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Celebrating Valentine's Day

Should Christians celebrate Valentine's Day?

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 ---The_Believer on 2/3/12
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Believer, here is my take on Valentines Day. I have always had flowers sent to my wife's work. She already knows how much I love her, but I make sure she gets the flowers so that others can see them and know the love I have for her. It seems to me when married, we many times take each other for granted, and all it does, is a reminder that I have not forgotten my love for her one day. No one has to do that for their spouses if they don't want. It's everyone choice. It has nothing whatsoever to do with the Love you have for Christ. We forever Love Him more then anything, for He knows our hearts.
---Mark_V. on 2/14/12


Holidays like Halloween and Valentine's Day can be convenient. They mean that after October 1 and February 15, you can get as much candy as you want at half price!
---StrongAxe on 2/13/12


I could care less about Valentine's day one way or the other...... I'm in it for the candy.
(PS: This is the adults Halloween... you be good and do no tricks and you get candy.)
---Elder on 2/12/12


LOLOL!!! You are so funny Elder! :D
---Mary on 2/11/12


"Christian Victory Church"
You fill out a ballot and at the end of the service will be a draw for 3 rings
1st_cliff
I think I musta won. When I got home from the Campground Ministry we are starting. I took a bath and found a bathtub ring....
---Elder on 2/11/12




shira4368:

I hope it isn't crunchy on the inside because they forgot to debone it first! :)
---StrongAxe on 2/11/12


well I am saved by the Blood of the Lamb and I just bought my grandson a valentine and a chocolate fish...even crunchy on the inside. He will love it.
---shira4368 on 2/10/12


Hi All, some of these jokes are so funny. My thoughts on this are simple. If you love your husband and wife "everyday" of the year then when it does come to "Valentine's Day" you won't be doing anything different. For those of us who are single, my Valentine is "God" and I truly love him all the year round. God himself is love and love itself should be freely expressed in any way and at any time in the way that we want to. And not be dictated to do it on one day of the year. Who was St Valentine (who cares??) All I know is that "God is Love".
---The_Believer on 2/10/12


Seems the "church" is not finished "sliding"
In this morning's mail is an invitation to attend "Christian Victory Church" (two blocks from me)this Sunday for a special Valentine service (Feb12).
You fill out a ballot when you enter and at the end of the service will be a draw for 3 rings valued at over $5,000 !
---1st_cliff on 2/10/12


\\How far Christianity has slid since the 1st century!\\

You're right on this point.

Christians (and others) actually have printed copies of the NT today.

In they first century, they didn't. In fact, the NT was still being written in the first century.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/9/12




\\My mind will not accept the notion that Jesus is his own Father or that God is His own Son!\\

No one ever said this.

\\It's not in the OT,Talmud Torah,Mishnah,Gemara or anywhere in the Judeo-Christian literature!\\

Talmud, Mishna, and Gemara are NOT Christian literature, but are the written form of the teaching of the very scribes and pharisees whom Jesus Christ called "fools and blind guides"--the very people who rejected and crucified Him.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/9/12


1Cliff, you said,

"Or that the immortal God died! This is gobbledygook to me,not to mention unscriptural!"

Of course the Immortal God did not die. He is God in Spirit. His incarnate human flesh did die. He came from heaven to us in the same flesh as us. God's Holy Spirit does not die. Jesus said,
"You are from beneath, I am from above. You are of this world, I am not of this world. Therefore I said you that you will die in your sins, for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins." (John 8:22-24).
---Mark_V. on 2/9/12


//aka, It's still puzzling and fruitless to me!// cliff_1

i am very fortunate that there are those that did tell me about the incarnate Jesus when it seemed puzzling and fruitless to me.
---aka on 2/8/12


aka, It's still puzzling and fruitless to me!
My mind will not accept the notion that Jesus is his own Father or that God is His own Son! Or that the immortal God died!
This is gobbledygook to me,not to mention unscriptural!
It's not in the OT,Talmud Torah,Mishnah,Gemara or anywhere in the Judeo-Christian literature!
How far Christianity has slid since the 1st century!
---1st_cliff on 2/8/12


//Not all Orthodox are Greek.// true...just sayin' that there are commemorations of lesser figures is rather fluid and subject to local use. e.g. locally the Greek Orthodox don't commemorate any of the martyrs named Valentine.

