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Examples Of False Gospels

In Galatians 1:6-10 the Apostle Paul confronted the Galatians because they had turned to a different Gospel. What are some examples of people turning to a different Gospel, which is not the Gospel of Christ?

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any time I self-righteously look down on someone else, this is an example of a false Gospel

"He can have compassion on those who are ignorant and going astray, since he himself is also subject to weakness." (Hebrews 5:2)
---Bill_willa6989 on 11/13/11


The pot calling the kettel black

Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.
---TheSeg on 11/13/11


Then it doesn't matter which day you do it on or assemble, does it?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/13/11
If we refuse to obey the commands of God, how then can we say that we are worshiping God?

Mark 7:7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching [for] doctrines the commandments of men.

There is nothing in the bible that is against assembly on sundays wednesday or thursdays. It just commds it on sabbath. I don't know if you understand the difference.
---francis on 11/13/11


David, **JWs want any former witness to return.."
Not one of them have ever came to me with that offer...they simply "shun"
It's more like "good riddance".
Jws have no conception of Godly love!
Scolded my 95yr.old mother for phoning me!
I sent my mom flowers ..my brother said "quit harassing mother!" You have no idea!
---1st_cliff on 11/13/11


david, like always you twist to your own destruction.

and, don't address the important things.
---aka on 11/13/11




Aka- you state: 'didn't your family put a wedge between him and his family?'- 11/11/11.

To clarify your comments, your use of 'family' is global and not that my literal family has anything to do with the individual you're referring to on this thread.

You will notice that the individual concerned 'resigned' from being one of Jehovah's Witnesses. The 'wedge' as you call it is of his own making- 2 John 9,10.

Jehovah's Witnesses do not hate any one. In fact we want any who have associated with us to return.

From his further comments however, appears he has begun following the false gospels of Christendom- 'lets thank a Veteran' he shouts. His salvation now comes from 'Veterans'. Mine is from Christ.
---David8318 on 11/13/11


\\If worship was ONLY on the Sabbath, then why did the Temples and presently Synagogues have TWICE DAILY services?
---Cluny on 11/12/11
Keeping the sabbath day holy is only PART of worship. What we do when we come to gether on sabbath is give prause to God, Give thanks to God, listen to the word of God, worship God with our giving, and other forms of worship.\\

And this goes on EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK in Conservative and traditional synagogues.

\\ Worship is more than assembling on one special day, worship is how we live every day, what we eat, how we dress, how we speak.\\

Then it doesn't matter which day you do it on or assemble, does it?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/13/11


//...Worship is more than assembling on one special day, worship is how we live every day, what we eat, how we dress, how we speak.//

It sounds like "the (SDA) law" starts with convincing Christians to go to church on Saturday, and then more laws are added. Where are the requirements for eating, dressing, and speaking (ok, false witness and taking the Lord's name in vain) in the 10 commandments?

That is one problem with "the law," it never ends, nor is it specific. Someone, SDA in this case, starts specifying the particulars on how to "keep the law."

In Israel it is said there are 70 rabbis (actually there are more), and everyone of them has a different opinion on how to keep the law.
---Rod4Him on 11/13/11


LEE, The ONLY Verse that Sunday worshippers can use to try to back up their belief that YAHUSHUA (JESUS) arose on Sunday is MARK 16:9 "Now when YAHUSHUA was Risen early the first day of the week (Sunday), He appeared..." But, that word "risen" is an Adjective, NOT a Verb! It's saying that "On the first day of the week when YAHUSHUA was in His Risen state, He appeared..." It is NOT saying "When YAHUSHUA arose on the first day of the week, He appeared..."
---Gordon on 11/13/11


jerry6593 //Do you have a scripture that states that Sunday is the Lord's Day? (But no more TLV, please.)
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Since the church has not been commanded to observe any day as holy (see Romans 14:5-6), I am unable to provide any scripture that commands Sunday as the sabbath.

All references to the Lord's day as being Sunday is from the writers of the early church. Since they were closest to the Apostles & their teachings, we have good reason to accept the fact that Sunday is the Lord's Day.

