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FACT/TRUTH, is totally pure of fiction & supports itself whether or not we understand or believes it. TRUTH is like oil in water. It always rises to the surface (the top)!

---Leon on 1/19/12


Really, Jesus said I AM the TRUTH. What was His opinion of FABLES?
2 Timothy 4:4
And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.
2 Peter 1:16
For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of his majesty.

Leon you are full of nonsense. Not a word of TRUTH in you!
---kathr4453 on 1/19/12


\\About your difficulty believing in talking snakes, we have one in the USA. He's our president.


---jerry6593 on 1/18/12\\

Acts 23:5
Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/19/12


Just love it when someone gives a perfectly sound answer and they get accused of giving nothing.

The Seg and Kathr have made a valid point.

For though wast perfect from the day thou wast created til iniquity was found in thee

They were perfect and fell. That had nothing to do with man. The whole creation is fallen.
---JackB on 1/19/12


"EXCUSE ME LEON!! The ONLY imagination going on here is yours Leon...You have no Idea who teh Saints are, or teh Body of Christ is, or that ALL things were created by Him and FOR HIM who is the Head of the New Creation...., not just your planet/star KOLOB. All your nonsense is NEW AGE teaching.
---kathr4453 on 1/19/12

Warning: Watch any of the Star Trek series and/or X-Files, you will see that this is true! Most Hollywood movies or television series about science fiction and space exploration are built on the premises of the New Age movement. Many who watch these shows end up buying the lies they promote!
---kathr4453 on 1/19/12"


Your rants further demonstrated you are indeed a bladder full of hot air!
---Leon on 1/19/12


Definition of OMNIPRESENT: present in all places at all times.

So MarkV, are you saying you don't believe God is Omnipresent?

If the WHOLE CREATION groans today, exactly what part of WHOLE don't you understand.

Do you need teh definition of WHOLE?

Or are you doubting God's word that WHOLE means the WHOLE of His Created works, but only some of His created works.

And you want to know WHY the whole creation has come under condemnation? Or are you saying Jesus will only be head of SOME of the whole of the New Creation? Just like you think SOME of your old flesh is acceptable to God?


MarkV, you really do doubt teh SOVEREIGNTY of God and once again LIMIT HIM to your own understanding.
---kathr4453 on 1/19/12




No MarkV, AS USUAL you have brought no scripture here to back up anything, yet both I and others and The Seg have. YOU are disputing those verses we brought by saying we have brought no scripture.

How can anyone have an honest conversation with you, if you continue to LIE, or just fail to understand scripture at all.

WE already showed you scripture MarkV...what more do you want? An Augument... right? It only shows you are not SOUND and grounded in the Lord! What evidence or scriptures has Leon brought here? Yet you pander to him?

GET thee behind me satan!
---kathr4453 on 1/19/12


TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN: All fiction is based, to some degree, on facts. Fiction/fables draw strength from (depend upon) & can't exist without a liberal sprinkling of facts. However, fiction "unchecked", can get so close to fact it will deceptively appear to also be "fact". (Gen. 3)

FACT/TRUTH, is totally pure of fiction & supports itself whether or not we understand or believes it. TRUTH is like oil in water. It always rises to the surface (the top)!

p.s. Unlike Mitt Romney & John Huntsman, I'm not a follower of the spurious teachings of the fabled angel Moroni Kathr. :)
---Leon on 1/19/12


Leon, please, Im not wise or anything.
But on 1/19/12, you said:
Where does Omnipresent, "intelligent" God say in the Bible that "His universe" is ours Kathr?
For all things are yours! 1Co 3:21-23, all things, is everything.

