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Importance Of Six Day Creation

Why do you think, it is so important to some, for you to believe them in: The Six 24 Hour Days Of Creation?

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Those that believe that God was restricted to a 24 hour creation day do so only because they want to, not because of anything the Bible states or on anything that is rational.
---lee1538 on 1/17/12


Warwick:

The meaning of "In the beginning" is not precise. In particular, it is ambiguous with respect to duration. Does it mean "in the first second", "on the first day", or "on the first week"?

Genesis 1 is clear that man was created on day 6, yet Jesus said that man and women were created "in the beginning", so he was obviously using "in the beginning" to mean "in the first week".

Similarly, it is not clear just how precise a "beginning" Genesis 1:1 is. It says God created the heavens, yet the heavens are mentioned later as being created on a later day. Perhaps Genesis 1:1 also means "in the first week"?
---StrongAxe on 1/17/12


Lee: "Does your Bible say how long the earth was without form and void?"

Yes! ... In verse 1 (as Warwick points out) God establishes the time frame as "in the beginning". He then lists the activities for that day: 1) creation of heaven and and a bland earth, 2) the movement of the Spirit over the waters, 3) the creation of night and day, and 4) the culmination of day 1 with evening and morning (v.5).

The fact that the creation of the earth was a part of the first day is confirmed in Exo 20:11, wherein earth's creation is listed as a part of the six-day Creation week.

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth

Your interpretation contradicts scripture.

---jerry6593 on 1/17/12


Lee, my Grandson is well able to think for himself. Yes he does ask questions but is intelligent enough to think things through. He asked me a question about the General Theory of Relativity last week so I gave his an adult article upon it. He read it and understood it. Must be in the genes!

He has read Genesis and of his own account knows it says 6 24hr day creation. He is of course supported by Professor of Hebrew Dr.Barr. You know the one whose article upon this you refused to read.
---Warwick on 1/16/12


Warwick //My 10 year old grandson can understand that!
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And if your grandson grows up and starts to think for himself, what will he believe? Hopefully the truth, not what you prefer to believe.
---lee1538 on 1/16/12




Lee anyone who can read (as you are wont to write) knows Genesis begins with-In the beginning. The beginning of anything whether marathon, a life or a movie happens only once. That which follows comes directly after this, without any gap.

Further anyone who can read knows the earth was created without its final shape, and without any life. How do they know this? Because they bothered to read on,and noticed God called the dry land to appear on the third day then began to stock it with vegetation, animal life and finally mankind.

Those who have no reason to reinterpret Genesis will therefore realize that without shape and empty is a statement of the obvious.

My 10 year old grandson can understand that!
---Warwick on 1/16/12


jerry //This is what the Bible says:

And the earth was without form, and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. Genesis 1:2

Does your Bible say how long the earth was without form and void? or how long the Spirit of God hovered over the earth? Perhaps your denominational scruples overrule what the Bible teaches?

I am unable to see why you need to defend observance of the Jewish Sabbath from Genesis while it is too easy to conclude the facts - that the rest of God was based on the 6 periods of creation.
---lee1538 on 1/16/12


Jerry, the mountains were magnificent but seemingly steeper than last year!

Last Wednesday we had rain, followed by sleet, then hail and last of all snow! And this in the Australian Alps in the middle of summer. Man isn't global warming a worry.

Four young American hikers were lost for a day or so nearby but happily for all concerned were found safe.

We have returned home to the coolest wettest summer I can remember.
---Warwick on 1/16/12


Warwick:

Welcome back!

How were the mountains?


---jerry6593 on 1/16/12


That the days of creation were 6 24hr days is what Scripture says. Those who say otherwise do not base their belief on what Scripture says, but upon the fables of man. "See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ" Colossians 2:8.

That the days are 24hrs is important for a number of reasons, as has been pointed out by various bloggers many times. But it is especially important because some who insist they are Christians just will not believe what God's word says. "For whatever does not proceed from faith is sin" Romans 14:23.
---Warwick on 1/15/12




Lee: "Larry is correct in that the 6 "day" creation may have started long long long after "the earth was without form and void".

This is what the Bible says:

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

The only possible understanding of these words is six days of equal lengths of approximately 24 hours duration each.

