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How Much Oil Is Left

How much oil is left? There are a lot of cars using oil products. And the postal service in the U.S. is closing places because of e-mail competition. What if fuel runs out and we don't have enough postal delivery infrastructure?

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jerry6593: I don't LIKE the EPA, but still I think some regulation is necessary, and there is even a CONSTITUTIONAL reason for that.

As now (which was not the case when the constitution was written) one factory or other industry may dump enough pollution in the river to endanger the lives of many people living downsteam (I remember living in China, where the river was bright purple - manganese - but everyone had to drink it, I think their average life expectancy ther was about 40 years!). So to protect the 'right to life' someone has to stop abuse of the right to dump poison in the rivers.

But YES, the EPA overdoes it so much......

So I don't like it at all
---Peter on 10/3/11


Rocky: (Is that your real name?)

"Yes, thats a great idea. Lets reverse about 40 years of environmental protection laws"

Glad to see that you agree. We need to completely eliminate the unconstitutional EPA with its self-serving ability to write more and more regulation laws without congressional oversight. Where are We the People represented in that?
---jerry6593 on 10/3/11


If American's tapped our resources, we could live completely independent of foreign energy.
---Jed on 9/27/11
Jed, I challenge you to show one authoritative source supporting your statement and stating that it is practical.
--Rocky on 9/27/11
Jed, I am still waiting for you to provide one authoritative source for your above statement that provides any kind of practical proposal.
---Rocky on 10/2/11


remove all the government roadblocks to the exploration, drilling, and refining of oil, and we'd soon see how much oil is left.
---jerry6593 on 10/1/11
Yes, thats a great idea. Lets reverse about 40 years of environmental protection laws and see how quickly we can get back to having polluted air, streams, and oceans. So what if more children and adults with lung diseases like asthma die, if our cities smell putrid. It may work as well as the repeal of the banking regulations that were enacted after the Great Depression. They protected us for about 70 years, until they were repealed at the urging of anti-government forces, contributing significantly to the depth and length of the financial crisis that started in 2008.
---Rocky on 10/2/11


just do a google search for "Alaska has more oil than middle east"
--Jed
I did that search and most of those sites you apparently consider credible are just right wing, conspiracy theory sites with absolutely no credibility on this subject. The few on the list that are credible are talking about how wrong the advocates are. Your basing opinion on those sites just proves your own poor judgment and does not make your lie true. Please cite just one credible report or study that supports your claim from amidst all those cites you searched.
---Rocky on 10/2/11




Part 2 Recap
More lies and distortion. Those are reports of OIL RESERVES and have nothing to do with production levels
--Rocky 9/30/11
I'm done arguing with you man. Your posts make no sense. You dont even know how to debate intellectually and you obviously have some real problems that go much deeper
--Jed 9/30/11
Youre just not right. We can assume... I'm afraid your "google" experts have no basis for making such a claim.
--Jed 9/30/11.
look it up in the World Factbook published by the CIA. The report shows US total reserves at 20.6 BB compared to 262 BB for Saudi Arabia alone the CIA knows a lot more about the subject than you.
--Rocky 10/1/11
---Rocky on 10/1/11


Part 1 Recap
Evidence shows that Alaska alone may have more oil than the entire middle east
--Jed 9/28/11
Cite your evidence.
--Rocky 9/28/11
I will respond since you are hiding out... The 5 top Middle Eastern countries together have reserves more than 14 TIMES LARGER THAN THE ENITRE US.
--Rocky 9/29/11
There is nothing here except for your own misguided opinion and verbal abuse.
--Jed 9/30/11
NO it [the post you cite] is NOT the evidence I provided. AGAIN YOU DISTORT. My proof was not in my post on 9/28, from which you quote, but my post on 9/29
--Rocky 9/30/11
Those numbers refer to the oil that is currently being pursued and produced.
--Jed 9/30/11
---Rocky on 10/1/11


For those of you who want to know the truth, just do a google search for "Alaska has more oil than middle east" and you will find site after site of scientists, oil company owners, and other experts providing very detailed information and evidence to support their claims.
---Jed on 10/1/11


I've got an idea. Why don't we remove all the government roadblocks to the exploration, drilling, and refining of oil, and we'd soon see how much oil is left.
---jerry6593 on 10/1/11


