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I was awaken by the Spirit in the middle of the night who spoke of the lack of unity among the people of blogs. And I couldn't sleep until I posted this blog. If you all claim to be christian, then why is there such disunity?

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markv, sometimes i believe that you would argue directly with God about scripture. of course, satan's lordship of this world is temporal. that is milk. nevertheless, he is god of this world right now, but that does not mean that he is my God. he was, but not now, and i still live on earth.
---aka on 2/5/12


Michael e, when Jesus said,
"My kingdom is not of this world" Jesus meant that His kingdom is not connected to earthly political and national entities, nor does it have its origin in the evil world system that is in rebellion against God. If His kingdom was of this world He would have fought. The kingships of this world preserve themselves by fighting with force. What Jesus is doing is establishing His kingdom by bringing the elect to Christ who are in the world.
Satan is the prince of the power of the air and he has the lost blind. God Almighty is the God of all things. Satan is but an instrument of God. God yields to no one. For there is only One God who rules from the Throne.
---Mark_V. on 2/5/12


Aka, I know what the word of God says, but it is not talking about the real God of the world, if he was then he would be our God and he is not. He might be the god of the lost, but not of us. And we all live in this world. This passage is not saying He rules the world as God does, but he is the false god the lost world is in bondage to. We are believers are in bondage to the real Almighty God of everything. There is a big difference.
---MarkV. on 2/5/12


Markv I see you are still going to take your thoughts over scripture. You may believe in God but apparently you don't believe God.
(John 18:36 Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world:)
//You live in this world//
But, Paul says our manner of living is now in heaven.
So you think unbelievers serve God? interesting.
---michael_e on 2/5/12


markv...you are arguing against scripture. satan is called "god of this world" in scripture. we, called to Christ, may live IN this world but we are not OF this world. therefore, Satan is not our god.
---aka on 2/5/12




Michael e, I see that nothing is going to satisfy you again. Go ahead and make him god of this world. But you are wrong again, only you don't realize it. You live in this world, he must be your god. For if he is god of this world, he is the god of everyone. I know he is not my God. And never will be.
---Mark_V. on 2/5/12


Similar titles. The "prince of the power of the air" in Eph 2:2. The "prince of this world" John 12:31. These titles, signify his capabilities. Satan, the "prince of the power of the air" signifies he rules over the unbelieving world. God, allows Satan to operate in this world(within boundaries) God has given him domain over unbelievers. Unbelievers, are caught in the snare of the devil"(2 Tim. 2:26)and are in bondage to Satan (Eph. 2:2).
Satan rules the unbelieving world in a specific way. 2 Cor. 4:4, the unbeliever follows Satan's agenda. the "god of this world has blinded the minds of unbelievers".. Satan's pushes false philosophy blinding unbelievers from the truth of Paul's Gospel.
---michael_e on 2/4/12


Michael e 2:
Though God is on the Throne, He rules over all things. For He is also Spirit and is Omnipresent, everywhere at all times. "There are many devices in a man's heart, nevertheless the counsel of the Lord, that shall stand" (prov. 19:21). "Known unto God are all His works" (Acts 15:18). "But He is of one Mind, and who can turn Him? and what His soul desireth, even that He doeth" (Job 23:13). Both man and beast would parish if not for God.
"He 'upholdeth all things by the word of His power" (Heb. 1:3) Truly He "holdeth our soul in life" (Psa. 66:9).
---Mark_V. on 2/4/12


Rhonda, I tell you that the reasoning I used ....I know the passage does not mean what is written
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WOW OH WOW the new-age "mark truth"??

YOU PERSONALLY know a passage does not mean what is written??