HOWEVER, can you provide any explicit scripture that states Christians must observe the Jewish Sabbath? New Testament verse please!
---lee1538 on 11/13/11




FRANCIS 11/12/11 - Bound to keep Sunday holy - Saturday was under Mosaic Law - This end with Christ death,ROMANS 10:4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteous to every one that believeth,

COLOSSIANS 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat drink,or or in respect to holyday,or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days,

we are to worship God every day,
---RICHARDC on 11/13/11


The Lord's Day is Sunday, the day of resurrection according to all the early church writers.
---lee1538 on 11/13/11

This CANNOT be proven by THE WORD OF GOD. I coud say that Feriday is the Lord's day because that is the day on which Jesus died for my sins, just as any man could say sunday is the Lord's day because thay is the day which Jesus rose.

Word of God isaih 58:13 says that the sabbath is the Lord's day.

People who think that the Scriptures should be the sole authority, should logically become [Seventh-Day] Adventists, and keep Saturday holy." Saint Catherine Catholic Church Sentinel, Algonac, Michigan, May 21, 1995.

---francis on 11/13/11


Aka, if so called 'Christians' in the Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox and other false religious sects in Christendom obeyed Christ at John 13:34,35, there would not have been the 'World Wars' of the last century.

Those who go to war to kill members of their own faith are not obedient to the Christ, promote a false gospel and are 'children of the devil'- 1 Jo.3:10 .

Preaching the 'good news' is the most important activity for true Christians today- Mt.24:14. Whatever satanic rulership exists, JW's continue to preach the 'Good News' worldwide despite Satan's religio-political war agenda.

Aka- Jehovah's Witnesses don't waste their time on your false religious wars and debacles- there's far more important work to do.
---David8318 on 11/13/11


//I cannot believe some of these people,...blab blab ...

SDA scholar Samuele Bacchiocchi, prominent Andrews University church historian & theologian "From Sabbath to Sunday" found that the early Gentile church begin Sunday worship prior to 125 A.D. during the reign of Roman Emperor Hadrian, long before the Roman Church had any influence on other churches.

To be a credible historian, one must be able to document research so that other researchers are likely to come to the same conclusion.

Hopefully one of these days, the Adventist church will open its doors to the truth, no longer be a cult, and follow in the same footsteps of the Worldwide Church of God. AMEN!!!!

Sorry you are immune to the truth.
---lee1538 on 11/13/11


One of the greatest delusions within the church is the "love gospel" promoted by the "sin-supporters" and "faith-only" people. This lie says, "God loves me know matter what I do or say." But the truth is, God has perfect hatred and made a real hell for these who live in sin rather than live in Christ. Another delusion is that all go to heaven, no matter what they worship, for every religion's god is the same as christianity's, they just call him by a different name.
---Eloy on 11/13/11


//He, I believe, arose at the end of the Sabbath Day. :-)

Did Christ arise on Sunday?

150AD JUSTIN: But Sunday is the day on which we hold our common assembly, because it is the first day of the week and Jesus our savior on the same day rose from the dead. (First apology of Justin, Ch 68)

The Lord's Day is Sunday, the day of resurrection according to all the early church writers.

It is an act of complete stupidity to maintain that the Roman Church changed the day Christian gather for communal worship for it flies in the face of all the evidence.

It is obvious Adventists and other splinter Sabbaterians groups twist the word of God to fit their erroneous doctrine.
---lee1538 on 11/13/11


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What you have is an invalid inference the Lords day is the Sabbath from Isaiah 58:13. ---lee1538 on 11/12/11

REALY? Isaiah 58:13 THE SABBATH, ...my holy day, and call THE SABBATH a delight, the holy of the LORD,

If worship was ONLY on the Sabbath, then why did the Temples and presently Synagogues have TWICE DAILY services?
---Cluny on 11/12/11
Keeping the sabbath day holy is only PART of worship. What we do when we come to gether on sabbath is give prause to God, Give thanks to God, listen to the word of God, worship God with our giving, and other forms of worship. Worship is more than assembling on one special day, worship is how we live every day, what we eat, how we dress, how we speak.
---francis on 11/13/11


Rhonda //FACT IS Christ and Apostles OBSERVED Gods Holy Sabbath ...

