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With Wings As Eagles

What does this scripture really mean? Especially the part about mount up with wings as eagles.
Isaiah 40:31 - But they that wait upon the LORD shall renew their strength, they shall mount up with wings as eagles, they shall run, and not be weary, and they shall walk, and not faint.

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Interestingly, the levels of strength in this verse go in descending order. You start out flying like an eagle, then go to running, then eventually walking. But you never faint.
---Jed on 11/26/11


quoting warwick says this
"It has to do with the fact they rise to great heights using thermals, an intrinsic part of God's creation, not by their own efforts or power. The quote is telling us we Christians should achieve what God has planned for us to do not via our efforts or power but via His.

The eagle was simply an example which God could use to illustrate His point.
---Warwick on 11/22/11

good point warwick.kudos!It is well explained
---mj on 11/24/11


Eagles can fly high, and rest on the air currents so that they so big can fly more easily, maybe, than even the little birds who are flapping so hard to get to wherever they are going. "Rest in the LORD" (in Psalm 37:7), "striving according to His working which works in me mightily," Paul says in Colossians 1:29. God's working in us (Philippians 2:13) gives us His energizing of His own power almighty which never tires or gets worn out or hurt or made cold in loving. "For our God is a consuming fire." (Hebrews 12:29) So, His loving in us grows stronger, and this reconditions our emotions and even our bodies.
---Bill_willa6989 on 11/24/11


Warwick, you are right on how the Bible is to be interpreted. That's what I was looking for in the answers concerning the flood. We have two groups of evangelicals, Conservatives and liberals. Conservatives are those who believe Scripture is totally without error. Liberals, are those who believe Scripture is without error whenever it speaks on matters of salvation and the Christian faith, but that it may posses errors in historical facts and other details. Rocky happens to be a liberal. First, if the Bible errs when it speaks on matters not essential to salvation, then it may be in error whenever it speaks about the nature of man, interpersonal and family relationships, sexual lifestyles, the will and emotions, related to Christian living.
---Mark_V. on 11/23/11


Warwick Part 2: As the Church history has shown, groups who begin by questioning the validity of small details of Scripture eventually question larger doctrines as well. You see if we begin with the presupposition that Scripture does contain errors, and then find an apparent discripancy between two or more texts, we may decide that one or both of them contain errors. Yet, if we begin with the presupposition that Scripture does not contain errors in the first place, we are motivated to find an exegetically justifiable way of resolving any seeming discrepancy. Rocky has told us it has errors, and that's before we even debate a passage. He begins from a liberal point of view.
---Mark_V. on 11/23/11




I don't believe the quote has anything to do with eagles being good, bad, or ugly. It has to do with the fact they rise to great heights using thermals, an intrinsic part of God's creation, not by their own efforts or power. The quote is telling us we Christians should achieve what God has planned for us to do not via our efforts or power but via His.

The eagle was simply an example which God could use to illustrate His point.
---Warwick on 11/22/11


//Birds of prey were definitely not revered in Palestine//

I am curious where that came from. From my reading the Griffin Vulture, which was more abundant in ancient times, seems to have been respected. It is a carrion bird that only eats dead creatures. It is not a threat to live animals. The Hebrews probably liked the bird because it ate things that made them ceremonially unclean. The bird stays away from people as much as possible and soars for hours. They probably don't see quite as well as people think. They congregate and if one bird sees something dead, the others see it going for something and joins it. If a person comes close, they leave.

From my reading the Griffon Vulture would have been a respected and revered bird.
---Rod4Him on 11/21/11


Anon, I've been thinking about this post, and how it's gotten off track...and just wish to add
Ps 27:14 "Wait on the LORD,
Be of good courage,
And He shall strengthen your heart,
Wait, I say, on the LORD!"
Ps 33:20 "Our soul waits for the LORD,
He is our help and our shield."
Be blessed!
---Chria9396 on 11/21/11


Eagle in English has the connotation of a noble creature but the Hebrew world is Nasher meaning an eagle or any large bird of prey that lacerates it catch. They recognizes that it could fly High, outstanding eye sight and strong enough to carry relatively large weight in relation to its size. But to Palestinian Sheppard any large bird of prey was a nuisance and a threat as they will kill his lambs and because they are air born they are harder to defend against the land threats of wolves, lions or wild dogs. Birds of prey were definitely not revered in Palestine, any more than sheep ranchers like coyotes, there was a bumper sticker in Montana Eat More Lamb 10,000 Coyotes Can't Be Wrong.
---Blogger9211 on 11/21/11


Rocky, to take someting at face-value means to take it as it appears to be. "At Caesarea there was a man named Cornelius, a centurion in what was known as the Italian Regiment. Acts 10:1. I see no reason not to take this at face-value.