Rocky, Jed, 70x7 brothers. They will know us by our love, not by who is more tenacious when it comes to an argument. To shine some more light on some of these opinions, about who has what amount of oil, and where US gets their oil look up this article, How North Dakota Became Saudi Arabia You will see that there is more to the oil industry than mainstream hubbub and some of our notions are based on semi dated information and scientific/engineering technology. Not looking to add to any controversy, just adding some knowledge/information to the conversation as food for thought, not as Mr. know it all.
In His loving grip
---Poppa_Bear on 10/1/11




1)the small parts of Alaska that are allowed to be drilled have tons of it,
2)we keep finding more and more
3)This statement obviously cannot be disproved
---Jed on 9/30/11
All bullcrap.
1) Drilling has occurred in most areas of Alaska suspected of having oil potential. Oil has been found in large and small amounts in some and not in others. Tons of oil is actually a very tiny amount, not enough to justify drilling a single well.
2) They keep finding more and more in the Middle East, too. Some of their new finds have been a lot larger than any in Alaska since the North Slope.
3) Not being able to disprove something isnt evidence that proves it exists
---Rocky on 10/1/11


I'm afraid your "google" experts have no basis for making such a claim.
--Jed 9/30/11
The only claims I cited from "google experts" was world oil reserve amounts. If you take exception with what I wrote, look it up in the World Factbook published by the CIA. The report shows US total reserves at 20.6 BB compared to 262 BB for Saudi Arabia alone. That alone proves how stupid your claim is that Alaska may have more oil than the entire Middle East. Remember that US number includes Alaska, California, Texas, Oklahoma, Lousiana, the Gulf Coast, and all other areas. I know the CIA knows a lot more about the subject than you. But go ahead and spin this, lie some more.
---Rocky on 10/1/11


There is no way that they could know how much oil there is in parts of alaska where exploratory drilling is prohibited by EPA
---Jed on 9/30/11
That part I agree with. But that in no way is "evidence" for your outrageous claim that "Evidence shows that Alaska alone may have more oil than the entire middle east". Your assumption that no information means massive amounts larger than the entire Middle East does not make any sense, nor is it evidence. You still have provided NO EVIDENCE to support your gross distortion. And there has been much drilling in Alaska. Not a single expert has ever suggested what you state. You made it up. Provide some evidence. You said "evidence shows" - what evidence?
---Rocky on 9/30/11


Rocky, I'm done arguing with you man... You dont even know how to debate intellectually
---Jed on 9/30/11
So you are going to quit before providing any evidence or support for any of the 12 posts I cited? All you have done is repeatedly denied that you were wrong then call me a liar and worse. You used more lies to try to cover-up the first lies and evade questions. But you havn't once provided evidence for any of those claims. Why are you quitting before providing any support? Is it because you have none? And I am the one that has debated intellectually and provided information and arguments, you haven't provided ANY information, just used lies to evade.
---Rocky on 9/30/11


Rocky, give it a rest man. You're just not right. There is no way that they could know how much oil there is in parts of alaska where exploratory drilling is prohibited by EPA. We can assume, however, that there is alot of it since the small parts of Alaska that are allowed to be drilled have tons of it, and we keep finding more and more. That's why I said that evidence shows that there MAY be more oil in Alaska than the whole middle east. This statement obviously cannot be disproved without exploratory research, which is of course, very restricted. I'm afraid your "google" experts have no basis for making such a claim.
---Jed on 9/30/11


Rocky, I'm done arguing with you man. You argue with everyone on these blogs and call them liars without providing any evidence that what they said is not true. Then you post your own misguided opinions, not facts, as if they are gospel. I'm done arguing with you man. Your posts make no sense. You dont even know how to debate intellectually and you obviously have some real problems that go much deeper than just your beliefs here. Get some help man.
---Jed on 9/30/11