No one doubts Jesus and the Apostles being Jews observed all the laws of Judaism, however, you ignore the fact that "when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law,to redeem (to free) those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons. Gal. 4:4-5

And you deliberately ignore the fact that laws distinctively Jewish in nature as is the Sabbath was not mandated to Gentile believers. Acts 15

If the Sabbath was required of Gentile believers then we would most certainly see something of it in the Epistles but we do not.

Sorry, your reasonings is lacking good sense.
---lee1538 on 11/13/11


Lee: "The Bible never refer [sic] to the Sabbath as the Lord's day, only as 'my holy day'."

I'm sure that's true for your "Today's Lee Version", but my King James Version says:

Mat 12:8 For the Son of man is Lord even of the sabbath day.

Do you have a scripture that states that Sunday is the Lord's Day? (But no more TLV, please.)
---jerry6593 on 11/13/11


i really cannot believe the garbage that some want to post here, it appears that only a few understand that Christ is the ONLY truth.
sabbath, no sabbath, ten or no commandments etcetera. it reminds me of a saying i heard
"everboy says he's the true church, but they are all wrong: we are the only true church"
---andy3996 on 11/13/11


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Act_2:20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

1Th_5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
2Pe_3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Rev 1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last:
---TheSeg on 11/13/11


And, even THAT could be questioned. He, I believe, arose at the end of the Sabbath Day. :-)
****

AMEN The Messiah stated HE would be in the grave 3 days and nights ...difficult to comprehend when rcc changed the calendar to start a day in the middle of the night CONTRARY to Gods Holy PERFECT calendar that started the new day at sunset
---Rhonda on 11/12/11


Rhonda, A-MEN! Go! I cannot believe some of these people, who, btw, do claim that the RCC is a false religion, and yet, they continue to observe their false holy week day of Sunday. Anyway, as you alluded, there are references to the 7th Day Sabbath liberally sprinkled throughout the Book of ACTS which the Church was observing and the Church was comprised of BOTH Jews and Gentiles (for in YAHUSHUA there is neither Jew nor Gentile, i.e. both are EQUAL to GOD). The whole Church observed the true Sabbath and this was AFTER the Resurrection of YAHUSHUA. Which blows away their theory that Sunday was chosen as the LORD's day because He arose on Sunday. And, even THAT could be questioned. He, I believe, arose at the end of the Sabbath Day. :-)
---Gordon on 11/12/11


Francis - What you have is an invalid inference the Lords day is the Sabbath from Isaiah 58:13. The Bible never refer to the Sabbath as the Lord's day, only as 'my holy day'.

This inference is like saying since my barn is red and an apple is red, then we must conclude my apple is a barn.

From Nehemiah 10:31 there were other holy days distinct from the Sabbath.

We know for certain there are several references made by ancient writers to identify the Lords day with Sunday and they do not make any inference from Scripture.

Ignatius of Antioch (107-110 ad,) directly calls the Lord's day as the day Christ arose from the grave. We have no good reason to reject the historical view that the Lord's day is Sunday.
---lee1538 on 11/12/11


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You are unable to support your ASSUMPTION that the Lord's day was also the Jewish Sabbath as the neither the Bible NOR any of the early church writers support that view
*****

LIARS promote "jewish sabbath" - those who bow down and worship their MOTHER rcc REV 17 and REJECT Christ and His sacrifice by dismissing Him as Lord of Gods Holy Sabbath Day

there is nothing from GODS HOLY WORD that describes a "jewish sabbath"

FACT IS Christ and Apostles OBSERVED Gods Holy Sabbath as described in more than 70 verses

"first day of week" is mentioned 8 times and never observed or alluded to being a "holy day"

not one verse and not one word abolishes Gods Holy Sabbath Day
---Rhonda on 11/12/11


You are unable to support your ASSUMPTION that the Lord's day was..Sabbath.. ---lee1538 11/12/11
''I have repeatedly offered $1,000 to anyone who can prove to me from the Bible alone that I am bound to keep Sunday holy. There is no such law in the Bible. It is a law of the holy Catholic Church alone. The Bible says 'Remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy.' The Catholic Church says, No. By my divine power I abolish the Sabbath day and command you to keep holy the first day of the week. And lo! The entire civilized world bows down in reverent obedience to the command of the Holy Catholic Church." Priest Thomas Enright, C.S.S.R., February 18, 1884, Printed in the American Sentinel, a New York Roman Catholic journal in June 1893, p. 173.
---francis on 11/12/11