What the Bible does not say - nor does it anywhere imply - is that the first three days of creation were extremely long, and species of animals were generated spontaneously by random genetic mutation.
---jerry6593 on 1/14/12


Mark_V
Actually a full rotation of the earth on its axis is not a full day. The Earth must spin nearly a full degree more before the Sun again crosses a point in the sky. About 4 minutes more to complete. Hey but who cares.

I like this:
The Seg, think about something here. We know that God is God and when He speaks something into creation it does not take an evening and a morning for that which He spoke to appear.

And the evening and the morning were the first day!
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lee1538, I keep looking for the word periods.
I think instead of saying periods, you should just say
I dont believe the days were 24 hours long.
God bless Guys!
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/14/12


The Seg, think about something here. We know that God is God and when He speaks something into creation it does not take an evening and a morning for that which He spoke to appear. Now, if it took Him an evening and a morning for that to appear, it would mean He, who is God, would be waiting in time for something to be. Yet we know He is outside of time. What would He do in the mean time? It doesn't take time as we know time for Him to bring something into existence. Second, We know that a day can refer to
1. the light portion of a 24 hr. period.
2. an extended period of time (2-3) or
3. the 24 hr. period which basically refers to a full rotation of the earh on its axis, called 'evening and morning" without there been a sun.
---Mark_V. on 1/13/12


Genesis 1: 2 The earth was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters.

Larry is correct in that the 6 "day" creation may have started long long long after "the earth was without form and void".

And anyone that can read can see that there is viritually nothing in the scripture that says the earliest periods of creation had to be of 24 hours duration. The earth could have been experiencing very fast rotations during the first 3 periods.
---lee1538 on 1/13/12


Larry: "We don't know exactly how long the earth was here before God created our current environment"

We should know! God cleared it up when He wrote:

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth


---jerry6593 on 1/13/12


Larry, I would agree, if I were talking!
We can clearly see it must have taken him millions of years.
Were no fools right. Who he to tell us, I did it in six days.
When we have such wisdom!

But its not me talking, is it?
Its God, and he said, six days!
So tell me, who should we believe?
Should I believe us or God?

Maybe we should be asking, why we dont believe God.
Christ called us fools!
Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:
(Well, who said this?)
Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
(Does it bother you, they dont believe?)
---TheSeg on 1/12/12


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Gen 1:1 in the beginning...
--the beginnning of what?
--time?, space?, matter?
--my guess is ..yes!!
--so wouldn't a beginning have a first? like the first day?
Gen 1:2, the decripition of the earth...dark, empty, and shapeless, like a blob of liqiud would be.
Gen 1:3-5 He addresses the darkness
Is this so hard to believe this happened on the first day?
Is this so hard to believe that this happened within 1 revolution of the liquid blob that God had suspended in space?
Gen 1:6-10 God addresses the shape
The rest of Genesis 1 addresses the empty..
Quite awesome, don't you agree?
Was not God there?
Did He not leave us record?
Why must it be interpreted any other way than how it is written?
---micha9344 on 1/12/12


The issue is the six day creationists of which I am one, confuse the creation ON earth with the creation OF earth. We don't know exactly how long the earth was here before God created our current environment, we only know it was here, water covering the entire dark globe as described in Genesis 1:2. We can only use the evidence we see to estimate the time of dinosaurs, hominids and God's other creatures. This is all very interesting as God's evolution of the races including giants branched out from Eden to, for example, Australia with the Aborigine, and the hundreds of languages in tiny Papua New Guinea that developed following Babel. Five or six thousand years just doesn't fit.
---larry on 1/11/12


Craig, it is you who does not understand what the name God means. Not only did God knew what would happen since He is Omniscient, knowing all. He did not cause the fall to happen, He designed His plan that way. Because He did not cause any evil in man, evil came from their hearts. He knew if He gave man a choice he would fail, and with that in mind knew what was going to happened. If He didn't know then He is not God, and is someone who is learning as He goes like any human. He sure is patient in time, not willing that any of His Elect parish. But that all come to repentance. Jesus did not pray for the world, but for those the Father gave Him. The love of God is for His children only. Though He loves the world He created.
---Mark_V. on 1/11/12


Love is patient
Why does God need patience if we have no free will?
Love is not self-seeking
In other words He wouldnt create something evil for the pleasure of destroying it
Love keeps no record of wrongs
Meaning he offers ALL a chance to be forgiven
Love does not delight in evil
Therefore he doesn't TEMPT us with it
Love rejoices in truth
So God wouldn't deceive us into thinking the serpent/satan caused our fall (by punishing it) if He was behind it the whole time.
Love always protects
What about those that He never gives a chance to?

