Elena, I agree. Thank you for sharing.
---Jed on 10/1/12|
Thankyou, this is a good blog.I was with my grandma n she was a beautifull Soul,she maybe spank me one time,but had a way with words, she made me think about my actions,she could get a room of people fighting n with her lovable kind voice, she could still.stop a crowd of people. My mother she beat with whatever! I think she meant well,but too angry all the time, so,I did not pay much mind to her.She never said she love me and I love her,later found out not long ago,she wasn't my real mother.She was very cruel at times.She was a hard disciplinerean,but I never talk much to her.I just think we have to also,besides discipline. You have to show children they can trust you and not go to wrong type people.
---ELENA on 9/29/12|
I would have probably been better off if I would have had a few more lickens when I was a kid. My mothers version of love allowed me to become a little devil as a kid. She didnt want me to hate her for spanking me so she didnt, she cared about her feelings more than my upbringing in some ways. Crazy to find children who dont receive spankings as a form of discipline showing the most disrespect to their own parents and then those same parents will be more outraged over people spanking their own kids, than their childrens blatant disrespect to all those around them. Spanking is a tool, the bible condones it and so do the laws in my state so I use it.
---Poppa_Bear on 12/27/11|
Christian, okay, back to square one. You go ahead and beat your children. We'll just wait and see how they turn out.
---John.usa on 12/27/11|
John.usa, what on earth are you saying? I quoted earlier in my reply to this blog that God has instructed His people in Proverbs 13:24 & 23:13,14 that we must use the rod when a child is in disobedience of his/her parents.
Is Solomon than dead wrong because he penned those instructions according to your "infinite wisdom"? It's you who's questioning the instructions of God, right?
---christan on 12/27/11|
Irrespective of the previous effectiveness of parental corporeal punishment if is done in many states is greater threat to the applier then the child. If a professional Educator, Social Worker or Medical staffs suspect it has occurred they are legally obligated to report it to child welfare authorizes. Children can be removed from homes pending investigation not just one child but all children in the home. One or both Parents/Guardians may be charged with a myriad of criminal offensives. Not only are the expensive and hard to defend against, a criminal conviction can often be a carrier ending event.
When there are so many alternatives to corporal punishment it is better to use them and not destroy the integrity of the family unit.
---Blogger9211 on 12/26/11|
Christian, I said the Bible is dead wrong if it teaches that children should be beaten with rods. You said it doesn't teach that. So don't find fault with what I said. Think before you respond. Thank you.
---John.usa on 12/27/11|
I'm not against spanking but I believe it should be used sparingly for repeated disobedience. And having your child pull their pants down to be spanked is abuse. Inflicting painful punishment on someone naked is degrading and humiliating. Discipline is never degrading. You need to respect your children if you want them to respect you and remember they don't belong to you, they belong to God. And it is his child you are spanking. So if you do it, it better be the right and loving way.
---Jed on 12/26/11|
"'For whom the LORD loves He chastens,
. And scourges every son whom He receives.'"
. . . . . . (in Hebrews 12:6)
"Now no chastening seems to be joyful for the present, but painful, nevertheless, afterward it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained by it." (Hebrews 12:11)
There is pain in God's correction. But a selfish pain reaction does not change us into how His love makes us pleasing and obedient to Him (2 Corinthians 7:10). So, it is not enough for pain to just stop wrong behavior. Pain can make us sorry we got caught, and hitting can teach a child to hit someone who doesn't do what the child wants.
---Bill_willa6989 on 12/23/11|
" If the Bible says it's okay to beat children with rods, then the Bible is dead wrong, like it or not." John.usa
Firstly, the Bible does not say "it's okay to beat children with rods" as and when you like. It's clear that it points to disciplining the child and unless your child is born an angel - which is unlikely according to God's Word, that's why He gave us instructions to deal with our children when the time comes.
"the Bible is dead wrong, like it or not". And whether you like it or not, you are accusing God to be liar since you do not belief in His instructions. You only have to go back to Genesis 2 and remember what Adam and Eve did when God gave him specific instructions.
---christan on 12/23/11|
I'm a dad who spanks his two boy's bare bottom only with my open hand.I don't want too!I must set limits,and rules for both boy's live by.
---John_Hamilton on 12/23/11|
make sure the child knows what is really right, and your example is right > "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)
And with this will come the discipline that is right. Arguing and complaining also are abusive, potentially damaging your children so they do not know how to love. This can be much more damaging, I consider.
However, God is able to correct us and heal children. So, have hope. Make sure the example is right. We are reaping emotionally according to what we really have been sowing, no matter how we smart-talk ourselves that we are right.
---Bill_willa6989 on 12/23/11|
Striking anyone, child or adult, except in self-defense, is abusive in any situation. If the Bible says it's okay to beat children with rods, then the Bible is dead wrong, like it or not.
---John.usa on 12/22/11|
Disciplining a child in a Godly manner is not a matter of "line drawn" but whether you believe in God's command. God instructions to parents with children who rebel and are disobedient are very clear,
"He that spareth his rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him chasteneth him betimes." Proverbs 13:24
"Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell." Proverbs 23:13,14
Pray and ask the Father for wisdom when you are about to discipline your child.
---christan on 12/22/11|
Most of the difference is the attitude of the person doing the spanking. If the person doing the spanking is doing it in fit of rage or loss of temper, it's child abuse because the spanker is losing control of themselves. What it boils down to is the spanker is just relising "steam", and is not really concerned about the person being spanked. If's the spanking is for disciple purposes, the spanker will explain to the one being spanked why the need for a spanking. Spanking should be used only as a means of last resort, and done with much explanation as to "why".
---wivv on 12/22/11|