If worship was ONLY on the Sabbath, then why did the Temples and presently Synagogues have TWICE DAILY services?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/12/11


It is almost impossible to tell what church is preaching a false gospel since so many are doing it. Many churches are nothing more than "social clubs with tax exemption." It's best if you focus on what is correct, based on Scripture, for example: does the church or Christian group teach/preach that Christ is the ONLY way to heaven, (not just one of many ways)? Does a church or Christian group, depend on the shed blood of Christ? Does a church believe in the original sin and as a result, we are all sinners,but forgiven though Christ? There's more, but that are the basics.
---wivv on 11/12/11


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SDA CHURCH HAS GREAT ENDORSEMENTS!!

This fourth commandment begins with the word 'remember,' showing that the Sabbath already existed when God wrote the law on the tables of stone at Sinai. How can men claim that this one commandment has been done away with when they will admit that the other nine are still binding?"- D.L. MOODY, "Weighed and Wanting," page 47.


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---francis on 11/12/11


You are unable to support your ASSUMPTION that the Lord's day was also the Jewish Sabbath as the neither the Bible NOR any of the early church writers support that view.
---lee1538 on 11/12/11

Are you kidding?!

Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day,

Isaiah 58:13 the sabbath, ...my holy day,..., the holy of the LORD,

That could be any clearer that the sabbath is THE LORD"S DAY.

Christians like to say that the bible makes it clear...
well the bible makes is 100% clear that the lord's day is the sabbath day. God himself said it
---francis on 11/12/11


If the Sabbath were in force ever since Eden then why O' why did not the writers of the Epistles (and their successors) encourage its observance?
*****

with over 70 references to the Sabbath Day OBSERVANCE by both Christ and Apostles

the "encouragement needed" and desperately sought by those who REJECT Holy Scripture will never be satisfied by clinging to rcc's traditions of men and her babylonian pagan suns-day worship

further there are ONLY 8 references to the "first day of the week" aka suns-day established by rcc

these 8 insignificant references to the first day of the week NEVER ESTABLISH suns-day NOR do they allude to the abolishment of Holy Sabbath Day
---Rhonda on 11/12/11


Jerry //Do you have any idea how silly your arguments sound to a reasonable person?

You are unable to support your ASSUMPTION that the Lord's day was also the Jewish Sabbath as the neither the Bible NOR any of the early church writers support that view.

However, there is many early church writers that speak of the Lord's day as the first day of the week - the Sunday of the Resurrection.

Sorry but you are the one with the silly argument as it is apparently that you have an obsession with the Jewish Sabbath, a command not given anywhere in the Bible to His church.

Better Jerry to follow the teachings found in the Bible than the teachings of Ellen White, who got booted out of a church that preached the gospel.
---lee1538 on 11/12/11


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Ruben, John 3:16 is the most misunderstood verse ever to be quoted from the Scripture. Many use this very verse by itself to justify the doctrine of universal atonement, that Christ "died for everyone". Yet there are multitudes in Hades.

Any verse quoted must always be read in context of the very chapter it starts with, in this case is John 3 where Nicodemus was the subject of Christ's rebuke.

Here Christ speaks of "Spiritual regeneration" in order to see and enter the kingdom of heaven. Nicodemus was a Pharisee and just like all Jews, thought that they were the only nation that God was going to save. Far be from it as Christ then said to him, hence John 3:16.
---christan on 11/12/11


Ruben, as for Luke 15:11-32, is the parable of the prodigal son. And if you believe in election, you will understand this parable for the prodigal son represented the elect and if you're an elect of God, in His time, you will return to the Father just like the prodigal son did.

Verse 24, "For this my son was dead, and is alive again..., confirms Spiritual regeneration, like Paul's epistle in Ephesians 2:1, "And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins."

"he was lost, and is found" is the same as what Christ said in the same chapter verse 6, " Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep which was lost." Confirming Christ came only for His sheep.
---christan on 11/12/11


// Jerry //the original Christians did not believe the first day of the week was the Lord's day as you do.
---
Not true at all!