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Rocky, you do not provide any proof or evidence that what I have said is wrong.
---Jed on 9/29/11 on Tea Party thread
Surprise Surprise. More lies. First, burden is on the one making the original assertion. How can anyone else provide proof that no one ever said what you made up? Nevertheless, see my responses on TPB thread to your posts on 8/17, 9/27/ and 9/28. I showed you wrong. I asked for your support and you never responded to any of the three. I listed 12 posts where you lied or made gross distortions and you havent provided support for ANY. To evade the question you attack me personally. Instead, show me wrong - support your statements.
---Rocky on 9/30/11


Those numbers refer to the oil that is currently being pursued and produced All that shows is that the middle east produces most of the world's oil today
---Jed on 9/30/11
More lies and distortion. Those are reports of OIL RESERVES and have nothing to do with production levels. It is the amount of recoverable oil still in the ground. I provided authoritative proof you lied and you have not provided on wit of support for your outlandish statement about all the oil you allege is in Alaska. You lie again. You lose again. I showed not only was your lie a big one, but a very stupid one. Oh what tangled webs you weave, when you first post to deceive.
---Rocky on 9/30/11


"I proved it in my earlier post today." Rocky 9/29/11


That report you posted proves nothing. Those numbers refer to the oil that is currently being pursued and produced. That report does not figure in all the untouched oil that has yet to be pursued due to EPA restrictions. All that shows is that the middle east produces most of the world's oil today, which everyone already knows and I already stated earlier. Remember, the middle east is already utilizing every possible means and drilling everywhere they can to get oil. The U.S. hasn't even began to untilize good drilling spots.
---Jed on 9/30/11


Rocky, Is that your definition of "evidence" and "proof". There is nothing here except for your own misguided opinion and verbal abuse.
--Jed 9/30/11
NO it is NOT the evidence I provided. AGAIN YOU DISTORT. My proof was not in my post on 9/28, from which you quote, but my post on 9/29 that stated: "Current reports (just google 'world oil reserves 2011') on world oil reserves show the Saudi Arabia, has reserves 6 TIMES LARGER THAN THE ENTIRE US - all states including Alaska. The 5 top Middle Eastern countries together have reserves more than 14 TIMES LARGER THAN THE ENITRE US. That proves how stupid your statement is, and how you lie and distort." Unbelievable. The lies and distortions just continue.
---Rocky on 9/30/11


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Ecclesiastes 10:13
The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness: and the end of his talk is mischievous madness.
But you still have not repented of your malicious attacks and evil nature so you still walk in darkness.
---Rocky on 9/29/11


Repent of truth? Not gonna eva gonna happen to one of posers minions.
Psalm 36:2
For he flattereth himself in his own eyes, until his iniquity be found to be hateful.

Psalm 119:104
Through thy precepts I get understanding: therefore I hate every false way.
Psalm 97:10
Ye that love the LORD, hate evil: he preserveth the souls of his saints, he delivereth them out of the hand of the wicked.
---Trav on 9/30/11


That is a HUGE LIE. I lived in Alaska for 40 years and NEVER heard anything even a sliver like that. Cite your evidence.
On another thread (Tea Party Biblical), you whined about me saying "shame on you" for repeatedly lying and distorting what others wrote. And now you lie AGAIN. Well I say it again after another huge lie - SHAME ON YOU!!!!!
Your whole post is a lie. Can't you distinguish between facts and lies?
---Rocky on 9/28/11

Rocky, Is that your definition of "evidence" and "proof". There is nothing here except for your own misguided opinion and verbal abuse. I could not find one post on this thread from you posted any evidence that my claim was not true.
---Jed on 9/30/11


Travesty, there is nothing that said that God restored what the Wastrel wasted.

......--but again, this is one of those many distinctions too subtle for many people on here to grasp.
---Cluny on 9/29/11

Restored what you and prodigal thought he lost.
So subtle some ortho's apparently missed it.

Jer 30:10
Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD, neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, thy seed from the land of their captivity,Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, none shall make him afraid.