Can you not see, Mark?
---CraigA on 1/11/12


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MarkV, in one sentence you say God foreordained/predestined/orchestrated the fall of Lucifer and man and in another you saw He foresaw it.

Which one is it? He is either the cause of it (in which case Lucifer is innocent)or He just knew it would happen ahead of time.

If God caused the fall of mankind by foreordaining it then He cursed the serpent and us for NO reason. He is unjust.

So he made these little things called humans so he could make them evil and punish most of them for eternity never giving them a chance to change? That is not a God of love and certainly not the God of scripture. Your heart is poisoned.
---CraigA on 1/11/12


Its amazing, right!
God clearly said I did it in six days.
But, we say, we know it took billions of years.

This is great, and then he makes days that have 24 hours, right!
And we still say, well the first three days, had no sun.
So it could have been billions of years.

But, what I see as really great is:
Didnt he say, whatever you ask believing, that I will do!
Then, it could take billions of years, for some to get to heaven.

Take heed what ye hear: with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you: and unto you that hear shall more be given.

I will not worry, for the least of you!
God blessed you
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/11/12


Craig, everything was forordained before the foundation of the world. The fall of Lucifur, and the fall of mankind. We are told that Christ was "foreknown indeed as a sacrifice for sin before the foundation of the world" ( 1 Peter 1:20). Nothing was created yet, and He was already known as a sacrifice for sin. The writer of Hebrews refers to "the blood of an eternal Covenant" (Heb. 13:20). This is God we are talking about. Had God wished, He could have prevented satan entrance into the garden and could have preserved Adam in a state of holiness as He did the Holy Angels. The mere fact that God fore-saw the fall is sufficient proof that He did not expect man to glorify Him by continuing in a state of Holiness.
---Mark_V. on 1/11/12


Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
This of course follows God's instantaneous creation of the universe billions of years ago and is in fact consistent with the description of the early primordial earth where debris would have prevented the sun from reaching earth. Continents would have not existed in the water world until God got busy again creating an environment for life as we know it. Bam!
---larry on 1/11/12


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--Whatever is done in times was foreordained before time began.--MarkV

Including "Lucifers" rebellion? Do you think God foreordained that?
---CraigA on 1/10/12


Mark, what does the word "world" (Gr. kosmos)(En. cosmos) mean to you?
---JackB on 1/9/12


Could you please answer this?
---JackB on 1/10/12


Craig, the "decrees" of God are mentioned in a variety of terms, we read of His "eternal purpose" In Acts ( 2:23) of His "determinate counsel". to signify they are wise. They are called God's "will" to show He was not under no control, but acted according to His own pleasure at the time He decreed. God's decrees are also "the counsel of His own will" (Eph. 1:11).
So the decrees of God relate to all future things without exception: Whatever is done in times was foreordained before time began. God's purpose was concerned with everything, whether great or small, whether good or evil. And while God is the Orderer and Controller of sin, He is not the Author of sin.
---Mark_V. on 1/10/12


--His desires and His decrees are very much different--MarkV

Scripture says differently.

His decrees are based on his desires.

Job 23:13 But he is in one mind, and who can turn him? and what his soul desireth, even that he doeth.
---CraigA on 1/10/12


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The creation was a miracle i.e. completed, like all miracles, really, really quickly. To show God did it, and not nature (i.e. really, really slowly), He did it as a miracle i.e. quicker than quick. The evidence for a young world is everywhere..if only you would open your hearts and minds to see the scientific evidence.

The young world proves God did it and not natural processes, as the atheists contend.
---Marc on 1/10/12


The Seg, welcome, I really don't get all of your question, but concerning Israel and all human beings, they are condemned already. No one is willing. Only God can give them the ability to be willing by giving them faith which comes through regeneration as a gift of God. In the end concerning Israel, not all will be saved. Only the Elect. Those who are physical descendants of Abraham will not be saved, only those who are circumsize of the heart. Those are from the Seed, the spiritual Seed of Abraham. Read the verses after Rom. 11:25-26, "Concerning the gospel they are enemies for your sake. "but concerning the Election they are beloved for the sake of the fathers, for the gifts and the calling of God are irrevocable."
---Mark_V. on 1/10/12


Larry: "I tend to believe the earth is 3-4 billion years old"

Again I ask ...And why is that?


