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Why has it become so difficult to find a church which teaches/preaches SOUND BIBLE DOCTRINE in the TRUE CONTEXT which it is written?

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The laws in the new testament is like a home mortgage - the laws are the same, but the terms are different. The new testament laws are even more difficult to obey because they are of a spiritual manner. For example, the OT laws says it is a sin to murder someone, but the NT law, being the same law but on different terms, is that even if you THINK about it, it's a sin.
---Steveng on 2/2/12


Being under the law means you are subject to the punishment for BREAKING the law.

Being under grace means you are not because Christ fulfilled the law perfectly FOR you and then died in your place.

Now we serve the law to honor God and show our love for him and others - not to gain entrance in his kingdom. We've all blown our chances are entering by the law.
---JackB on 2/2/12
I agree with this 100%
I would not say serve the law I would say obey or keep the commandments. But I do agree with that statement!!

---Mark_V. on 2/2/12

By the way may I asked you a question:
What is the difference between keeping the commandments and being under the law?
---francis on 2/2/12


Being under the law means you are subject to the punishment for BREAKING the law.

Being under grace means you are not because Christ fulfilled the law perfectly FOR you and then died in your place.

Now we serve the law to honor God and show our love for him and others - not to gain entrance in his kingdom. We've all blown our chances are entering by the law.
---JackB on 2/2/12


francis, the issue is that you are wasting precious time on something you know you are wrong but your Adventist believes do not want to give up. No one is listening to you to convert to Adventism. Who wants to go under the Law? Only you guys. Everyone else in Christ is free, the law has no hold on us anymore. It kept us in bondage to sin and death, but Christ took care of that for us, and I know you know that, but continue to accuse others of sinning when you and all adventist sin. How silly is that? very legalistic.
---Mark_V. on 2/2/12


francis, you have not written many blog but you have answered thousands concerning the law, and not one concerning the Spirit of the Law. You need to move forward, you are still under the law. ---Mark_V. on 2/2/12

Well If i do not write them, but only answer them what is your issue?

It would seem that your issue would be with those who write them and not with those who answer them.

By the way may I ask you a question:
What is the difference between keeping the commandments and being under the law?
---francis on 2/2/12




francis, you have not written many blog but you have answered thousands concerning the law, and not one concerning the Spirit of the Law. You need to move forward, you are still under the law. How can you ever understand spiritual matters if you are stuck under the Law. In fact you have answered very few concerning other topics. That's why I said what I did. And every time you speak of the law, you accuse others how they want to break the law. A no one says they want to break the law, only that they are not under it anymore. What really gets you all mad is that non-adventist won't follow the law concerning Saturday Sabbath. That is what really has you going, the rest is all smoke and screens.
---Mark_V. on 2/2/12


And Jesus also taught that those who have come to beleive are the ones that have come into the rest of God as typified by the Sabbath.
---lee1538 on 2/1/12

No where in the bible does it teach that
Isaiah 66:22 For as the new heavens and the new earth, which I will make, shall remain before me, saith the LORD, so shall your seed and your name remain.

Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, [that] from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD

To prove you dead wrong AGAIN we have BOTH Jesus and the sabbath in the new heavena nd new earth. If rest in Jesus replaced the sabbath there would be no need for a sabbath in heaven when we have jesus
---francis on 2/2/12


And Jesus also taught that those who have come to beleive are the ones that have come into the rest of God as typified by the Sabbath.

Hebrews 4:3 For we who have believed enter that rest, as he has said, As I swore in my wrath, they shall not enter my rest, although his works were finished from the foundation of the world.

Good sense should tell you that since there is NO command in the NT to observe the Sabbath & that it was NOT taught in the early church, it is obvious that the Apostles & their immediate successors did not teach it.
---lee1538 on 2/1/12


francis, you preach the Old T. law to everyone that every time ---Mark_V. on 2/1/12
TGHANKS
I am in VERY HOOD company

JESUS PREACHED:
Matthew 12:12 it is lawful to do well on the sabbath days.

PAUL PREACHED: Ephesians 6:2 Honour thy father and mother,

JAMES PREACHED: James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one [point], he is guilty of all.

JOHN PREACHED: 1 John 3:4 for sin is the transgression of the law.
---francis on 2/1/12


francis//This is just another post by LEEJ to tell people that they do not have to keep the ten commandments.

More slander from the legalist!

For the Christian ONLY the tenets of the New Covenant are applicable to the Christian. So if it is not in the New covenant, there is no obligation to observe it. (No sabbath command in the NT).

Since Jesus fulfilled the Sabbath rest for those who have believed (Hebrews 4), the Christian need not observe the Jewish Sabbath.

And as much as your would reject what Christ taught in Matthew 15, Mark 7 and Romans 14 there are no food restrictions for the Christian.

