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Why do parents teach there children that there is a Santa Claus?

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 ---Paul on 12/19/11
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God is opening the eyes of his children and when we see that the church we have been worshipping in follows paganism,myths and man made traditions such as Christmas Harvest festivals, and Easter the giving of chocolate bunnies,Halloween, the selling of goods in church etc... God has warned us through the prophets of these things and still we as a body of people cannot hear to stop following these traditions just as the children of Israel were rejected so will we get the same punishments disobeying his word.

It matters like a piece of cancer left to its own devices. It spreads and then kills!
---Carla on 2/16/12

Are you speaking of Satans Claws? LOL. When I was young my parents played Santa. However when I had children we did not play that wicked game. Simply Satan AKA Santa has all the powers of Yashua himself. When I found out the truth I was crushed. If Santa was not real. Was Yashua then not real? We live in a wicked world. We need to be able to have a footing that is solid on the ground. Truth above all things is paramount to keep you from swaying. You also want your children to know a solid foundation not a fantacy so they do not become shallow thinkers as adults which is rampent today. Young impressions do make a difference in life. Not selfish, self centered, entitled adults.
---Neptune0461 on 2/10/12

so adults cannot innocently play?

Scott how old are you? Are you claiming responsible adults can lie in name of fun?

spouse lies to their beloved about cheating yet really didn't is that a pleasing "innocent adult lie"?

if someone tells you a loved one is dead laughing and mocking at your shock and grief then telling you it was innocent playful lie for fun

are you telling me you are incapable of having fun without lying?

gosh how pitiful

and as I already stated the father of lies is Satan and all your innocent lies please him

God is the father of truth and all good things yet you want to lie and have fun

you prefer serving the father of lies

I prefer serving GOD
---Rhonda on 2/7/12

//...little children cuz they innocently play

what a stark contrast to parents who deliberately and maliciously LIE to their children in the name of fun//

so adults cannot innocently play?
---Scott1 on 2/7/12

If you are worried about children being lied to don't send them to daycare or school. Kids will tell kids more fantasy lies than you ever will.

now that is some logic there

advise people to be paranoid about other little children cuz they innocently play

what a stark contrast to parents who deliberately and maliciously LIE to their children in the name of fun

the very same parents who would (or maybe they don't) punish or scold their child for lying even though the parent outright LIED to the child "in fun" for years ...things that make people who can think go hmmmm

Satan the father of lies would be well pleased
---Rhonda on 2/6/12

For example one of my favorite and earliest christmas memories was seeing a half eaten apple on the ground that my Dad gave to one of the reindeer. now watching elf, rudolf, frosty the snowman cartoons is hilarious. If you are worried about children being lied to don't send them to daycare or school. Kids will tell kids more fantasy lies than you ever will.
---Scott1 on 2/6/12

Maybe I just don't understand something simple. If so, my apologies - really

ask yourself why adults openly tell their children ALL OTHER fictional characters are pretend yet santaclaus is real?

then when the child is old enough to comprehend after YEARS of being LIED TO by their parents they trust THEN parents tell their children the truth santaclaus does not exist

now parents have a WIDE OPEN DOOR for children to begin lying and if santaclause does not exist why does christ

lies can never be truth those who LIE often dismiss the lies they tell about SO MANY other things because they become accustomed to lying

very sick and twisted to LIE to your very own children in "name of fun"
---Rhonda on 2/6/12

Santa Claus is a lie from the devil we are not to tell lies, how would you feel when your children grow up and accuse you of being a hypocrite because all their lives you told them not to lie yet you lied their entire childhood about a man who did not and could not possibly exist?

Why is it against Christ, it keeps people from knowing Christ in it's entirety... The truth you could have told your children which is about salvation you, sold lies faking it as truth, for your own personal gratification.

Speak life and truth not lies and myths, enjoy true salvation instead of man made traditions and myths.
---Carla on 2/6/12

Eloy and Rita: PLEASE don't take this as an argument - because it isn't. I am just wondering how S.Claus actually 'keeps people from Christ'.

