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Are christians to join with jewish, muslims, hahai, and hindu religions to promote global tolerance and peace making this world a better place to live? (Interfaith Ethics, and Tolerance conference)

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"You..you..hate..lie..I..interpreted..".."I..you..intolerant..incompassionate..hate..Your"..You..lying..you..I..incompassionate..hate..incompassionate..hate...-Jed on 9/23/11
"..mean..hateful..you.."..lies..attacks..I..you..I..you..your..attack..me..your distortions..bad..Lev_20:10..Joh 8:7..-Rocky on 9/23/11
..lies..distortions..attacks..I..lie..You.."I.."..lie..you..you..enemies..You"..you..hate.."..lie..I..lying..attack..me..your..distorted..You..lie..lie..distortion..distortion..You..lying-Rocky on 9/23/11
..me..evasive..I..I..I..your..we..you..we..sin..mean..hate..you..I..I..other..we..kill..our..-Jed on 9/23/11
--Distortions-out-mouth-heart-speaks. Let's see...
---micha9344 on 9/23/11


Rocky, You just keep lying about what you wrote.
Jed 9/23/11
You have not shown one place I lied, but I have shown many where you did and where you grossly distorted what I said. You again made this bogus charge so you are lying again, not me,
You ask "How can you possibly say that I am incompassionate and hateful for endorsing God's laws without implying that God and his laws are also incompassionate and hateful." Elementary. God provided his OT laws with love to bring us to Christ. Most were replaced and we are commanded to love all. When you use dead OT laws to justify hate you are doubly wrong, incompassionate, and hateful. Again you falsely accuse me of the error you commit. Pathetic.
---Rocky on 9/23/11


Jed you made a long string of lies and distortions on this thread through many posts for which you owe me an apology. Repeatedly you ignored when I proved you wrong and instead of admitting your error and apologizing you launched into new personal attacks on me to deflect attention from your old lie. You now have a long string of lies stretching through about 8 posts. I choose to waste no more time on your lies on this thread. Your misapplying Gods OT commandments and ignoring his NT commandments to love all is one of the reasons that Interfaith Conferences are needed. I dont say they are Biblically commanded, but might aid in helping us all to better learn to love one another.
---Rocky on 9/23/11


Jed, when you dont understand something perhaps it would be best to first ask a question to gain understanding instead of misinterpreting what I person wrote and falsely calling them a liar. And after they explain you perhaps should acknowledge it, thank them. And when you make the error of falsely accusing them because you neglect to ask for understanding first, and especially when you make personal attacks, you should apologize. And you should repent and stop doing it. You should try to learn from your mistakes.
---Rocky on 9/23/11


"You wrote "since you obviously think that God used to be a hater in the OT" - another lie. I never thought that or wrote anything that could be interpreted that way." -Rocky 9/23/11

"I do not make you out to be intolerant, incompassionate, or hateful. Your endorsing of those OT commandments does that" -Rocky 9/23/11

Rocky, You just keep lying about what you wrote. How can you possibly say that I am incompassionate and hateful for endorsing God's laws without implying that God and his laws are also incompassionate and hateful.
---Jed on 9/23/11




make God's laws out to be mean and hateful, as you do.
Jed 9/223
And the lies and bogus attacks continue. I only listed the commandments and asked if you follow them, I made no evaluation of them. Any thoughts you had are your own, please stop attacking me for your distortions and bad thoughts. But regarding many of the OT laws, compare the NT:

Lev_20:10 the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.
Joh 8:7 He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
---Rocky on 9/23/11


More lies, distortions and bogus attacks from Jed on 9/23/11
I never "changed" any scripture but only reported KJV. You lie, .
You say "I have actually posted scriptures vebatim that say otherwise". That is a lie. Please show one scripture you say you posted that tells people not to love their enemies or anyone.
You wrote "since you obviously think that God used to be a hater in the OT" - another lie. I never thought that or wrote anything that could be interpreted that way. Please stop lying about what I wrote or think and attacking me for your distorted words. Unbelievable. You just pile lie on lie and distortion on distortion. You should repent and stop all this lying.
---Rocky on 9/23/11