But Leon, hold up a minute, just to be sure.
Does God need the universe for himself?
Do the angels in heaven need it?
What about Satan and his? Did God make it for them?
There another place made for them, right!
Which leaves man, so was the universe made for man?
Everything God has done has been done for man.
So, yes this universe was made for man.
But, only till the time of the end.
So, it too is on a clock!
God bless, Bros.
---TheSeg on 1/19/12


Kathr, as usual you again make a lot of statments with no context of any passage. just a lot of talk. I gave ( Romans 8:21) And the passage says,
"Because the creation itself also will be delievered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God"
It does not say "heaven" or "heavens." It say's creation, and God created all things. And it is in bondage to corruption. Why is the creation in bondage to corruption? How is the creation in bondage be delievered to the children of God? Don't just talk alot answer with Scripture.
---Mark_V. on 1/19/12


It would do you well to heed only sound Bible teaching & turn away from your fable filled imagination.
---Leon on 1/19/12


EXCUSE ME LEON!! The ONLY imagination going on here is yours Leon.

That's the funniest thing I've heard all week! What a joke!

You have no Idea who teh Saints are, or teh Body of Christ is, or that ALL things were created by Him and FOR HIM who is the Head of the New Creation...., not just your planet/star KOLOB.

All your nonsense is NEW AGE teaching.
---kathr4453 on 1/19/12




Warning: Watch any of the Star Trek series and/or X-Files, you will see that this is true! Most Hollywood movies or television series about science fiction and space exploration are built on the premises of the New Age movement. Many who watch these shows end up buying the lies they promote!
---kathr4453 on 1/19/12


You asked me, if it's man's fault.
The angels, were they perfect? Some fell!
So, then nothing was made perfect, before Christ!
And so many are still waiting!
Peace, Mark
---TheSeg on 1/18/12

TheSeg,GREAT ANSWER! AMEN.

AND nothing will be perfect until the NEW Heavens and earth of which Jesus Christ is HEAD and creator of teh NEW Heavens and earth.

Scripture doesn't say universe, it says HEAVEN"S", as in PLURAL.
---kathr4453 on 1/19/12


Ephesians 4:10
He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heaven(s), that he might fill all things.
Ephesians 4:9-11

Oh and yes, here is scripture to back up my last statement agreeing with The Seg!.

So NO heaven is not here on earth markv. God's Throne is far ABOVE all HEAVENS..PLURAL, that HE...CHRIST may fill ALL THINGS.
---kathr4453 on 1/19/12


"The Bible does not teach that intelligent life exists elsewhere in our universe...Any TRUE Elect should KNOW this truth.
---kathr4453 on 1/18/12"


Where does Omnipresent, "intelligent" God say in the Bible that "His universe" is ours Kathr? As usual you speak great swelling words of nonsense that amount to no more than a bladder full of hot air. You know not that YOU KNOW NOT the truth. It would do you well to heed only sound Bible teaching & turn away from your fable filled imagination.
---Leon on 1/19/12


//... was the whole of this huge universe infected because of Adam & Eve's sin?
---alan_8869_of_UK on 1/18/12 //

No! The Bible is clear that Satan is the author of sin, it is he and his demons that tempt us to sin. The Bible also records that after the warfare in heaven, one third of the angels (Satan's whole army) were cast out of heaven to the EARTH (Rev 12:4).


---jerry6593 on 1/19/12


The Seg, you misunderstood my response. Here it is.
You responded to me and said Kathr was right. You did not say how she was right on the passage she gave, no explanation whatso ever for me to answer to.

So what I did was give you one back with no explanation just like you did. I wanted to show you that if you disagree with something I said, tell me in an explanation. Just writing a passage with no context to why you wrote it and how I was wrong gives me nothing to answer to.
You are right, God did say after creating it was good. Not great. My question to you was why He said it was good, when the passage say the creation is in bondage. Was it because of man's sin? At least I asked a question you didn't.
---Mark_V. on 1/19/12


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Mark, it's not as I say, you've read genesis.
There it is "that it was good"
I think it was the "Hello" you added!

You want me to explain why kathr, is right.
Why, did kathr write it there?

Instead of asking me why kathr right, what would it mean if kathr wrong.
Kathr got it out of the bible.

You added:
Because the creation itself also will be delievered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
You got this from the bible too!
Is this wrong too?

