Did Jesus Commit Suicide
Hi, In what sermon does Fred Price say: Jesus committed suicide? I am not doubting he said it, but I need the actual footage for a report.
Moderator - Jesus DIDN'T commit suicide. That would be a gross misunderstanding of what happened on the cross.
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---MarciaK on 8/25/11
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Marcia, your are probably not around anymore, but my answer is that Fred Price says many things that are not biblical. After all, he is a "Word of faith" teacher. They come out with more false statments then anyone else with a purpose in mind. And it is not for the glory of God. Here is why, he says,
"God can't do anything in this earth realm except what we, the body of Christ, allow Him to do" He is saying, the God of heaven and earth, cannot do anything unless we let Him. Shear nonesense. Is that for the glory of God? I don't think so. He is for the glory of man, the reason many here belief they have power over God with their false free will. They listen to too many lies from those W-of-faith teachers.
---Mark_V. on 3/31/13|
He put himself "in harms way" for us, it was not suicide. He was playing the hero for the would be brothers and sisters that are to be adopted into the family of God. He is a family man. A Good Brother. A Best Friend. A Son with whom THE FATHER IS WELL PLEASED.
---born on 3/30/13|
People need to wake up and read the scriptures and stop following these false prophets. God is not pleased people Wake up So Called Saints!!!
---ShirleyHarrell on 3/28/13|
The only report I will be looking up is that which states that Christ is the son of the living God, all else garage is associated with the anti christ... so why would anyone want to look this up? It proves nothing other than this man has something very dam-mining associated with his name.
Suicide is a situation associated with people who do not know the Complete truth therefore having no hope in Jesus Christ.
So how can this ministry lift Christ up?
Don't be given into false teachers Christ is risen..
---Carla on 9/5/11|
You cannot associate God/Jesus Christ with anything bad. HE is the author of GOOD.
---Adetunji on 9/1/11|
Agree MarkV. They present another god, obedient to man. So true. Some equate boldness with this, and we all need to be in continual prayer to guard against all deceptions. God will reveal.
---chris9398 on 8/30/11|
They present another god, obedient to man.
---Mark_V. on 8/29/11
Very well put,
---paul on 8/29/11|
Bill-willa, there is pastors who make a mistakes that later correct themselves. But we know, because so much information is out there, that the Word of Faith teachers are false teachers. They present another god, obedient to man. If the unity of the Christian faith is to be preserved Christians should not tolerate and embrace what the Word of Faith movement is handling out: A false Jesus, another gospel, and a different spirit. While the Faith movement is undenialbly cultic, and particular groups within the movement are clearly cultic, it should be pointed out that "there are many sincere, born again believers within the movement" these believers for the most part, seem to be wholly unaware of the movement's cultic theology.
---Mark_V. on 8/29/11|
As christian we need to ask this man to step down. He is teaching false Doctrine. WE need a movement to stop this false teacher.
---Pastor_von on 8/29/11|
The only train of thought I can remotely ponder would be when Jesus said He willingly lays down His life.
He gave Herod the power to pronounce judgment upon Himself and could have at anytime called Angels to deliver Him.
And He commanded His own Spirit to depart as He gave up the Ghost.
This is the only sense I can make of such a foolish statement.
But laying down His life is not taking His life, the Sanhedrin performed that task.
---paul on 8/27/11|
I Just watched a video concerning this. The sermon title in which Bro. Price attempted to explain himself is "six principles to obtaining strong faith. Part 13." Therefore I would presume Part 12 is where he actually said it. He did not deny that he said it, so apparently he did. Perhaps equating a laying down of a life as suicide. Of course it is not. He should have simply admitted to a bad choice of words. He did not, he attempted to justify the choice by quoting Mat 26:31. That was a mistake, but who among us has never made one? Hopefully, as a pastor, He will eventually acknowledge his error.