Rocky, Why call me evasive? I don't know how I can be any more clear. I answered your question. Yes, we are to follow every one of God's commandments, including the ones you listed. Of course we live in a sinful society that make it a crime to do so, and make God's laws out to be mean and hateful, as you do. So I will admit that from lack of courage and faith I and other christians do not adhere to them as we should. Also, many of those commands, such as putting people to death for crimes, were meant for offical authorities to execute, not everyday people just running around killing each other. Of course our corrupt government is not doing as it should to enforce God's commands.
---Jed on 9/23/11


\\ Even changing the scripture "Love the Lord your God... and love your neighbor as your self" to "Love God and love all people". It does not say all people, none of the scriptures you quoted do as you suggest.\\

Jesus made it clear that all people are our neighbors.

Haven't you heard?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/23/11


your answer to Cluny on 9/20/11, you made it clear you were standing for Islam.
MarkV 9/23/11
More lies and distortion. Maybe several on this site simply cannot comprehend the written word.
All I did in that post was make it clear that people who condemn ALL Muslims based on the words of the Koran should recognize that there are a lot of sects that interpret the Koran differently just as Christian sects interpret the Bible differently. The Bible is not without rigid punishment like the Koran. Those are facts Do not good Christians stand for truth against bearing false witness? I wrote nothing that should be interpreted as "standing for Islam", Do people born of the Spirit lie and distort this way?
---Rocky on 9/23/11




Rocky, did you not read my posts at all? CN finally posted my answer concerning God's Commandments in the OT.

Why do you continue to misquote scripture to fit your liberal agenda? Even changing the scripture "Love the Lord your God... and love your neighbor as your self" to "Love God and love all people". It does not say all people, none of the scriptures you quoted do as you suggest. However, I have actually posted scriptures verbatim that say otherwise, using just Jesus' quotes alone, since you obviously think that God used to be a hater in the OT before coming to the light of liberalism and changing his mind.
---Jed on 9/23/11


It's sad to hear you call the scriptures "bogus". How are they irrelevant?
Jed 9/22/11
There you go distorting and lying again, Unbeleivable. Its perfectly clear that I called your statements bogus and not the scriptures. And I explained how they are irrelevant to the point you were arguing. It is really pathetic that you like others here keep distorting what is written and lying to try to defend your bogus position. You should try to live a Christian life - your lies and distortions are not part of one. And if God were saying not to love people when He says don't love the world, then He would be commanding us to love no one, which contradicts other commandments. How ridiculous and stupid.
---Rocky on 9/23/11


I don't think anyone does because we are all imperfect human beings that fall short
Jed 9/23/11
The only reason you state for not following those commandments I listed is that you are not perfect? Well that means you believe it is still Gods command to put people to death for working on the Sabbath and stone people for cursing God. Why not just state that and not be evasive? Imperfect usually means that you try and fail. Have you ever tried to obey those commandments? Get your church or others to follow? I believe those commandments like other parts of the OT do not apply today. But why dont you work on your imperfection, become a better Christian by stoning a curser today.
---Rocky on 9/23/11


You, like many in this society, make those of us who want to follow God's commands out to be intollerant, incompassionate, and hateful.
Jed 9/22/11
More lies and distortions. I believe those that follow God's commands are tolerant, compassionate, and loving people. I simply asked on 9/21 you if you followed several of God's OT commandments and if we should be following them. I am not making you out to be intolerant, incompassionate, and hateful. Your endorsing those OT commandments does that, not me. I was showing you cannot use all of the commands of the OT to prove what one should be doing today, and I showed that, although you still equivocate. Shame on you for you more lies, distortions, bogus attacks, and false witness.
---Rocky on 9/23/11


Jed,
You just dont get it. If you love your friends, your neighbors and your enemies you love everyone, as God commanded us. So if we love everyone, you love those who are friends or enemies of God too. It is really quite simple. God made it that way only two basic commandments: just love God and love all people. You complicate it to your own corruption. You try to twist things to justify your desire to hate others. And you deny Gods love that he loves the world as he said.

Why do you keep making additional posts without answering the questions I asked about the OT commandments several posts ago and previously on another thread?
---Rocky on 9/22/11


Rocky, I have tried to answer your question several times and my answer never gets posted. I am not evading anything.