DANGER of evil men who REASON AWAY the VERY WORDS of GOD!!! twisting perverting and leading MANY away from GODS WORD to their personal reasoning about Gods Word rejecting Gods Holy Word to serve their own agenda

MAY GOD have mercy on those you influence with YOUR lying reasoning ABOUT Holy Scripture and may GOD open their eyes to HIS HOLY WORD and truth FOUND only in Holy Scripture - HIS WORDS MEAN what they say AMEN
---Rhonda on 2/4/12


Michael e, what I'm doing is teaching that instead of beginning with man and his world and working back to God, we must begin with God, and work down to men. "In the beginning God" using this principle. To say that God is sovereign is to declare that God is God. To say that God is sovereign is to declare that He is the Most High, doing" according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, so that none can stay His hand or say to Him what doest Thou?" (Dan. 4:35). Ruler.
To say He is sovereign is to declare that He is the Almighty, the possessor of all power in heaven and earth, for our "God is in heaven, He does whatsoever He pleases" (Ps. 115:3).
---Mark_V. on 2/4/12




//God did not turn over to satan His Throne.There is only One on the Throne //
Markv I have noticed you are always "trying" to teach somebody, where you are right and they are wrong. Remember, my friend, God is "on the throne in heaven" not on earth. If you can show scripture where His throne is now set up on earth, I would love to see it. Until then I'll have to go by what I read in scripture and not by what you think.
//I know the passage does not mean what is written.// Realy Mark??
---michael_e on 2/3/12


Michael e, I could not teach you on the other blog but on this one, you are again wrong. There is only One God, He is infinite. He created all things. satan is a created being, and he is but an instrument of Almighty God. The only powers he has are those God has given him, and God did not turn over to satan His Throne. There is only One on the Throne, God Almighty. Get is right.
---Mark_V. on 2/3/12


And what kind of disunity is there? Arguing? Disagreements? The Truth is the Truth. And, it seems there needs to be more willingness to humble ourselves before the LORD to seek the TRUTH of things. Because, the time is VERY SHORT. And, the souls of mankind truly are at stake. Let's know the Truth. And, that Truth shall set us free. Let us fear the LORD. The Fear of the LORD is the beginning of Knowledge and of Wisdom and of Understanding the things of GOD.
---Gordon on 2/3/12


Now Satan has infiltrated the word of God through all English translations except one. Why wouldnt he since he is still temporarily the god of this world. But God the creator promised his Word would never be changed, so we can only teach, without disunity, from the only source that the blood of Christ has not been removed from and changed.
---michael_e on 2/3/12


Peter, thank you for your explanation, you are right. God Almighty is God of heaven and earth. That never changes. The writers of Scripture, those who revised it, made alot of errors but not on purpose. Words that were change from Hebrew or Greek sometimes sounded different or the same. What everyone who studies should do is to first find all the passages that talk about God, who He is, His character, His attributes, learn them and keep them because He never changes. Then when a student of the Bible studies other passages, they have to be sure they do not compromise who God is. If they do, they have them wrong and need to find out the correct meaning.
---Mark_V. on 2/3/12


Rhonda: Satan has some powers on earth. BUT those are the powers that God has allowed satan to have, not powers that satan automatically has.

At least, that's the best way I can understand it
---Peter on 2/2/12


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//why is there such disunity?//

//I know the passage does not mean what is written.// ???

It's plain why there is disunity
---michael_e on 1/30/12


Rhonda, I tell you that the reasoning I used is because I know who the God of heaven and "earth" is, and that is God Almighty. And I know if a passage contradicts the Nature, Character and Attributes of God, I know the passage does not mean what is written. No passage can go against who God was, is and always will be. For He never changes. Next time you find a passage that contradicts who God is, it is your job, if you care at all, to find the true meaning of the passage. Your responsibility.
---Mark_V. on 1/30/12


not at all Mark I have no "interpretation" of 2Corin 4:4

however YOU DO!!

just look at all the reasoning YOU used to DISMISS REJECT AND IGNORE the very WORDS of GOD in 2Corin 4:4 which STATE Satan is the god of this world

I simply BELIEVE what is written YOU have reasoning to REJECT 2Corin 4:4 with YOUR interpretation and you cannot even see it

sadly you do not even comprehend the omnipresence of GOD is not the same as GODS throne mixing the two as one in the same

if Satan is not the god of this world then do you PRETEND the immorality corruption murders do not happen? How does that work? seeing when Christ RETURNS to claim his inheritance as ruler on earth from Jerusalem HE will bring peace
---Rhonda on 1/29/12


Rhonda, your interpretation of (2 Cor. 4:4) is wrong. His not only in heaven, He is Omnipresent, everywhere. Satan is not.
But God,
"He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and the inhabitants of the earth, and none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35). This is the real God.
"...whose minds the god of this world has blinded, who do not believe, lest the gospel of the glory of Christ who is the image of God, should shine on them"

It is talking about the worlds philosophies. Satan is a false god, of the current mind set expressed by the ideals, opinions, hopes, of the majority of people, he is not God of this world, but a false god. There is only one Sovereign God.
---Mark_V. on 1/29/12


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Rhonda:
Please understand, I have no inclination nor intent to argue with you or to characterize your position.