Maybe I just don't understand something simple. If so, my apologies - really
---Jennifer on 2/5/12

Rita H, you're singing my song. Parents, teach children about Christ's birthday on CHRISTmas day, and forget about the rediculous satan claus.
---Eloy on 2/3/12

Santa Clause is a lie and probably keeps more people away from Christ than any other lie. No matter how many excuses people conjure up to make this lie acceptable and other lies not acceptable the fact remains that a lie is a lie is a lie is a lie.
---Rita_H on 2/3/12

Peter, thank you kindly. I really do appreciate it. It becomes very old when I post Yes, and the dissers post No: and likewise when I post No, then the dissers post Yes. These sinners cannot cease feeding their flesh, it is so predictable that when I post the gospel, it is always the same dissers that are compelled with their foolish dissensions. For unless two walk together in agreement, then there is no fellowship, only opposition.
---Eloy on 2/2/12

Eloy: If you are so easily offended, I'll just avoid talking to you.

As you want you don't go on being insulting, because the insult will be answered if it errs
---Peter on 2/2/12


I agree with you on this point. Parents teach their children to believe in the "Invisible Trinity" of Jesus, Santa, and the Easter Bunny. Later, when the kids discover that Santa isn't real, and the Easter Bunny isn't real, it isn't a far stretch for them to conclude that Jesus isn't real either.

Young children haven't yet learned the difference between reality and make-believe, and the subtle distinction between "we can't see it because it's invisible" and "we can't see it because it's fictional" is beyond them.
---StrongAxe on 2/2/12

Paul, It is their tradition to try to humor their children, but nonetheless it is a NonChristian tradition.
---Eloy on 2/1/12

Eloy, you are right when you say,
"Yes, and it dissapointing when you find out later in life that you have been misled to believe a lie" When you find out it will be most disappointing that you have been misled. Second, you are right again when you said,
" O' how hot will be their torments in hell, and their never-ending screams for their foolishness against Christ and their spite they have done against his holy birth."
Yes, for those who spoke blasphemies against His suffering on the cross, people like you who say He didn't suffer enough like you have, those like you will feel like taking back every word they said about Christ, but it will be too late.
---Mark_V. on 1/30/12

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There was once a good man called Nicholas who gave gifts to poor children. Rather than accept this generosity and self-sacrifice as examples of Christ-like behavior, you revile it as lies. Why?

It is a sad thing that this holy man's generosity has become commercialized into the whole "red-suited santa" compulsive shopping-crazy greed-fest we have today, but what advertisers have turned him into today should not diminish what the man did centuries ago, any more than modern tacky commercial exploitations of Jesus today have the power to make the original Jesus into a lie.
---StrongAxe on 1/30/12

Rhonda, Yes, and it dissapointing when you find out later in life that you have been misled to believe a lie, and then to make things worse, sinners will spin it some more and say that there really was a santa called Saint Nicholas, whom gave gifts to children- that is pure hogwash!, and it is disgusting when I hear sinners and "so-called" pastors spreading such lies to people and even selling their books with the lies to the people. O' how hot will be their torments in hell, and their never-ending screams for their foolishness against Christ and their spite they have done against his holy birth. For when the blind lead the blind, then both will fall into the ditch.
---Eloy on 1/29/12

like most things in life today people want to be accepted more than take responsibility and be truthful in ALL THINGS

majority sell the santa lie adults who don't give this lie to their children are ridiculed by majority for "not letting their children have fun"

instead of standing up for themselves and their children they want to be liked by the majority so they spin the santa lie too - adult peer pressure! ...few adults today think for themselves and choose to REJECT the evil of santa because they crave acceptance by MEN

no logical reasoning for lying to children even in the name of "fun" because children are quite capable of having MORE FUN without the LIES
---Rhonda on 1/28/12

peter, Birds of a feather flock together: sinners with sinners, and saints with saints. Thus I care not for your misjudgings. And please do not address me until that time that you are ready to receive the truth I post.
---Eloy on 1/27/12

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Eloy: I don't think Cluny is saying something 'damaging'.

I know if we take it too far, we can be damaged. But I don't read Cluny's comment, about the fact that 'fictional characters' NOT being AUTOMATICALLY damaging. On that I will agree.