//But the whole notion of the liturgical calendar will be puzzling and fruitless before so many people on these blogs who don't even believe that Jesus is God Incarnate.//

perhaps. however, i am very fortunate that there are those that did tell me about the incarnate Jesus when it seemed puzzling and fruitless to me.
---aka on 2/8/12


Thank you Trish.
You and I have been here a long time and I just plain love you. God Bless you and your health.
---Elder on 2/7/12


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\\owever, there exists no Saint Valentine in the "Greek Orthodox Church."\\

Not all Orthodox are Greek.

The commemorations of lesser figures is rather fluid and subject to local use.

But the whole notion of the liturgical calendar will be puzzling and fruitless before so many people on these blogs who don't even believe that Jesus is God Incarnate.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/7/12


Good one Elder. Love your dry sense of humor.
---Trish on 2/7/12


//Lupercalia fell on 2, not 14, February.//

Martyr Valentinus the Presbyter and those with him at Rome is
commemorated on July 6 (COA website).

He was buried on the Via Flaminia north of Rome on February 14.

The celebration was a 'christian' answer to Lupercalia, a pagan tradition (kind of like All Saints Day, Christmas, and Easter...) The don't necessarily happen on the same day.

There are several stories of martyrs named Valentine. However, there exists no Saint Valentine in the "Greek Orthodox Church."
---aka on 2/7/12


\\"Lover's Day" may have had more to do with the customs of the Roman festival of the Lupercalia.\\

Lupercalia fell on 2, not 14, February.

\\ The only Valentine or Valentinus of whom there is historical record was the founder of one of the most prevalent Gnostic sects, the Valentinians. \\

Except, of course, for St. Valentine, martyred presbyter of Rome, who had nothing to do with the heretic Valentinus.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/7/12


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One time, when I complained of being sick, my wife started giving me Plums after I got back from the hospital. She gave me so many I didn't know what to do with them all.
When I asked her why she was doing that, she told me she had heard when my doctor told me that I was just plum crazy.
(PS: I still have some that I could share with some of you "guys.")
---Elder on 2/7/12


"Lover's Day" may have had more to do with the customs of the Roman festival of the Lupercalia. The only Valentine or Valentinus of whom there is historical record was the founder of one of the most prevalent Gnostic sects, the Valentinians. They were noted in particular for their belief in "free love" and liberal view of sexuality.

The New Century Cyclopedia of Names, Barnhart, 1954, Vol. 3, p. 3456: "...Parties of the Eve of St. Valentine's day are another feature of the celebration, when sweethearts (or valentines) for the evening are drawn by lot."

Eros / Cupid (the pagan god of sexual love) seems to be a major icon for Valentines Day.
---aka on 2/7/12


I just like the idea of a special day set aside to say "Ilove you"! (of course you can and should say it every day,but this is universal)
---1st_cliff on 2/6/12

I agree whole-heartedly.

I feel sad for people who cannot or will not celebrate with the rest of us because of some pagan sentiment or whatever they think is attached to Valentine Day.

Someone in this blog brought up July 4 and that is a great example. July 4 is truly a pagan holiday, has nothing to do whatsoever with Jesus or Christianity, yet everyone celebrates it eagerly. Why?
---Mark_Eaton on 2/7/12


\\ ...I believe that she would cherish the gift \\

The word "cherish" does not mean to merely like, but to keep, treasure, and preserve for years and pass down to one's heirs.

In this case, such a gift would be best preserved in the refrigerator.

Of course, in a few weeks, the veggies would turn moist, limp, and slimy--hardly appetizing.

As they months went by, they would turn moldy, possibly the first step for a cure for cancer, but can we be sure?

And as the years pass, they would suffer a change, and not into something rich and strange.