However, you know that the word, "world" is used in different ways in the Bible. For example, John3:16 "For God so love the World..." John7:7 "The world cannot hate you ..." Matthew 13:22, "The cares of the world..."
Moreover, in the following texts, God declares that the world is His. Psalms 50:12 "The world is mine..." 1 Cor. 10:26. The earth is the Lord's. Psalms 24:1 The earth is the Lords, the world and they that dwell therein and Deuteronomy 10:14 among others.

Perhaps, you could take another look at these text.
---Allan on 1/29/12


Rhonda, you are absolutely right on.
//Your post just continues to reject GODS truth given in 2Corin 4:4 that states Satan is the god of this world
GODS throne is in heaven now not earth because Christ HAS NOT returned YET//
The verse says satan is the god of this world, with a small "g"
---michael_e on 1/28/12


Because god is a figment of your imaginations, and human beings have very good imaginations.
---atheist on 1/28/12


You have the wrong god on the Throne
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Mark I BELIEVE EVERY WORD from God as True Believers are instructed do Luke 4:4 not pointless explanations from those who would REJECT 2Corin 4:4 that STATES Satan is the god of this world

as I explained previously twisting perverting or rejecting 2Corin 4:4 does not make your LIE truth

THIS world filled with hate violence immorality hundreds of thousands of murders daily and other EVIL things NOT FROM GOD belongs to Satan NOT Christ the Prince of Peace

Your post just continues to reject GODS truth given in 2Corin 4:4 that states Satan is the god of this world

GODS throne is in heaven now not earth because Christ HAS NOT returned YET
---Rhonda on 1/28/12


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Rhonda, let me explain something to you, All believers should be God-Center. God is the whole purpose for our existence. He is God of heaven and earth. Nothing ever changes that.
But you take a passage and state His Godship is really false, that satan is the God of this world. Now either God is God or satan is God. And I know you are wrong. God's nature, Character and attributes never change. You have the wrong god on the Throne. I do not reject 2 Cor. 4:4) is not a lie, but your interpretation of it is a lie. Satan is no god at all, but a created angel, who is one of the instruments of God who is Almighty. Anything he does is because either God permits him or allows him to do. God is God. So dick further, and find the right interpretation.
---Mark_V. on 1/28/12


I would imagine that the disunity comes from the fact that not everyone using this website is from the same denomination. People seem to be able to fall out with each other over whether baptism should be by total immersion or otherwise so they are certainly going to be quite vocal on other issues as well. In addition, there will be people here who follow certain televangelists, all of whom differ in some ways. People who follow these preachers become quite indoctrinated sometimes and will not listen to anything other than what 'so and so' says. If they hear a slightly different take on scripure they shout from the rooftops that it is wrong instead of discussing in love and trying to understand why there are differences.
---Rita_H on 1/27/12


When we read the NT, there are a number of times where the writers write about discord within the church.

The same is occurring here, and here the people accused (who may be wrong, or may be right) have no way to defend themselves.

In that way, this internet site allows much worse accusations to be made than was possible in the old church
---Peter on 1/27/12


Because not all whom claim that they are Christian, are really Christians. Jesus says: "You all will know them by their fruits. Do people gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? Even so every good tree brings forward good fruit, but a corrupt tree brings forward bad fruit. A good tree cannot bring forward bad fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forward good fruit. Every tree that brings not forward good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits you all will know them."
---Eloy on 1/27/12