The first undisputed reference to Lord's Day is in the apocryphal Gospel of Peter, probably written about the middle of the 2nd century. //

Do you have any idea how silly your arguments sound to a reasonable person? You prop up your false theory by using a non-canonical book and claiming that people living 200 years after the "original Christians" were the "original Christians." What next? Got any 2nd century "proof" of Theistic Evolution?
---jerry6593 on 11/12/11


I guess this is not clear

Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days: Which are a shadow of things to come, but the body is of Christ.

Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind, And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.


If ye then be not able to do that thing which is least, why take ye thought for the rest?
---TheSeg on 11/12/11


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Francis//The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church. Monsignor Louis Segur, Plain Talk about the Protestantism of Today, p. 213.

Yes, we realize that the Roman Church claims to have changed the Sabbath to Sunday, howbeit, they claim they did that back in the first century and they point to a myriad of early church leaders who wrote of that.And they quote many of the early fathers.

The FACT is there is virtually nothing in the New Testament or in early church history that commands the observance of any day including the observance of a sabbath.

GO FIGURE!-
---lee1538 on 11/12/11


Francis // Sabbath was binding in Eden, and it has been in force ever since...

You have that WRONG as we see virtually NO reference to the Sabbath prior to the time of Moses. Furthermore if the Sabbath had been observed prior to Moses, then we would most certainly see it observed by the Patriarchs but we do NOT.

If the Sabbath were in force ever since Eden then why O' why did not the writers of the Epistles (and their successors) encourage its observance?

Perhaps the Roman Church was right in that they changed the Sabbath back in the first century. However, if you subscribe to that claim, then you would have to accept the belief that the church in the first centuries was all Roman Catholic.
---lee1538 on 11/12/11


The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church.
****

AMEN

Over 70 references in Holy Scripture of Apostles and Christ observing Gods Holy Sabbath

ONLY 8 references to "first day of the week" none establish this day as the Lords Day or a Holy Sabbath Day

not one scripture abolishes Gods Holy Sabbath

Truth is rcc is the MOTHER of all harlots (REV 17) all false christians who observe the SUNS DAY (the first day of the week) bow down to rcc

rcc boldly tells the world she established sunday and there is NO AUTHORITY for sunday worship in GODS Holy Word

her harlot daughters are orthodox methodist baptist etc
---Rhonda on 11/12/11


"... If the fourth command is binding upon us Gentiles by all means keep it. But let those who demand a strict observance of the Sabbath remember that the seventh day is the ONLY sabbath day commanded, and God never repealed that command. If you would keep the Sabbath, keep it, but Sunday is not the Sabbath. The argument of the 'SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST' is on one point UNSSAILABLE. It is the Seventh day not the first day that the command refers to." G. Alridge, Editor, The Bible Standard, April, 1916. Church of Christ
---francis on 11/12/11


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Dionysius, Bishop of Corinth (170n A.d.), wrote to the Roman Church, Today we have kept the Lord's holy day (kyriake hagia hemera), on which we have read your letter.
---lee1538 on 11/11/11
It is well to remind the Presbyterians, Baptists, Methodists, and all other Christians, that the Bible does not support them anywhere in their observance of Sunday. Sunday is an institution of the Roman Catholic Church, and those who observe the day observe a commandment of the Catholic Church. Priest Brady, on March 18, 1903.

The observance of Sunday by the Protestants is homage they pay, in spite of themselves, to the authority of the [Catholic] Church. Monsignor Louis Segur, Plain Talk about the Protestantism of Today, p. 213.
---francis on 11/12/11


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"The Sabbath was binding in Eden, and it has been in force ever since. This fourth commandment begins with the word 'remember,' showing that the Sabbath already existed when God wrote the law on the tables of stone at Sinai. How can men claim that this one commandment has been done away with when they will admit that the other nine are still binding?"- D.L. MOODY, "Weighed and Wanting," page 47.
---francis on 11/11/11


\\FALSE/LIE: God cannot and does not hate.\\

Then how do you know that you are not one of those poor people whom God created just to hate, Trav?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/11/11