It's sad to hear you call the scriptures "bogus". How are they irrelevent? You say that Jesus has commanded us to love and be inclusive of everyone, but a sword doesn't exactly imply that does it? Also, the second verse does not say not to be lovers of "things" as you said. It said not to love "the world" and that if you love "the world" you do not have the love of The Father in you. Anytime the Bible uses the term "the world" it is refering to the people, not things. As in "for God so loved the world" and "be not of the world".
---Jed on 9/22/11


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Do you follow all OT Bible commandments? ---Rocky on 9/21/11

No, I'm sure I don't. I don't think anyone does because we are all imperfect human beings that fall short, and sinful society has made it a crime to follow most of them. Do you imply because we can't possibly follow all of God's commands all the time, that we should not even try to live according to them at all? You, like many in this society, make those of us who want to follow God's commands out to be intollerant, incompassionate, and hateful. Well God IS intollerant to sin. But it is because of his love and compassion that he gave us these laws to keep us from living in the destruction and perversion we do today.
---Jed on 9/23/11


Aparently not for you since you seem to be quite fond of every religion in the world that hates and kills Christians.
Jed 9/22
What a stupid, bogus, and childish distortion. Obviously a gross exaggerations for which you have no facts and therefore a wrongful attack. Do you think it is OK to attack people about subjects you could not possibly know? It just proves how unChristian you are and that your statements are foolish and lack credibility. I am shocked to see such lies and bogus attacks on a Christian blog, and yet I have seen ones like it repeatedly on this blog. I guess they figure it is OK to exaggerate, distort and lie like the politicians do. Bad role models Jed.
---Rocky on 9/23/11


Rocky, with all due respect on your answer to Cluny on 9/20/11, you made it clear you were standing for Islam. Not only did you do that but you compared them to Christians. All you had to do was say what you thought of Islam and what you know about them but why compare them to Christianity? You gave them a good report and a bad one for Christians. I know many on line live close to this people, and maybe have great relationship with them, but when it comes to religion, they are our enemies. God put that enmity between both seeds in Gen. 3:15 not I. That is why I asked you if you were a Christian. While there is many things wrong with all people, there can be nothing wrong with those who are born of the Spirit. We are One body in Christ.
---Mark_V. on 9/23/11


Rocky 2: You did not hurt my feelings with your answer when you apologized. I know that through the website it's hard to show what emotion state we are in. Sometimes we can and other times we cannot. Concerning the other questions, I really did not answer to them because I really don't know where they come from. I was expecting for you to open your spiritual mine and speak from a spiritual point of view. When you answered you answered as if someone was attacking you, but the problem is a religious one. All come short of the glory of God, no matter what religion you are in. As Christians we are called to love our neighbor but not to love their satanic believes. They are our enemies.
---Mark_V. on 9/23/11


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You did not seem to have an answer for the two verses I posted.
1)"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword." 2) "Do not love this world nor the things it offers you."
--Jed 9/21/11
I did not address them because neither has anything to do with loving or not loving people who hate God or contradicting his commands to love all. They are totally irrelevant, bogus. The first applies to all - Gods friends and enemies. It has nothing to do with loving either group. The seconds about not loving things not people and likewise it never tries to differentiate between friends and enemies of God.
Just bogus.
---Rocky on 9/22/11


Now Jed please stop stalling and evading and respond to the questions I asked on 9/21 regarding the OT commmandments. I also asked them on another thread and never got an answer. Why are you being evasive? Since you say ALL the OT is still relevant you must be keeping those commandments. It should be easy for you to verify that.
---Rocky on 9/22/11


Aren't God's enemies your enemies? I certainly hope so.
---Rocky on 9/22/11

Aparently not for you since you seem to be quite fond of every religion in the world that hates and kills Christians.