Luke 15:22 But the father said to his servants, Bring forth the best robe, and put it on him, and put a ring on his hand, and shoes on his feet:
---Trav on 9/30/11


I challenge you to provide proof that Alaska does not have more oil than the middle east. If you can not, then you have no right to call me a liar or a distortionist.
Jed 9/29/11
I proved it in my earlier post today. By your logic I now have a right to call you a liar and distortionist. But it is still your responsibility to prove your claims when challenged. You already have proven to all readers that you make outlandish claims which you will not even try to defend or support. You might get a little credibility back if you review your 11 other posts now and make appropriate corrections and retractions. Or you can let your poor reputation stand.
---Rocky on 9/29/11


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Ecclesiastes 10:13
The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness: and the end of his talk is mischievous madness.
--trav 9/29/11
How well you describe yourself. But you still have not repented of your malicious attacks and evil nature so you still walk in darkness.
---Rocky on 9/29/11


Rocky, you are the one who attacked my claims, not me.
Jed 9/29
Duh, off course. As you know, I have already responded to the other points in that post and many others on the Tea Party Biblical thread. Readers can see my response to your statement there, as well as the list of 12 posts on several threads wherein you lied and reported grossly distorted information Since you made the original post and claim, it is your responsibility to prove your claim when challenged, not the other way around. But I understand your desire to continue to evade. On many of those 12 posts I explained how you were wrong and you never responded but with bogus personal attacks against me.
---Rocky on 9/29/11


Rhonda, "Love my life?" Yes I love the life God gave me,you have a problem with that? but "more than Christ?" your adding your own assumption!
How many "lives" was Adam promised??? When was he promised a "heavenly" life??
Had he not sinned he would be alive on earth today,(earth IS man's home!)
You believe satan's charge that you want to "be like god" IE-live outside the earth,read psl.115.16
---1st_cliff on 9/29/11


Evidence shows that Alaska alone may have more oil than the entire middle east, where most of the world's oil is derived.
Jed 9/28/11
Notwithstanding it is your responsibility to defend your original claims, I will respond since you are hiding out. Your statement is a lie. Current reports (just google "world oil reserves 2011") on world oil reserves show the Saudi Arabia, has reserves 6 TIMES LARGER THAN THE ENTIRE US all states including Alaska. The 5 top Middle Eastern countries together have reserves more than 14 TIMES LARGER THAN THE ENITRE US. That proves how stupid your statement is, and how you lie and distort. It's the kind of lie that leads people to support bad policy. Shame on you.
---Rocky on 9/29/11


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\\He did restore what prodigal wasted. Son did not choose to waste his inheritance again.

Did he say he would restore the wooly's? He will if he did.
Can he restore Cluny's Salton Sea? If he wants too.\\

Travesty, there is nothing that said that God restored what the Wastrel wasted.

God never said He would restore the woolly mammoth, at least in this world.

The Salton Sea is in California. It's an inland sea that humans polluted beyond repair.

To say God can do something (which no one denies) is not the same thing as saying God WILL do something--but again, this is one of those many distinctions too subtle for many people on here to grasp.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/29/11


"You should show support that you were right or quit attacking me for correctly pointing out your lies and distortions."
---Rcoky on 9/29/

Rocky, you are the one who attacked my claims, not me. Since you are the one calling my posts lies and distortions, it should be your obligation to provide evidence to prove them wrong, which of course, you have not. So I challenge you to provide proof that Alaska does not have more oil than the middle east. If you can not, then you have no right to call me a liar or a distortionist.
---Jed on 9/29/11


You should show support that you were right or quit attacking me for correctly pointing out your lies and distortions.
---Rcoky on 9/29/11

Correctly pointing out?

You've proved nothing to nobody, by any outside or inside witness.
You make Jed look like an Apostle.

You're the accuser....prove something.....besides what we've already deduced.

Ecclesiastes 10:13
The beginning of the words of his mouth is foolishness: and the end of his talk is mischievous madness.
Ecclesiastes 10:15
The labour of the foolish wearieth every one of them, because he knoweth not how to go to the city.
---Trav on 9/29/11


Either way I will have gone home to be with the Lord before it happens. Praise God.
---Darlene_1 on 9/29/11

And herein lies the problem.

What I here from the right is "drill, babay, drill". This seems to be the energy policy of the right wing.

Oil is not going to last forever. What people are having a hard time understanding is:

1.Oil is not an infinite resource.
2.Remaining supplies of oil should be used wisely.
3.Alternative sources of energy need to be brought on line soon.

