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My wife and I just had a black baby together but we are both white. She swears she never cheated on me but is it possible for two white people to have a black baby?

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 ---Jim on 10/3/11
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Food for thought: In the USA, for many generations, a great many people have been able to "pass for white" because of the forced interracial sexual customs & practices of slavery. I guess your ancestral chicken are now coming home to roost Jim...
---Leon on 10/11/11


Jhn 3:16 For God so loved the World -

Trav, do these verses which use the same word (Erets)also not refer to the entire earth or global world?
---Jed on 10/10/11

There is some specific context the translators didn't, couldn't or wouldn't include? Maybe a common understanding in the times it was written. More likely it is to be searched out.

Some other "worlds" that rarely get posted.

John 17:9
I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine.

John 15:19
If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
---Trav on 10/11/11


Jed:
... Even though one can argue that eretz may just mean "land" in a local sense, one cannot argue the same of kosmos.
---StrongAxe on 10/11/11

Perhaps they can....it says below....wide or narrow sense. There almost always several meanings in either language. And more today.

Every visited "Toy Kosmos", "Wally Kosmos" or Kosmos Kramer?

G2889
& #954, & #959, & #769, & #963, & #956, & #959, & #962,
kosmos
kos'-mos
Probably from the base of G2865, orderly arrangement, that is, decoration, by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]): - adorning, world.
---Trav on 10/11/11


Jed:

All the New Testament references you quoted are written in Greek, and thus use the Greek word kosmos rather than the Hebrew word eretz. Nevertheless, your point is a valid one. In fact, it is stronger, because the meanings of the two words are slightly different. Even though one can argue that eretz may just mean "land" in a local sense, one cannot argue the same of kosmos.
---StrongAxe on 10/11/11


Andy, that was terrible answer you gave to Trav. I disagree with him on many issues concerning Israel, but I believe your answer to him was so wrong. You say,
" fact is as long as you do not accept that black people ARE GODS IMAGE, you cannot be saved"
Where in Scripture does it say such a thing? Then you said,
"NOONE CAN SAY HE LOVES GOD AND HATE HOIS BROTHER"
Believing in Christ through faith is what matters. Then the love of Christ lives in you. Then you said,
"repent and be saved KKK, i meant trav"
Why KKK? What purpose does it serve to call someone that? by labeling him that name you are been prejudice. Answer with love, the one you mentioned.
---Mark_V. on 10/11/11




Trav, do these verses which use the same word (Erets)also not refer to the entire earth or global world?
---Jed on 10/10/11

They don't use the same word "erets". The verses you give are in N.Testament Greek. Words are Kosmos, aion, oikoumene,ghay, terrene, etc. Here is a word translation concordance...use e sword online.
Am not changing anything in the translation, rather pointing to. Grab a concordance.
kosmos
kos'-mos
Probably from the base of G2865, orderly arrangement, that is, decoration, by implication the world (in a wide or narrow sense, including its inhabitants, literally or figuratively [morally]): - adorning, world.
---Trav on 10/11/11


trav exctely MY TOUGHTs about you so which is the biggest Balaam you or I, you according to me and i according to you. fact is as long as you do not accept that black people ARE GODS IMAGE, you cannot be saved

NOONE CAN SAY HE LOVES GOD AND HATE HOIS BROTHER

repent and be saved KKK, i meant trav
---andy3996 on 10/10/11


Even if the word for earth does not mean the whole earth but a limited land area, "all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered." -Gen. 7:19 ALL high Mts and ENTIRE heavens seem to indicate the entire earth
---Chria9396 on 10/10/11


Erets was not "global". Global world was not know or proven until appx 500 years ago. -Trav on 10/10/2011

By one man's sin death entered into the world -Romans 5:12

For God so loved the World -John 3:16

For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world. -John 3:17

He was in the world, and though the world was made through him.. -John 1:10

Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away -Rev 21:1

and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries -Rev 17:12

Trav, do these verses which use the same word (Erets)also not refer to the entire earth or global world?
---Jed on 10/10/11


Jed: I'm not "suggesting" anything. The Bible clearly says "whosoever" truly believes on Jesus will be saved. (Jn. 3:14-21) That however doesn't mean "whosoever" is instantly incapable of sinning at the moment of salvation. Jesus died for our sins, past, present & future. If one truly believes in Jesus, all of his/her sins are forgiven & he/she should desire, & strive not to further sin. I believe "whosoever" should show evidence of being born again by exhibiting fruits of the Spirit, i.e., love, joy, peace, gentleness, goodness, longsuffering, faith, meekness & temperance.

