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Mega Churches Are Packed

Why is it the Churches which teach SOUND BIBLICAL DOCTRINE may have 100 members, yet people like T.D. Jakes, Joel Olsteen, Kenneth Copeland, etc, who don't teach from the Bible but they have MEGA CHURCHES which are packed?

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Shira,

I came to choose my church because nothing is taught that cannot be backed up in context of the scripture, and we are not fixated on traditions interpreted and created by man. Everything that is taught is straight form the Bible.
---A_servant on 7/8/13


Markv, I answered you and Kathy on the same blog but two questions on separate blogs. I will go back and find it. I am in the process of moving and don't spend hours on christianet.
---shira4368 on 7/8/13


Markv, I was responding to Nikki expecting all to confess to a priest. I told her our entercessor is Jesus Christ. she is catholic and her entercessor is the priest. That is it in a nutshell.
---shira4368 on 7/8/13


Shira, what in the world are you talking about? And what Truth did Kathr give? I have not seen much truth coming from her. Maybe you can give me a clue.
About faith. No lost person has saving faith that comes from God as a gift. Grace is not a gift, it is an action by God. Gift is something He gives us. (Eph. 2:8)
"For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God, not of works, lest anyone should boast" We are saved by grace, through faith which is a gift of God, not of works, (our own free will) lest anyone boast, (If it is by your own free will, you are boasting). How are you boasting? By suggesting you give God permission to save you.
---Mark_V. on 7/8/13


a servant, I am not judging any church. I know about mega churches and I admire billy graham. You and I both must judge something to find the church that God would know we fit. I've watched some just to see what they teach. How did you come to choose your church?
---shira4368 on 7/6/13




can I use this blog to answer Markv, Kathr, you answered Markv perfectly. Markv, I am a sinner but I am saved by grace thru faith. We are all sinners but I was trying to convey to you that unsaved sinners don't know what faith is. Before I got saved I did not know what faith was. I would think you of all people would understand that. I am still a sinner just like you are.
---shira4368 on 7/6/13


Shira,

Although some of what you say is right, you cannot judge all mega-churches. Watch videos of Billy Graham's mega-churches, not very worldly at all. Many are people pleasing and entertainment focused yes, but it is wrong to judge what you have not been given authority to judge.
---A_servant on 7/6/13


cluny, please don't put mega churches in the same class as Jesus Christ. anyone who has been to one knows they are into entainment. they have their rock bands and get the young people worked up. if the mega churches would stop entertaining, people would stop going to them. some churches even have breakfast and a coffee room. I've been inside one that looks like a mall. a million dollar cross that can be seen for miles. wouldn't it be nice if they could support missions with the money they spent on the cross.
---shira4368 on 6/27/13


\\As I recall, the pharisees were frustrated by the same situation when the crowds flocked to Jesus and didn't attend the synagogues to hear them preach doubt and unbelief. \\

There's nothing in the NT that says that those who went to hear Jesus abandoned attending the Synagogues.

There's nothing in the NT saying the rabbis preached "doubt and unbelief."

Considering there were only 125 who were still praying in the Upper Room on Pentecost (out of over 500 who saw the Risen Jesus, Matthew says that some doubted what they saw at the moment of His Ascension), draw your own conclusions about how popular Jesus was at the time.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/15/13


As I recall, the pharisees were frustrated by the same situation when the crowds flocked to Jesus and didn't attend the synagogues to hear them preach doubt and unbelief.

---jan4378 on 12/6/12

Jesus quoted scripture that witnessed him. Jesus actually healed the sick. Jesus miracles were really miracles.
The mega church attendee's today believe that numbers can't be wrong. But the path is wide to destruction and narrow to Christ.