Why is it that the right wing bemoans leaving a hugh debt for their grandchildren, but have no problems using up the oil and leaving none for them?
---NurseRobert on 9/29/11


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If American's tapped our resources, we could live completely independent of foreign energy.
---Jed on 9/27/11
I challenge you to show one authoritative source supporting your statement and stating that it is practical.
---Rocky on 9/27/11
Jed, I am still waiting for your support for your outrageous statement on 9/27. You rake me over the coals for saying you lied and distorted truth but you have provided no support to show you were right in your original post or that I was wrong. You should show support that you were right or quit attacking me for correctly pointing out your lies and distortions.
---Rcoky on 9/29/11


Rhonda, You're living in a dream world, man's complete disregards for resources threatens all of us!
****

not at all YOU would be in this gods "dream-world" and its prison ...Holy Scripture states if you love your life and this world more than Christ you will loose it

I understand the DIFFERENCE and the promises given by GOD

obviously you hold some other non-christian belief (atheist?) that this is the only world and there is no life beyond the physical so yes the TRUTH I shared would be a "dream world" for YOU

fear is not from GOD it is still from Satan and GOD can replenish ANYTHING man destroys

fear no evil for GOD is with me
---Rhonda on 9/29/11


"Did God restore what the Prodigal Son wasted so he could continue his riotous life-style?"
Yes, He probably did. The story ends when the boy came home but we don't see what came after that.
PS: By the way since there is so much "correctness of terms" issued by "some" the Bible doesn't say anything about a "Prodigal Son." It speaks of one who wasted his wealth in riotous living just like so many of us....
---Elder on 9/29/11


I went to a USA Federal Government site and their report said fifty years. That was with the known oil reserve sites. Another time I have heard it is 100 years. Either way I will have gone home to be with the Lord before it happens. Praise God.
---Darlene_1 on 9/29/11


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Did God restore what the Prodigal Son wasted so he could continue his riotous life-style?
Has God restored the wooly mammoth yet?
How about the Salton Sea in California?
---Cluny on 9/28/11

He did restore what prodigal wasted. Son did not choose to waste his inheritance again.

Did he say he would restore the wooly's? He will if he did.
Can he restore Cluny's Salton Sea? If he wants too.
Isaiah 49:6
And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the (Goy Heb)(latin gentiles), that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.

So he said,so he done.
---Trav on 9/29/11


\\Evidence shows that Alaska alone may have more oil than the entire middle east, where most of the world's oil is derived.\\

Evidence does not say "may."
---Cluny on 9/28/11


You prefer...."Evidence Suggests"? Same thing. Evidence points too?

Evidence can be signs/marks/trends of past proof of such.

Evidence's, can be small or lage facts of witness. The more facts, the greater testimoney.
Evidence for Jed's witness is credible for instance. Hairy potters is not, nor his minions for upholding Truth.
---Trav on 9/29/11


\\I guess in that view-point GOD is not able to restore what man destroys? NOT my GOD!\\

Did God restore what the Prodigal Son wasted so he could continue his riotous life-style?

Has God restored the wooly mammoth yet?

How about the Salton Sea in California? You can look up about that.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/28/11


Rocky, nice Christ-like responses. Calling people "stupid", "lazy", "liar", "shame on you". Your God, whoever that may be, must be very proud.
---Jed on 9/28/11
Jed also posted the exact same post on the Tea Part Biblical thread - please read my responses there on 9/28, where you can also see a list of some of the other posts Jed lied in. Notice that he provides no proof that he was not lying as I said on this thread, he has not cited his evidence, because he was wrong. So instead he attacks my words and lied AGAIN when he did that, as shown on my response on the other thread. Jed, please stop the lies and distortions.
---Rocky on 9/28/11


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Rhonda, You're living in a dream world, man's complete disregards for resources threatens all of us!
Clear-cut logging makes "waste lands" greedy over fishing threatens all sea food stocks plus bleeding heart do-gooders who don't want to see seals killed for clothing has resulted in the seals eating all the "table fish" perhaps you would prefer seal meat?
Adam was given "dominion"(Managerial mandate) over all earth's resources.
Killing elephants for ivory,is one example of disregards for useful creatures. How many creatures are now extinct? Did God restore these??
---1st_cliff on 9/28/11