However, Santa Claus is not a character I care to think about... I feel he is too likely to cause damage, even though that character may be safe for some!
---Peter on 1/27/12

Cluny, did I read a edifying Christian remark? No, I didn't think so...Too bad.
---Eloy on 1/6/12

Hello Mark, it is alright, I got thick skin and a since of humor so Eloy can be an amusing person to conversate with. Eloy, God bless you brother and a big HO, hHO, HO!
In His loving grip, smile everybody or your face might stay like that. At least pretend you are at Church or something, come on paint that smile on, a little bigger, one more brush stroke, a little more cheek, show us your pretty shiny ivories, thats it, you look just like Bozo the clown now.
On Dancer, Prancer, Blitsin and Rudolf, turn that bright heating lamp on, its getting cold up here, to all a good night and an extra dose of laughing gas to loosen you up.
---Poppa_Bear on 1/6/12

\\Examples: santy clauses, easter bunnies, tooth faries, Hercules, genies in bottles, voyages of Sinbad, alice in wonderland, snow white and the seven dwarfs, et cetera and et cetera: all fake, and all lies.\\

All fiction is, to a certain extent, a lie--but discerning readers, even children, know it's made up.

Too bad youm can't tell the difference between literary fiction and the fantasies of yourm own delusions, such as your non-facility in Biblical and English languages.
---Cluny on 1/6/12

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Poppa Bear, sorry you had to start your New Year been condemned by Eloy. You have now joined his list of people he has condemned including me. He is not putting up with anyone this year either. Maybe if we had agreed with him, and not question his answers, he would allow us to go to heaven with him. I prayed the New Year would change him, but nothing has happen yet. Could be it will never happen. Peace I leave you brother.
---Mark_V. on 1/6/12

_Bear, You post falsehood, for I do not grasp at straws but stand upon the Rock of Truth and preach the same. Why do you ask of me questions, if you do not really want to know the answer? If you don't want to know, don't ask.
---Eloy on 1/5/12

Eloy, your grasping at straws to back up your view, that is intellectually dishonest, shame on you, you silly fellow. I am not feeling a wurlwind of convicting waves raging around inside of me leading me to dissect your semi definition of a parable so I will graciously step aside. I don't like making mountains out of mole hills. Our salvation won't hinge on this matter unless you have a revelation from the throne room that would prove otherwise. You have a good day buddy.
In His loving grip
---Poppa_Bear on 1/5/12

A parable is not a fairy tale nor a fable, but instead a parable is a testimony of a true event, indicated by Christ detailing real proper names with real places in his parables. "parable" in Holy Scripture, comes from the Greek words: "para-" + "boule" > Eng: "parallel counsel", "again establish", "retelling".
---Eloy on 1/4/12

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Eloy, Jesus was then a master fairytale creator? His parables were an excepted means to convey truths through varius tails. Here is the concept of sin I'm not sure you understand, He told them without a deceptive motive, but a motive to bring light to the listener, open the door of the kingdom a little more, and the listeners understood that they were not being told lies, or about a specific person, but rather stories which symbolized attitudes, actions and universal truthes. Sin is often a matter of motive, to murder and to kill have different motives for example. As far as for Santa, I let that sleeping dog lye, but there are many tails of valor, honor, bravery and sacrifice that manifest truthes that are good, noble and profitable.
---Poppa_Bear on 1/4/12

a fairy tale is a false story usually told to young children. Examples: santy clauses, easter bunnies, tooth faries, Hercules, genies in bottles, voyages of Sinbad, alice in wonderland, snow white and the seven dwarfs, et cetera and et cetera: all fake, and all lies.
---Eloy on 1/4/12

\\Paul, They are NonChristian parents that teach their children fairy tales.
---Eloy on 1/3/12\\

And then there is youm with yourm trying to tell us that youm have special knowledge of biblical languages when youm can't even handle English properly, as well as being God's mouthpiece

Do youm not tell us fairy tales? Does this not make youm a non-Christian by yourm very words?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/4/12