The formula is simple for truth. Ask the one that can reveal. Seek it. Few do. Truth is not popular, except for those who crave it with all their being.
Matthew 7:8
For every one that asketh receiveth, and he that seeketh findeth, and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
---Trav on 5/15/13




There is no relationship between the number of people in a church, and the teaching of truth
---francis on 5/12/13


jerry, you are right about the mega churches. they entertain first and play God second, they preach what the people want to hear and that is give to the church and God will give back to you. now I believe that statement but my pastor hardly ever says anything or anything about money.
---shira4368 on 5/11/13


It occurs to me that rock concerts also draw large crowds, and likely play similar genres of music.

If these megachurch preachers were to teach the truth of the Bible, and admonish their congregations to keep ALL of God's Ten Commandments, then you would see thier membership diminish rapidly. Most people aren't interested in personal righteousness, they just want entertainment.




---jerry6593 on 4/30/13


Well....I can say in todays mindset, if Jesus came to preach, a few would show up. Some of them out of curiosity. My church is an old time church. We are not modern and we aren't money hungry. We don't entertain anyone and our pastor has time to visit everyone who is sick or need an encouraging word. Mega churches are so big, the people never get to know each other.
---shira4368 on 4/29/13


nanny on 11/8/12
Rob

What about the 100 person church that has not changed in 20 years. That reveals in the "We do nothing wrong" and are proud about it. They make the "church system" their god and not God their God. Some of them are so filled with hate they cannot see a move of God. I am not talking about Westboro.
---Scott1 on 4/29/13


Your question makes the assumption that the size of a church has something to do with the authenticity of the gospel they preach. I am persuaded to believe that when a person hears the true gospel of the kingdom that person will, with joy, give up everything they know to gain access to the kingdom. I dont see what the size of the group has to do with it at all. If I were to go by the standard that this question supposes I wouldnt even follow Jesus. Remember he preached to large groups as well.He even fed one group when he finished preaching. As I recall according to that particular text there was 5,000 present and that was just counting the men.
---LLawson on 4/29/13


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As I recall, the pharisees were frustrated by the same situation when the crowds flocked to Jesus and didn't attend the synagogues to hear them preach doubt and unbelief.
---jan4378 on 12/6/12


nanny, you are so right in what you said,

"Mega churches give the unsaved and self-serving a place to hide and run to. These people are looking to be entertained and socialize, not to serve God in any real way.Devil-worshippers."

I'm also glad you did not include the saved together with the others. In big churches people can get lost in there to the point they can go when they want and no one will notice. It makes them feel good they went and go home feeling great. Many go for the entertainment of music, and others to get charged up. During the week they feel they are discharge and need a jump. But I don't believe you needed to say devil worshippers. Don't give him room in your conversations.
---Mark_V. on 11/9/12


Mega churches give the unsaved and self-serving a place to hide and run to. These people are looking to be entertained and socialize, not to serve God in any real way.Devil-worshippers.
---nanny on 11/8/12


why?

it is written.

why do you take offense?
---aka on 11/3/12


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Hey'remembering long time ago I saw a sign at a church as you enter "please be quiet the holy spirit is

attending this morning"..
---ELENA on 11/2/12


elena, I can agree with you about the music. my group sang once in a church and when we drove up and got out of our cars, we could hear the boogie music. I knew instantly it was going to be a long night. I refuse to go back there ever. however, the teens seemed to like us a lot so guess some good came out of it.
---shira4368 on 11/2/12


Hello,Shira4368,, going to meet with some pastors a church,not hugs but I have seen they have a real reverence. For the music of God and there are also,older folks there. I have been there years ago,but now,they welcome me,and I want to show them,the type of music,that.I.love to.play for the lord.I have been some years ago,to such a huge church young people dancing all.over like bailarina stuff and about 5 people was like they was at "the club!' And recall it was a big occassion and the head Pastor said "from now on,there will be No more of that in here! You all act like. In the nightclub! or on something!" But,sure. Not the spirit of God!..
they never did that no more,my friends were members.
---ELENA on 11/1/12


I visited a church in round rock texas and the kids were dancing all over the church. one teen was dressed to represent Jesus and he walked around all over the church touching people on the head. what a display of getting pumped up. they had their rock band going and many said they could feel the Holy Spirit but I can tell you there was no Holy Spirit there. When the Holy Spirit makes His presense known, there is no doubt who it is but God is not into all this entertainment that was displayed that day.
---shira4368 on 11/1/12