Bruce

and again you simply introduce more fear by way of what mankind does to Gods resources ...I guess in that view-point GOD is not able to restore what man destroys? NOT my GOD!

using an example of one society (or hundreds) who did not worship the TRUE GOD and spoiled their ability to live? hmmmm

like I already stated change equals progress - better ways of doing/being and living ...YOU also subscribe to mankinds FEAR by believing man would have no SOLUTION ...more fear, more worry, more negative reaction rather than JOINING with those seeking solutions
I do not subscribe to man-made fear

GOD provides all - PERIOD
---Rhonda on 9/28/11


Rocky, nice Christ-like responses. Calling people "stupid", "lazy", "liar", "shame on you". Your God, whoever that may be, must be very proud.
---Jed on 9/28/11


Where do you get Sunday delivery from the post office? I have never heard of anywhere that has Sunday delivery. Perhaps you meant Saturday delivery?
---StrongAxe on 9/28/11
Yes, thank you for catching and correcting my error.
---Rocky on 9/28/11


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My bigger concern is that we are so spoiled in most of the west that we forget that just a century and a half ago we had about a tenth of the technology we have now and people still led faithful/fruitful meaningful lives, let alone a thousand years ago.
--Poppa_Bear 9/28/11
Wise words, your post is worthy of more than a little reflection and meditation.
---Rocky on 9/28/11


Evidence shows that Alaska alone may have more oil than the entire middle east, where most of the world's oil is derived.
--Jed 9/28/11
That is a HUGE LIE. I lived in Alaska for 40 years and NEVER heard anything even a sliver like that. Cite your evidence.
On another thread (Tea Party Biblical), you whined about me saying "shame on you" for repeatedly lying and distorting what others wrote. Then, unbelievably, on that same post you, did it AGAIN. And now you lie AGAIN. Well I say it again after another huge lie - SHAME ON YOU!!!!!
Your whole post is a lie. Can't you distinguish between facts and lies?
---Rocky on 9/28/11


Rocky:

Where do you get Sunday delivery from the post office? I have never heard of anywhere that has Sunday delivery. Perhaps you meant Saturday delivery?
---StrongAxe on 9/28/11


\\Evidence shows that Alaska alone may have more oil than the entire middle east, where most of the world's oil is derived.\\

Evidence does not say "may."

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/28/11


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Oil running out? My bigger concern is that we are so spoiled in most of the west that we forget that just a century and a half ago we had about a tenth of the technology we have now and people still led faithful/fruitful meaningful lives, let alone a thousand years ago. Thank God for progress, but I dont thank man for so many conveniences that we cant even change a tire without watching a YouTube video. Postal service? Ggo back to the pony express need-be. I live in Alaska with all that black gold/oil and many up here still live rural lives, subsistent hunt/fishing. It is a ruff/cold state and makes for resilient folk who still DIY a lot of stuff the old fashion way. He will provide what we need.
---Poppa_Bear on 9/28/11


Rhonda,
"GOD provides all resources man can never "use-up"...

Lets take this to its simplest form. A person lives on an island and has no source of heat but trees. Eventually he cuts down all the trees for heat. The resource has been used up. How then can we say God will never let all the resources be used up? Earth is just a bigger island. The resources are not infinite. If they are abused/overused they will be gone.

By the way, a real life example of the above principle is the story of Easter Island. They did not use the trees for heat but they did use up all the trees resulting not only in deforstation but the washing away of much of the island's topsoil (another resource squandered).
---Bruce5656 on 9/28/11


\\Two scientists working independantly determined that oil does not come from plants millions of years old,\\

I'm not aware that anyone ever thought that oil came from plants, though supposedly coal does.

I thought that petroleum came from single celled protozoa or possibly dinosaurs--animals, and not plants.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/28/11


Evidence shows that Alaska alone may have more oil than the entire middle east, where most of the world's oil is derived. However, environmental protection laws limits makes most of that oil completely inaccessible to us. If we tapped into those resources, we would not only be able to live independently of foriegn oil, we could also have surplus.
---Jed on 9/28/11


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Two scientists working independantly determined that oil does not come from plants millions of years old, but from the molten core of the earth. If their findings are true, then that would definately shoot down evolution, eh?
---Steveng on 9/27/11
1) How does it shoot down evolution?
2) Can you provide an authoritative reference for the oil coming from the Earth's core, if possible for any peer reviewed information. This sounds more like one of the numerous conspiracy theories that people keep spreading - but you can prove me wrong with the a good reference.
---Rocky on 9/27/11


Matthew 6

27 Which of you by taking thought can add one cubit unto his stature?

30 Wherefore, if God so clothe the grass of the field, which to day is, and to morrow is cast into the oven, shall he not much more clothe you, O ye of little faith?

