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No Sin Entered People Of Saturn

EGW said, "The inhabitants [of Saturn] are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of Earth. Sin has never entered here." Does not the Bible say that sin infected the entire physical universe (KOSMOS in Greek)? Which is right?

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Wow, The inhabitants [of Saturn]!
Im sure many now believe there life out there.
Its ok, right! The bible doesnt exclude it, right.
Heb_1:2
Heb_11:3
Just want you to remember, just as he said six days.
He said:
Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind.
So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him, male and female created he them.

Im asking you. How hard is it, for you to believe earth is the only planet with life?
You, know what! Ill Blog this.

Aug 8-11, 2011 NASA researchers have found the building blocks of DNA in space rocks!
I no longer believe life exist anywhere, but earth.
Never thought I'd say this!
---TheSeg on 1/12/12


\\I would not think that it is against the word of God to have other world with unfallen beings\\

Whether there are beings on other planets capable of moral, spiritual, and intellectual life with rational souls comparable to ourselves, I know not. I neither reject the notion out of hand, nor do I accept it as axiomatic.

However, if they exist, they are affected by the sin of Adam as surely as we are, since the Bible says that sin entered into the entire physical created universe (KOSMOS in Greek), and EGW contradicted the Bible when she claimed that Saturnians (if such there be) are "untouched by sin"--among her many other unbiblical statements.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/12/12


//Or do you mean something else?//---francis on 1/12/12

no. this is what i meant and that is what cluny was asking in his original question.
---aka on 1/12/12


\\do you think that EGW taught something that was contrary to the bible?
---aka on 1/11/12\\

Lots.

Or rather, I don't think. I know she did.

I've mentioned some of them on these blogs.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/12/12


do you think that EGW taught something that was contrary to the bible?
---aka on 1/11/12

I would not think that it is against the word of God to have other world with unfallen beings

Or do you mean something else?
---francis on 1/12/12




raises another few questions, but i will stick with one for now.:

do you think that EGW taught something that was contrary to the bible?
---aka on 1/11/12


\\BTW, Following your lead, I'm thinking of referring to you as the pagan heretic Cluny.


---jerry6593 on 1/11/12
\\

And you will only bless me and increase my heavenly treasure if you do.

Do you really want to do that?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/11/12


This raises come wuestions.

1: Is there life on other planets
2: have they sinned
3: What then is the plan of redeemption for them
4: Do Aliens land on earth from outer space, are they saved or lost
---francis on 1/11/12


//Now does that make it more likely that she had a true vision// francis

sure i believe she had a vision

"...After counting aloud the moons of Jupiter, and soon after those of Saturn, she gave a beautiful description of the rings of the latter. She then said, 'The inhabitants are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of earth. Sin has never entered here.' " (Taken from Mrs. Truesdail's letter, Jan 27, 1891)

now, let's address the original question...since she quoted that sin never entered [Saturn] and the bible says that sin infected the whole universe (kosmos) in Rome 5:12, which do you agree with? egw or the bible?

i believe egw had a vision and this statement is in conflict with scripture.
---aka on 1/10/12


francis:

Cluny quoted what other witnesses wrote about what E. G. White said.

Also, it is curious that before her vision she knew nothing about astronomy, but afterwards, she knew a fair bit (in particular, limited to just the things that astronomers of her day knew). This is much more consistent with her having read or heard about such things from earthly sources. If God had revealed them to her, for example, she would have known about the 59 moons of Jupiter that were discovered later, and not just the 4 that were known at that time. She was close enough to be able to see that people had wings, couldn't see any of the other moons? I don't think so.
---StrongAxe on 1/11/12




Cluny: Now be honest, did you actually read the book "Early Writings" or did you glean your cherry pickings from some third party, hate-SDA website. It is one of my favorite books.

BTW, Following your lead, I'm thinking of referring to you as the pagan heretic Cluny.


---jerry6593 on 1/11/12


Isaiah 6:1 In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.

Revelation 4:8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him, and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

"The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes, they were noble, majestic, and lovely."