You asked me, if it's man's fault.
The angels, were they perfect? Some fell!
So, then nothing was made perfect, before Christ!
And so many are still waiting!
Peace, Mark
---TheSeg on 1/18/12


The Seg, you ask me questions about creation, and totaled them down for me, then you say Kathr is right and throw me a passage from (Rom. 8:22) to confirm she is right, you give no context as to how you and her are right.
So I write back and give you the passage right before,(v.21) with no context and ask you why the universe and galaxies have to be delivered from the bondage of corruption, when God said what He created was good as you say. But you don't answer my question, but instead put down (Rom. 3:23). We no explanation. Are you suggesting "all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God" means people in other planets also? At least make an effor to show me where you and Kathr are right and the reason you answered to me.
---Mark_V. on 1/18/12


The Bible does not teach that intelligent life exists elsewhere in our universe. Although our all-powerful God could have created such life had He desired, it seems rather obvious from Scripture that He did not. The timetable for this present universe is measured by God's dealings with us. It appears that God has created the human race, on the planet called Earth, as the sole beneficiary of His fellowship. This fellowship is of such a unique design that we are told that God's only true extra-terrestrial creations, angels are eager to observe it in action. It is our privilege to be the center of attention in our vast and wonder-filled universe.

Any TRUE Elect should KNOW this truth.
---kathr4453 on 1/18/12


Mark, as your first statement of 1/14/12 is clear.
TheSeg, for me it is not hard. I really don't think about life in other planets now unless I see some story on the paper about a UFO.

Did I ask about life on other planets! You would add, Hello here, right!
I asked is everything part of creation. And I have, what I think is an answer. Yes, right!

Im glad you added:
"Because the creation itself also will be delievered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God."

Again, I have never talked about Adam & Eve's sin.
And when did God say, great? He said good!
Then Christ said there is none good but one!
2Pe_2:11, Peace
---TheSeg on 1/18/12


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Thanks Mark ~ I agree! Just like a certain ethnic group living on earth think life here is all about (centers on) them, some of the same people think all of creation (past, present & future) also centers around mankind. This is arrogant & vain, but supported by folk who're afraid to see God's bigger picture. Their narrow-minded views are as distorted as the flat-earthers a few centuries ago & as inaccurate as those who once thought the sun revolved around the earth.

The Bible speaks about creation "in the beginning" of earthly beings "only". To assume Creator God made us before anything else & to think sin in the earth realm has had a profound impact on the entire, ever-expanding, universe is crazy.
---Leon on 1/18/12


An interesting point!
If the wholes universe is as we are told by the scientists ... millions of galaxies, each with millions of stars ...

... was the whole of this huge universe infected because of Adam & Eve's sin?
---alan_8869_of_UK on 1/18/12


//Easier than believing in talking snakes.
---atheist on 1/16/12 //

Big A. Good to have you back.

About your difficulty believing in talking snakes, we have one in the USA. He's our president.


---jerry6593 on 1/18/12


The Seg, I did not say there was people in other planets, only that I know why he ask the question. Hello?
Second, other planets have nothing to do with this planet. It is like Mexico a planet and America another. If someone from Mexico comes here they are aliens. You also say,
"For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now." verse (21) says,
"Because the creation itself also will be delievered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God." The whole creation is in bondage to corruption. You tell me? why is it in bondage to corruption? When God said everything was great? Did man sin corrupt the Universe, and galaxies?
---Mark_V. on 1/18/12


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Mark_V

If there were, a planet more than 28 billion light years away, would it be part of creation?
What about a planet in some other universe in some other dimension, would it also be part of creation?
Now, can anything exist outside of God creation?
Then everything that exists is creation?

Then what kathr4453 pointed to, is right! As written:
For we know that the whole creation groaneth and travaileth in pain together until now.
And not only they, but ourselves also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.