31 Therefore take no thought, saying, What shall we eat? or, What shall we drink? or, Wherewithal shall we be clothed?

32 (For after all these things do the Gentiles seek:) for your heavenly Father knoweth that ye have need of all these things.
---christan on 9/28/11


GOD provides all resources man can never "use-up" only FEAR given by men make many believe we have scarcity

who cares what gets closed due to CHANGE better ideas and ways of doing business/service are created to improve upon the out-dated

2Tim 1:7
For God hath not given us the spirit of fear, but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.

Fear GOD not man and this world Matt 10:28
---Rhonda on 9/28/11


Sag, I completely agree.
---Jed on 9/27/11


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//how would we be able to send messages? We can get too dependent on high-tech so we can't do practical stuff, like how children now may be able //

Welcome to what's coming. take a cell phone. how many numbers do you actually know? do you have them written down? how long n a dire emergency will your battery last on your smart phone?
---aka on 9/27/11


--StrongAxe on 9/27/11
I concur with your post, to which I add another big factor pushing PO into the red: Congress. They won't allow the PO to discontinue Sunday delivery, which would save bundles. I would be satisfied with residential delivery 3 times per week if it helped keep rates down. Congressmen also keep the PO from closing a lot of small, unprofitable, rural branch stores. In Alaska, where the costs of shipping to distant, remote locations is naturally extremely high, Senators argued for lower parcel post rates equal to others in the country. PO rates became artificially low then and construction companies started shipping bricks and other construction materials by parcel post. Another: cheap rates for advertisers.
---Rocky on 9/27/11


If American's tapped our resources, we could live completely independent of foreign energy.
---Jed on 9/27/11
That is only true if we start burning a lot more coal and living with more air pollution than we had back in the 60s and 70s. And we would have a lot more asthma and other pulmonary disease with significantly more deaths as a result. Luckily the younger generation has not experienced that here, but they can go to China today and see what it was like. Jed, I challenge you to show one authoritative source supporting your statement and stating that it is practical.
---Rocky on 9/27/11


\\The connection of my oil question with postal service is my theory that if people put the postal service out of business, or pretty much, and then if fuel for powering Internet runs out, then there might be no postal infrastructure, so how would we be able to send messages?\\

There is still solar and nuclear power.

And the post office is not out of business yet, because there will still be need for WRITTEN communication and package delivery, at least for the forseeable future.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 9/27/11


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There are a few scientists who believe that we no longer will run out of oil. Several years ago, several scientist were evaluating old oil wells that were thought to be depleted only to find that they have been filled up again. Two scientists working independantly determined that oil does not come from plants millions of years old, but from the molten core of the earth. If their findings are true, then that would definately shoot down evolution, eh?

But politicians will make you believe that oil is a scarce resource and Wall Street will capitalize on this and manipulate the prices.
---Steveng on 9/27/11


Trav:

You said: If that is the only reason, we should have took it. We should take it.

Perhaps you have forgotten something important. It's called sovreignty or ownership. The oil in those countries belongs to them, NOT to us. The fact that we happen to want it doesn't automatically give us the right to take it.

Remember "Thou shalt not steal" and "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's ... or anything else that is his" (i.e. "anything" includes oil)?
---StrongAxe on 9/27/11


Thank you, everyone. The connection of my oil question with postal service is my theory that if people put the postal service out of business, or pretty much, and then if fuel for powering Internet runs out, then there might be no postal infrastructure, so how would we be able to send messages? We can get too dependent on high-tech so we can't do practical stuff, like how children now may be able to use a computer caculator but not know how to add numbers > what happens if the computer system falls because of lack of electrical power or an economy unable to finance competent computer systems?
---Bill_willa6989 on 9/27/11


If American's tapped our resources, we could live completely independent of foreign energy.
---Jed on 9/27/11

I think that I put it in rather Negative terms when I last posted.