Just what would this woman's heirs make of the small, hard, shrivelled, black objects they would become by her departure?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/6/12


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Rhonda:

You said: all one has to do is look up the ORIGINS of this pagan day to see the open vile sexual immorality the day represented and for MANY it still does

Could you please enlighten us to just WHICH "origins of this pagan day" you are referring to? The day is named after a Christian saint, St. Valentine. Are you alluding to any pagan customs observed at the same time? If so, could you please tell us which ones, and when and where they were observed, and by whom?
---StrongAxe on 2/6/12


Mark E, Sorry if I offended you, no offence was intended!
I use the term "fundamentalist" for want of a better word!
You obviously don't fall into the category of MY fundamentalist!
Some people have to go all religious over everything.
I don't pretend to be "religious" just a believer in Christ !
I have very little knowledge of who "Valentine" was and neither do I care, I just like the idea of a special day set aside to say "Ilove you"! (of course you can and should say it every day,but this is universal)
---1st_cliff on 2/6/12


1st_cliff
I am amazes, but not surprised.
I ask my wife, about what you said, like this:
And what if I added a piece of jewelry? I left costume!
She said, even better! Wow, talk about insignificance!

So, I had to ask, there are two rooms.
Yes, she picked the right room.

Now, for the point!
If the gifts you give are measure by the things you think you have.
Then all your gifts, really never had any value. At all!

But, if you know you have nothing and still offer the gift.
How valuable is that gift? Well, I see love as this gift.
So, on Valentine's Day take a moment to look at each other.
And see the things of real value.
Peace
---TheSeg on 2/6/12


Shira good for you. I agree with you completely. People are always trying to bind God's people with more ordinances when God removed all the ones against us and they were nailed to the cross. To me banning it is trying to make a simple act of love into something evil. We don't celebrate Valentines Day,we celebrate the ones we love that God has given us. Showing love is showing God's nature.
---Darlene_1 on 2/6/12


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to all to disapprove of valentines... I don't see nothing pagan about valentines day.
*****

so much more exciting to receive gifts unexpectedly then to drone on like the sheep masses and giving gifts like robots on an appointed day!!

all one has to do is look up the ORIGINS of this pagan day to see the open vile sexual immorality the day represented and for MANY it still does

today people just play coy and dismiss the ugly origins of the day and play "lets pretend" the day is about love because we are so stupid we need one day a year to celebrate "love"

True Believers celebrate love everyday the WORLD and its pagan traditions can never replace or represent the love in Christ
---Rhonda on 2/6/12


Seg, I liked your idea. Besides, if you get flowers, they fade and die, and if you get candy, it goes pass the lips and onto the hips, and visit to the dentist. But if you get veggies or fruit, it's healthy nutrients for the body and the mind, and they can be prepared in a variety of ways, just like you suggested. And whom doesn't like good tasting food that is also good for you? Many Americans today want the "quick fix", the "sugar rush", "instant gratification", but they don't plan for the long term effects. Perhaps I am wiser in my age, but I prefer fresh fruits and veggies over sugary sweets any day. And I view candy as an empty caloric toxin to the body, and mind, and teeth, somewhat similar to a drug.
---Eloy on 2/6/12


Fundamentalists always have to "prove" something!
Like "Brother better than you"

---st_cliff on 2/3/12

Can we avoid this kind of name-calling in these blogs? What does this prove except to say that you are "more open minded than I am"? Smells like pride to me.

I am a "fundamentalist" who happens to love Valentines Day. I have already bought my tickets for the concert I am taking my wife to, have ordered her chocolate "cake pops", and I am waiting on the eleventh to buy her the latest installment of her favorite movie series.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/6/12


to all to disapprove of valentines...It is a day we show our love ones how much we appreciate them. After all, God said love is the greatest gift of all. I don't see nothing pagan about valentines day. I am going to send my children and grandchildren a sweet valentine.
---shira4368 on 2/6/12


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Seg, Very romantic setting you describe! The key tho is "next to a lovely dinner made by you" The veggies fade to insignificance in this setting!
A nice little piece of (costume) jewellery would thrill her to pieces!
---1st_cliff on 2/6/12


Elder, ha ha funny guy.
---Eloy on 2/6/12


Eloy and 1st_cliff
Well yea, if you put them in a brown paper bag and give them to her!
But not if you cut them just right and display them on a plate on a table.
Next to a lovely dinner made by you. Just for the two of you.
Dont forget the candles and soft music playing in the background.
And when the time is right, look in to her eyes and say something from your heart, like.
You are so beautiful, there isnt a moment that goes by, I dont think of you.
With every day that goes by, I only love you more, Happy Valentine's Day.