Hope this helps your understanding!
---Leon on 10/10/11




Jim...
...pleast let us know how long your wife puts up with your accusing her of adultery.
---KarenD on 10/10/11

Bahhh. Who cares how long. The onus proof is on her....until.
Jim knows in his heart more each day...which way it is.

GOD put away/divorced his wife Israel. And honored his own marriage laws. Christ died that Israel might return. A widow is free.
Put this polluted one away. Forgive her from a distance.

Jeremiah 3:1
They say, If a man put away his wife, and she go from him, and become another man's, shall he return unto her again? shall not that land be greatly polluted? but thou hast played the harlot with many lovers, yet return again to me, saith the LORD.
---Trav on 10/10/11


...most Africans i know are extremely normal in church.
---andy3996 on 10/10/11

A legend in your own testament.
Cloudy with a chance of meatballs.
2 Timothy 3
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
---Trav on 10/10/11


JIM: It just came to my mind that the baby is going to have more problems facing him/her than you except you live in a community of mixed races. Please do the test urgently to know the truth. Is it hospital error or what?
---Adetunji on 10/10/11


Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. -Gen. 7:21-23
---Jed on 10/10/11

(Gen. 7:12), the waters were on the face of the whole "earth" (Gen. 8:9)

"earth" used in Genesis is Hebrew word "erets" (Strong's O.T. #776). Erets was not "global". Global world was not know or proven until appx 500 years ago. Erets is shown most often used for limited land area.

Universal Flood is a recent Universal Doctrine. An attempt to answer Darwinist type science. Doing a poor job of also, as it is not factual. Erets is Hebrew and factual. Water Pressure is factual. 5 miles of water pressure is unanswerable.
There was a flood of incredible dimensions. It destroyed Noah's relatives.
---Trav on 10/10/11


Jim...Let us know the outcome of the DNA test. Also, pleast let us know how long your wife puts up with your accusing her of adultery.
---KarenD on 10/10/11


I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be cut off by the waters of a flood, never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth. -Gen. 9:11

They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. -Gen. 7:19

Every living thing that moved on the earth perished--birds, livestock, wild animals, all the creatures that swarm over the earth, and all mankind. Everything on dry land that had the breath of life in its nostrils died. Every living thing on the face of the earth was wiped out, men and animals and the creatures that move along the ground and the birds of the air were wiped from the earth. Only Noah was left, and those with him in the ark. -Gen. 7:21-23
---Jed on 10/10/11


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We are all also descendants of Noah.
---Jed on 10/9/11

We were all brought and taught up to believe this. There is more evidence to contrary. Start with the Hebrew word "erets". Erets is translated 1801 times as land, countrie, lands etc. Not round earth.
It would have taken 31 ships the size of Noahs to put all animals aboard. Throw in food. Seven of the approved edibles....and food. (Probe a rancher)
Civilizations march through the "erets" flood.
No grass weed, flower or insect could have withstood the enormous water pressure. Etc, etc, etc,etc. There was a Noahs flood. Just not a universal flood.
---Trav on 10/10/11


hello,Eloy is correct! there's a family here from El Salvador they are very fair white Latino and the last two kids really look black.it's wrong, how even their relatives treat those kids different. they always say "why are those two so black & have that hair?"
---ELENA on 10/10/11


Jim, thats why said "so white American culture is normal, and other cultures are abnormal" someone may be anti-racist and still prejudiced. i had an experience like that with my inlaws.both of them where outrageous finding out i was going to marry an African Queen. one has two black adoptive sisters, the other was a missionary into Africa. it was through this that God corrected them, now they accept the oneness in Christ of mankind better. and they are now defenders of biblical marriage without colourpredjudgement again. (sometimes it is our education that slaps in the face. PS. probably your a country (or small city) boy who thinks that the gangstamovies they show is truth. most Africans i know are extremely normal in church.
---andy3996 on 10/10/11


Leon, I am totally and absolutely against racism. But are you suggesting that a racist or prejudice person cannot be saved? In that case, wouldn't we all be going to hell as we all have some level of prejudice that we have to battle.
---Jed on 10/10/11