---Josef on 8/28/11|
I do not watch him, so I cannot tell you. Nonetheless, it is recorded and publicly witnessed that Innocent and Holy Jesus was martyrd and killed by those antiChrists whom greatly hated him and desired him to be slain, and so they took and murdered him, but then the Innocent One rose up again from the dead, for he is proven that he is The Lord Almighty and The Judge of all the earth.
---Eloy on 8/28/11|
Therefore doth my Father love me , because I lay down my life , that I might take it again.
No one took anything from Christ, nor did he commit any such act, No one gave him anything to brag or boast about or made him do anything, He is the son of the Living God.
The word demonstrates that He lay his life down. HE also took it back up, Christ is risen and is LORD
---Carla on 8/26/11|
Jesus did not commit suicide any more than jumping in front of a bullet to save someone is suicide. It was an act of love by choosing to give up his own life to save ours.
---Jed on 8/26/11|
Foolishness, plain and simple.
---Eloy on 8/26/11|
It was years ago when Fred Price said in a sermon that Jesus did not die on the cross, because Jesus committed suicide.
I know this to be a fact because I heard Fred Price say it with my own ears, and saw it with my own eyes.
Fred Price use the passage of scripture found in John 10:17-18. This is just another perfect example how those of the Word of Faith Movement do what is written in Romans 1:25.
---Rob on 8/27/11|
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I suppose you could do an Internet search with "Fred Price", and "suicide", and "Jesus", and see if you get a message saying he said that. But if he did say that, in what wording did he say it, and what does the overall message show that he means?
Of course, I don't know if you really need to be making that report. Our attention needs to be mainly with God and all that is right that He is sharing with us . . . not to be getting decoyed to just exposing wrong people or be mainly criticizing, etc.
We won't get favor with God, only by pointing out what is wrong! especially if we have not done as careful a job of making others aware of how we ourselves can be wrong!! (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 8/26/11|
Bruce, your answer was a great example concerning the soldier. How he sacrificed himself to save the rest. The soldier knew he would die yet sacrificed himself. He could have saved himself and left the rest to die, but didn't. The same was true of the Lord Jesus Christ. He had told His disciples three times He was going to die and how He was going to die, so that others could live.
Caiaphas, the high priest said that Jesus should be executed in order to spare their own positions and nation from Roman reprisals, but Caiaphas unwittingly used sacrificial, substitutionary language and prophesied the death of Christ for sinners (John 11:41-53, 2 Cor. 5:21, 1 Peter 2:24).
---Mark_V. on 8/26/11|
If a soldier throws himself on a grenade to save the life of his fellow soldiers do we say he committed suicide? or he sacrificed himself.
---Bruce5656 on 8/26/11|
Jesus did not take his own life (i.e. suicide). He offered up his own life for others to take (i.e. self-sacrifice). These are very different.
---StrongAxe on 8/26/11|
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If Christ committed suicide, He sure choose a painful way to do it. Don't think Fred Price ever said that. And, "NO", Christ did not commit suicide, to answer your question.
---wivv on 8/26/11|
*sigh* And Fred Price is listed as a Wolf in Sheep's Clothing, so it's not surprising that he worded it the way he did. The Moderator is right. YAHUSHUA (JESUS) did not commit suicide. It'd be relatively more accurate to say that He was murdered. But, it even goes way beyond that. YAHUSHUA, as God of very GOD, layed down His own Life as a Ransom for many. No one took His Life from Him, He layed it down at the Altar of Golgotha. That's way different than suicide. Suicide is a way of escape from troubles and seeming hopelessness, etc. YAHUSHUA was not an escapist. He faced Life head on. And, He fulfilled the Mission of His Father God to Completion.
---Gordon on 8/26/11|
Since Jesus did not raise His own hands against Himself, no this was not suicide.
However, I think the real question being asked here is if Fred Price actually said this, and where it can be verified.
BTW--I have no interest in Fred Price. There are better people to listen to.
Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 8/25/11|