How do we varify vision such as these?
---francis on 1/11/12


---aka on 1/10/12
Are you saying that she knew NOTHING of astronomy, but after the vision she could answer any if not many question ACCURATELY. IF not for the vision she would otherwise not have known of these planets?

Now does that make it more likely that she had a true vision or less likely?

John knew nothing of the CONSTRUCTION holy city the new jerusalem, ( although based on other apostles they knew it existed) after his vision he could describe the holy city. Is it more or less likely that he had a true vision?
---francis on 1/10/12


See the difference ebtween what cluny posted and what E G White wrote? ---francis on 1/10/12

Ellens husband, James White, verified her vision. He wrote, "At our conference in Topsham, Maine, last Nov., Ellen had a vision of the handy works of God. She was guided to the planets Jupiter, Saturn, and I think one more. After she came out of vision, she could give a clear description of their Moons, etc. It is well known, that she knew nothing of astronomy, and could not answer one question in relation to the planets, before she had this vision." A Word to the "Little Flock," p. 22.

witness.
---aka on 1/10/12


We can pray that Lee and people who will fabricate points to put done Christians because they disagree with them.

John Calvin wrote on the Ten Commandents that they were "the true and eternal rule of righteousness [for all] who wish to conform their lives to God's will."

Yet Lee states that anyone who supports the Ten Commandments is a Judiazer so does that make Calvin a Judiazer?
---Samuelbb7 on 1/10/12


"The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes, they were noble, majestic, and lovely."

There is no mention of "Saturn" or "tall" here. Perhaps there was a discrepancy between what she wrote, and what others claim she said (and perhaps what she actually said, since it may or may not be the same as what she wrote).
---StrongAxe on 1/10/12
See the difference ebtween what cluny posted and what E G White wrote?
---francis on 1/10/12


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A lot of confusion about what she *said*, which was written by someone else, and what she *wrote*, which was different than what she said, maybe even a different topic.
The matter still remains on whether the author of the witten message that was verbalized by EGW is reliable.
If the author is reliable, the statement is reliable.
Hearsay has many exceptions and we're not in a court of law here.
---micha9344 on 1/10/12


Cluny:

The quote from "Early Writings" (p.39-40) is:

"The Lord has given me a view of other worlds. Wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes, they were noble, majestic, and lovely."

There is no mention of "Saturn" or "tall" here. Perhaps there was a discrepancy between what she wrote, and what others claim she said (and perhaps what she actually said, since it may or may not be the same as what she wrote).
---StrongAxe on 1/10/12


//Notice that jerry does not deal with the actual words of EGW and their anti-Biblical implications, but only indulges in ad hominem attacks.

What else can they do with faced with facts they cannot refute.

Poor Adventists, we can only pray that someday the Christian faction in their organization will eventually prevail over the Judaiziers.

The Worldwide Church of God (a Sabbaterian organization)was able to do it, so why cannot the Adventists do so also?
---lee1538 on 1/10/12


" The Lord has given me [EGW] a view of other worlds, ...Then I was taken to a world which had seven moons. There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated. Early Writings, pp. 39-40.
---aka on 1/10/12
THANK YOU

Not exactly the same as cluny's post is it?
"The inhabitants [of Saturn] are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of Earth. Sin has never entered here."

2 Corinthians 12:3 And I knew such a man, (whether in the body, or out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth,)

2 Corinthians 12:4 How that he was caught up into paradise, and heard unspeakable words, which it is not lawful for a man to utter.

There is no way of telling if these are true or false
---francis on 1/10/12


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\\Because it better suits his purpose - not the truth, but religious bigotry and slander.\\

Notice that jerry does not deal with the actual words of EGW and their anti-Biblical implications, but only indulges in ad hominem attacks.

Keep on blessing me, jerry. Your reproaches are compliments.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/10/12


\\Obviusly she did NOT make the staement that you posted or I would not ask for the ORIGINAL.\\

This is attested to by her husband, the Arian heretic James White.