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Rhonda thinks that God turned over the whole earth to the enemy.
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Holy Scripture states that Satan is the god of this world YOU simply deny this FACT given in 2Corin 4:4

so what YOU are saying then is 2Corin 4:4 is a LIE and YOUR misunderstanding is the truth you want people to believe

in essence what YOU SHARE has MORE weight than Holy Scripture

I choose to believe 2Corin 4:4 which STATES Satan IS the God of this world

if YOU choose to believe 2Corin 4:4 is a LIE and reasons away 2Corin 4:4 by using OTHER Holy Scriptures that have nothing to do with Satan as god of this world to dodge the plain truth about 2Corin 4:4 then you have served your own purpose in continuing to REJECT Gods Holy Word
---Rhonda on 1/27/12


Allan, thanks for the Truth. Rhonda thinks that God turned over the whole earth to the enemy. That somehow God stepped down from His Throne and allowed satan to seat on it to rule the world. And just because she read one passage out of context. I suppose God will be off His throne until satan allows Him back on since satan is god now.
That's why we are told,
"the carnal mind is enmity against God" (Rom. 8:7).
But God says, " he doesth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, and none (nobody) can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35).
The Truth is: "For of Him, and through Him, and to Him, are all things, to whom be glory forever, Amen" (Rom. 11:36).
---Mark_V. on 1/27/12


This is God's world. He has created it. And He has not given it to satan and no one has been given the authority to transfer title to the devil
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your idea is unsupported by Holy Scripture which states the god of this world is Satan 2Corin 4:4

as to "transferring title" that WILL HAPPEN when Christ returns when HE will rule as King of Kings from Jerusalem and take back this world to establish Gods Kingdom on earth

until then the world belongs to Satan
---Rhonda on 1/24/12


This is God's world. He has created it. And He has not given it to satan and no one has been given the authority to transfer title to the devil.

Satan is the ruler (god) of the systems of world. The systems under which most people function.

That would be all of the political systems, to include democracy and all of the economic systems, to include capitalism and all other isms. Moreover, all of the military systems are also under the control of the evil one. And I venture to say that religious system are similarly controlled.
---Allan on 1/14/12


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And what government would Christ established in this world? A Democrat or maybe a Republican?
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You quote two irrelevant verses and believe these CONTRADICT more than 100 verses in both OT and NT about Gods Kingdom on earth TO COME aka it ain't here yet or do you believe this evil filled world with all its immorality wars and rage filled anger is a Christ reigning with "peace"??? Do you understand what peace is?

you DO UNDERSTAND Satan is the god of this world now 2Corin 4:4 and Christ has NOT returned?

the verses you chose demonstrate your misunderstanding of Gods Kingdom on EARTH which is why you foolishly responded as you did ...however it will not be mans republican or mans democratic partys
---Rhonda on 1/9/12


disunity?

do you want me to agree with WHATEVER PAT ROBERTSON IS SAYING?
christ DID not agree with the pharisees, experts in the law.
as a matter of fact, he rebuked the pharisees & told them that they are stumbling people & they love their money & position.
---mike on 1/9/12


//Mark Eaton hit it on the head in an earlier. PRIDE

And it is often pride in the teachings of some denominations.

For instance, Adventists like Francis, & Jerry simply refuse to believe the scripture that says love of neighbor fulfills the law (Romans 13, Galatians 5) preferring instead to continue to defend their view that Christians must observe laws found only within the Old Covenant such as the obsevance of the Jewish Sababth as it is the cornerstone of their religion.
---lee1538 on 1/9/12


Mark Eaton hit it on the head in an earlier. PRIDE
Apostle Paul stated "Knowledge puffs one up."
The tendency for those who have advanced knowledge in all areas of life (Christian or not) is to assume a position of pride in their display of that knowledge. This is why Paul wrote to CHRISTIANS in 1 Cor13, "If I knew ALL mysteries of knowledge and yet I still don't have LOVE, I am nothing."
Most bloggers on this site have or think they have advanced knowledge of the scriptures in comparison to the vast amount of Christians.
Starting with ME, let's all be aware of the tendency!
Pride fueled the Pharisees and Saducees rejection of THE TRUTH and THE WAY!
Debate over 2 opinions never needs to be mean spirited.
---Legends on 1/9/12


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"When Christ RETURNS to restore Gods government on earth HE will bring peace until then Satan is the god of this world and deceives many" Rhonda

And what government would Christ established in this world? A Democrat or maybe a Republican?