Adventists (the children of Hagar) follow the teachings of olde Ellen White, not the Jesus of the Bible.
---lee1538 on 2/1/12




francis, you preach the Old T. law to everyone that every time you see a blog you think people want to teach they should not keep the Ten Commandments. ---Mark_V. on 2/1/12

how many blogs have i written
---francis on 2/1/12


francis, you preach the Old T. law to everyone that every time you see a blog you think people want to teach they should not keep the Ten Commandments. You are so rapped up in the Law you cannot see clear. No one has preach to break the law. Not one person. So please, stop making those comments and accusations, they only come from Adventist and Jehovah Witnesses most of the times. At least be an honest guy.
---Mark_V. on 2/1/12


--lee1538 on 1/30/12

This is just another post by LEEJ to tell people that they do not have to keep the ten commandments.

They can worship other gods
They can make idols to worship
They can take God's name in vain
They do not have to keep the sabbath
They do not have to honour father and mother
They can murder
They can commit adultery
They can steal
They can lie
They can covet

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the LOWEST FORM OF LIFE BY THOSE in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called GREAT BY THOSE in the kingdom of heaven.


PICK YOUR SIDE
---francis on 1/31/12


It is a wonderful thing to know that the believer is not under the law but yet must not commit sin. Romans 6:14-15

Our salvation is fully by grace alone and the righteous live by faith from start to finish, not by the law. Romans 1:17, Gal. 3:11.

Sorry Adventist but grace is not a provision that enables one to obey the commandments and thus merit eternal life. Our deeds simply reflect the workmanship of God in our lives (Eph. 2:10).

1 Cor. 1:31 Therefore, as it is written, "Let the one who boasts, boast in the Lord."
---lee1538 on 1/31/12


francis //Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the lowest form of life by those in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
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Since Francis continues to light a fire in his home on the Sabbath, we can certainly say that he will be the least in the kingdom of heaven, if and only if, he merits eternal life by righteous living. See Exodus 35:3

Again, I would ask if all the laws found in the Old Testament are applicable to the church?

Or our we limited to those that the Adventist church has mandated?
---lee1538 on 1/30/12


It is not difficulty to find the TRUE CHURCH: the TRUE CHURCH TEACHES:

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus

Matthew 5:19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the lowest form of life by those in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach [them], the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
---francis on 1/30/12


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Francis //It is not difficulty to find the TRUE CHURCH: the TRUE CHURCH TEACHES:

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.
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Now you know why so many Christians who know the Bible as well as its Author will not or cannot become Adventist. The fact is taht there is no light in Adventism and they as children of Hagar try to force the Mt. Sinai laws back onto the believer.

Galatians 3:1-2 O foolish (modern day) Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified. Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?
---lee1538 on 1/30/12


It is not difficulty to find the TRUE CHURCH: the TRUE CHURCH TEACHES:

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus

FEW PEOPEL REALY WANTTHE TRUTH, THEY JUST WANT THE NAME CHRISTIAN
Isaiah 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

Matthew 7:14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
---francis on 1/29/12


Francis - YES SEE IT IN THE BIBLE.

Matthew 7:14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

That straight & narrow way to salvation is through Christ, not in observance of OT laws.

//Matthew 19:16-17 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

If he had asked Jesus if he should become circumcised what would Jesus have told him?

But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law,to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons.Gal. 4:4-5
---lee1538 on 1/28/12


//Even now, Satan is using everything he has for christians to turn from sound doctrine, even convincing christians that it's OK to communicate with the dead.

I currently have a problem with wife's brother-in-law on this issue of communicating with the dead.

There is, however, some distinction being made in some denominations that believe one can pray to the dead in Christ for intercession. Howbeit, there is lacking any sound scriptural support as we do not know if the dead even are able to hear us.

The path to sound doctrine is an indepth study of the Bible and that may be apart from those denominational influences that may wish to control your spiritual life.
---lee1538 on 1/27/12


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Making a dangerous statement, but one that I fear should be made.

There may also be cases where WE feel that a Church is NOT teaching sound Biblical doctrine, even when it IS

I don't know if that is a common error, but it IS something we still have to be careful about - even if the chance is low
---Peter on 1/27/12


Because pearls are precious, and coal is plentiful.
---Eloy on 1/27/12


Even now, Satan is using everything he has for christians to turn from sound doctrine, even convincing christians that it's OK to communicate with the dead. Spearheading this abomination is Pastor Steve Berger and is enthusiastically endorsed by well known christian leaders.
---Steveng on 1/26/12


---lee1538 on 1/25/12 .
SEE IT IN THE BIBLE

Matthew 7:14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Matthew 19:16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
Matthew 19:17 if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

You may not likle it, but is it the truth in BOTH OT and NT!!!

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus


---francis on 1/26/12


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John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
---lee1538 on 1/25/12

Luke 6:46 And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say?

You want to call jesus lord but you do not wish to do what he says.

HE SAYS: Mark 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:

You say because he was speaking to a JEWSH man that sabbath is for jews.