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Pat, sinners in Scripture are considered lost. They are spiritually separated from God. Though God is Omnipresent yet the Bible tells us He does not hear sinners prayers,
(John 9:31) "Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him He heareth." (KJV)

Isa 59:1-2 "Behold, the LORD's hand is not shortened, that it cannot save, neither his ear heavy, that it cannot hear: But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear." (KJV)
the reason why it is not possible:

(Rom 3:10-11) "As it is written, ..... there is none that seeketh after God." (KJV)
---Mark_V. on 10/31/12


Some of those preachers are saved. However, you need to know this: God trains His people differently. We all have our special calling. If you are not sure, instead of judging them, you would be best to just ask God. [only for the saved]. Because, the only prayer God will listen to from a sinner, is a sinner's prayer. And He initiates that.
---pat on 10/28/12


Bro.Mark,you are 100% my friends saw Peter Poppoff . He promise this man from Georgia, Poppoff promise he got "special healing "for sure,he wouldn't even acknowledge the guy! sold his car,jewelry, give$ $to Poppoff,told he prayed for lots. of people,. I heard him ask how much did he bring? I sat by the lady help with the money. The guy went to him,told him crying,please help me! Poppoff,told him get a free pen." We can't. Stay Detroit, the hotel / complaint. We got to leave". I noticed , people he prayed for "was his entorage of folks"actors,they told me and my friend they got paid every night,then they split the money. we quit brother with them. Mark God. Bless you.
---ELENA on 10/27/12


Shira, you are so right. People flock towards this false teachers mainly because they are looking for a spiritual experience. They are going through difficulties in marriage, or along, or the churches they attend are boring to them. When they hear this guys, they get pump-up and believe they are getting a spiritual experience from God. The teachers have words that pertain specially to their needs and problems, and they promise them great miracles if they only support their teachings. If the miracle don't happen it was because the person did not have enough faith, the reason they didn't give more. If they hold back on their money, they have no faith, so no miracle. They even start with the music to get you going.
---Mark_V. on 10/27/12


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all the tv preachers I have watched.(just to see what they say). preach a prosperity gospel. it amazes me that thousands flock to their churches and give millions to these so called preachers. most want to be entertained but most are like dead mens bones.
---shira4368 on 10/26/12


I know that Joel Olsteen is a man of God. God says, "He is just grossley misunderstood".
---pat on 10/25/12

Wow, you speak for God now?
---Jed on 10/26/12


My lord,wow! This is like horrible,Kenneth Copeland if I remember correct he was alcoholic had just got married,they could not even afford an apt. And I remember he so called got saved! And God gave them apt. ,job,house, blasphemy if you ask me,that is like a nightmare.God must be cringing,hear him Defame and talk Lies openly on Tv about God,my lord! I believe the lord will say. depart. from me you worker of igniquity! Wow! I think now,so I am glad I can not see television Rob, I am legally blind,so. I do not have a. Televisin. You know I tell you family, many people did not like me be on here,I stood my ground,God sent me CNT when. I was in the hospital having Chemo,I was mess with fon,I found CNT! Thankyou, JESUS.
---ELENA on 10/25/12


Hello,bro.Rob,my lord that is wicked and scary,for years,a long time God forgive me,ignorant as I was sending faithfully to Kenneth Copeland and Kenneth Hagin. One time,somebody wrote me to not send no more to Paula White, they had choice things to say about her. Which, I will not repeat.A lady one time gave me a book,now I remember she was the one wrote about "the Jezebel spirit".
It was a creepy book. I got scared and gave it back and quit going to that church not much long after that.you all are right! Read the bible for yourself and pray! Thankyou, all of you on here. Love of JESUS!
---ELENA on 10/25/12


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Pat, while being interviewed on live television, Joel Olsteen repeatedly denied and rejected Christ as being the only way to God.