But for me, yes God's enemies are my enemies. But that does not mean my enemies are his. This blog site alone is proof that two people who love God can still be enemies of each other, as we see Christians verbally abusing each other here, all trying to defend their belief in God. That scripture says to love those who hate YOU, not GOD. And to love those that persecute YOU, not those who blaspheme and mock GOD and kill his people. I don't expect you to understand the Bible since you don't even believe in the majority of it (OT).
---Jed on 9/22/11


Rocky, you are a good guy standing for people, but you cannot support their religion.
MarkV 9/22/11
Why do you ignore my early post wherein I wrote I never said I supported Islamic theology, but I do love them and will not stand idly by while bigots wrongly attack them, spreading hate. I challenge you to show any place that said I believed in or supported their religion. I am very disgusted at the number of times people on this site have grossly distorted what I wrote and then reproved me for their lies about what they say I wrote. Its right in front of them in black and white and yet the choose to distort it. And on a Christian site. Unbelievable.
---Rocky on 9/22/11


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But none of them command us to love those who make themselves God's enemies. You blatantly lie when you say that Jesus commands us to love those who hate God.
Jed9/22/11
No you lie because I already listed some in earlier post.
Mat 5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you,
Mat 5:45 That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven: for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good, and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
Aren't God's enemies your enemies? I certainly hope so.
---Rocky on 9/22/11


Rocky, those verses you listed state to love your neighbor, one another, and even your own enemies. But none of them command us to love those who make themselves God's enemies. There are certainly no verses that command us to love sin, defend anti-Christ religions and tell others to learn about them. Actually the exact oposite, there are many verses that tell us to beware of them and have no fellowship with darkness. You did not seem to have an answer for the two verses I posted. You blatantly lie when you say that Jesus commands us to love those who hate God. That is just absurd. Love has nothing to do with getting along with everyone and making peace with enemies of the cross.
---Jed on 9/22/11


Do you follow all OT Bible commandments? ---Rocky on 9/21/11
Do you follow any of them Rocky? Any? Which ones?
--Trav 9/22/11
No, I follow none of the ones I listed, but I am not the one saying all the OT is still to be obeyed. That however seems like what you are espousing. And I have asked you and 4 others the same questions,
but NOT ONE has answered, instead all ignoring or spinning them like Jed. Seems some Christians here are better at spinning and pivoting questions than most politicians. Why is it that those who keep saying all of the OT is still relevant cannot answer some simple questions about specific OT commandments?
---Rocky on 9/22/11


Rocky, you are a good guy standing for people, but you cannot support their religion. I have nothing against individuals. Islam is satanic religion. It's founder Muhammad, preached from satanic visions he had. According to the Meccan chronicles..recorded in the Sahih Moslem annals, all Jews were anathema and were to be annihilated.
"Allah's messenger has commanded:
"Allah's messenger (Muhammad) may peace be upon him - has commanded" Fight against the Jews and kill them. Pursue them until even a stone would say: Come here, Moslem, there is a Jew hiding behind me. Kill him, kill him quickly."
No Christian should support Islam. They are not from the promise. They are from satan's seed.
---Mark_V. on 9/22/11


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Thanks Bro. Elder. it really bothers me for people to come to the U.S. and enjoy our freedom and yet want to change our laws. This country was founded on religious freedom and that just means the government isn't suppose to interfere with worship of our Savior. California couple arrested for bible study in their own home. sic sic
---shira3877 on 9/22/11


Do you follow all OT Bible commandments? ---Rocky on 9/21/11

Do you follow any of them Rocky? Any? Which ones?

Killed anyone lately?
Can't part with little bronze Buddha on the shelf?
Lusted after that neighbors BMW next door?
Only when her husband is in it?

Hebrews 8:10
For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:
---Trav on 9/22/11


Jed, you missed the opportunity to answer my questions on the other thread before it closed. Would you please do so here: Do you follow all OT Bible commandments? Should we put to death everyone that works on Sabbath (Ex35:2)? Is it OK to sell one's daughter as a slave (Ex21:7)? How can we confine women that are menstruating for 7 days or ensure we have no contact with them (Lev15:19)? Or for two weeks when a woman bares a female child (Lev12:5)? Do you still give burnt and sin offerings to your priest? How can we stone people for cursing (Lev24:14) and not be sentenced to death ourselves Have you ever stoned anyone for it?
---Rocky on 9/21/11


Rocky, why do you love people who hate the living God? Is this what Jesus commanded?
Jed 9/21/11
Yes. Your denials thereof are ridiculous. Show one place where Jesus commanded people to only love fellow believers. That's stupid.
Mat_5:44 But I say unto you, Love your enemies,
Mat_19:19 love thy neighbour as thyself
Mar_12:31 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
Joh_15:12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
Joh_15:17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
Gal_5:14 Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Eph_4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love,
---Rocky on 9/22/11


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Rocky, why do you love people who hate the living God? Is this what Jesus commanded? No, He said not to be lovers of this world, but to love the Lord. He gave the disciples a commandment to love one another, meaning fellow believers, not those who mock Him and violently reject His Word.

"Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword."

"Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you."
---Jed on 9/21/11


Way to go Shirley. There are many who don't want to hear the truth. The liberal media will not report the truth. The muslims there and in government won't allow it. Muslims converting to Christianity are murdered all the time. The information is there for all to see if they want.
Thanks Shirley keep on with the work!!
---Elder on 9/21/11


Mark, when I go back and read my post to you from earlier today, I can see that the tone might sound as if it is negative towards you. This I did not intend and for which I apologize. I know you ask questions in earnest with good intent and respect your post.
---Rocky on 9/21/11


Rocky, now you really got me confused.
MarkV on 9/21/11
Yes, you are confused. Yes, I am Christian, and believe that every Christian should attack lies and defend people, including non-Christians, who are being wrongly attacked with lies. I never said I supported Islamic theology, but I do love them and will not stand idly by while bigots wrongly attack them, spreading hate. Neither should you. Where-in have I expressed "anti-support to Christianity"? Can you explain? By Christianity do you mean Christ's teachings or does it include the unrighteous and horrible acts committed by errant Christians supposedly on His behalf, like the medieval and Spanish inquisitions and Christian Crusades that tortured and killed millions?
---Rocky on 9/21/11


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There's a site about jihad run by Robert Spencer.
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so? I'm not a jihad and NOT EVERY muslim is a jihad you're simply ignorant in making that claim

FANATICS in EVERY religion including christiandom and clearly many distort Holy Scripture even on this very topic to prove they hate not love

Christ STATED His Kingdom is NOT of this world ...also to repay evil with LOVE

one cannot repay evil with love when they ban together to HATE another group whatever that group holds to ITS truth

when you ignorantly label ALL within a group you simply embrace hate and the god of this world Satan
---Rhonda on 9/21/11


MarkV, "The division between those of the Seed of Christ and of seed of satan is first found in Gen. 3:15 when God said to the serpent,
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her "Seed." He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel".Agree. Also, James 4:4
"You adulterous people, dont you know that friendship with the world means enmity against God? Therefore, anyone who chooses to be a friend of the world becomes an enemy of God"
---Chria9396 on 9/21/11


Rocky, now you really got me confused. Are you a Christian or not? Why your support for Islam? And your anti-support to Christianity? Can you explain? I really thought you were a Christian even when I did not agree with your Hindu blog.
---Mark_V. on 9/21/11


Mark_Eaton,

working and eating together to serve the poor is good. however, if you prayed together, you did worship together, but it was to the god of humanism.

God's revelation of Himself does not depend on me.

//Remember, some plant, others water, and God harvests.//

Remember God plants, God waters, and God harvests.
---aka on 9/21/11


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Nope, Christian puritans remain pure from idolatry.
---Eloy on 9/20/11


Apparently, Rhonda, you've not actually read what mahometans themselves say, especially the comments about Jews in the Coran.
--Cluny 9/20
There are more different sects with different beliefs in Islam than there are Christian sects, and look at all the disputations of Christians over white the Bible says. Cluny, do you follow the command to stone people that curse God (Lev 24:14) and to kill everyone that works on the Sabbath (EX 35:2)? I wonder what Muslims who read those verses think of Christian beliefs.
---Rocky on 9/20/11


this for all who misunderstood my post. I don't hate anyone ever. I don't hate people but I do hate what they stand for. You can call me anything you want. God sent His Son to die for all but some will never accept that. I pray for their souls will be saved. I will always hate what they stand for...always.
---shira3877 on 9/20/11


\\Are you really that ignorant? you claim ALL muslims hate jews and americans? Do you even KNOW any muslims? \\

Apparently, Rhonda, you've not actually read what mahometans themselves say, especially the comments about Jews in the Coran.