You make no sense with this statement of yours for Christ Himself declared, "My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence." John 18:36

Peter prophesied in 2 Peter 3:10 that the whole creation will be destroyed when Christ returns. Does this sound like any flesh will survive this Day of the Lord?
---christan on 1/7/12


Lee, to go with ( 1 Cor. 11:19 ) is ( 1 John 2:19).
" They went out from us, but they were not of us, for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us, "but they went out that they might be made manifest," that none were of us"
We witness so many in time leaving Christ. The word use by Jesus is "abide" Jesus said "Abide in Me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit of itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in Me" Abide means to remain. The remaining is evidence that salvation has already taken place ( 1 John 2:19). The fruit or evidence of salvation is continuance in service to Christ and His teachings ( John 8:31).
---Mark_V. on 1/7/12


"god gave man freedom of choice to think what is right." mike

Really? Please show a verse that literally says, "god gave man freedom of choice". I will guarantee you that you are not going to find such a declaration because it's in your own imagination. That's because, God declared,

"That saith of Cyrus, He is My shepherd, and shall perform all My pleasure" Isaiah 44:28

"...the man that executeth My counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass, I have purposed it, I will also do it." Isaiah 46:11

Only God has the free-will to do as He pleases, the man "shall perform all My pleasure", saith the Lord.
---christan on 1/7/12


claiming "christianity" and walking with Christ are polar opposites

many CLAIM they are "christian" yet do not follow Christ and HIS examples

Christ did not come to bring peace on earth HE came as a messenger of Gods Kingdom to COME ...Christ stated HE would come again to destroy the governments of this world MANY which are aligned with religion including christianity ...clearly Christ has not returned YET

When Christ RETURNS to restore Gods government on earth HE will bring peace until then Satan is the god of this world and deceives many

even Christ never claimed their would be "unity" an obvious impossibility with evil present in this world
---Rhonda on 1/7/12


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god gave man freedom of choice to think what is right. but man does not put god first to make the right choices when he does. there man makes a man choice in turn to who is right!
---mike on 1/7/12


One should understand that the church is much like a family in that there is disagreement between members.

The only problem we have is that on issues that are essentials, there should at least be a general agreement. But when certain groups teach that peripheral issues such as what we should or should not eat, or what day we gather for worship, then there has to be division.

1 Cor. 11:19 for there must be factions among you in order that those who are genuine among you may be recognized.
---lee1538 on 1/6/12


markv, there are many who use the name Jesus who are not true believers. it comes down to application not just annunciation.

yes, the body of christ is in tact.
---aka on 1/5/12


Luke 12:51-53 Do you think that I have come to give peace on earth? No, I tell you, but rather division. For from now on in one house there will be five divided, three against two and two against three. They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.

How important is our relationship to Christ in comparison to others?

Sometimes the truth thrown in our face is the only thing that will awake us up.

Consider the Muslim, or Jew, or Jehovah's Witness, etc. that accepts the Lordship of Christ over that of his denomination. What price may be paid?
---lee1538 on 1/5/12


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I think Christianity will always be with us. I think though Churches of dis-unity, who make no allowance for others of the same faith will fade away. Those that accept each others differences yet find areas of common purpose will survive.
---chris on 1/5/12


Aka, I had to look up "microcosm" understand what you are saying. I agree, when something is said to many "example" "12" not everyone is going to grasp the same message. In the case of the visible Church, those who believe will receive something different then those who don't. The passages you gave in (Luke 7:43). There was division among the people. The same holds true in a denomination church or any church. Jesus told us there was tares mixed with wheat in the Church. Some who have committed and some who have not. The same holds true for all churches. As long as we have unbelievers in churches we will always have that mix. The spiritual Church of Christ is not divided. They are one organism, the body of Christ.
---Mark_V. on 1/5/12


I would tend to agree with most of that Earl. It is not just the number of denominations,as you can see here. Its the intense rivalry that I have seen on here between churches. That must fill many with consternation, indeed alarm.
I never knew the American church was so divided and tormented. I don't really know what other word to use.
---chris on 1/5/12


//Essentiality christianity is a house divided against itself .The verbage -christianity- will not endure for a great length of time because of disunity.//
---earl on 1/4/12