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Jim, I understand your concern very much. If this happened to me, I too would find myself asking many questions. Yes, it is possible to have a child that looks different. And yes, we should be able to forgive our wives or husbands if something like this happened. And yes, it does not matter what people say here about not been prejudice, for if you checked their lives, you would find a lot of prejudice in them, for our flesh still holds on to a lot of that in our lives. Something that God continues to cleanse within us. Get a check up, have your wife get one, this way you can move on without doubts. Forgive her if she sinned, be a good father to your children no matter what they look like, love them, be contend that God is always there for us.
---Mark_V. on 10/10/11


Ah trav i tought you forgotten to post only to insult me.
---andy3996 on 10/8/11

Never mean to insult.
Necessary to shine a light on blatant agenda's and misperceptions. In scripture and preaching.
A rut is a grave with ends knocked out. Jump. Jump again. Grab the edge, pull....run.
Pro 22:14The mouth of strange women is a deep pit: he that is abhorred of the LORD shall fall therein.
Psa 57:6
They have prepared a net for my steps, my soul is bowed down: they have digged a pit before me, into the midst whereof they are fallen themselves. Selah.
Isa 51:1Hearken to me, ye that follow after righteousness, ye that seek the LORD: look unto the rock whence ye are hewn, to the hole of the pit whence ye are digged.
---Trav on 10/10/11


"I just don't know if I could forgive my wife, especially since it was obviously [?] with a black man." :)
---Jim on 10/4/11

"I know that even though this child may be black [?], he would adopt the normal culture simply from being raised in our family. So he would be treated no different than the rest of our normal white children".:D
---Jim on 10/6/11

You're in one deep hell hole Jimbo! Only "true" salvation in Jesus Christ can get you out! Then you'll be able to forgive your wife IF she has sinned. But, you may be shocked as to where your lily white family tree leads. Maybe you're not as "white" as you think!
---Leon on 10/9/11


Yes we are all descendants of Adam and Eve but we don't even have to go back that far. We are all also descendants of Noah. Remember, everyone on earth, with the exception of Noah and his wife, their three sons, and their wives, were destroyed in the universal flood.
---Jed on 10/9/11


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Hello all and thank you for your responses. Please do understand that my question was not about racism. I am not a racist or prejudice. Actually just the opposite. The point I was making about the "normal culture" is that it doesn't matter what race or color your skin is you can still live a normal and productive lifestyle. Some people think that just because someone is black they have to where too big of pants, no belt, curse, and have a bunch of kids on welfare. Now that is a truly racist mentality. So please before you take my words out of context consider that I was actually stating how any person can be taught to be a productive part of a normal culture, no matter what color you are.
---Jim on 10/9/11


I would more likely suspect a mix up at the hospital. Hospitals sometimes mix up medical charts, and name tags. Perhaps they misplaced a white baby in the black baby's carrier, and misplaced the black baby into the white baby's name-tagged carrier. But a white couple birthing a black baby is poosible. Just recently a black nigerian couple in the UK gave birth to a blond-haired blue-eyed baby girl. Just as occassionally you may get a red or a maroon rose growing from a white rose plant, or a black bean from a red bean plant, so likewise a black babe might occassionally spring forth from the lineage of white parents. Besides all diverse races on earth today have come from one single source, the first man Adam and one woman his wife.
---Eloy on 10/7/11


Ah trav i tought you forgotten to post only to insult me.

PS welcome back from the psychiatric ward, hope you had a pleasant stay.

---andy3996 on 10/8/11


"Jim, black and white are terms of convenience. Almost all humans are coloured by a brown pigment melanin. If you have none you are albino. If you have lots you are dark brown. So we are not really different colours. We are all descended from Adam and Eve aren't we...Genetics is sure interesting.
---Warwick on 10/3/11"


Thanks Warwick. You most definitely hit the nail squarely on the head. We're all HUEmans of diverse COLORS!
---Leon on 10/8/11


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I was styling a young ladies Hair one day, when she told me how racist her boss and work mates were. She explained how they had a black girl who came in for a job interview and when the girl had gone home obviosly jobless, her boss said I hate blacks and worse of all Black and jehovah's witness. Both were having a good laugh. Then she explained that she was Jehovers witness and mixed race ( not a cink in her hair or blemish on her skin

The tears fell and for the first time I could understand why people do not want to be black. I felt every emotion in her story, well held each other and had a little cry, God help those that hurt Gods children better for them, to hang a milstone around their necks and jump into the sea....
---Carla on 10/8/11


The thing about we human beings is that the only things that we know about ourselves is what our families have told us. Quite often those things are not always true. I believe Jim is about to find out some very interesting things about his or his wife's ancestors.
---KarenD on 10/7/11


Jim, so white American culture is normal, and other cultures are abnormal?