There's a site about jihad run by Robert Spencer. The rules of this site don't allow me to give the URL. Look it up, read it, and weep.

\\Even the media doesn't try to make that assumption.\\

Of course the media do not make that assumption, because it's politically incorrect.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/20/11


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All wanted shria law. Like I said, all you need to do is read the paper, oh and get your head out of the sand.
---shira3877 on 9/20/11

He will, when the trumpet sounds.
Luke 6:45
A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good, and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh.
Proverbs 14:19
The evil bow before the good, and the wicked at the gates of the righteous.
Proverbs 14:22
Do they not err that devise evil? but mercy and truth shall be to them that devise good.
---Trav on 9/20/11


There will never be peace in the world because Christ is peace and not many want Christ. He is the way, and not many want to go His way. The division between those of the Seed of Christ and of seed of satan is first found in Gen. 3:15 when God said to the serpent,
"And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your seed and her "Seed." He shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise His heel" From that moment on, there has been division between those born of the promise, and those that are not. Shira is right. Take your heads out of the sand, and read the Word of God. Stop thinking with a sinful mind, think with a spiritual mind.
---Mark_V. on 9/20/11


I can also get on here and act all pious and say muslims are peaceful but we all know that isn't the truth
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no more than you or anyone else could get on here and say ALL "christians" are all peaceful cuz we darn know that ain't the truth either

you may SELL yourself and attempt to sell your filth THAT your wicked comments are really about "oppression" however the truth stands - you are simply delusional in your own private belief that REJECTS Holy Scripture because you still SELL racism in your hate

as for "getting my head out of the sand" funny don't find that in Holy Scripture

having many muslim friends I can now say you sicken me

peace
---Rhonda on 9/20/11


Rocky, I am not a soothsayer so can't see in the future. God has blessed me with a little portion of wisdom. Did you read about the two daughters in Texas killed by their father because one had a boyfriend? How bout the wife murdered in N.Y. by her husband for I don't know what. All wanted shria law. Like I said, all you need to do is read the paper, oh and get your head out of the sand.
---shira3877 on 9/20/11


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I do read the paper and keep up with news they can just kill their daughters and wives for one small infraction.
--Shira3877 9/20/11
How many times have you read about one of the 2.4 million Muslims in THIS country killing their wives or daughters for one small infractions? You state "It will soon by their religous freedom but it won't be your freedom to worship a Holy God." How soon will it be? 10 years? 20 years? 100 years?
---Rocky on 9/20/11


Rhonda and Rocky, I do read the paper and keep up with news especially middle east. I can also get on here and act all pious and say muslims are peaceful but we all know that isn't the truth. The truth is muslims hate America and now we have shria law the muslims what to bring to our country. That way, they can just kill their daughters and wives for one small infraction. Isn't that just great???? Get your head out of the sand and see what is going on around America. How many mosques' have been built in the past twenty years in America? It will soon by their religous freedom but it won't be your freedom to worship a Holy God. It has nothing to do with rasism either...it has to do with freedom from oppression and terror.
---shira3877 on 9/20/11


Really, though, the only thing that tolerance breeds is compromise in one degree or the other.

If I tolerate too long it becomes compromise.
---Elder on 9/19/11


Elder, pardon me when I use that last phrase. You polished the silver of it.

The scripture below fits the times we live in.

Malachi 2:17
Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them, or, Where is the God of judgment?
---Trav on 9/20/11


Rhonda, Muslims are not part of a race but a religion. Therefore criticism of them is not racism.

However I agree with you that all Muslim's should not be 'tarred with the one brush' as many are excellent people. Sadly though the Koran does command racism, violence and terrorism. Fortunately most Muslim's do not follow it, or not all of it.

As the saying goes: Not all Muslim's are terrorists but almost all terrorists are Muslim.

However we will get nowhere by hating all Muslim's. We need to show the love of Christ to them. That is ok in the west but showing the love of Christ in most Islamic countries will put the Christian in a life-threatening position.
---Warwick on 9/19/11


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Maybe you need to keep up with the news. muslims hate jews and americans.
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I'm becoming more stunned with the self-professing christian community and their bigotry on this site - this is the second hateful race statement I have seen posted on here in less than a week!!!