John 7:43

Luke 12:51-53

even if they read from the book, it would not matter. even though jesus' words were spoken in a microcosm (12 tribes), the implications are clear to the macrocosm (christianity).

there is no such thing such as "christianity" to the Christ. there is only pure Christ Jesus without man's many different takes.

is division so perplexing given His Word? isn't it written? isn't it a good thing that the prophet prophecies truth?
---aka on 1/5/12


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Because sometimes we cannot agree to disagree on small issues. The way I read the Bible is different than the way you read the Bible and for the most part that is ok because of the Holy Spirit and God's plan for your life. Not every disagreement is sin or a wrong viewpoint. We tend to think that we have to defend the gospel but we don't. Thats is what makes Christianity great is our same God but different values, ways, mission.
---Scott1 on 1/5/12


The baggage that christianity has is that it pushes uniformity and such uniformity by christian authority figures flows down stream.
Unity is when denominations throw out their denominational church sign describing who they specifically are compared to others down the street.
Confuse the audience and potential enlistments into shying away from the kingdom by presenting too many choices-denominations.
Those in authority and teachers do not teach a standard yet everyone reads from the same book.
Essentiality christianity is a house divided against itself .The verbage -christianity- will not endure for a great length of time because of disunity.
---earl on 1/4/12


AKA, I agree very much with what you said. Anyone who does not believe the whole of Scripture might as well just leave Christianity as those spoken of in (1 John 2:19). "The went out from us, but they were not of us, for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us, but they went out that they might be made manifest, that none of them were of us"
Anyone who will not believe that Paul was inspired has to be blind, for not only was he thrown from his horse by the Lord Himself, but was convicted and blinded by the Lord. And then given a commission, I did't see many others go through what he did. I really don't know what Bible Cliff is reading.
---Mark_V. on 1/4/12


//Maybe Barb quotes Paul for the same reason I do! ...
No doubt he was a brilliant writer, but "inspired?" Who had the authority to say so?
Committee?//
---1st_cliff on 1/2/12 cliff

cliff, so, according to you some of the bible is inspired and and some is just brilliant writing.

Who had the authority to say so? Committee or some Society, per se?

i believe that you and barb quote paul (out of context) for the exact same reasons.
---aka on 1/2/12


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aka, Maybe Barb quotes Paul for the same reason I do! Not that i follow him but the Evangelicals and fundamentalists do!
They cite WT publications to JWs, EG White to SDAs,etc..
No doubt he was a brilliant writer, but "inspired?" Who had the authority to say so?
Committee?
---1st_cliff on 1/2/12


Chris thank you its very nice of you to say so. I must say you shared some very good wisdom yourself. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 1/2/12


Very good words Darlene.
I believe that a lot of faith is personal. In other words what you formulate from what you read and what you pray.
When you go to the beyond it is you that will be judged not the doctrine you follow.
Discussion can be healthy, condemnation is not.
God will know what is in your heart.
Be gentle with each other, in you reasoning and thought. Jesus came as a teacher to all who would listen.
Views will differ, surely all we can say is 'I believe this..' or 'The Bible has shown me this..'
If we judge another are we not saying we are God?
---chris on 1/2/12


//God will lead you to those who follow only the teachings of His Son and there you will find the unity that Jesus prayed for in John 17 20-26.//

1Co 3:4-1Co 3:11 For no one can lay a foundation other than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Barb, i don't know if you realize it, but you have quoting Paul lately.
---aka on 1/2/12


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//If you all claim to be christian, then why is there such disunity?//
simple
2 Tim 2:15
---michael_e on 1/1/12


Barb, excellent point. Thank you.
---John.usa on 1/1/12


There is disunity because people think they have to correct others to believe what their denomination teaches,they believe only they are right,and don't trust God to teach his children what they need to know. There will always be disunity if people try to run God's business instead of praying for and loving others regardless of their denominational beliefs. 1 Timothy 6:3 If anyone teaches false doctrines and does not agree to the sound instruction of our Lord Jesus Christ and to Godly teaching,he is conceited and understands nothing. He has an unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words--.
---Darlene_1 on 12/31/11


Because some follow Paul, some follow EGW, some follow Joseph Smith etc. etc. If you look and pray hard enough and really want to know the answer to your question God will lead you to those who follow only the teachings of His Son and there you will find the unity that Jesus prayed for in John 17 20-26.
---barb on 12/31/11