---jerry6593 on 1/10/12


Mark, hi whats up :)
Is it really that they were not willing (v34)? For all have sin!

Shouldnt it fall back to, not by the deed of the law?
Rom_11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits, that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

So, even if they were willing too. Its not by the deed of the law.
And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
---TheSeg on 1/9/12


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Well Mark, I guess you and Jesus Christ will just have to disagree on that one, cuz He seems to think they resisted his desire. And no they werent always protected. Quite often God let other countries dominate them because of their resistance to His will.

Your argument isnt with me.
---JackB on 1/9/12


Jack, God all through history took Israel under her wing, made her His nation, protected them from all others. He favored Israel. But were they saved? No. They were under the Law. None could be saved under the Law, you know why? because none could keep the whole law. They were not willing (v34) Luke only means that (v.35) "...until the time comes when you say, Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord" Not until they are made to be willing, by the Holy Spirit when He brings them to spiritual life, then they will be willing with a new heart.
God also wants us to follow every command but we don't. His desires and His decrees are very much different. What He decreed to come to pass will come to pass no matter what.
---Mark_V. on 1/9/12


Mark, as I wrote in a post elsewhere, people will blow off the passages that don't fit their scheme. That's OK. We all do it. It's human nature!
---John.usa on 1/9/12


Johnusa, the New Testament is not clear that God wants to save everyone. If it was clear and He wanted to save everyone, He would save everyone.-MarkV

God desired to take Israel under his wing as a hen gathers her chicks under her wing according to scripture, MarkV. Now I ask you... WHY could God NOT do it? (ref. Luke 13:34)

Mark, what does the word "world" (Gr. kosmos)(En. cosmos) mean to you?
---JackB on 1/9/12


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God does not want anyone to perish.
God so loved the world he gave his only Son.
Repentance is for everyone we are told that. As long as we believe in Christ.
I have only seen days written in Genesis nothing about hours.It is not my place to say how long a day was in those times, either in human or God's terms.
God created the world. In America many of the top crops have been genetically altered and have been banned in Europe. The crops contain parts of animal cells to produce better growth. Is this a sin against creation?
---chris on 1/9/12


Johnuse, first if the passages in 1 Tim. 4:10 indicated that God is going to save all mankind, that would contradict all the passages that teach that many are going to hell. Paul is not teaching Universalism. That all men will be saved in the spiritual and eternal sense, since the rest of Scripture clearly teaches that God will not save everyone. Most will reject Him and spend eternity in hell (Matt.25:41,46: Rev. 20:11-15). God's salvation is for all mankind, but not all individuals. In the beginning it was only for Israel, now it extends to all mankind in general.
---Mark_V. on 1/9/12


The reason the Six 24 hour days is so essential is because the young earth creationist interpretation falls apart without it. The abiogenesis model put forth by evolutionists does not stand up to scrutiny and the young earth model also has difficulties. Genesis 1:2 describes the earth in its primordial state. The age of the universe and earth before creation not after is where the interpretations differ.
---larry on 1/9/12


Mark, Paul writes very explicitly in 1.Tim.4:10 that God is the Saviour of all mankind, and in 1.Tim.2:4 that God's will is that all be saved. And Eph.1:11 says God accomplishes everything according to the counsel of his will. So one can't say that God doesn't have the salvation of all in mind.
---John.usa on 1/9/12


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Johnusa, the New Testament is not clear that God wants to save everyone. If it was clear and He wanted to save everyone, He would save everyone. He is God after all. Who is Omnipotent. The god you formed in your mind is not the One from the pages of Scripture. The God of Scripture tells us,
"And all inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing, and He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand, or say unto Him, "What doest Thou?" (Dan. 4:35).
Your god wants to do something but cannot. "Power belongeth unto God" and to Him alone. Not a creature in the entire Universe has an atom of power save what God delegates.
---Mark_V. on 1/8/12


lee1538, Unfortunately, truth, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder since all too often what is asked of us to believe is not the truth but some interpretation.