....maybe now God is setting you free with a reason.
---andy3996 on 10/6/11

You a Balaamite, would try an attach to him guilt for something he didn't do.

His family is white. It will and would be not the norm for a child not his own and a different color to be a brother. Childs whole family must address/live daily, hourly his mothers wanton mindset.
GOD may be setting him free from and Adulterater by a very visual sign.
I pray for Jim's strength to get past such as you.
Joshua 24:10
But I would not hearken unto Balaam, therefore he blessed you still: so I delivered you out of his hand.
---Trav on 10/7/11


Carla

You don't have to get ugly, I simply asked you a question.

It could very well be, but I to have a lot of mixed friends and I have never seen a child who had none of one of their parents features.

She don't have your nose, hairline, build, feet, hands, ears, beauty marks, etc?

Kinda odd,IMHO, Paul
---Paul on 10/6/11


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normal white children.
---Jim on 10/6/11

Jim

Allow me to give you some bloggers advice.

Before you post anything critique it well, look at it through the eyes of someone who desires to slam you by your own words.

You can rest assured that their are ones here trolling for something to bolster their ego, and phrases like "normal white kids" and "I'm just so ashamed to have a black child" are easy prey.

Not everyone here are your friends unfortunately.

Paul
---Paul on 10/6/11


Jim, so white American culture is normal, and other cultures are abnormal?

try to formultae you responses different. even i start to believe that you where racist and maybe now God is setting you free with a reason.
---andy3996 on 10/6/11


So he would be treated no different than the rest of our normal white children.
---Jim on 10/6/11

Yes he/she will.
Let his daddy raise him/her. Child is his.

Where is this coward at? Make him responsible.
Why should you eat "Their Shame" each day. In your own home. You didn't do the dirty.

Let him have that which they both lusted for. Each other.
Take your children with you. These two slimy slugs aren't gonna care for them.

Psalm 71:1
In thee, O LORD, do I put my trust: let me never be put to confusion.

Put away the confusion they have caused in your own family. Put away the confusion of both sets of children.

I pray for you sir and your strength.
---Trav on 10/6/11


JIM: Please be calm and give your wife the benefit of the doubt until a DNA test confirms that she is adulterous, stop assuming for now. Your assumption can lead you to do something bad.
---Adetunji on 10/6/11


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Jim...You keep digging your hole deeper. I'd just like to know what "normal white children" are. How old is this baby anyway? Some babies who have trouble breathing might appear to be darker until they are older.
---KarenD on 10/6/11


Jim you are a liar,too. You are not concerned so much about your wife cheating. You don't want that black baby! Face the truth. It is what it is. We do have genes and people in our blood line that has mixed blood. This is why genetic counseling is so important now. We sniff up behind everything moving in a pair of pants or a skirt(men) and never take our times to get to know people, their backgrounds etc...We just take chances and sometimes these type things happen. I am sorry this has happened to you. On both accounts, really. I pray you and your wife can work this out. You have a lot of work ahead of you.
---Robyn on 10/6/11


No Paul,

and let me tell you something too I think I am a very good judge of what is black and what is white, she is so not looking black to the point where it is near impossible to go out with her without people looking at me as if I abducted someone's child.

When she was young it was weird having a black breast and a pearly white baby, but she's mine she's mixed and we are all so different.

People do stare especially Asians and comment but where we live it's not taken in bad spirits either side people either ask me if i'm mum or their looks are usually answered when the girls call me mum!!!

Who cares it happens their mine and I'm Black is all I'm saying!
---Carla on 10/6/11


While it's certainly rare for two white people to have a black child, it is not unheard of. If either parent has any African ancestry in their bloodline, it is possible that distinctive features (such as skin color) may not appear in one generation, but may appear in the next.