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I have enjoyed singing Kumbaya actually. :)
---John.usa on 12/31/11


Maybe the Spirit (of God?) was trying to tell you that there are tares among the wheat and the former will never come into the truth.
---lee1538 on 12/29/11


//Steven, speaking with respect to you as a person, do you not think that maybe the Spirit was convicting you for the lack of unity you show when you answer demeaning answers against the gathering of believers?//

i think this is a valid point.
---aka on 12/29/11


"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it." John 8:44

So, I guess Jesus Christ was not "respectful and kind" when He spoke those words to the Pharisees and Jews. And what one would perceive to see as "sound doctrine when it is presented to them", the apostle John admonishes God's people,

"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world." 1 John 4:1
---christan on 12/29/11


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we do not decide if we are christians, only christ does. most are members of a denomination....few are members of the one body.



scripture does not say to join hands and sing kumbaya.

Eph_6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Eph 6:13 Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm.
---aka on 12/29/11


Steven, there are many on these blogs who claim to be Christian, but the truth is they are not, 2 Corinthians 11:13-15, and 2 Peter Chapter Two.

Those who are TRUE CHRISTIANS study, 2 Timothy 2:14-19, they place their TRUST and FAITH in CHRIST, AND CHRIST ALONE. Christians don't place their TRUST and FAITH in those who do what is written in Romans 1:25.
---Rob on 12/29/11


There are both Christians and NonChristians which post on this website, and there is zero unity between the Chistian and the antiChristian, just as there is zero fellowship with the holy and the unholy: "Blessed the person whom goes not forward to the counsel of the wicked, nor stands after the way of sinners, nor sits in the seat of mockers." Ps.1:1
---Eloy on 12/30/11


We can all start anytime to treat everyone here with kindness and respect. :)
---John.usa on 12/29/11


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StevenG....Why is it that when "the Spirit" wakes someone in the middle of the night to tell them something, that person doesn't realize that "the Spirit" is speaking to them personally? By the way, which spirit would be "the Spirit" that woke you?
---KarenD on 12/29/11


\\One word, pride.\\

How true.

So many people here reject sound doctrine when it is presented to them.

Christ is born! Glorify Him!
---Cluny on 12/29/11


One word, pride.

It is manifested in these blogs as well as in our personal life. It comes out as selfishness, arrogance, and dishonesty. Our need to see others at fault is but a symptom. We judge others and do not accept correction from others. We have become unteachable to God.

I applaud you for being honest in confessing that the Holy Spirit is working in you. We all need to confess our pride to God and be committed to unity and peace among the brethren.
---Mark_Eaton on 12/29/11


is it not obvious? their are those who are Christian,and those who claim they are Christian,we know us by our fruit :D
---kevin5443 on 12/29/11


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It's a healthy sign to disagree as long as you don't become disagreeable. There are important statements in the Bible that you can't disagree on, such as the method of salvation in Christ. One of the major problems is some Christians confuse cultural mores with Biblical teaching. There may not be anything wrong with cultural mores, but to confuse them with what the Bible states is the cause of many problems in the Christian community.
---wivv on 12/29/11


Steven, speaking with respect to you as a person, do you not think that maybe the Spirit was convicting you for the lack of unity you show when you answer demeaning answers against the gathering of believers? The Church of Christ was bought with the highest price. As bishops as the flock, we should take heed unto ourselves to feed the Church of the Lord which He purchased with His own blood, (Acts 20:28). The bishops (us) are entrusted with that which cost God the death of His own Son. The combine force of the words "agoraso", exagorazo and peripoieo, is that of (1) purchase, (2) of being bought off the market, not subject to resale, (3) and of possession regarded as precious in the sight of God.
Something to think about.
---Mark_V. on 12/29/11


God knows them that Are His & Are called by His name. Jesus Christ Is His Name.
For what communion has Light ( The Church of The Living God ) with darkness ? - Rev.17 v's 4 - 6, None.
For what fellowship has the Righteous ( The Church of The Living God ) with the unrighteous ? - Rev.17 v's 4 - 6, None.
---Lawrence_Nemeth on 12/29/11


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