It is included in a volume of her deluded rants called "Early Wriings." Look it up for yourself.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/10/12


" The Lord has given me [EGW] a view of other worlds, ...Then I was taken to a world which had seven moons. There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated. Early Writings, pp. 39-40.

Ellens husband, James White, verified her vision. He wrote, "At our conference in Topsham, Maine, last Nov., Ellen had a vision of the handy works of God. She was guided to the planets Jupiter, Saturn, and I think one more. After she came out of vision, she could give a clear description of their Moons, etc. It is well known, that she knew nothing of astronomy, and could not answer one question in relation to the planets, before she had this vision." A Word to the "Little Flock," p. 22.
---aka on 1/10/12


Axey: Thank you for your honesty. It's refreshing!


Francis: "Why choose a second or third hand source when the ORIGINAL is still available?"

Because it better suits his purpose - not the truth, but religious bigotry and slander.


---jerry6593 on 1/10/12


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I regard the sources on what Ellen White claimed to see people on Saturn as being reliable.

Until Adventists can prove this was fabricated, it will continue to witness against her.

Of course, this incident has to be embarrassing as Adventist claim Ellen white to be their guiding light - Jesus and His word to them is not sufficient.
---lee1538 on 1/10/12


Not in the source I quoted, so don't blame me for it. When I had 125 (i/o just 50 words) I gave the entire passage.

In any case, do you DENY that she made an unscientific, as well as unbiblical, statement?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/9/12
Obviusly she did NOT make the staement that you posted or I would not ask for the ORIGINAL.

You choose the source, so who should be blames.

Why choose a second or third hand source when the ORIGINAL is still available?
---francis on 1/9/12


Cluny:

In the original, she said she was taken to a place of tall, majestic, sinless inhabitants. She does not identify it by name, so whether or not it is patently false, or possibly true (like Paul's vision of heaven), there is not enough information to tell.
---StrongAxe on 1/9/12


\\This quote "The inhabitants [of Saturn] are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of Earth. Sin has never entered here." is not the original. the original begins with " I SAW...:
---Francis on 1/9/12\\

Not in the source I quoted, so don't blame me for it. When I had 125 (i/o just 50 words) I gave the entire passage.

In any case, do you DENY that she made an unscientific, as well as unbiblical, statement?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/9/12


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//I believe the original came from a letter taken from Mrs. Truesdail published in Loughboroughs The 2d Great Advent Movement, pp. 260-261.

Was not Truesdail a reliable witness? Adventists have never proven otherwise.

And others that have witnessed Ellen White during her visions report similar stories.
---lee1538 on 1/9/12


What have I said that is not the truth, francis?

Be specific.
---Cluny on 1/9/12
This quote "The inhabitants [of Saturn] are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of Earth. Sin has never entered here." is not the original. the original begins with " I SAW...:
---Francis on 1/9/12


\\The only thing embarasing here is that you and cluny claim to be followers of Jesus christ, yet you never pass up an opportunity to tell a lie.\\

What have I said that is not the truth, francis?

Be specific.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/9/12


"We soon noticed that she was insensible to earthly things....After counting aloud the moons of Jupiter, and soon after those of Saturn, she gave a beautiful description of the rings of the latter. She then said, "The inhabitants are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of earth. Sin has never entered here." 67
Ellen also reports on her planetary vision in Early Writings, where she saw Enoch among the inhabitants of one of the planets. 68
---Cluny on 1/8/12
This above is what someone is saying that Ellen said

What Ellen said the ORIGIAL starts with "I SAW..."

You are yet to post the original
---francis on 1/9/12


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-Calling someone a liar without prsenting proof is, in essence, becoming a false witness, a liar.
-Which shall be judeged and which shall be justidified.
Mat 5:10 Blessed [are] they which are persecuted for righteousness' sake: for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
Mat 5:11 Blessed are ye, when [men] shall revile you, and persecute [you], and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.
Pro 19:5 A false witness shall not be unpunished, and [he that] speaketh lies shall not escape.
--So, either the man that reported these words from EGW is true or false, regardless of belief in the statement.
---micha9344 on 1/9/12


I gave it, francis.