What is your definition of a Fairytale Eloy? Could a fairy tail be a parable? What is the point behind a fairy tail? Is the story of the three little pigs a story to promote the reality of wolves that blow houses down, wear pants, hats and talk with cheesy New York accents? Or is it a story to illustrate the consequences of being lazy, playing first, working second and being irresponsible?
Things in themselves our seldom bad, it is the way we use them that produces sin and tainted fruit, those who have ears let them hear and all that good stuff. I understand, it is hard to be all knowing all of the time, but keep up the good work.
---Poppa_Bear on 1/3/12

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Paul, They are NonChristian parents that teach their children fairy tales.
---Eloy on 1/3/12

Eloy, I have said the same thing to you to correct you, but you have to get off the Throne of God, you do not belong there. You are human like all of us, not God. You make mistakes like all of us.
You said:
"Was I a sinner for thinking Christ was maltreating me or even allowing me to be maltreated, and for telling him to leave my life"
Yes you were. That is the status of the lost world who are in sin for rejecting Christ. They reject Christ, and believe the lies of satan no different then they. Unbelief is a sin. Anything without faith is sin. Why can you not see something so simple? Is it beccause you believe you cannot err?
---Mark_V. on 1/2/12


If Satan lied to you, and you believed him, and told Jesus to go away (i.e. rejected Christ), is that not sin?

If it IS sin, it manifestly contradicts your assertion that born-again Christians cannot sin.

If it is NOT sin (and it is disturbing to think it is perfectly OK for Christians to reject Christ without sinning), then there would be no reason for you to be born again a second time.

I am not in any way disputing or discounting the validity of your personal experience, only your assertion that it is impossible for born again Christians to sin. Even John himself, who says that Christians are freed from the bondage of sin, makes provisions for what we do if we sin (which presumes that it is possible).
---StrongAxe on 1/1/12

\\Was I a sinner for thinking Christ was maltreating me or even allowing me to be maltreated, and for telling him to leave my life?\\


Youm sinned in exactly the same way Adam and Eve did by giving ear and consent to a lying spirit.

But God will forgive youm if youm repent.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/1/12

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strongax, Again, Satan lied to me telling me that my Christ was maltreating me which proves that he does not really love me, therefore I told the Lord that he must leave me. Was I a sinner for thinking Christ was maltreating me or even allowing me to be maltreated, and for telling him to leave my life? Outside eyes like yours may make all manner of accusation, but Christ knows them whom are his own children, and whom is being abused by the destroyer and whom is not. Eight years later upon my death bed the Holy Spirit instructed me to ask Christ to come back into my life again. And so I did, this was my awesome second birth. Understand this strongax, and receeive this testimony, and do not twist this truth into lie again.
---Eloy on 12/31/11


You said on multiple occasions that you personally have been born again TWICE. To be born again is to go from a fallen state into a holy state. To be been born again a second time, some time between the first time and the second time, you must have fallen away. A person can't stand up twice without falling down inbetween.

You told Jesus to leave because you blamed him for your worldly problems. Is this not faithlessness, and thus sin? Yet you say a born again person cannot sin. So how can someone who is truly born again tell Jesus to leave?

And if it ISN'T sin, why would you need to be born again a second time, if you weren't a sinner?

I am trying hard to understand what you say, but it doesn't make sense.
---StrongAxe on 12/30/11

Eloy, you were born again once, you made a mistake, thought the Lord was destroying you so you told Him to leave, so you lost the spiritual life the Spirit gave you. You reject Christ thinking it was His fault, then you found out you were wrong, so while dying, you ask Him to come back into your heart again, and the Spirit brought you to spiritual life again. Don't you know how silly that sounds? on another post you stated about free will, you said if someone rejects Christ he goes back to be in bondage of sin. Now you say you rejected Christ, but don't want to accept what you just taught on the other blog. That you sinned, and you are not perfect. What has you messed up is your theology on free will. You think you can come and go as you please.
---Mark_V. on 12/31/11

strongax, I never posted that I fell away from Christ, that is your own lie and your own false witness which you continually post: instead, the testimony I posted many times is that I clearly told Jesus my Lord to leave me because I thought that he was the one responsible for all of the destruction happening to me, when in fact it was not my Lord whom was actually destroying my life, but satan the condemned loser. Did you get it this time? or will you twist it again? This is why I ask you not to address me because you oppose the truth I post and twist it into falsehood. When I say Yes, then you say No, and when I say No, then you say Yes...this is foolishness, and I have zero time for such nonsense. Get saved, and get on the same page as I am.
---Eloy on 12/30/11

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Whenever you make a post that makes sense, I gladly receive it. It doesn't happen too often, but it does happen (and I have said so several times). Whenever you make a post that does not make sense, I am DUTY BOUND by my commitment to the truth to either challenge your obvious errors, or to ask you to clarify what you mean (if that is possible).