Life out there, I know not!
But, Rom_3:23!
---TheSeg on 1/17/12


Leon, it's not hard to understand what your trying to say. Hey, there is many things we can wonder but we will never know.
One is, If the angels are not from planet earth, they must be from somewhere else, right? At least not from here. When someone is not from the USA we call them "alien's." Illegal if they have no papers, So what are the angels if they are not from here, and what about God who created all things, He is also not from here, for He created all things?
Who knows where Heaven is at? It could be here on earth but we just don't see it. The angelic realm could be also from here. Then they would not be aliens.
So, I understand why it is easy to start mentioning all sorts of things. I don't question any of it.
---Mark_V. on 1/17/12


The Seg, Leon doesn't seem to understand the WHOLE universe includes just that THE WHOLE UNIVERSE.

And SIN is absolutely a factor, since sin entered the UNIVERSE before it entered earth. The WHOLE UNIVERSE including small little earth is goint to be destroyed and a NEW Heaven and earth will come. Unless of coarse Leon wants to Limit God to the star/planet of KOLOB.

THE WHOLE CREATION GROANS...Leon, the WHOLE CREATION is not just planet earth and some small part of heaven??? 3 miles above Mt. Ararat.

Do have a nice day!
---kathr4453 on 1/17/12


Never mind Kathr ~ have a good day! :)
---Leon on 1/17/12


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"And Leon remember Goto 10"

Seq: Huh! Would you care to explain where & why you want me to go? :D
---Leon on 1/17/12


:10
The Bible isn't written to explain life in the entire universe. It deals only with God created life on earth thats "contained" within our solar system "part of heaven", which is part of an even bigger system called a galaxy, which is a very small part of an even larger system called THE UNIVERSE.
Hope this helps your understanding. :)
Leon on 1/17/12

Yes Leon, it does clear it up for me.
Sorry for wasting your time and this space.
And Leon remember Goto 10

The rest of you can read the Bible.
And read for yourselves, if what Leon just said is right!
Also remember, in the bible Christ even talks about a world to come.
Hope this helps your understanding, TOO. :)
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/17/12


Kathr: This blog isn't about humans who reject God. Rather, its talking about the possibility (the likelihood) of Extra-Terrestrials (ETs) living on other planets in God's universe, i.e., alien beings, not of our world (Earth).
---Leon on 1/17/12

Leon, there are more than just humans listed in Heb 12. The General Assembly is God's Angels.

Who says Angels are only of our world. I bet they visit all of creation.

What you see.."The universe" may be nothing more than BLING on God's Low Rider Jeans!
---kathr4453 on 1/17/12


"Leon, does that mean you do or don't have a sense of humor?...We see in Hebrews 12 those who have entrance into the New Heaven,AND NO ALIENS ARE listed!"
---kathr4453 on 1/16/12



ROTFLOL (rolling on the floor laughing out loud). Hmmmm ~ what can that possibly mean Ms. Litella?! :/

Of course there wouldn't be anyone in God's new heaven who, because of unbelief, have alienated (separated) themselves from Him. But, that's a topic for another blog, not this one!

Kathr: This blog isn't about humans who reject God. Rather, its talking about the possibility (the likelihood) of Extra-Terrestrials (ETs) living on other planets in God's universe, i.e., alien beings, not of our world (Earth).
---Leon on 1/17/12


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Seq: For the sake of clarity, when the U.S. dropped nuclear bombs on Japan in WWII, the earth in that region literally shook violently. But, in the rest of the world there was little to no affect from the devastating blasts.

Obviously, you don't understand how the universe is structured into compartments much like our world (the earth) is compartmentalized into continents.

The Bible isn't written to explain life in the entire universe. It deals only with God created life on earth thats "contained" within our solar system "part of heaven", which is part of an even bigger system called a galaxy, which is a very small part of an even larger system called THE UNIVERSE.

Hope this helps your understanding. :)
---Leon on 1/17/12


Thanks kathr4453
But, I'm not saying anything new. I understand how enormous space is.
Even how appealing it would be to find life out there. But the bible doesnt say there life out there.
He only talks about a planet called earth and the life he put there.

So why is space so big?
I think it's so we can see him more clearly. But, that me, right!