Are you really that ignorant? you claim ALL muslims hate jews and americans? Do you even KNOW any muslims? Even the media doesn't try to make that assumption.

hate is taught ...when you spread LIES about hate you only seek to hate as well
---Rhonda on 9/19/11


Maybe you need to keep up with the news. muslims hate jews and americans.
--Shira3877 on 9/19/11
Current estimates place the number of Muslims in the world at about 1.4 billion, with only about 20% of the total living in the Middle East. Do you think all Muslims hate Jews and Americans? There are approximately 2.4 million living in the US. Do you think they all hate Americans? Maybe you need to learn some basic facts and not make such obviously stupid generalizations. In an earlier post you called Muslims murderers, another equally shameful statement.
---Rocky on 9/19/11


cluny, I don't know what hahai is but I know it isn't from the one and only God. If it was, it would be in my King James bible. Ask the blogger who ask the question. Israel will live in peace if the other nations who surround them will leave them alone and stop trying to take their land. Maybe you need to keep up with the news. muslims hate jews and americans.
---shira3877 on 9/19/11


aka, of course tolerance breeds peace. And if you don't believe me I'll slap your face.....
Really, though, the only thing that tolerance breeds is compromise in one degree or the other.
My tolerance for a moment may be just a chance for me to explain Spiritual things to you from God's perspective.
If I tolerate too long it becomes compromise.
---Elder on 9/19/11


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These christians want to make Jesus puke. Rev 3:16

kumbaya
---aka on 9/19/11

I have worked side by side in serving lines at Christian rescue missions with Muslims, Jews, Atheists, Catholics, and etc. I have yet to feel that Jesus would have "puked" at what we did, what was said, or what was accomplished.

We did not worship together, but we prayed together, worked together, and ate together.

I know this sounds cheesy, but your testimony, the love of Christ you show to others, may be the "only" Jesus they ever see.

Remember, some plant, others water, and God harvests.
---Mark_Eaton on 9/19/11


Matthew 5:9 Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.

Hebrews 12:14 Follow peace with all men,

Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men.

Ofcourse those who are spiritually minded should take the lead in such matters of peace, and christians should not be so skeptical about efforts to make peace. We work in factories and bussiness with people of all religions and we have to far more than " tolerate" their religion and culture we have to work with it. Some of our bossed are of other religions and we still go to work.
Be more open minded, look at the things that all religions have in common which can lead to a more peaceful world
---Francis on 9/19/11


Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with ALL MEN.
---Francis on 9/19/11


"If"...it be possible.

As much as lieth in you.

Isaiah 65:22
They shall not build, and another inhabit, they shall not plant, and another eat: for as the days of a tree are the days of my people, and mine elect shall long enjoy the work of their hands.

2 Timothy 2:10
Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.
---Trav on 9/19/11


Cluny:

I suspect "hahai" in the blog topic is supposed to read "Baha'i".

Look at the methods of the Israelis. For example, the bombing of the King David hotel. There were casualties, yes, but that was because they explicitly warned the authorities of the bomb threat, yet were ignored. Contrast with muslim suicide bombers whose purpose is to gain publicity by MAXIMIZING casualties rather than minimizing them.

Or Hamas launching rocket attacks from schools and hospitals and homes in Gaza, and forcing civilians to stay inside, so when the Israeli forces retaliate (and kill innocent civilians), Hamas can play the victim card. People who have contempt for thier own can hardly have any respect for others.
---Strongaxe on 9/19/11


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\\Jews are peaceful, muslims are murderers and won't live in peace with anyone. hahai and hindu worship idols.\\

If you say "jews are peaceful," you know nothing about the founding of the modern state of israel.

What is hahai?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/19/11


Prove to me that tolerance breeds peace.

Christians who believe in Jesus Christ will be tolerated as long as they do not bring the real Jesus along.

These christians want to make Jesus puke. Rev 3:16

kumbaya
---aka on 9/19/11


Romans 12:18 If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with ALL MEN.
---Francis on 9/19/11


I cannot think of a better place to show that "they (non-christians) will know you are my (Jesus) disciples by your love." Julian, a Roman emperor, who wanted to return to Roman pagan gods said (paraphased), "our priest need to be more loving and caring like the christians to be successful"
---Scott1 on 9/19/11


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MATTHEW 10:34 Think not that I come to send peace on earth, I came not to send peace, but a sword.
---RICHARDC on 9/18/11


There is serious danger for Christianity in this.