No, not because someone holds something to be truth.
If a lie is believed to be truth, does make it truth. The truth is whats going to set you free.
He said if you know the truth, you are free indeed.
Kind of make me see a truth, that cant be believed.
Like a gift given!
Maybe, we should be trying to take the gifts to the altar.

See thou tell no man, but go thy way, shew thyself to the priest, and offer the gift that Moses commanded, for a testimony unto them.
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/8/12


Gordon //
Because GOD is a GOD of Truth. GOD also desires that HIS people have Truth in "all the inward parts".

Unfortunately, truth, like beauty, is in the eye of the beholder since all too often what is asked of us to believe is not the truth but some interpretation.

As to truth, Jesus said, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

So if one has Jesus in his life, then one has all the truth that is needed for this life and the life to come.

And that is truth that we can accept.
---lee1538 on 1/7/12


Mark, the New Testament is very clear in its teaching that God wants to save every human being and that Jesus died for that very purpose. There are so many scripture passages alluding to it or saying it plainly. If you don't see them, then you don't see them. So please don't tell me I believe a false gospel. It may be that you do though. God bless.
---John.usa on 1/7/12


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Because GOD is a GOD of Truth. GOD also desires that HIS people have Truth in "all the inward parts". Truth tells Who GOD is. Truth reveals what GOD is really capable of. For GOD to create everything in 144 hours is INCREDIBLE. It shows what an Awesome GOD HE is! Yes, GOD would be Awesome even if each Creation Day were really 1,000 Years each, as some teach, BUT, it goes back to what is Truth. GOD wants us to know the TRUTH.
---Gordon on 1/7/12


Johnusa, you ask me not to worry about your soul, but that is what we are called to do, to bring the truth to others, and if we see they are wrong, we should correct them so they can get on the right path. That is our obligation and should be what we want to do from the heart. If you believe that everyone is going to be saved in the end you have the wrong gospel. No one is saved by having the wrong gospel. Only the Gospel of Jesus Christ can save anyone. Trust involves the will as well as the mind. To have saving faith requires that we love the truth of the Gospel and desire to live it out. We embrace with our hearts the loveliness of Christ. And if you have the wrong gospel, how can you live it out?
---Mark_V. on 1/7/12


Larry: "I tend to believe the earth is 3-4 billion years old"

And why is that? Are you a trained historical geologist or an expert in radiometric dating techniques? No? Then you are merely accepting the OPINION of other men. Why not learn the truth for yourself? Try trusting God's word as much as men's opinions and doubting scientists as much as you doubt the Bible. It's enlightening to study for yourself.


---jerry6593 on 1/7/12


I have listened to all the arguments on here that are for and against. The one thing that is strong and clear is a belief in the creator and his works and on that we are all united.
---chris on 1/6/12


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No it doesnt seem that way, does it!

He said unto him:
What is written in the law? how readest thou?

He answer:
Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart,
and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind,
and thy neighbour as thyself.

He said unto him:
Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.

But he, willing to justify himself, said unto Jesus:
And who is my neighbour?

If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

Mat_5:23-24!

And these are now mine!
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/6/12


ok, seg. to many, the path to destruction is wide and just fine.

Mat 7:22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'
Mat 7:23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you, depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'

it does not sound like salvation on that day for many.

jesus' words...not mine.
---aka on 1/6/12


There is no biblical reason related to salvation or righteousness to believe in 6 24 hours days.
Old earth creationism fits perfectly within Genesis 1:1-2.
I tend to believe the earth is 3-4 billion years old, much of that in a void form, but I no less have faith in its author the one, true and only God.
In terms of obedience to God's will I don't think the young vs old earth debate matters much.
---larry on 1/6/12


In the old days, a good king might, that's why their all dead now.
But, we're not talking about a good king, are we?
We're talking about a just and great everlasting king, aren't we!

Rev 6:15-17? Only he who the king commands, to stand!
The king speaks on this wise.
Rev_22:17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come.
And let him that heareth say, Come.
And let him that is athirst come.
And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

No! Measure yourself in front of your brothers.
That they might see.

"i have a right to point out what i see" Yes and this is your God given right, isn't it.
I was not given this right, Joh_16:13.
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/6/12


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in the old days, kings and their subjects that lost in a war bowed to the one who overcame. however, they were not invited into the kingdom. they usually lost their head or were thrown into prison.