If there is any doubt, I would suggest a paternity test, and if that is inconclusive, a DNA test (which is probably much more expensive).
---StrongAxe on 10/6/11


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I assure you I am not prejudice agaist blacks. It is the possibility of adultery that concerns me, not raising a black child. I know that even though this child may be black, he would adopt the normal culture simply from being raised in our family. So he would be treated no different than the rest of our normal white children.
---Jim on 10/6/11


Jim, really i want to urge you to do the DNA test, it will save the future, if through the test it appears the child is yours, then deffenately your relation with the kid and your wife will become as never before stronger, (because the small serpents hidden in the grass are the most dangereous)
if it is found your wife cheated, even when it hurts at least then you can take a decision founded upon truth. whatever you choose
---andy3996 on 10/6/11


Jim, I believe you really have a big problem that no one here really know's how they would respond if it happen to them. Right now they say many things but they have not been there. I believe if you don't do anything, in time your wife will feel the conviction of telling you. She could not live in joy knowing you will always have doubts. It is her problem really. I believe whatever decision you make it will be the right choice. Whether to get her to get a test, wait for her to tell you, or just live with your doubts. I really don't know what I would do. I pray that all is resolve in a righteous manner for all three of you. Just remember, the baby is not to blame. It could be God permitted for a lesson in your life. Peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 10/6/11


jim, i am not saying that you are prejudiced even though some wording of yours does indicate that. i am saying that you have a few issues to work out. it seems that the getting an answer through a DNA test is simple enough. but, it seems like you might be being told something like, "if you love me, you will trust me." you look like you are dealing with an affair.

whatever move you make (or don't), take your time. like chria said, it happened for a reason. now, take advantage of that.

i have been there too. had nine months to speculate. but, close to the end, it did not matter, the child had/has a father in me because My Father adopted me with much more pain, loss, debt, humiliation, shame...He gave it all.
---aka on 10/5/11


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Mum then told me of our white ancestors so some of you need to realise like my daughter who are mixed white the one is white with blonde hair no black features at all, so if she married a white person the chances of a black child is very likely or even unlikely.
---Carla on 10/5/11

Are you predominately black and the parent of your mixed daughter predominately white?

If so, you mean to tell us your daughter has NO black features AT ALL?


Paul
---Paul on 10/5/11


"People like you make me want to puke!"
Robyn
Robyn go ahead and puke. Get that stuff inside of you out so people can see that there is something good in you after all.
---Elder on 10/5/11


I just don't know if I could forgive my wife, especially since it was obviously with a black man.
---Jim on 10/4/11

Perhaps Robyn also read this comment.
---KarenD on 10/5/11


I recall hearing somewhere that the late Dinah Shore, who was Jewish, had a black ancestor or two herself.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 10/5/11


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"As I clarified in my earlier posts, my shame was only because of the obvious adultery because both my wife and I are white and our child is black."
Jim on 10/5/11

Get a DNA test as you have been informed that a far away black ancestor in your or your wife's family tree could account for the child being black.

"Because getting a DNA test is not trusting her, but is a way of accusing her."
Bill_willa6989 on 10/5/11

No, it is a way of showing Jim and his Old Lady that they are not as white as they thought.
---Nana on 10/5/11


My son was born white, straight brown spiky hair and nothing like either of us. The nurses came over after visiting time and said c'mon who's the father and I couldn't stop laughing, although I was shocked at first but I saw him born so I knew he was mine.

Mum then told me of our white ancestors so some of you need to realise like my daughter who are mixed white the one is white with blonde hair no black features at all, so if she married a white person the chances of a black child is very likely or even unlikely.

try asking your parents to look back if they were descendent of plantation owners in the slave trade. OR IF ANY HANKY PANKY WENT ON WAY BACK.

No shame life get ova it!
---Carla on 10/5/11


//you are a disgrace and an abomination to the human race. It is nothing wrong with black people..ok. When you speak against blacks or any race, you are insulting God! And you certainly,don't have much of a brain. If one, at all. You are a God hater and the worse kind of infidel on earth. People like you make me want to puke//


What doe the bible say again about this? O Yeah, Judge ye not for the judgement you judge people with shall be measured upon you. growing up i was extreme anti-racist, i could'nt stand them and i would abuse them verbally and even fight them.

man was I wrong, because to hate a hater you become what you hate. and i agree with jim the shame is not in the colour but the possible adultery
---andy3996 on 10/5/11


Robyn, I never said there was anything wrong with black people and I don't talk bad about anyone. So I don't understand your very rude and hateful comment. As I clarified in my earlier posts, my shame was only because of the obvious adultery because both my wife and I are white and our child is black. I never said anything bad about black people, so please quit being so hostile and hateful and automatically assuming you know how I feel about them.
---Jim on 10/5/11


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You are a God hater and the worse kind of infidel, on earth. People like you make me want to puke!
---Robyn on 10/5/11

And so do people like you.