When those of different religions talk of tolerance they often mean something different than what Christians imagine. Tolerance is a warm and fluffy word with hidden meanings.

In reality tolerance to some is the forbidding of Christian evangelism, because it is intolerant. Why is Christianity intolerant? Because Jesus says He is the only way to God!

The Muslim block are endeavouring to get an intolerance 'bill' through the UN. If successful Christian evangelism would be banned world-wide. Is such 'tolerance' what our world needs?

Isn't it interesting that the UN, supposedly an organization dedicated to fostering human freedom, is dominated by despotic regimes!
---Warwick on 9/18/11


True Believers pray for the Father in Heavens WILL to be done (not theirs or the gentiles) Matt 6:10, 7:21, 12:50

the god of this world is Satan ...those who are not Believers and Followers of Christ are gentiles ...to follow them is to agree with them ...to promote tolerance and peace in Satan's world?

peace returns when Christ the Prince of Peace returns to rule from Jerusalem as KING OF KINGS until then the world remains in decay

one aligns themselves with evil going AGAINST GOD and HIS WILL by "trying" to bring peace uniting with unbelievers and their agenda for this gods world
---Rhonda on 9/17/11


Tolerance is to be promoted with conditions, but peace is to be our gift.

But we can't say that to be at peace, we should accept erroneous beliefs.

The 'interfaith ethics' is actually reasonable in some cases.

It's better to initially show people who have other beliefs that some ethics are the same, before pointing out that some of their ethics are wrong.

More that that, no
---Peter on 9/17/11


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St. Paul and the other Apostles lived in a truly multi-religious society. He did not hesitate to quote pagan poets and hymns to make a point to the people on Mars Hill.

Only in the last 40 years or so are non-Christian religions (other than Judaism) becoming visible in America.

Saying, "Come under the Blood, brother," to a Hindu or Buddhist would be totally meaningless to him.

To attend such a conference to understand your neighbor is not sinful. We do have to all get along, even if we disagree on spiritual matters.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/17/11


Francis, God appears to have disagreed with you greatly in the Old Testament.
---Jed on 9/17/11


there are christians and there are real born again christians. Born again christians don't come together with jews, muslims, hahai or hindu. Jews are peaceful, muslims are murderers and won't live in peace with anyone. hahai and hindu worship idols. How can you associate with muslims, hahai or hindus? Come out from among them and be ye seperate.
---shira3877 on 9/17/11


You recognize Gods people by there love for each other. However Hister and his draconian sciences has attacked the minds of God today. I believe the same thinf happened when Jesus was crucified. They chose Barabbas over Jesus. Only people who were out of their character would do that.
---lovinluke on 9/17/11


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Are christians to join with jewish, muslims, hahai, and hindu religions to promote global tolerance and peace making this world a better place to live? (Interfaith Ethics, and Tolerance conference)

I say YES
Regardless of our religious beliefs, we must all try tolive together in peace.

I see it as no different than electing political leaders of different religious and denominational background who serve to keep the peace in our nation

I absolutley would oppose any effort for interfaith worship!!!!!
---Francis on 9/17/11


The Bible says not to be unequally yoked with unbelievers and no matter how careful we are not to offend and how kind we try to be to people of all religions the bottom line is they are unbelievers. Unbelievers are people who do not believe in Jesus Christ,as the only begotten son of God. We would violate God's will for his people to come out from among unbelievers meaning don't get involved with them through marriage and I believe all other activities. 2 Corinthians 6:14,16 Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness,have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? The world would be better if all unbelievers accepted Jesus.
---Darlene_1 on 9/16/11


I think it shows how susceptible believers are to try and use the worlds solutions to face/fight evil/sin. In the OT you have many of the kings consistently turning to false prophets/pagan ways to try and fight/protect the nation instead of leaning on the arm of God, they did then and we now still as a Church often lean on the arm of flesh and mans wisdom rather than following the precepts and promises of the living Word/God.
In His loving grip
---Poppa_Bear on 9/16/11


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