For example, I asked you several times how you can possibly hold two mututally contradictory beliefs (i.e. that born-again Christians cannot sin, yet you yourself fell away after being born-again), but you have never given me (and more importantly, everyone else on these blogs) an explanation of how this was possible. Yet rather than clarifing this, you always evade the question.
---StrongAxe on 12/29/11

Paul, what I see important is the spirit of Christmas. For it relates to the birth of Christ, and the spirit of giving or sacrificing of ourselves for our children or friends even if it's just for a day. It all relates to Christ and His sacrifice for all mankind. Genuine believers should sacrifice everyday in anyway the can, but the world who is not save, at least has one day they can give of themselves to others. Whether blankets, food, are just gifts they cannot afford. One day does not hurt the world. Everyday should be our goal as Christians. But we can celebrate it with the world even if it's just for a day. If our children learn to give they will some how understand the spirit of giving. Nothing wrong with that.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/11

Interesting "a christ" is merged with a fictional figure that parents teach is real ...then delusional parents insist all "other" fictional figures are really not real? ...contrast is GLARING when understood from the perspective of Holy Scripture however MOST do not follow Christ or care what the Father in Heaven inspired the Apostles to record which is you CANNOT take an evil thing and make it good - NEVER ...yet false christianity INSISTS they can!!! and woe to those who point out GODS TRUTH to them

loose christians who do their own thing APART from Christ ....believe them and the evil they embrace

or believe GOD and HIS Word teaching children lies are a sin and Santa Claus is antichrist
---Rhonda on 12/28/11

strongax, you are still disrespecting my request. When you are ready to receive my postings, then personally address me.
---Eloy on 12/28/11

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Whenever you post ANYTHING to a public forum, you address everyone in that forum, whether they wish it or not. This carries implicit permission for them to reply. Otherwise, you force them to listen to your side of a one-sided conversation, while simultaneously forbidding them from challenging your own statements which may be incorrect.

If an atheist in the public square said "God is dead", would you decline to refute him because he asked you not to speak? If not, The Golden Rule demands you not make similar demands of others.

Regardless of whether Santa is satanic or not, the fact that their spellings are related by being anagrams of each other is a matter of linguistic amusement, not fundamental truth.
---StrongAxe on 12/28/11

straongax, I politely asked you to not address me until you are ready to receive my preaching. My illustration in pointing out that the fake "santa" was made by "Satan", is from the wisdom that any idol at all that is created in order to take ones eyes off of Christ Jesus and put them onto the idol to replace Christ, especially during his birthday on earth, is antiChrist. If you cannot understand this very simple truth, then you are very far off from the kingdom of heaven. I strongly suggest that you get saved so that you can begin to enjoy the fruits of righteousness and of glory.
---Eloy on 12/28/11


She left out a letter and added another in different places. Not likely a misspelling.


"The Chosen" is a film about two Jewish boys in 1940s Brooklyn. One tells a story from the Talmud. In Hebrew, "melech" (MLK) means "king" and "lemech" (LMK) means "fool". Also "moach" (starting with M) means "intellect", while "lev" (starting with L) means "heart". So if you put your head before your heart, you are a king, and if you put your heart before your head, you are a fool.