You said it very well. From a Positive view. Thanks!

I'm not sure what's holding up the development of America's own energy resources. God has provided all the energy that the USA needs. If only we would get the leadership that is needed to develop things.

The way that we are so dependent on other, sometimes violent and radical, nations is risky.

I'm not so worried about the USA running out of oil as I am about the seriously lacking leadership in this nation.

Not to sound Negative there, just Realistic.
---Sag on 9/27/11


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The ONLY reason the USA went to war in: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. was for the Oil.
---Sag on 9/27/11

If that is the only reason, we should have took it. We should take it.
We'll run these opec enemies out of oil while we keep our own. Their reserves are getting low, they blow their money. We still have oil we haven't even touched.

Isa 49:8 Thus saith the LORD, In an acceptable time have I heard thee, in a day of salvation have I helped thee: I will preserve thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, to establish the earth, to cause to inherit the desolate heritages,

He has,we have.
---Trav on 9/27/11


We have plenty of oil,in fact as I write this there are protests (Greenpeace) going on because we want to build a pipeline from Alberta (oil sands)to Texas (refineries)creating hundreds of jobs for both countries!
---1st_cliff on 9/27/11


We still have alot of untouched oil in the U.S. because environmental yuppies apparently think it's okay to buy oil from people who drill in other parts of the world, but not okay to drill in the U.S. If American's tapped our resources, we could live completely independent of foreign energy.
---Jed on 9/27/11


darn, does that mean the volume of email fwds will increase even more?

anyway, we will save a lot of trees because there will not be inundated with ads, circulars, and flyers.

regardless of the oil and mail situation, we will still receive our bills.
---aka on 9/27/11


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There is some truth to everyone's comments.

However, I can't wait until the world's remaining oil reserves become TOO EXPENSIVE, and/or, TOO DIFFICULT to develop.

That will force the world to develop Cleaner, and more Environmentally-Friendly, ALTERNATIVE sources of Energy:

Solar
Nuclear
etc.

The ONLY reason the USA went to war in: Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc. was for the Oil.

I also think that is a dirty shame that the USA has to remain "political friends" with the OPEC nations. ALL of the 9-11-2001 terrorists came from the largest OPEC nation.

bad, Bad, BAD!

---Sag on 9/27/11


We really don't know how much oil is left at this point. People are having to look for oil in more difficult places, like deep in the sea, but some remains.

I don't really see the connection between the oil and the post, though I am quite sad about the lower speeds of the post now compared to even ten years ago (I'm thinking of England, not the US!)
---Peter on 9/27/11


There are centuries of oil left. The problem is that it is expensive to get out.

We are running out of cheap oil not oil. This is what many leaders do not wish most people to know.
---Samuel on 9/27/11


Donna5535:

With the advent of the fax, businesses no longer needed to mail documents. They didn't need to spend money on envelopes and stamps, and wait several days for documents to arrive. They could be sent instantly. This reduced the amount of business mail sent.

Email has done the same thing, but even more so, since you don't need to print documents out, mail them individually, or file them in a filing cabinet. The demand for postal mail has gone down. Also, don't forgt the rise of private delivery services like UPS and FedEx.

Meanwhile the costs (postage, labor, gasoline, etc.) have gone up. Lower demand and increased costs will hurt any industry.
---StrongAxe on 9/27/11


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You will know the economy is in trouble when we have to start burning diamonds for heat instead of coal and petroleum.
---notlaw99 on 9/27/11


If fuel runs out then everything will have to shut down, not only cars, but things they use oil to manufacture things.

If the Post office fails, I think private sectors should bid on it and the government should let this happen. HOW did they run out of money? There were only 2 cars at the large post office this morning. Normally the parking lot is filled at this time of the morning, very sad indeed.
---Donna5535 on 9/27/11


The amount of oil that cars use is nothing compared the amount of oil or gas that industry and power generation uses. There is plenty of oil. It is more of a geo-political issue that then amount available by OPEC not quantity.
---Scott1 on 9/27/11


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