Lee, I COR. 11:32 is saying that the errant Followers are chastened to get them to learn NOT to sin or disobey. But, it IS possible that one will not learn from this Chastening and will continue to rebel. It is a matter of free-will. We do not lose free-will when we are saved. GOD does not "possess" us, like demons do to people. Satan is about "possession" and CONTROL over people. Like a Tyrant or Dictator where people have no free-will or choice. Sin is a master like that, too. But, GOD, on the other hand, allows us to maintain our GOD-Given free-will and to respond to HIS Love FREELY, as it should be. Which MEANS, we can also, at any time, refuse to love and obey. And, some Believers DO that!
---Gordon on 11/11/11


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Ruben, the qualifier is for those who BELIEVE!

There are many people who claim to be CHRISTIAN, yet they reject who CHRIST IS, and what CHRIST DID ON THE CROSS.

These people don't believe what CHRIST DID IS SUFFECIENT, so they keep adding to this and say people need to do more, because reality they REJECT CHRIST and what CHRIST ACCOMPLISHED ON THE CROSS!
---Rob on 11/11/11


Can't improve on your post above...Most preachers do though. ---Trav on 11/11/11

no preacher here. just a dog feeding on crumbs that Jesus doesn't seem try to keep from those that are not HIS. ..He shall save HIS people from their sins." Matthew 1:21,

Act 9:15 But the Lord said to him, "Go, for he is a chosen instrument of mine to carry my name before the Gentiles and kings and the children of Israel."

Paul is HIS.

Rom 1:16 ...remember the principle of first last, last first

"The righteous shall live by faith."

Jesus marvels at faith shown in the Gospels. the only faith shown in Gospels was faith of dogs.

Only a fool will hide his/her lamp under a basket.
---aka on 11/11/11


francis //Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
---
And anybody that is knowledgeable of the Bible will tell you that the commandments of God in this verse are NOT the 10 commandments.

The writer of Revelation - John, did not use the Greek word nomos meaning law in this verse.

Now you know why so many people are not SDAs, as they theology is all screwed up.
---lee1538 on 11/11/11


Trav *FALSE/LIE: Jesus died for everyone in the world.

"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.:(Jhn 3:16)


Trav *FALSE/LIE: By your own free-will, you can choose to go/accept Jesus Christ.

" And the younger of them said to his father, Father, give me the portion of goods that falls to me" (LK 15:11)

Did not the younger son leave his Father hand?

"for this my son was dead and is alive again, he was lost and is found" LK 15:24)

Can not be dead and then alive, unless you left the Father's hand!
---Ruben on 11/11/11


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David8318, Today in this country is "Remembrance Day" I believe it's "Veteran's Day" in the USA!
Jehovah did not lift a finger to save Christians from the Roman arena for more than 200years.
He did not intervene when Hitler began the Jewish genocide.
He would not have stopped the Axis forces from overrunning Europe or America.
Thank a Veteran today for your "freedom of religion"!
Live in reality not fantacy!
---1st_cliff on 11/11/11


TRUTH: ..He shall save HIS people from their sins." Matthew 1:21, "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine." John 17:9
FALSE/LIE: Jesus died for everyone in the world.
TRUTH: "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." Romans 9:13
FALSE/LIE: God cannot and does not hate.
TRUTH: "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent Me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:44
FALSE/LIE: By your own free-will, you can choose to go/accept Jesus Christ.
---christan on 11/10/11

Amen. Amen. Amen. Embracer of Truth. Can't improve on your post above.

Most preachers do though.
---Trav on 11/11/11


Gordon //ONLY by the shed Blood of YAHUSHUA can one have access to the Mercy, Grace and Forgiveness of GOD

I can understand your feelings when you see Christians that are disobedient, however, I would doubt a genuine Christian can really be happy with himself as God does discipline those whom He loves that they may not be condemned with the rest of the world.

1Co 11:32 But when we are judged by the Lord, we are disciplined so that we may not be condemned along with the world.

Certainly we must continue to examine ourselves and seek the judgment of God to be more conformed to what is expected of us.