Leon, I know, I know anything!
But, if sin applies only to man on earth, why write this?
Whose voice then shook the earth: but now he hath promised, saying, Yet once more I shake not the earth only, but also heaven!

See Leon, there are things in heaven that can be shaken.
Let's remove them.
Peace!
---TheSeg on 1/17/12


That's, I know, I don't know anything!
Yet, I know we are free, all of us.
And let's remove them, is:
Verily I say unto you, If ye have faith, and doubt not, ye shall not only do this which is done to the fig tree, but also if ye shall say unto this mountain, Be thou removed, and be thou cast into the sea, it shall be done.

If ye had faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye might say unto this sycamine tree, Be thou plucked up by the root, and be thou planted in the sea, and it should obey you.

All I'm saying here is one must be sure of his father.
Just as the father is the son!
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/17/12


Leon, does that mean you do or don't have a sense of humor?

The SEG, you are very CLEAR TO ME.

FAITH is based on the Word of God, not the speculation or imagination of men.

Would this fall under " Philosophy and vain deceipt? YES!

We see in Hebrews 12 those who have entrance into the New Heaven,AND NO ALIENS ARE listed!
---kathr4453 on 1/16/12


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For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, And God did rest the seventh day from all his works.
And in this place again, If they shall enter into my rest.
Seeing therefore it remaineth that some must enter therein, and they to whom it was first preached entered not in because of unbelief:
Again, he limiteth a certain day, saying in David, To day, after so long a time, as it is said, To day if ye will hear his voice, harden not your hearts.
For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.

Luk 6:40!
Sorry I'm not clear!
---TheSeg on 1/16/12


While many of you are playing guessing games, let's reason this out using a sample from scripture.

End time prophesies state that there will be a new heaven and a new earth, the old will be destroyed.

Now, let's modify Abraham's questions to God (Genesis 18: 16-33)

And I drew near to God and asked, "Would you destroy the righteous with the wicked? Would you destroy and not spare the universe for ten righteous planets that are therein?"

God replied, "If I find ten righteous planets within the universe, then I will spare all the place for their sakes."
---Steveng on 1/16/12


"...and the alien as well, may be refreshed.
---kathr4453 on 1/16/12"


:D ROTFLOL!!!

You must be kin to Emily Litella Kathr. What an unbelievably far out spin on the subject. :D!!!

---Leon on 1/16/12


francis, only those IN CHRIST, THOSE Born again, born from Above, are given a place higher than the Angels. ---kathr4453 on 1/16/12
You may be right, but can I get two scriptures for that?
---francis on 1/16/12


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Seq: I have no "earthly" idea as to the point you're trying to make. Focus!
---Leon on 1/16/12


Well, it does appear ALIENS also must keep the Law, as well as animals.

Ex 20:8-10
Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath to HaShem your God. On it you shall not do any work, neither you, nor your son or daughter, nor your manservant or maidservant, nor your animals, nor the alien within your gates.

Exodus 23:12
Six days do your work, but on the seventh day do not work, so that your ox and your donkey may rest and the slave born in your household, and the alien as well, may be refreshed.
---kathr4453 on 1/16/12


Easier than believing in talking snakes.
---atheist on 1/16/12


Leon, the term, all of creation!
Does this mean just our universe?
A little more, right?

But, you say:
NO they wouldn't "TheSeg" because "the man" Adam's sin applies only to mankind. His sin had no adverse affect on angels or any other ET lifeforms in the universe.

So then the Word Of God does not transcend time?
At no point have I ever talked, about Adam's sin. Have I?
I'm no teacher, but hear this: Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature!

For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
Peace!
---TheSeg on 1/16/12


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The fourth kingdom "diverse from all kingdoms" (Dan 7:23) Mingling themselves with the seed of men (Dan 2:43). Hollywood and the internet constantly feeding people with "UFOs", "alien" abductions, rumours of the return of our "creators", the annunaki, planet X(nibiru). The lost are being tricked into believing there is LIFE out there OTHER than God that created us.