You are the worst kind of hypocrite imaginable. Are you perfect, without prejudice? Do you love your enemies? People of different political ideas? Murderers, thieves, drug addicts?

Get real. This is a fallen world and we are sinners saved by grace. We can only love others because of the love of God.
---Mark_Eaton on 10/5/11


you certainly,don't have much of a brain. If one, at all. You are a God hater and the worse kind of infidel, on earth. People like you make me want to puke!
---Robyn on 10/5/11
And your childish, abusive, personal attacks prove you are no better, maybe worse.
---Rocky on 10/5/11


Well, I would first pray about if I really trust my wife. Because getting a DNA test is not trusting her, but is a way of accusing her.

And if she were to be a cheater . . . I married her. How did I marry her, unless I did not make sure with God about who He knows He has chosen for me to marry?

So, was I being faithful to God, if I made my own choice? Am I cheating on Jesus, if I am so ready to be in a relationship with unforgiveness?? Let the one without sin cast the first stone???

First, Jesus loves that baby, if there really is a baby. So, am I being faithful to our Groom, by loving this black baby the way Jesus loves the child???? Or, am I being decoyed by Satan elsewhere?????
---Bill_willa6989 on 10/5/11


i think this us a fake blog
---francis on 10/5/11


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Jim..you are a disgrace and an abomination to the human race. You need to go back to the sess pool you came out of. It is nothing wrong with black people..ok. When you speak against blacks or any race, you are insulting God! And you certainly,don't have much of a brain. If one, at all. You are a God hater and the worse kind of infidel, on earth. People like you make me want to puke!
---Robyn on 10/5/11


Jim, This apparently is a difficult time for you, wondering about the possibility of your wife being unfaithful, as well as your concern about what others might think. DNA testing will answer some questions, however, more important, is to take all to the Lord. These circumstances are no accident, and the Lord brings out that which needs to be brought into light. Allow Him to work in you that which He desires. He is faithful and is able to see you through. Blessings, and may you find strength, comfort and peace in HIM.
---Chris9396 on 10/5/11


"I just don't know if I could forgive my wife, especially since it was obviously with a black man."
---Jim on 10/4/11

But, you say you aren't prejudice!!!! Adultery would be worse in your mind if it was with a black man. Get a DNA test. You might be surprised to find out that YOU have black ancestors. Ask your older relatives and you might be surprised at their answer.
---KarenD on 10/5/11


Jim, "any mixed couple i know"

nobody knows but this wich could have happened to you, usually doesn't take place in the first generation. its' the third fourth generation and going that is prone to this. why i do not know, but it's a fact.of course at a certain point in procreation that ythis option becomes less likely. as everyone else allready said do a dna. i know that scares the living daylights out a ya but would'nt it be better if every question is solved
(PAUL aka) i donot think his shame has anything to do with racism. i would
---andy3996 on 10/5/11


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There is a test also to check what race one has in their blood line. There was a white entertainer and an Asian man and they both had black genes why back in history on their family tree. Neither had any black features. I am sorry for you and your family,please get that DNA test and set your mind at ease.
---Darlene_1 on 10/4/11


Jim,

I understand a little bit what you are talking about, with other people looking at you funny.

I am white, and dated a black woman for a while recently. She has an 8 year old son who's father is white, and a 3 year old who's father is black. I have a 5 year old who's mother is white.

When we would go out, people would look at us strange, probably wondering how the older child could be mixed, and the two younger ones aren't - one white and one black.

But the perception of others shouldn't govern our life. For all anyone else knows, you and your wife could have adopted a black child.