Kenneth Copeland says God is the biggest failure in the history of the world.

How can these men be men of God, 2 Corinthians Chapter Eleven, and 2 Peter Chapter Two?
---Rob on 10/25/12


AMEN to that ! We threw them (televanglists) into the trash several years ago! Study the Bible for yourself, and allow the Holy Spirit to guide you! P.S. Don't forget to Pray!
---J_Marc on 10/25/12


Hello,to follower of Christ,wow! you put it well, "they operarate. like the country club,without the country club price...still get the religious tax brakes. It is sad,because really there are people who are sick,or old lonely,they prey upon sick,old and people who are lonely. I THROW IT ALL IN THE TRASH,NOW! them Tel- Evangelists. Thankyou, ELENA
---ELENA on 10/25/12


Matt 7:15-19 "Beware of false prophets (teachers) , who come to you in sheeps clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You shall know them by their fruit. ---" We must pray and study to make sure that we have scripture and the Holy Spirit to weed out these wolves out of our lives!
---J_Marc on 10/25/12


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I know that Joel Olsteen is a man of God. God says, "He is just grossley misunderstood". And I believe that Kenneth Copeland is, too. We can not judge anything by the amount of people attending the services. Many are lost. And we each have our own callings. God gives His anointing, some are greater than others [anointing]. Has very little to do with how many are in attendance.
---pat on 10/25/12


Hello,thankyou bro.Rob, tell you one time, I be up all night see if any could get a prayer for me, incident I Recall T.D.James son got trouble, issues with a man and T.D.Jakes went into hiding . I was sick,desperate Not. Joel Olsteen,nor T.D.Jakes answer my letters .That guy you mention,sorry but I do not Remember,I quit watch Creflo Dollar Long Time ago! I believe even then A false Prophet,why was he threaten this guy? Probably knew Too much? thanks,ELENA.
---ELENA on 10/25/12


TD Jakes and Joel Olsteen are not ministers of God!

These men sell their own material and make a fortune off of God by using a few lines in holy scripture. I believe mega churches work because they operate like country clubs without the country club price, toss in a few lines from the bible and these businesses get the religious tax break too.
---Follower_of_Christ on 10/24/12


Elena, do you remember when Ruben Armstrong and his family had to go into hiding because Crefflo Dollar threatened to have them killed?
---Rob on 10/24/12


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Family,this ELENA, very sad and shock and I pray for the family, the man who was asasinated in the megachurch,officiated by pastor creflo Dollar.Myself,have only been to such huge megachurch.back.in 1992 when a friend invited me to see and hear Pastor Morris Cerrillo,we stayed for hours. my prayers go out to them,regardless certainly,myself do not like huge churches,but,we must be in prayer,satan is busy,and so,we must stay in an attitude,gratitude,honor to God and be very cautious,don't take nothing for granted.God give strength,help.in this hour to those people there. Love of JESUS!
---ELENA on 10/24/12


Francis, what in the world are you talking about? you said,

I never said the congregations of God are small or big. I never spoke of the congregations. Not one time. ---Mark_V. on 3/17/12

You missed the context of the posts. If you look at the post in context then you will get it
---francis on 3/17/12


Francis, what in the world are you talking about? you said,

"To say that little flock means that the true congregations of God must be small or little and cannot be that of a mega church is outrageous"

I never said the congregations of God are small or big. I never spoke of the congregations. Not one time. I was speaking concerning the passages. you do make something out of nothing. Why? I really don't know. God's congregation can be small or big. Most likely the small ones are better. In the big ones you can get lost in them. And most that are big is because the church is giving the people what they want. Catering to their needs, instead of presenting the Truth. If they present the Truth most will leave.
---Mark_V. on 3/17/12


Why do you not accept the facts?
---Mark_V. on 3/17/12
he called them a little flock because he was affectionate towards them.

To say that little flock means that the true congregations of God must be small or little and cannot be that of a mega church is outrageous

1 Chronicles 23:5 Moreover four thousand [were] porters, and four thousand praised the LORD with the instruments which I made, [said David], to praise [therewith].