But at the same time, our model of what a Christian is, may not be that of others as there are different convictions.
---lee1538 on 11/11/11


There are so many christians denominations in the world each with their own " gospel" that it would take ten x ten blogs to address them all.
So rather than try to address all the false gospel teachers, let me just cut to the chase and BIBLICALLY IDENTIFY the ONE TRUE GOSPEL TEACHERS:
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there i no light in them.
Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
---francis on 11/11/11


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Andy don't say that you are messing with Cluny god.
Is there more then one?

1Co 12:14 For the body is not one member, but many.
1Co 12:15 If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body, is it therefore not of the body?
1Co 12:16 And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body, is it therefore not of the body?
1Co 12:17 If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling?
1Co 12:18 But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him.

You understand?
Peace
---TheSeg on 11/11/11


Once-Saved, Always-Saved is a major false doctrine popular in the Church today. Salvation is conditional upon the Believer living according to GOD's Ways. ONLY by the shed Blood of YAHUSHUA can one have access to the Mercy, Grace and Forgiveness of GOD. BUT, it is up to the Believer to be willing to follow GOD faithfully. GOD is ABLE to make His followers stand, but, FIRST, the followers have to WANT to stand. "Standing" in the LORD requires the cost of LAYING YOUR LIFE DOWN, and saying No! to the flesh-nature and TAKING UP THE CROSS DAILY to deny the flesh and follow GOD. This is a price some are not willing to pay, as they continue to give in to "pet" sins, and STILL believe that they are on their way to Heaven. NOT!!
---Gordon on 11/11/11


Jerry //the original Christians did not believe the first day of the week was the Lord's day as you do.
---
Not true at all!

The first undisputed reference to Lord's Day is in the apocryphal Gospel of Peter, probably written about the middle of the 2nd century. The Gospel of Peter 35 and 50 use kyriake as the name for the first day of the week, the day of Jesus' resurrection. That the author referred to Lord's Day in an apocryphal gospel purportedly written by St. Peter indicates that the term kyriake was very widespread and had been in use for some time.

Dionysius, Bishop of Corinth (170n A.d.), wrote to the Roman Church, Today we have kept the Lord's holy day (kyriake hagia hemera), on which we have read your letter.
---lee1538 on 11/11/11


//cluny are you saying that the orthodox are the only original?

Cluny, I am sure, recognizes the fact that the early church was highly diversified in their beliefs and worship, but was united politically under the Bishop of Constantinople. It is from that political division that he claims the orthodox was the original church. But does that benefit him or prove that he has the truth that others abandoned? NO
---lee1538 on 11/11/11


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\\As a Seventh day Adventist I say it is any church that puts tradition above scripture. For those who do so are putting the words of men above that of GOD. \\

Your false prophetess Ellen G. White (whose name adds up to 666), claimed that in her writings, God instructed people more earnestly that in the pages of the Bible, so you have no room to talk.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/11/11


//cluny are you saying that the orthodox are the only original? which one of your many subdivisions is the first amongst the first?
---andy3996 on 11/10/11//

Andy don't say that you are messing with Cluny god.
---Scott1 on 11/11/11


David8318, so, what you are saying is that you are willing to enjoy the liberties of whatever country has fought for you, but you do not have to pay for it?

does the Watchtower Society even let you show any appreciation for those of another belief that fights for your right to criticize them?

and, like cliff_1 said...didn't your family put a wedge between him and his family? isn't that war on a different level?
---aka on 11/11/11


be sure to note that the Christ spoke about in those verses is referred to as the revelation of Jesus Christ and not revelation of another angel.
---aka on 11/11/11


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Cluny: Come clean, now. You are not really Orthodox, as the original Christians did not believe in Theistic Evolution or that the first day of the week was the Lord's day as you do.
---jerry6593 on 11/11/11


Rhonda, you need to know what you are talking about when you say Baptist are off spring of catholic. I do realize you are not a learned person in the doctrine of baptist. Just read your King James bible and what ever you read, that is what we are.
---shira_4368 on 11/11/11


Samuel, as I have stated many times before, I will state again. I grew up in a SDA home, so I know first hand what they believe and teach.

You wrote, "As a Seventh day Adventist I say any church that puts tradition above scripture. For those who do so are putting the words of men above that of God."

Samuel, it that is true, why do SDA's clearly reject what is written in Galatians 2:17-21?