Letter order is vital in Hebrew and English. Changing it competely changes the meaning of a word. Lion/loin, came/mace, lemon/melon, dear/read, etc.
---StrongAxe on 12/27/11

If you move the third letter "n" in the word "santa" to the end of the word, you will see the maker of that antiChrist: santa F satan
---Eloy on 12/27/11

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To humor the child. But it is best to teach the child the truth of Christ, rather than the lie of santa. If I had children they would be taught Truth, and that there is no such thing as santa, easter bunnies, nor tooth fairies.
---Eloy on 12/26/11

Strongax, look at Karen's post again. She just misspelled/left a letter out. She was saying "Santa." That's all.
---Elder on 12/26/11


What do you mean, "saints aren't real"? Whether or not you happen to believe that dead saints have supernatural powers or not, the fact remains that they were all once flesh and blood human beings, just as you and I are - not works of fiction.
---StrongAxe on 12/22/11

KarenD: St. Nicholas probably would have knelt at the manger, if there were one in his time. Santa Claus is based on a real person who served the Lord.
---Trish on 12/21/11

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This blog reminds me of my old favorite Christmas decoration (unfortunately I lost it) of Santa kneeling at the manger, sooo cool! It didn't knock Santa, just put him in his place. :)
---Mary on 12/20/11

Although it may be a "cool" picture to look at, Santa's place is with all other lies. Since Sants is not real he can't possibly kneel at the foot of the manger. Just another commercialized lie.
---KarenD on 12/21/11

Let me ask a question. Do you correct your children when they play with their imaginary friends? Do you tell your little girl that there is no possible way her little doll really loves her because she's plastic and not alive? Do your kids watch any TV other than documentaries that are based on true, factual events?

I do not lie to my children and I would never expect them to actually believe in Santa. They know their presents are from us. But I'm not going to forbid them from participating in Santa themed games simply because he doesn't really exist.
---Jed on 12/21/11

Myths are not lies, they are myths. A lie is meant to deceive, a myth is meant to illustrate.
---John.usa on 12/21/11

If parents lie to their children about Santa. My question is, How can you associate a lie with such an important event?
Isn't Satan the devil known as the father of the lie?
---Paul on 12/21/11

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I all has to do with a childhood view of practical economics aka expectation and outcome.

As long as a child professes to bereaving in Santa Clause he has a high probability of getting toys for Christmas.

When a child gives up bereaving in Santa Clause his odd of toys decrease in favor of practical clothing.

So which is more fun for a boy under a Christmas package of tidy whites and a dozen sox or the latest electronic game toy.

It is all about child's view of practical economics!!!
---Blogger9211 on 12/20/11

It didn't effect my faith in God at all as a child. I was raised Catholic, believed in Jesus and Santa Clause for two different reasons and purposes.

Jesus died for my sins, Santa didn't.

Santa brought presents, and God gives HIS Presence, 'THere's Joy in the Presence of the Lord."

From a young age I believe in Santa and it didn't effect or erase my belief in Jesus and God and the Holy Spirit.
---anon on 12/20/11

This blog reminds me of my old favorite Christmas decoration (unfortunately I lost it) of Santa kneeling at the manger, sooo cool! It didn't knock Santa, just put him in his place. :)
---Mary on 12/20/11

My parents never taught me about Santa Claus. I heard about it as a child, asked my parents about it, and they never affirmed it.

Praise God for my Christian parents.
---old-school_Saint on 12/19/11

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I don't know why. Why don't you ask those who do?

I think it's best to tell children that Santa Claus is a game we play at this time of year, and to tell them about the REAL Saint Nicholas the wonderworker and champion of the truth of the fully divine nature of Christ at the Council of Nicea.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 12/19/11

Because they are more concerned with myths than the truth. They would rather tell their children lies and make the world happy than to teach them about Jesus and make God happy.
---KarenD on 12/19/11

First of all, you spelled their wrong.

Fantasy is something that children love, and need. Many parents loved believing in Santa Claus, and they love to nurture that fantasy in their little ones.

I taught my children that Santa was a fun story character, like Mickey Mouse and Big Bird.

I chose not to feed my children the lie about Santa because we were very poor when they were little, and I could not buy the expensive Christmas presents like their friends' parents bought them.
---Trish on 12/19/11

Paul, Cluny could probably fill you in on the "Saint Nicholas" of old that began the tradition....he's good at that!
---1st_cliff on 12/19/11

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Because it is fun for little kids to believe in Santa. :)
---John.usa on 12/19/11

because it is fun and it teachs about giving. Similiar to Jesus who gave the greatest gift of all. Santa is like Jesus NOT vice versa.
---Scott1 on 12/20/11

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