The musicians alone were FOUR THOUSAND so image the size of that congregation/ flock

By bible standard our churches are not MEGA
---francis on 3/17/12


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francis, you are still making something out of nothing. Now you ask me if it applies to us? We were talking about the interpretation of Scripture not how it applies to us. When we read Scripture, the idea is to read the meaning God wanted to convey through His Word. Not our meaning but His meaning. In order to do that we have to read the context of the passages.
When Jesus said My little flock, He was not talking to all believers in the future. He was talking to the 12 disciples. he wanted us to know He was not speaking to the world but to the 12.
Why do you not accept the facts?
---Mark_V. on 3/17/12


---Mark_V. on 3/16/12

he called them a little flock because he was affectionate towards them.

let me prove it to you

Does the text also apply to us today?

Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

Is god our father, and will god give us the kingdom or is the kingdom only for a small group?
---francis on 3/16/12


francis, you are making something out of nothing. Luke 12:32 is talking about the 12 disciples, they were a small flock.
Galatians 4:19 is talking about the Galatians and Paul for the first and only time uses the words "my little children" it was an effectionate phrase which John uses frequently ( 1 John 2:1,18,28: 3:7,18: 4:4: 5:21).
---Mark_V. on 3/16/12


Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

I am not sure that " little" here referrs to size.

Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Nor do I believe " little" here referrs to age

I rather think it refers to the tenderness and gentleness with with the speaker views his congregation.
---francis on 3/16/12


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francis, you are splitting hairs with the word "little." You know what it means in the context of Jesus words in Luke 12:32). Why do you confuse the word "little"? Jesus had a small flock. They were not thousands of disciples, there was only 12. (V. 22) tells us Jesus was speaking to the disciples.
"Then He said to His disciples, 'therefore I say to you..." and went on to say, (V. 32) "Do not fear, little flock, it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom"
---Mark_V. on 3/16/12


little has the SAME definition in Holy Scripture as it does in websters
---Rhonda on 3/14/12

REALLY
John 13:33 Little children, yet a little while I am with you. Ye shall seek me: and as I said unto the Jews, Whither I go, ye cannot come, so now I say to you.

Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

does this sound like a little flock:
Revelation 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands
---francis on 3/15/12


Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

I am not sure that " little" here referrs to size.
*****

ahhh a sweet opinion however Holy Scripture states many are called FEW are chosen

does your NEW definition of "little" agree with "few" or do you have a NEW definition for few as well?

the DANGER of creating NEW definitions for words in Holy Scripture allows one to ADD ideas that are not found in the words inspired by GOD ...as YOU chose to do with your opinion

an opinion is not the same as the TRUTH found in Holy Scripture

little has the SAME definition in Holy Scripture as it does in websters
---Rhonda on 3/14/12


Hello,family,can't resist,got tell was at 1time married to pastor who did not live holy life! Not even close,yet some folks got saved thru his preaching.so,the word is powerfull .God is real!
---ELENA on 3/14/12


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Rob, as Mark E said, we were warned this would happen. Most people go to church because it makes them feel religious. Most like to get pumped-up or ( jump started) what they lost through the week, either with a lot of music or a lot of religious talk. If there is less music, less members go. The word is important but the Word cannot get them pumped-up. I heard a pastor say that the music is so important to get the people in the right state of mind, so their music was an hour and the service of God's Word, thirty minutes. The bigger the band the more the people. But lets not forget, Christ is present when genuine believers are present. The believer brings Christ into the buildings, if there is no believers, there you will see an empty building.
---Mark_V. on 3/7/12


Luke 12:32 Fear not, little flock, for it is your Father's good pleasure to give you the kingdom.

I am not sure that " little" here referrs to size.

Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,

1 John 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:

Nor do I believe " little" here referrs to age

I rather think it refers to the tenderness and gentleness with with the speaker views his congregation
---francis on 3/7/12


There is no relationship between church or congregational size and sound doctrine
*****

not according to Christ who stated HIS church is a LITTLE flock
Luke 12:32

Christ WARNED many would come in HIS name teaching from the doctrines of men which is why True Believers understand where the MASSES are Christ is not there


Joel Osteen is simply a mega-motivational speaker who uses the IRS tax code for a church there is no "sound doctrine" from Joel or rcc for that matter seeing rcc IS mega "church" that teaches another doctrine and is aligned with governments of the world and its vatican is a sovereign state
---Rhonda on 3/6/12


There is no relationship between church or congregational size and sound doctrine
---francis on 3/5/12


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Joel Osteen does not have a church and no church with thousands of members is a church that has Christ in it

Christ said his flock is a LITTLE FLOCK

Joel Osteen is more in line with being a prosperity coach than a minister ...he simply USES Holy Scripture for profit and throws in a few Scriptures to get his IRS tax deduction

the IRS does not police how well a minister is actually TEACHING from Holy Scripture

from his tv appearances his smile is creepy his presence is superficial ...a true minister of personal gain, his personal fame, and personal FORTUNE

his pearly whites almost scream cha-ching ..empty smooth syrupy sermons are void of GODS truth
---Rhonda on 3/2/12


My little church has about 75 members and some have told my pastor if he would change the way he preaches, they would attend. Mega churches want to draw a crowd and they do. People just want to be entertained in church. When the preacher starts preaching hell, Blood of Christ then the crowds dissappear. I have listened to a couple of those fellows and they do not preach salvation, the Blood or hell.
---shira4368 on 3/2/12


\\So who is Jesus is he God. (Immanuel means God with us).
A lunatic - crazy person which Bible does not show
A liar - Because Jesus claimed to be God and received worship which would be sin if he was not God.
---Scott1 on 1/17/12\\

While Jakes is clearly teaching the ancient heresy of Sabellian modalism, the Son has the same OUSIA (usually rendered "nature" or "essence") as the Father.

Trinitarian theology, however, cannot be adequately discussed in 125 words, so I won't bother.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/29/12


Nicely put Larry. A church with 100 people and has a staff of 1 or 2 people CAN (notice I said CAN) be about that person on staff. A "mega church" (hate that term) which has a staff of a 100 people or so has to be more diverse and less about the senior pastor and can recieve wisdom from many people about kids, planning service, logistics, media, youth, etc. But anything can happen when pride gets infront of mission.
---Scott1 on 1/17/12


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God is not three manifestations of one entity. That is modality.
---aka on 1/15/12

So who is Jesus is he God. (Immanuel means God with us).
A lunatic - crazy person which Bible does not show
A liar - Because Jesus claimed to be God and received worship which would be sin if he was not God.
---Scott1 on 1/17/12


//Please give specific examples where they deviate from the Bible.// scott1


T. D. Jakes:
"God--There is one God, Creator of all things, infinitely perfect, and eternally existing in three Manifestations: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit."

God is not three manifestations of one entity. That is modality.
---aka on 1/15/12


The question makes pronouncements on doctrine, individuals and uses sweeping generalities which are by definition false.
Some mega-churches started out small and either revival fell or a dynamic preacher is at the center. Others had no plans to be large and are preaching the gospel.
Olsteen may not preach heavy doctrine and may not be my cup of tea but decisions have been made for Christ through his ministry. And for that I praise the Lord.
Jakes is spot on and uses sound biblical teaching to free many from bitterness and anger which prevents God from working freely in their lives.
---larry on 1/15/12


Their are plenty of small churches that are spiritually dead and a mega-church is only too large if you are not involved.
What is the difference if a small or large church sends a mission to Mexico or the Appalachians?
Use the discernment God gave you through biblical standards such as outreach.
---larry on 1/15/12


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The mega even some of the 100 members churches. The mega Are telling the people lies & the money comes in, & some pastors are being paid to be lied to. The 100 member churches, pastor not wanting a BIG congregation, they still tell lies to the people for money, still even those that pay to be lied to. They both teach some from the Bible, but what suits them. Most of these churches Are The Man - made here, Rev.17 v's 4 - 6 beginning with the r c c.
---Lawrence on 1/13/12


Do a search for Olsteen on Oprah and see what he has to say about certain people going to heaven. Can't use the word because this site rejects comments using some words. It was shocking to me that those blatant sinners are going to be in heaven according to Joel.
---KarenD on 1/11/12


Scott1, you will see these people don't preach from the Bible, but they teach VAIN PHILOSOPHY.