Deal.
---Cluny on 1/9/12


Cluny Thank you for the reply.
I gave note to the importance of church. I maybe put myself badly.
Yet if you do not build a personal relationship with God where are you?
What does the Bible say to you personally. Not just what you are told it says?
Do not some modern books confuse rather than clear the path?
Do not some doctrines divide us in faith rather than unite?
Learning from other Christians is cool.Taking something on board and progressing is good.
To me people here are trying to be good Christians.
Cluny The NT is full of Christians who went before.
---chris on 1/9/12


Moderator, I agree. Lets have a reality check, back down to the earth people and back to the Bible...people inhabit the earth, not saturn. This is the kind of thing that happens when people follow cults rather than Christ, and falsehood rather than truth.
---Eloy on 1/9/12


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I believe the original came from a letter taken from Mrs. Truesdail published in Loughboroughs The 2d Great Advent Movement, pp. 260-261.

"Sister White was in very feeble health, and while prayers were offered in her behalf, the Spirit of God rested upon us. We soon noticed that she was insensible to earthly things. This was her first view of the planetary world. After counting aloud the moons of Jupiter, and soon after those of Saturn, she gave a beautiful description of the rings of the latter. She then said, 'The inhabitants are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of earth. Sin has never entered here.'"
---lee1538 on 1/9/12


Lots of talk by LEEj and Cluny and a few others

ALL I ASK is that they post THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT made by ellen g white.
CLUNY and LEEJ, WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO HIDE?
WHY NOT PRINT THE ORIGINAL?

It starts with " I SAW" and not "She said," "she saw" or " she wrote."

Once the OPRIGINAL STATEMENT by ELLEN WHITE is posted then and only then can we have an Honest discussion.

maybe you are not interested in HONESTY AND TRUTH
---francis on 1/9/12


I would suspect that her followers being rather embarrassed by some of the wild things she beleived, have modified the story over the years.
---lee1538 on 1/8/12

The only thing embarasing here is that you and cluny claim to be followers of Jesus christ, yet you never pass up an opportunity to tell a lie.

How do you think people who are none christians would react when they see the lies that you all tell.

Many like Christopher Hitchens make their case against God, based mainly on the behaviour of christians. When people who claim to be christians tell lies, and behave like you do, it does not make a case for God. It makes a case against God

Or maybe you already knew that!!!
---francis on 1/9/12


aka, just depends on one's level of credulity, I suppose.... ---John.usa on 1/8/12

i guess that's true for everything. that is why i post here. it's not about convincing anyone. it is about planting a seed.
---aka on 1/9/12


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\\Yet surely the basis of belief is. God, Jesus, Holy Ghost, Bible, Prayer and you and the relationship you build with God.\\

Wrong.

Remember that the Church functioned in all her fullness before ONE WORD of the NT was written down.

And until the invention of the printing press, the average Christian did NOT have copies of the Scripture at home. He was lucky if he had a Psalter and one of the Gospels.

Christianity is NOT a "do it yourself all alone" faith.

In fact, it's by reading the Bible all alone with NO reference to Christians gone before that leads to modern sects and heresies. As St. Paul wrote, "Is it just to you the Word of God has come?"

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/9/12


\\Cluny: Ellen White knew nothing of astronomy.\\

Or much of anything else, for that matter.

"We soon noticed that she was insensible to earthly things....After counting aloud the moons of Jupiter, and soon after those of Saturn, she gave a beautiful description of the rings of the latter. She then said, "The inhabitants are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of earth. Sin has never entered here." 67
Ellen also reports on her planetary vision in Early Writings, where she saw Enoch among the inhabitants of one of the planets. 68
---Cluny on 1/8/12


i have done it twice now, francis.

i have done a few other things that you have challenged people with and i hope it matters. it is my prayer that it does for you specifically.

but, i know there a a few here who don't know but can hear and it does matter.
---aka on 1/8/12


God, Jesus, Holy Ghost, Bible, Prayer and you.
I believe I have the ability to read the bible and draw my own conclusion as much as anyone else. I do not feel the need for a doctrine or someone's books, to tell me what I must believe. If I do not understand something in the Bible then I can go to God in prayer.
Church is a good place to go and meet other Christians to worship and pray together and offer comfort.
Yet surely the basis of belief is. God, Jesus, Holy Ghost, Bible, Prayer and you and the relationship you build with God.
A question Are there times when some people are so involved in putting forward their doctrine God comes second?
---chris on 1/8/12


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Galatians 1:8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed.