So I ask this: John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Is world here ISRAEL since Jesus was talking to Nicodemus A JEW?
---francis on 1/26/12


Rob, Simply because we are in the Last Days. We ARE in that Great Apostasy spoken of in II THESSALONIANS 2:3. We can gather with other true Saints in our own houses, or, IF nothing else, at least worship the LORD by yourself until you can find a "real Church". Days are gonna come when the Church will be persecuted, here in America, like that which is happening in China, India, Africa, Latin America and the Middle East. The Organized Church will be the thing of the past. Save for anything gone underground! Martyrdom in the American Churches IS COMING!
---Gordon on 1/26/12


francis //Matthew 7:14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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That 'narrow way' to eternal life is through Jesus, not through the law otherwise the Sabbath keeping and law promoting Pharisees would never have been condemned by Christ.

John 14:6 Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
---lee1538 on 1/25/12


Worldly denominational churches are a product of Satan.

Denominational churches divide christiandom up into their own little cults each having their own rituals, traditions, ways of living and interpretations of the bible. (remember what happens when a house is divided). They also obey three masters: one, the denominational elite's doctrines, two, the government's laws in order to keep their tax exempt status, and three, money so they can pay the workers, maintain their assets, and pay for frivolous programs and marketing concepts.

The true church of God does not need what man has to offer for salation - only a genuinely loving heart.
---Steveng on 1/25/12


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Francis //Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

And if we accepted that, we would certainly not be a member of the Seventh Day Adventist church since it is obviously there is little or no light in them nor do they speak according to His word.

That much has already been debated on this forum has it not?
---lee1538 on 1/25/12


It is not difficulty to find the TRUE CHURCH: the TRUE CHURCH TEACHES:

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, [it is] because [there is] no light in them.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here [are] they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus

FEW PEOPEL REALY WANTTHE TRUTH, THEY JUST WANT THE NAME CHRISTIAN
Isaiah 4:1 And in that day seven women shall take hold of one man, saying, We will eat our own bread, and wear our own apparel: only let us be called by thy name, to take away our reproach.

Matthew 7:14 Because strait [is] the gate, and narrow [is] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
---francis on 1/25/12


Scott 1, doctrine is very important. It's mentioned many times in how Sound doctrine is important. ( 1 Tim. 1:9-10) tells us "knowing this: that the law is not made for the righteous" and after talking of those who are unrighteous, and all those murderrs etc, "and if there is any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine, according to the glorious gospel of the blessed God which was committed to my trust" Paul was speaking of sound doctrine he kept, to Timothy, which is really committed to all of us as believers.
---Mark_V. on 1/25/12


Your doctrine better be this or people are more important than your soul.
Mark Eaton

This salvation statement is true. But discussions on trinity, predestination, free will, sabbath, tuilips, the history of the Nicea council, not that important.
---Scott1 on 1/25/12


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Doctrine is not that important people are.
---Scott1 on 1/23/12

Your doctrine better be this or people are more important than your soul.

John 14:6 "Jesus said to him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but through Me"
---Mark_Eaton on 1/24/12


simply because it is written.

people will do anything to get what they want...e.g. $200/mo cable bill...then cry about how others are making it impossible to live mo to mo...then turn around and ask God to pay their bills...

then...

the lions lay in wait...put guilt trip on the willing gullibles and tell them not only to pray, but plant a seed...of course in their garden of course.
---aka on 1/24/12


Speaking for myself, I have failed to find the really Jesus people, because I was not being real, myself. But I could be quite smart about the words in the Bible, but not the context of how the Holy Spirit has us loving. Context of words only can have us thinking we are so smart, but how the Holy Spirit has us living can be so better than what we have thought the words meant, until we grew and discovered. "It takes one to know one." With sense of the Holy Spirit you can sniff out the people who have "the fragrance of Christ" (2 Corinthians 2:14-16) (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 1/23/12


Check out NewSpring in Anderson, SC. Watch online or at a campus in SC near you. Remember it was the Pharisees who loved doctrine.
---Scott1 on 1/23/12


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That's because you are looking for God in temples made by hands. And this was Paul's declaration of such "temples",

"God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands, Neither is worshipped with men's hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things." Acts 17:24,25

"He who has ears, let him hear.
---christan on 1/23/12


Because Jesus said "Blessed are those that are pure in heart" not "Blessed are those that are pure in doctrine"-Rick Warren. Doctrine is not that important people are.
---Scott1 on 1/23/12


Because of the training ministers often receive in their various seminaries.

All too often the true gospel is replaced by a social gospel.

And all too often what is being preached is not a balanced diet as some things are overemphasized to the neglect of other things that are important.

For instance, Pentecostals are too much into the spiritual gifts, modernist churches are too much into the social gospel, while the Bible church are all too stagmated by their narrow interpretations.

Many KJV onlyist churches view themselves as Bible churches.

One should not depend upon church alone for spiritual food as there are many other sources.
---lee1538 on 1/22/12


Because Orthodox churches are found mainly in the large cities.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 1/22/12


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