TheSeg, what does this mean to you?
Rev 6:15-17
The only one that i take offense to is myself!
_____


in what ways have i judged?

what makes you think i haven't measured myself, before my brothers?

i do not have a problem with my brothers. everybody has the right to pick their own poison. but, i have a right to point out what i see as poison to those that might want to make an educated decision. universalism is the poison.
---aka on 1/6/12


I keep looking at the things, God is saying.
Then look at the things, people say God is saying.
Then say I, what are they looking at?

God called the light day from the very first day!
But, No! The sun wasnt there!
So, call it whatever you want. No problem!

God said: Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
But, No! I dont have to, and your right you don't.
But, what you don't see is, you do!
But, what I see, as even worse, is when people say "I keep it!"
Not understanding the very nature of the day. Again, no problem!

Aka, what does this mean to you?
Rom_14:11
I'm not trying to offend!
_____


Measure yourself, before your brothers!
Peace!
---TheSeg on 1/6/12


Mark, don't worry about my soul. People who trust in Jesus will be saved. I am one who does. One does not have to have all the details of eschatology perfectly worked out in one's mind to be saved. God bless :)
---John.usa on 1/6/12


Jerry //Because that is what the Bible says!

The Bible says a lot of things, but the problem lies with your interpretation.

While I believe totally in what the Bible says, there are some like Warwick and yourself that insists that all the creation days had to be of 24 hours duration. As I stated before the Bible DOES NOT SAY THAT.

And the Bible does not say Christians need to observe the Jewish Sabbath (Romans 14), nor will I believe that Jesus was a liar when He said whatever we eat does not defile us (Mark 7:20) and that food does not commend us to God (1 Cor. 8:8).

Sorry but your religion is not serving either you or other Christians.
---lee1538 on 1/6/12


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aka, I'm not going to convince you, and you're not going to convince me. So we can just disagree. God bless. :)
---John.usa on 1/6/12


john.usa,

drawn is different than saved. the magnet attracts all perfectly, the metal may/may not respond (for whatever reason). all are drawn, but not everybody drawn will respond accordingly. the draw is 100% on His part, the response to His draw are much less.

it does not matter if i agree with you, but the gospel correctly quoted, applied, and kept in totality does not agree with universalism.

for those who have an ear:

Mat 7:13 "Enter by the narrow gate. For the gate is wide and the way is easy that leads to destruction, and those who enter by it are many.
Mat 7:14 For the gate is narrow and the way is hard that leads to life, and those who find it are few.
---aka on 1/6/12


The Seg: "Why do you think, it is so important to some, for you to believe them in: The Six 24 Hour Days Of Creation?"

Because that is what the Bible says!

God went to the trouble of writing it in stone with His own finger:

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day

He then commands us to count these days (evenings and mornings) and rest the seventh one because He made it holy.

There is no way that such language can be misconstrued as "eons" of Creation. And why should it? Just because you think that science upholds the Evolution hoax (which it does not), is no reason to call God a liar.


---jerry6593 on 1/6/12


Johnusa, don't you care to get it right? Doesn't it matter to you? If your soul is at stake, wouldn't you want to know the Truth? Are you happy not knowing?
You also said, people will be forgiven in the age to come? Are you saying that after we are dead, people who were lost will be forgiven? Can you give passage to that effect?
---Mark_V. on 1/6/12


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aka, if you put a magnet on the table and all the metal chips don't reach the magnet, then only some of the chips are drawn. Jesus didn't say, I will TRY to draw all people to myself. He said I WILL DRAW all people to myself. If you disagree, then we'll just disagree. That's okay. Remember, Jesus said that some people will be forgiven in this age, and others in the age to come. God's mercy endures forever. :)
---John.usa on 1/5/12


After thousands of years people have not gotten to "KNOW" God, His personality and works!'

God is not a razzle-dazzle magic act. Every facet of creation is intelligently designed,from the eyes of a fly to the leathery skin of an elephant! Not slam-bam put together in a couple of hours!

OH the old argument "could have"

He could have flooded the earth in seconds but He took 40 days!
Could have sent His Son first century ,He took 4,000 years!
Could have made "New Heaven and earth...not here yet!