These creatures are nothing more than demons which can alter their form. They are the spirits of dead offspring which were produced by the union of the "gods" and mortal women (Greek mythology) or as we better know it, the union of the "sons of god"/fallen angels and "daughters of men" (Gen 6).
---CraigA on 1/16/12


I am not sure that one who has / had never sinned is nesesarily higher than the angels
---francis on 1/15/12

francis, only those IN CHRIST, THOSE Born again, born from Above, are given a place higher than the Angels. THIS is who the Church is, Christ Bride, HIS BODY.

THAT alone is the ONLY REASON we will be in a GLORFIED STATE, CREATED "IN CHRIST", a NEW CREATURE. We dont know what we will be, but we know we will be like Him, for we shall see Him as He is. .

EVERYTHING in the Old creation is going to perish, melt away, be destroyed, including any imaginary ET's..
---kathr4453 on 1/16/12


It appears the only reason one wants to believe there is life on other planets etc, is because the universe is so big, ..what a waste of space.

Let me aks you?? a waste of space to WHO? you, or God?

Secondly, the Church is going to JUDGE FALLEN ANGELS at the great white throne....Where Lucifer Himself will stand in Judgement....who was God's HIGHEST CREATED BEING. I see no other creatures being Judged before the new Heaven and Earth comes into place.

SIN effected everything, not just planet earth.
---kathr4453 on 1/16/12


clunity: "This verse was apparently not in Ellen G. White's Bible when she said the people of Saturn were untouched by sin.

Just one more example of how she's a false prophet."


One more time. She never said the word "Saturn". She said "a planet with seven moons". Others interpreted that as "saturn".

Just one more example of how YOU are a false witness.


---jerry6593 on 1/16/12


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francis, one last question to you.

God was FINISHED from all He had created and RESTED from ALL His works on the 7th day. Now this would INCLUDE all other created things(beings) in the univese, correct. If not WHY NOT?



Are ET's also subject to the 7th day Sabbath rest? Do they too not have to enter HIS REST???

Whether you understannd that spiritually or from an earthly perspective, WHO"S SUN then determines evening and morning? Ours? Theirs?

Or are the ET's excluded from God's Sabbath LAW?

Or are you saying there are many Gods, one for each Galaxy, each subject to their own laws amd their god?
---kathr4453 on 1/16/12


"The bigger question seems to be, if there is life on other planets do they fall under sin?"

NO they wouldn't Seq because "the man" Adam's sin applies only to mankind. His sin had no adverse affect on angels or any other ET lifeforms in the universe.

We (humans) only know "life" from our earthly experiences with each other, with animal & plant species ~ with scientific investigations of God's creation & what is given for our understanding in the Bible.

What planets? Do you mean the ones in our solar system or the ones in our entire galaxy (the Milky Way that contains many solar systems) or the ones in other galaxies throughout the ever expanding universe?
---Leon on 1/15/12


Are you suggesting there are other creatures out there higher than the Angels? PERFECT beings....GOD LIKE CREATURES? Creatures equal to God in a state of sinless perfection?
---kathr4453 on 1/14/12

At creation Adam and Eve had not sinned, did that mean that they were higher than the angels?

I am not sure that one who has / had never sinned is nesesarily higher than the angels
---francis on 1/15/12


I gather from some of the answers, most accept life on other planet.
I dont think so anymore. I now believe earth is the only planet with life!
The bigger question seems to be, if there is life on other planets do they fall under sin?
Well, of course they would!

As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:
There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.
They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable, there is none that doeth good, no, not one.
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God.

This makes it clearer Heb_12:26-7
This should be clear even to a Martian!
All of creation!
Peace
---TheSeg on 1/15/12


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Very well said Kathr, very well said.
---larry on 1/15/12


"...any ETs living elsewhere would have been unjustly affected by the Adamic Curse through no fault of their own, they would not have inherited Adams sin nature."