Then we read "......the mountains and the hills before you shall break forth into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands" Isaiah 55:12

Knowing mounains don't sing, and trees don't have hands I am confident God does not expect us to take this at face-vaule but as a poetic expression of joy.

The more we read Scripture, cover to cover, the more we understand God's revelation and the figures of speech He uses.
---Warwick on 11/21/11




Rocky there are differences in the Bible from one writer to another which is to be expected. If there are no differences between individual's testimonies the police consider it collusion.

Luke 17:27 "They were eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all.'

Matthew 24:38,39 "For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and they were unaware until the flood came and swept them all away, so will be the coming of the Son of Man."

But is there any significance in the differences here?
---Warwick on 11/21/11


"I take the Bible at face-value, unless there is good reason not to do so."
--Warwick 11/12/11
What does face value mean?
Since heliocentrism was not accepted until a few hundred years ago, how would you interpret the Biblical passages that the Earth does not move and the Sun revolves around it?
Ecc 1:5 The sun also ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hasteth to his place where he arose.
See also Psa 93:1 and 1 Ch 16:30
These were not meant as figures of speech.
Why won't you answer the other questions I asked about the Bible or explain why you won't answer?
---Rocky on 11/21/11


--Warwick 11/21/11
I am told that sceptics 50-60 years ago said there were hundreds of errors in the Bible. Most of these have since been shown not to be errors.
--Wikipedia
Manuscripts with NT texts differ among themselves with some estimates of 200,000 to 300,000 differences among various manuscripts...
A study of 150 Greek [manuscripts] of the Gospel of Luke has revealed more than 30,000 different readings... It is safe to say that there is not one sentence in the New Testament in which the [manuscript] is wholly uniform

These differences may not all reflect doctrinal errors but they do represent differences where man has decided how to translate a passage and selected which variant to include.
---Rocky on 11/21/11


anon, I think the scripture is displaying strength. Please everyone use this in the context it was meant to be. Warwick, I am so happy you are published writer and scholor but pleeeeeeaaaaassssseeeee, The Holy Bible is 12th grade reading....just need to study history and greek and hebrew word studies. If I were you I would read revelation and believe every single word of it.
---shira4368 on 11/21/11


\\The Bible is similar to any good literature in that it is written in good grammar and uses common figures of speech.\\

Actually, the worst Greek with the poorest grammar in the entire Bible is Revelation. Did you know that? That's why it's so hard to translate.

And you must admit the figures therein are very uncommon.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/21/11


Darlene, youre welcome. The scriptures truly are encouraging. I have wondered about the use of the word eagles also since as you say they are preditors, and Ive thought about it in relation to Matt 24:28, a different context
---Chria9396 on 11/21/11


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Technically, it is referring to a Griffin Vulture. However, the eagle sounds much more poetic.
---Rod4Him on 11/20/11


Rocky I haven't said I take the whole Bible at "face value" but that "I take the Bible at face-value, unless there is good reason not to do so." Being reasonably literate, as a published writer, I can usually discriminate between straight-forward prose, and poetry, parable, allegory or such. Another clue is to see how Jesus and the apostles took Genesis, for example. They quoted from, or alluded to just the first 11 chapters 107 times, always as historical reality.

The Bible is similar to any good literature in that it is written in good grammar and uses common figures of speech. If you can read and understand good literature you should be able to read and understand the Bible.
---Warwick on 11/21/11


Rocky, As regards the infallibility of Scripture let me say in talking with older experts I am told that sceptics 50-60 years ago said there were hundreds of errors in the Bible. Most of these have since been shown not to be errors. I am confident the rest will be explained in time. You quoted one about sunrise as though that is an error, but we say exactly the same thing today. That isnt an error.

I have not yet found anything in the Bible which has caused me to doubt that it is God's revealed Truth.

You claim I do not answer questions when in reality I answer many. You just ask so many. How much time do you think I have?
---Warwick on 11/21/11


Rocky, what fool believes the creation and flood accounts were historical realities? Jesus and His apostles do
--Warwick 11/20/11
An issue underlying how you repeatedly distort what is written by other posters (and then attack them) is that some believe the Bible is not inerrant while you believe it should be taken at "face-value", whatever that means. And while these differences are the source of many others, you absolutely refuse to answer basic questions about your beliefs about the Bible. Why are you afraid to report your beliefs? Why won't you answer the questions I asked several times?
And I already responded about the scriptures you cited as you have posted them many times.
---Rocky on 11/20/11


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Rocky, what fool believes the creation and flood accounts were historical realities? Jesus and His apostles do, and you call them fools! Careful.

See 2 Peter 3:5,6 "For they deliberately overlook this fact, that the heavens existed long ago, and the earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God, and that by means of these the world that then existed was deluged with water and perished."