And old Ellen liken to Joseph Smith often spoke of her accomplishing angel.

Adventists unfortunately after being sterile when it comes to spreading the gospel, will not realize what and who old Ellen White was until they face the Lord at the Judgment seat.
---lee1538 on 1/8/12


francis//There is an actually staement of ellen G white in wrinting form, which may sound like that. But it does not say anything as cluny and others are saying.

I would suspect that her followers being rather embarrassed by some of the wild things she beleived, have modified the story over the years.

Adventists will do just about everything including creating false statements to protect their prophetess. Look what they did with their October 1844 prophecy.

//If these men where christians and honest, they would PRINT THE ORIGINAL which is online.

Yes, if they could locate the very earliest statement, printing it would further implicate the Adventist holiest prophetess.
---lee1538 on 1/8/12


aka, just depends on one's level of credulity, I suppose....
---John.usa on 1/8/12


Deuteronomy 18:20-22, 1Timothy 6:20-21, 2Peter 2:1-3.
"The inhabitants there are a tall majestic people. Sin has never entered there."
Re: vision of Saturn and Jupiter, Arthur White, -Ellen White the Early Years-, Vol. 1, 1827-1862, p. 113 Also, -The Letter of Mrs. Truesdail-, Jan. 27, 1891.
---Glenn on 1/8/12


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Mrs. White did not write that statement about the Saturnians. She was supposedly overheard saying it. It is hearsay. It may or may not be true.
---John.usa on 1/7/12
There is an actually staement of ellen G white in wrinting form, which may sound like that. But it does not say anything as cluny and others are saying

If these men where christians and honest, they would PRINT THE ORIGINAL which is online
---francis on 1/8/12


//It is hearsay. It may or may not be true.// ---John.usa on 1/7/12

Early Writings, pp. 39-40:

"The Lord has given ME a view of other worlds, ..."

I have no reason to doubt that she was given a view of other worlds, but i doubt it was from the Lord.
---aka on 1/8/12


Cluny: Ellen White knew nothing of astronomy. She never uttered the word "Saturn" in relation to this vision. Other people SPECULATED that she meant Saturn, just as you SPECULATE about the Bible. What motivates you to slander a woman who's been dead for nearly a century? Certainly not a love of the truth or Christian kindness.


---jerry6593 on 1/8/12


Mrs. White did not write that statement about the Saturnians. She was supposedly overheard saying it. It is hearsay. It may or may not be true.
---John.usa on 1/7/12


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And Joseph Smith said there were Quakers livng on the moon!
---John on 1/7/12


---Cluny on 1/7/12
The inhabitants [of Saturn] are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of Earth. Sin has never entered here."

This is FAR from the original
PLEASE PRINT THE PRIGINAL and give the book and page reference from where it came
---francis on 1/7/12


I find it hard to belive this topic actually came up on christianet. I wish someone would show me where saturn is in relation to being a christian. I would think ellen white is probably begging for a drop of water about now.
---shira4368 on 1/7/12


\\Can you print the ORIGINAL STATEMENT by ELLEN G WHITE\\

I did.

Are you trying to deny she said this--and other things I've posted?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/7/12


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In 1846 Mrs. Truesdail, a dedicated and sincere Adventist, described how Mrs. White saw a tall, majestic people living on either Jupiter or Saturn during one of her visions.

"Sister White was in very feeble health, and while prayers were offered in her behalf, the Spirit of God rested upon us. We soon noticed that she was insensible to earthly things. This was her first view of the planetary world. After counting aloud the moons of Jupiter, and soon after those of Saturn, she gave a beautiful description of the rings of the latter. She then said, The inhabitants are a tall, majestic people, so unlike the inhabitants of earth. Sin has never entered here.