HUH?! You're thinking from a distant region somewhere deep inside the box Kat. "Sin" only applies to human beings, mankind, descendants of Adam (people living on planet earth). Your comments on the matter are too far outlandish to rationally imagine!
---Leon on 1/14/12


The Seg, for me it is not hard. I really don't think about life in other planets now unless I see some story on the paper about a UFO.
God gave us His Word and He did not find it important for us to know about another place other then earth. Yet, as human beings still in the flesh, always wonder of many things God did not mention. It is the human nature in us. Always wondering what we don't know. But the only Truth we really have is His Word, anything we wonder that is not in His Word is never Truth because we have nothing to compare it to. It's all speculation. We know that we are all from earth, but speculation tells us there might be humans walking around who are not who they seem to be. We know angels can manifest themselves as humans.
---Mark_V. on 1/14/12


If there is life on other planets, we do not know whether or not they sinned.

I would suspect that they have not sinned.

---francis on 1/13/12


francis, the HIGHEST beings created right below God are His Holy Angels "WHO SINNED". Are you suggesting there are other creatures out there higher than the Angels? PERFECT beings....GOD LIKE CREATURES? Creatures equal to God in a state of sinless perfection?
---kathr4453 on 1/14/12


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\\The Bible indicates that the whole creation groans and travails under the weight of sin (Romans 8:1822).\\

This verse was apparently not in Ellen G. White's Bible when she said the people of Saturn were untouched by sin.

Just one more example of how she's a false prophet.

Good posts, kathr.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/14/12


Moses taught Israel "The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law." Deuteronomy 29:29

God has revealed to us His Word and warned us not to dwell into matters that is only secret to Him. Going into the "heavens" for answers will most definitely lead one to eternal life. Only Jesus Christ is the way, the truth and life. Nothing else matters if you seek for His Kingdom and righteousness.

Isn't the Holy Bible enough to keep one busy about who God is that one needs to pry into "His secret"? Look what happened to Adam and Eve.
---christan on 1/14/12


God is living, creator, the Word is living and active, and God is omnipresent, the heavens and earth cannot contain Him. In that sense alone, God being life, yes, there is life elsewhere. Beyond that, and knowing Him as Creatorwe shall see
---Chria9396 on 1/14/12


Indeed Kathr. The whole creation is fallen.

Col 1:19,20

For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell, And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself, by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
---JackB on 1/14/12


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God knows. It's about who Jesus is to our Father, not about how many physical stars there are. Number versus quality.
---Bill_willa6989 on 1/14/12


on earth as it is in heaven? there is life here,so there must be life there also?
---kevin5443 on 1/14/12


"The effect of the Curse following Adams Fall was universal. Otherwise what would be the point of God destroying this whole creation to make way for a new heavens and Earth[?]...
Therefore, any ETs living elsewhere would have been unjustly affected by the Adamic Curse through no fault of their own, they would not have inherited Adams sin nature."


HUH?!

Kathr: Where in the Bible does it say Adam's sin was "universal"? Adam's sin affected all of mankind & our earth realm (the solar system) ONLY. It had nothing to do with the rest of the galaxy (the Milky Way) or ETs that could possibly live elsewhere in it & throughout the universe.
---Leon on 1/14/12


The Bible indicates that the whole creation groans and travails under the weight of sin (Romans 8:1822). The effect of the Curse following Adams Fall was universal. Otherwise what would be the point of God destroying this whole creation to make way for a new heavens and Earth
2 Peter 3:13),
Revelation 21:1

Therefore, any ETs living elsewhere would have been unjustly affected by the Adamic Curse through no fault of their own, they would not have inherited Adams sin nature.