Luke 17:26,27 Jesus says "Just as it was in the days of Noah, so will it be in the days of the Son of Man. They were eating and drinking and marrying and being given in marriage, until the day when Noah entered the ark, and the flood came and destroyed them all."

Not true you say!
---Warwick on 11/20/11


Chria9396,thank you. Those are wonderfully encouraging scriptures you gave. They also tell me that the original verse has a much deeper meaning than what just reading it can say. It is interesting to me that God uses an eagle as the example since they are birds of prey,preditors who are on the top rung of the pecking order. All below them are subject to their strength. That reminds me of the NT verse which says we have power over all the power of the enemy,as God's children that puts us on the top rung spirtually when we remember to live in the power given us from God through Jesus.
---Darlene_1 on 11/20/11


Isn't it obvious that this is a poetic passage not to be understood literally You don't actually think this means that some of us will sprout feathers, do you?
--Cluny 11/18
Of course not, no more than I believe the creation or flood stories or the parables of Jesus are intended to be taken as literal events. Who would be foolish enough to believe that?
---Rocky on 11/20/11


It's a metaphor. As people say, I'd rather fly with eagles than work with turkeys.
--John.usa 11/18/11
I like the slightly different sarcastic, humorous version, "It's hard to fly with the eagles when you work with turkeys".
---Rocky on 11/20/11


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Darlene,well said! God's protection is evident in Deut 32:10-11 In a desert land he found him,in a barren and howling waste.
He shielded him and cared for him,he guarded him as the apple of his eye, like an eagle that stirs up its nest and hovers over its young, that spreads its wings to catch them and carries them aloft.
Also deliverance, Ex 19:4
You yourselves have seen what I did to Egypt, and how I carried you on eagles wings and brought you to myself."
---chria9396 on 11/19/11


The Bible speaks several times about God's people being hid in the shadow of God's wings. Psalms 91:4 He shall cover you with his feathers,and under his wings shall you trust:his truth shall be your shield and buckler. In light of those verses the "wings as eagles" doesn't just denote strength but also a place of safety and refuge in God. In not getting weary or fainting it shows once again those who trust in God,his truth in his Word,that God is made strong in our weakness when we surrender everything to him he will see us through. We will spiritually rise above the reality of the trouble and live and overcome adversity by our faith.
---Darlene_1 on 11/19/11


the eagle has always been a symbol of power and strength. ancient Romans had lots of eagles, USA logos the bald eagle. The analogy is that we base or strength on God (they that wait upon the Lord) shall be like eagles. I do like the flying on thermals describtion below.
---Scott1 on 11/19/11


This scripture means God will strengthen you through your trials of life as you rest in Him. I also learned that "wait on Him" means serve the LORD..as you serve God to build the Kingdom Of God and to witness to others about Jesus Christ, God will bless you and strengthen you. You won't be weary in your body. God will renew you and strengthen you to fulfil the work He has called you to do! God bless you!
---bee7374 on 11/19/11


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Christians receive "renewed strength" because God Almighty is our strength. Sinners and evil may destroy us, but God heals, God resurrects, God restores. When we are in Christ and we walk in him, God is our very present help. All of hell may rage around us, but He that is in us is greater than he that is in the world. We pray and praise and worship Jesus Almighty. When the sinners cast the three men of God into the fiery hell in Daniel, Christ was right there with them, and the fire did not hurt them, and when the sinner asked them to come out of the firey furnace, they came out and not even the smell of smoke was upon their person.
---Eloy on 11/19/11


Anon, the principle here on these passage in Isaiah 40:31 is the principle of patience. When believers pray and are patient, they are blessed by God with strength in their trials (2 Cor. 12:8-10). The Lord also wants believers to be patient awaiting His Second Coming. The words "with wings of eagels" is a metaphor, and refers to strength to get through any trails. You will fly right through them. But we have to be patient and wait for the power of God.
---Mark_V. on 11/19/11


It's a metaphor. As people say, I'd rather fly with eagles than work with turkeys.
---John.usa on 11/18/11


Isn't it obvious that this is a poetic passage not to be understood literally, much less disassembled and dissected phrase by phrase?

You don't actually think this means that some of us will sprout feathers, do you?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 11/18/11


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This was always one of my favorite scriptures justifying my life as a pilot!
---1st_cliff on 11/18/11


Anon, if you watch an eagle you will see they rise up on thermals with very little effort of their own.

Conversely sparrows flap furiously to gain comparatively little height. It is all their own effort.

Thermals are part of Gods creation therefore provided for many reasons including eagles. The eagle soars high using what God provides.

How does this Scripture apply to us? I believe God is telling us to do things in His strength by methods He provides for those who follow him. That we should not struggle in our own strength like the sparrow but soar upon what God provides for us.
---Warwick on 11/19/11


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