Get the DNA test. What if your wife is telling the truth? Will you abandon your own child because of skin color?
---James_L on 10/4/11


Paul, aka, I am not racist and I'm sorry if it sounded like that. Obviously I would not be ashamed of having a black child if either my wife or I were black, but we are not. And it's quite embarassing when people look and I can tell they are thinking the exact same thing I am, that there's only one way that could've happened. I just don't know if I could forgive my wife, especially since it was obviously with a black man.
---Jim on 10/4/11


Based on my limited knowledge of this subject, there would have to be at least one black person in your ancestry - it could go back 100's of years.
---wivv on 10/4/11


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I'm just so ashamed to have a black child and I don't know if I should stay or not.
---Jim on 10/4/11

Jim

Are you ashamed of the fact that your wife may have cheated on you with another man?

Or ashamed of the baby because you feel that blacks are inferior to whites in a demoralized way?

If it is the latter you may need to seek counseling to overcome racism and bigotry.

This is a child equal to all others in Gods eyes, He loved it enough to give it life.

I hope if it is not yours, and you decide to forgive your wife.
that you will love this child and protect it and care for it as it needs you to.

Paul
---Paul on 10/4/11


I'm just so ashamed to have a black child and I don't know if I should stay or not.
---Jim on 10/4/11

Not trying' to be mean or insensitive. but, it seems to me you have bigger problems.

The easy solution: DNA test, the harsh reality: DNA test.

If wife refuses...
If child is not yours genetically...
If baby's skin is dark and the parents' light...
---aka on 10/4/11


I just find it hard to believe that could happen. Any bi-racial couples I know that have kids, the children tend to take after the darker parent, or are at least a balance mixture between the two. This baby is not even half-and-half, this baby is black as night, and we are both white as ghosts, so it really seems obvious to me. I'm just so ashamed to have a black child and I don't know if I should stay or not.
---Jim on 10/4/11


There is a gentic disease which can cause " white people" to appear black. Otherwise in the word's of the late great micheal jackson
Billie Jean is not my lover
She's just a girl who claims that I am the one
But the kid is not my son
She says I am the one, but the kid is not my son
---francis on 10/4/11


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i doubt the sincerity of this question. this is easily answered by genetics and a DNA test.
---aka on 10/4/11


Certain traits are passed on by DNA and are found to be prevalent in the offspring such as facial features, hair color,shape, etc.

But it is impossible for two white parents to give birth to a predominantly black child.

Does this child simply have black features or is it a bi-racial child.

Through your heritage you can produce a child with black features presuming one of you have that in your back ground.

But if it is predominately black your wife has some explaining to do.

DNA testing will eliminate all speculation concerning this matter.

I pray you will love this child and bring it up in the admonition of the Lord regardless of whose DNA produced it.

Paul
---Paul on 10/4/11


if there's an ancestry of another gender, the chance of having a differently coloured child exists. there's a story like yours here in Togo also, a couple had a child with european traits. nose head and lips where kaukasian, and the skin was very pale, the baby had blue eyes, of course the man left after which the woman took a blood test confirming the man to be the father. it is then that the grandmother revealed the story of her mother. her greatgreat grandmothermother had two husbands the first being a german was taken prisoner in the 1st WW and the second an african. nobody ever talked about this in the family but the fifth generation the secret reemerged. afterwards the husband apologised and accepted the baby.
---andy3996 on 10/4/11


Try the DNA test [whenever it is possible to do it] to confirm if this is another dimension of life that God wants to teach all of us or something else unknown.
---Adetunji on 10/4/11


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don't accuse your wife of cheating. Look at your background and her background. DNA will tell the truth.
---shira4368 on 10/4/11


Get a DNA test to see if the baby is yours.

The results of that test will answer your question. If the baby is yours, then two white people can have a black baby.

The results of that test could also prove your wife to be a liar. That is, if the baby is not yours, then she is obviously lying about not having cheated on you.
---James_L on 10/3/11


Jim, black and white are terms of convenience. Allmost all humans are coloured by a brown pigment melanin. If you have none you are albino. If you have lots you are dark brown. So we are not really different colours. We are all descended from Adam and Eve aren't we.

It would appear in both your ancestries you have a 'black' ancestor. I knew a local family named Brown, where mum and dad were brown as were the first 4 children. The last, a girl, was pale, with blue-green eyes. She joked that by the time they made her they had run out of brown. I also met Maori couple who were quite dark but one son had light hair and blue eyes. One had an Irish grandfather, the other a Scotts grandfather.

Genetics is sure interesting.
---Warwick on 10/3/11


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