Adventist will deny that Ellen White believed in life on Saturn.
---lee1538 on 1/7/12


Francis, if you want to read what Ellen G. White wrote about her going to Saturn and Jupiter, all you need to do is read her early writtings page 39-40, dated in 1946.

Also read what her husband, James White wrote about her visions in his book "A Word To The Little Flock, page 22, dated 1847.
---Rob on 1/7/12


Wow! I am now convinced that Cluny [a malicious cat] came from Saturn. He probably also wears a tinfoil hat to keep the aliens from accessing the great thoughts in his brain.

It is good that you mentioned "Saturn" in brackets, since it is YOU that said it - EGW never did.


---jerry6593 on 1/7/12


Early Writings, pp. 39-40:

The Lord has given me a view of other worlds, wings were given me, and an angel attended me from the city to a place that was bright and glorious. The grass of the place was living green, and the birds there warbled a sweet song. The inhabitants of the place were of all sizes, they were noble, majestic, and lovely. . . . I asked one of them why they were so much more lovely than those on the earth. . . . Then I was taken to a world which had seven moons. There I saw good old Enoch, who had been translated.
---aka on 1/7/12


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Can you print the ORIGINAL STATEMENT by ELLEN G WHITE
---francis on 1/7/12


Yes, and a blessed Epiphany to Western Rite Christians. :)
---John.usa on 1/7/12


Cluny, Off topic,but let me say Merry Christmas to you and all Orthodox Christians!
---1st_cliff on 1/6/12


The Ancients noted that sometimes the planets travel backwards. That probably helped Mrs. White catch up with them as she travelled outward towards them.
---John.usa on 1/6/12


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saturn is the sixth planet.
---aka on 1/6/12


Oh okay, Mrs. White, the Adventist lady. I wonder how she knew about the Saturnians?
---John.usa on 1/6/12


\\Cluny, if you believe this Ellen person and that there are inhabitants of Saturn,\\

anon, did I say that **I** believed it?

I'm just reporting what Ellen G. White, the prophetess of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church, claimed.

And what lies have I spread? Please be specific.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/6/12


Jerry, Francis, Samuel - Where O'where is the re-interpretation of Ellen White statements? After all, everything she claimed to teach was from the Bible, and the Bible alone?
---lee1538 on 1/6/12


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Cluny: If the statement is accurate, Ellen G. White obviously was spaced out (looney) way beyond the known kosmos. What I find very disturbing is she actually had an enormous following of like-minded, seriously duped people. Far out!!! :(
---Leon on 1/6/12


//Yep!

Ellen G. White claimed to have had a vision of the inhabitants of Saturn.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/6/12//

Cluny, if you believe this Ellen person and that there are inhabitants of Saturn, then you are totally deceived, not partially, but totally. God have mercy on us for spreading non-biblical stuff around like this..lies, lies and more lies is what you spread Cluny.
---anon on 1/6/12


Much to their dislike, Jerry & Francis, and maybe even Samuel will have to believe this since Ellen is considered an infallible prophetess.

And much like their silly belief that Christ entered into the inner sanctuary in heaven to begin judgment, it is really impossible to disprove their beliefs.
---lee1538 on 1/6/12


Cluny?????....is that you?
....."People of Saturn"?????

I always thought you were a 'straight arrow textist'.


Is someone hijacking your account and playing a prank or has stress overwhelmed you and you went bonkers?.

I noticed one of your other posts recently was 'out of character' (to say the least).

Maybe you haven't noticed any changes in yourself lately, but ask The Lord for a checkup.

....(and who is EGW?).
---more_excellent_way on 1/6/12


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\\Moderator - Inhabitants of Saturn?\\

Yep!

Ellen G. White claimed to have had a vision of the inhabitants of Saturn.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/6/12


john.usa,

he is a she.
---aka on 1/6/12


Who is EGW? Did he visit Saturn?
---John.usa on 1/6/12


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