The Bible makes no provision for God to redeem any other species, any more than to redeem fallen angels... (Hebrews 2:16).
---kathr4453 on 1/13/12


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When Christ (God) appeared in the flesh, He came to Earth not only to redeem mankind but eventually the whole creation back to Himself (Romans 8:21, Colossians 1:20). However, Christs atoning death at Calvary cannot save these hypothetical ETs, because one needs to be a physical descendant of Adam for Christ to be our kinsman-redeemer (Isaiah 59:20). Jesus was called the last Adam because there was a real first man, Adam (1 Corinthians 15:22,45)not a first Vulcan, Klingon etc. This is so a sinless human Substitute takes on the punishment all humans deserve for sin (Isaiah 53:6,10, Matthew 20:28, 1 John 2:2, 4:10), with no need to atone for any (non-existent) sin of his own (Hebrews 7:27).
---kathr4453 on 1/13/12


You know, I use to be the guy who would say. The proof is in the fact that, we're here!
You know what I mean by this right. Since we're here, life must be out there too.

But, it seems to me these days. The more I try to give glory unto his name.
And it's not because of you or in front of you.
I'm not trying to teach anyone anything. But, to glorify his name!
And I know, if there life out there, it will not change anything!

But, I also see there no life out there, but, only here on earth.
I also hear him saying something like: Just so you will know I am the lord!
Hard to believe isn't it.
---TheSeg on 1/13/12


Since this would mean that any ETs would be lost for eternity when this present creation is destroyed in a fervent heat (2 Peter 3:10, 12), some have wondered whether Christs sacrifice might be repeated elsewhere for other beings. However, Christ died once for all (Romans 6:10, 1 Peter 3:18) on the earth. He is not going to be crucified and resurrected again on other planets (Hebrews 9:26). This is confirmed by the fact that the redeemed (earthly) church is known as Christs bride (Ephesians 5:2233, Revelation 19:79) in a marriage that will last for eternity.3 Christ is not going to be a polygamist with many other brides from other planets.


We are warned those believing strong delusions, as this may be one ...who are DEMONIC spirits.
---kathr4453 on 1/13/12


If there is life on other planets, we do not know whether or not they sinned.

I would suspect that they have not sinned.

Others who believe in UFO's as aliens being would say that they have sinned because they visit earth and die. Death is a result of sin

The one thing we do know, is that the bible contains the plan of redeeption ONLY for the earth.
---francis on 1/13/12


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This question isn't for people who refuse to actively engage their God given minds & think outside the box. Regardless of what many may think, it's not all about us!

We humans, "created" by God, live on a planet that's one of 8 in our solar system. Our solar system is one of many in our galaxy (the Milky Way). The Milky Way is one of an untold number of galaxies in the universe ~ one version of God's "perpetual", never ending creation.

GOD "IS" CREATOR ~ past, present, future: forever n ever!!!

As if we're the prototypical model for all there is, we 3D, carbon-based lifeforms try in vain to define "life". Earth can't be the only planet with God-created life! :)
---Leon on 1/13/12


It's HARDER for me to believe that satan was once one of God's angels, a worshipper and now he hates God so much that he's willing and is going against God and get people to hate each other, not forgive one another, hold grudges, have bitterness, resentment and anger in our hearts towards one another...It's HARD for me to believe he choose that path of life for himself.
---anon on 1/13/12


I think scientists say, yes those awful people, that there are something like 250 billion galaxies and plus. How they get to that number I have not a clue.
Yes I would think there is life. Yet how does that change anything?
We used to think in three dimensions and now there are 11 proven. they cannot go beyond that.
All the time we are growing but we are very young. The more scientists go out to disprove God the more I think they will find him.
---chris on 1/13/12


Even if there are there are beings on other planets capable of moral, spiritual, and intellectual life with rational souls comparable to ourselves, how would that change what God did for us in Christ Jesus?

And if there are other forms of life on other planets, what has changed?

And if there are NOT living beings, NOTHING in our faith has changed.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/13/12


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Seg, interesting way you phrased the question. Belief is easy, since I have no personal experience with life on other planets. :)
---John.usa on 1/13/12


it's not that it is hard, it's that it is not really necessary.
---aka on 1/13/12


"How hard is it, for you to believe earth is the only planet with life" ---TheSeg on 1/12/12
Very. As Jody Foster said in the movie contact when asked if she thought there was life on other planets, "If there is life only on this planet, then the universe is a tremendous waste of space" or something to that effect. I agree.
---Josef on 1/13/12


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