of being divorced from the law and then belonging to Christ. We are the church, the bride of Christ.
---leej on 8/24/11


I know you are a man of God, so I'm assuming you're just giving your opinion here, not based on scirpture.
---anon on 8/24/11

I DO NOT "approve" of remarriage. I just "accept" it among my friends and relatives. But only because GOD does likewise.

My values concerning Marriage are what GOD declared in Genesis. When HE created: the Earth, Adam and Eve, gave them the Garden of Eden, and commanded them to grow their family. Genesis 1:1-28

SIN is what interrupted GOD's plan. It began when Adam and Eve ate the forbidden fruit. Genesis 3. GOD was saddened then and has been ever since.

Remarriage is just a Band-Aid for sinful wounds on the family as GOD designed it.
---Sag on 8/24/11


//Sag on 8/24/11 said: The result being that many marriages just do not work out. That is the ONLY reason that I can find for GOD permitting remarriage//

Sag, while I admire your Love for the Lord, it's YOUR reason and it's not a correct reason to remarry. You're giving your opinion, that's not in God's word, that you can remarry because many marriages just do not work...where did God say that in the bible? I can't find it, thus it's incorrect. Like I said, I know you are a man of God, so I'm assuming you're just giving your opinion here, not based on scirpture.
---anon on 8/24/11


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KarenD, Anon:

GOD is GOD and his ways are HIGHER than ours.

Isaiah 55:8-9.

GOD's plan was for: One Man, and One Wife, For Life.

However, we do live in a Sinful, Fallen, world. The result being that many marriages just do not work out. That is the ONLY reason that I can find for GOD permitting remarriage.

Many folks come to Jesus Christ after the failure of their marriages. Still, remarriage is very tough on anyone.

When I see the Hurt that many Men, Women, and Children, suffer -- from Divorces, and/or, Remarriages, I just can't stop asking GOD -- again, and again, WHY all that is permitted.

I just need to gather my emotions and remember that GOD's ways are Higher than mine.
---Sag on 8/24/11


KarenD, that doesn't mean it's right...Jesus said whoever leaves and remarries is an adulteress...why do you constantly water down the word? and compromise it? I bet you remarried and that's why you're defending it, right? Is Jesus a liar? Or did he mean what he said about remarrying?
---anon on 8/24/11


Sag...Lots of remarriages work out.
---KarenD on 8/23/11


My sister is married to a divorced man.

I consider any Remarriage -- where the former spouse is still living -- to be Spiritual Rebellion.

The family is Catholic and our church is "One Of The Few" that doesn't believe in "Divorce & Remarriage".

My sister and her boyfriend got married in a church that does permit that. Legal, but not pleasing to God.

1 Corinthians 10:23 -- I would add "Divorce & Remarriage" in this category. Permissible, but not necessarily good for you.

Just the fact that MOST remarriages don't work out demonstrates that it isn't good for people.
---Sag on 8/23/11


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Anon

This is strictly in a spiritual sense.

We are the Bride of Christ and he is the Husbandman.

Therefore we are to live separately from sin which is what we are to be divorced from thus allowing Christ to present us as a chaste virgin to himself.

It is not speaking in terms of a fleshly husband but a spiritual one.

Paul
---paul on 8/23/11


Because they have been falsely taught that God approves remarriage after a divorce.
Jesus spoke to this that Moses permitted hardhearted Israelite men to divorce their wives, and for those wives to marry another. He went on to say, "But I say unto you ..."
This "but" is vitally important. As is the phrase "I say unto you ..."
Only in the case of a husband learning that his wife was a fornicator before they were married is the marriage annullable.
---Al on 8/23/11


I donot really see the connection between the scripture (which refers to the church) and your question (which refers to the individual in the church, can you enlighten us a little where your going with posed question?
GOD IS GOOD
---andy3996 on 8/23/11


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