Made everything in 144 hrs?? Nah !
---1st_cliff on 1/5/12


//actually Jesus did teach that all would be saved. See John.12:32.// ---John.usa

no... he said all will be drawn to Him.

if i put a magnet in the middle of a pile of metal shavings, they will all be drawn but will not all come.

John 12:35 So Jesus said to them, "The light is among you for a little while longer. Walk while you have the light, lest darkness overtake you. The one who walks in the darkness does not know where he is going.
John 12:48 The one who rejects me and does not receive my words has a judge, the word that I have spoken will judge him on the last day.

all will be drawn but not all saved.
---aka on 1/5/12


aka, actually Jesus did teach that all would be saved. See John.12:32.
---John.usa on 1/5/12


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So do we put too much emphasis on time because our own lives are ruled by it?
That we find it hard to imagine a situation where time is not a dominating factor?
---chris on 1/5/12


The Seg, I don't really think it's such a big deal to argue the hours, days, or centuries. It might be to SDA's since they have Saturday Sabbath as their banner. I say this because their arguments begin with the Old T. laws and with the days of creaton. What's important is that the gospel started in ( Gen. 3:15). What God wanted to show in the beginnings, was His Sovereign power to create. God by willful act and divine Word, spoke all creation into existence, furnished it, and finally breathed life into a lump of dirt which He fashioned in His image to become Adam. Man was the crowning point of His creation. God did not see fit to explained every detail of time or why He decided to do what He did, only that it was for His own purpose and will.
---Mark_V. on 1/5/12


Now when, God said, let there be light!
God also called that light, day! Gen_1:5!
So, God keyed the word daylight!

But, People say the first three days were different, then the rest.
Its clear all the planets, had a rotation right from their beginnings!
And what difference, does that make to earth rotation, if the sun is not there?
None! Only to its orbit!

Well, if the earth had a rotation, which is clear, it did!
Wouldnt half the time of that rotation, be in that light God called, day!
And the other half in that God called, night!
And remember, God called that light, day!
So then arent all the days the same?

But, why should I care if you believe this?
Peace!
---TheSeg on 1/5/12


Because to some truth is more of a god than God is.
---Scott1 on 1/5/12

Scott, God IS truth. Jesus said "I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life."
---Jed on 1/5/12


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//Why do you think, it is so important to some, for you to believe them in: The Six 24 Hour Days Of Creation?

Because some are unable to conceive of the idea that there can be any reasonable interpretations beyond what is literally stated.

We see that in the saying of Christ, This is my body. Some want only the literal interpretation as it would tax their brains too much to even conceive that Christ was not advocating someone chew on His physical body.

In the 6 day creation, we do see a change in what constituted a day as the light source became different, and the record does not tell us anything about duration of the creation periods.

The concept that God is not bound by time is foreign to many.
---lee1538 on 1/5/12


Because to some truth is more of a god than God is.
---Scott1 on 1/5/12


The Bible can be very complex, anything that has historical and religious base normally is.
Some will take its meanings at face value. Others will read deeper meanings into things.
The same with the six days. Some will read it as 24 hours. For some it maybe 86000 years for example. Whilst others have no concept of time.
I think the main point is that you believe In God and that God made the universe and all in it. That is acceptance of God the father and creator.
---chris on 1/5/12


I think many people have a difficult time viewing the Bible as part historical and part mythological. ...Anyway, let everyone keep fighting it out. They're going to whether we like it or not! :-)
---John.usa on 1/4/12

the bible is allegorical and historical based on prose, poetry, hyperbole, and other devices of literature, but it is in no way mythological.

and, people will keep "fighting" it out until He returns because it is written. jesus did not teach universalism.
---aka on 1/5/12


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from other "6 days" blog:

"It is hard to understand why they keep referring to Exodus 20 as proof that all the creation days had to be of 24 hours in duration." ---lee1538 on 1/4/12

it's exodus 20:11 to be exact.

it is harder to understand the "proof" to the six days not lasting the same duration especially since God put them all in the same group.
---aka on 1/5/12


Respectfully saying ,your question is vague.Can you clarify please?
---earl on 1/4/12


I think many people have a difficult time viewing the Bible as part historical and part mythological. They think if part of it is historical, then all of it has to be historical. Anyway, let everyone keep fighting it out. They're going to whether we like it or not! :-)
---John.usa on 1/4/12


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