Kenneth Copeland said Christ dying on the cross for our sins,was not a big deal, because he (Kenneth Copeland) is a God and could have done the very same thing.

T.D. Jakes said the people of God are to be walking in darkness.

Joel Olsteen repeatedly rejected Christ as being the only way to God.
---Rob on 1/11/12


BECAUSE THEY'RE ANTICHRISTS!

Preaching Pre-Trib Heresies to Psuedo Bourgoise Carnals so called "Christians"

Who 1st APPROVE(AKA: Making a decision for) of Jesus, then do the 1 minute "get out of hell" sinners prayer ticket. These Synagogs of Satan fill up and make tons of money$$$ tickling the ears of these phonies who do NOT want to suffer for Christ. They just want their "Afterlife Insurance" and go home in their Buicks to their Earthly material world.

Pair of Dockers/Starbucks coffee and ofcourse "Praise Music" which is neither!

Exactly Like the Plush Easy-Living Luxurious lives Apostles had after they met Christ!

WHEN YOU MARRY THE WORLD/YOU DIVORCE THE CHRIST!!!
---John on 1/10/12


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It's those "itching ears" at work again.
---KarenD on 1/9/12


People especially non-christians do not care about the trinity or Jesus as high priest. They care about my family member just died does God care, or how do I teach my child effectively, or I just got layed off from work and cannot pay bills and need encouragement. Many pastors use this as a starting point to teach the Biblical truth. Paul taught this way. He made a connection to the people then proved his point with scripture. Following Jesus as Savior is simple it was the Pharisees and others who tried to complicate it with flowers, laws, rules and regulations. Many church people want pastors to tell them something confusing so they do not have to do anything about it. Please give specific examples where they deviate from the Bible.
---Scott1 on 1/9/12


//doing works of evangelism and they think they're doing God's will when indeed they're just doing works.//

Works for salvation is bad. Works because you love God is good. The parable of the talents is an example. Master (God) gave a talent to the servants (us) to use for his glory in being a channel to bring more people into salvation and eternal life.
---Scott1 on 1/9/12


The numbers of people do not matter so much as the content of the preaching. If the leaders of these mega churches would preach the truth of "repentance from sin" and "God will judge the sinner" and "the reality of hell" and "living holy", rather than flatter the audience with "feel good" speaches, then they might (or might not) not have the large numbers of people come and give money in their offering plates. The true gospel of "repentance onto salvation" may not be so popular with the populace today, but nonetheless it will truly save and completely change the soul whom does it.
---Eloy on 1/9/12


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Rob,

Why is it that you don't understand? We have already been told this would happen by no less than Jesus and the Apostles.

Matt 24:10-12 "At that time many will fall away and will betray one another and hate one another. Many false prophets will arise and will mislead many. Because lawlessness is increased, most peoples love will grow cold"

2 Tim 4:3 "For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but wanting to have their ears tickled, they will accumulate for themselves teachers in accordance to their own desires"

Also, I attend a church that has 2500-3000 attending each Sunday and our doctrine is sound. What do you think of that?
---Mark_Eaton on 1/9/12


Because the devil has the mega churches "busy fellowshipping with each other" and out there doing works of evangelism and they think they're doing God's will when indeed they're just doing works.
---anon on 1/9/12


That's because Christ's prophesy MUST be fulfilled in the Day of the Lord or Judgement Day as it is known.

"Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat." Matthew 7:13
---christan on 1/9/12


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