Also, Ellen G. White has been exposed and proven to be a FALSE PROPHET. Yet on these very blogs, a member of the SDA Church wrote, "NO CHRISTIAN LIBRARY IS COMPLETE UNLESS IT INCLUDES THE WRITINGS OF ELLEN G. WHITE. Why is this?
---Rob on 11/10/11


TRUTH: "And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for He shall save HIS people from their sins." Matthew 1:21, "I pray for them: I pray not for the world, but for them which thou hast given me, for they are thine." John 17:9
FALSE/LIE: Jesus died for everyone in the world.

TRUTH: "As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated." Romans 9:13
FALSE/LIE: God cannot and does not hate.

TRUTH: "No man can come to me, except the Father which hath sent Me draw him: and I will raise him up at the last day." John 6:44
FALSE/LIE: By your own free-will, you can choose to go/accept Jesus Christ.
---christan on 11/10/11


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David8318, I like how you quote Jn.13's command to have "love among yourselves"
You need only to walk a mile in my shoes and feel the hatred from family members to figuratively "kill" those who dare resign from the group!
That was my "crime" (a formal resignation)
Former "best buddies and family" turned on me like a pack of wild animals. Forbade any inter-communication!
30years is a long time to hate!
Jehovah's love is unconditional!
---1st_cliff on 11/10/11


\\Cluny, you sound just like, JW's, Mormon's, exclusive Brethren, etc.\\

But we DID exist before them.
---Cluny on 11/10/11


most try to use a "time past" gospel such as Acts 2:38
---michael_e on 11/10/11


Gospel of Christ is Gods Kingdom on Earth when Christ returns to resurrect all ruling from Jerusalem as KING OF KINGS

until then this world BELONGS to Satan

either one is a True Believer in Christ believing EVERY WORD of God following examples of Christ

or they believe mens IDEA's about Holy Scripture and the traditions of men ...easy to tell whether one aligns themselves with rcc the MOTHER of all harlots REV 17 ...her harlot daughters are orthodox, baptist, methodist etc

aligning with BRAND name of false christianity or ALIGNED with Christ as a Believer in Gods everlasting TRUTH in Holy Scripture - impossible to be BOTH

all false gospels PREACH their brand and ALLIANCE with their brand as daughters of rcc
---Rhonda on 11/10/11


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cluny are you saying that the orthodox are the only original? which one of your many subdivisions is the first amongst the first?
---andy3996 on 11/10/11


The Roman Catholics say it is the Orthodox who left the faith and they are the first church.

As a Seventh day Adventist I say it is any church that puts tradition above scripture. For those who do so are putting the words of men above that of GOD.

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.
Isa 51:4 Hearken unto me, my people, and give ear unto me, O my nation: for a law shall proceed from me, and I will make my judgment to rest for a light of the people.
2Ti 3:15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
---Samuel on 11/10/11


Cluny said:
"Anybody but Orthodox, who are the original Church."

Cluny, you sound just like, JW's, Mormon's, exclusive Brethren, etc.
Your boasts about Orthodoxy are a good signal to ward people away from it. Thanks.
---Haz27 on 11/10/11


You want examples?

Methodists, Baptists, Roman Catholics, Pentecostals, Oneness--

Anybody but Orthodox, who are the original Church.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/10/11


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Anon- you forgot to mention the false gospels in Catholicism and its sects- Orthodoxy, Protestant and Fundamentalist sects.

Interesting difference between the groups you mention in your post 11/10/11 is that Jehovah's Witnesses do not involve themselves with the Political/military elements of Satan's world. Jehovah's Witnesses have no involvement in the military conflicts supported by those religious groups.

Jehovah's Witnesses obey Christ's command to have 'love among themselves'- John 13:34,35. A command and Gospel teaching which many professed 'Christians' have ignored and continue to ignore, even among their own churches.
---David8318 on 11/10/11


Anon, it is true about those you have mentioned.

We must also include the SDA's, and those of the Word of Faith Movement.
---Rob on 11/10/11


How about Mormonism? Jehovah Witnesses? How about people who believe Allah and Jehovah are the same God?

How about we talk about the REAL Gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ?
---anon on 11/10/11


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