But, you guy can pick the vegetable up at the store.
The bags are free.
Peace
---TheSeg on 2/5/12


Eloy said, "...like maybe give the one you love a fresh broccoli spear, or a bunch of fresh carrots with their tops attached, or even a nice big red tomato, or some frresh strawberries."
Hey, Bud..... I think you are trying to date/empress the wrong type of life form. You need to stay outta the Zoo for a while.
---Elder on 2/5/12


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1st Cliff, there is one girl that comes to mind whom is very health conscientious and eats much organic and health food items, and I believe that she would cherish the gift if I did so as you say. For not all women are superficial as some men may think, especially not real Christian women, but some women will look into the definitions of the gifts given to them and be pleased.
---Eloy on 2/5/12


Eloy, Just try this experiment:
bundle up some broccoli, carrots celery etc. give them to some woman that you admire and say "Happy valentine's day"
Guaranteed you'll be laying on the floor with veggies all over you!
---1st_cliff on 2/5/12


trish, what condemned sinners call a "ridiculous idea", God and his saints call a "healthy fact".
---Eloy on 2/5/12


Bill_willa6989, A-men, may you live long and in health.
---Eloy on 2/5/12


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There are other romantic gift ideas available around Valentines Day, not just chocolate.
---Trish on 2/4/12

Yes, every day is time for loving, and for appreciating our love companions.
---Bill_willa6989 on 2/4/12

valentines day appeals to the works of the flesh it is an abomination to The Father in Heaven the CREATOR of ALL
---Rhonda on 2/4/12

I think that you all summed up the real meaning of Valentine's Day very well.

Those of you who are married should use this day to show romantic LOVE to your spouses.

Those of us that are single should use this day to thank GOD, and remain CHASTE for HIM. GOD wants you to keep yourself modest for that special someone!
---Sag on 2/4/12


Eloy: Chocolates are considered romantic and some consider them luxuries. There is nothing romantic in a bunch of broccoli or carrots. That is just a ridiculous idea.

There are other romantic gift ideas available around Valentines Day, not just chocolate. Also, there are sugar free chocolates available for people who can't have sugar, like me.
---Trish on 2/4/12


Eloy, a church friendship dinner supervisor just gave me two loaves of German sunflower seed bread. And this just before Valentine day . . . hm, maybe this means something that I missed, at first (c:

Yes, every day is time for loving, and for appreciating our love companions.
---Bill_willa6989 on 2/4/12


valentines day originated from two very sexually perverse pagan festivals where sexual immorality was practiced ...the endless chaos of the day has many men as possible candidates as the original man named Valentine as well as numerous pagan gods goddesses and the evil pagan god cupid

so today adults practice ignorance REFUSE to acknowledge the pagan origins of this EVIL day and sacrifice their own children to this pagan day TEACHING children to lust after once another "in innocent fun"

valentines day appeals to the works of the flesh it is an abomination to The Father in Heaven the CREATOR of ALL
---Rhonda on 2/4/12


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Eloy,I'm afraid if I gave my wife broccoli or carrots, I'd be wearing them!
---1st_cliff on 2/4/12


1st cliff, it sure does. It would be better for people though if they chose to give something more healthy to one that they love other than chocolate candies, like maybe give the one you love a fresh broccoli spear, or a bunch of fresh carrots with their tops attached, or even a nice big red tomato, or some frresh strawberries.
---Eloy on 2/4/12


Why does everything have to become a "religion"?
We live in a secular world with some days just "significant" like July 4th ! Or Labor day etc.
Fundamentalists always have to "prove" something!
Like "Brother better than you"
---st_cliff on 2/3/12


Cluny and Sag: I ditto both of your responses. I appreciate the role model of Christian faith that St. Valentine was in his lifetime.

I have to admit that I don't give the Lord thanks enough. I once spent a month making daily gratitude lists, and sending them to my Christian mentor. It grew each day, and doing it helped lift my depression at the time. My bipolar disorder requires me to be on a variety of medications, which stabilize my moods, but I still go through periods of melancholy, which I fight with gratitude lists.

I am going to start making those lists again, and on Valentine's Day, I will spend some of it fasting and praying for my loved ones to come to a deeper realization of God's love for them.
---Trish on 2/3/12


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I will celebrate St. Valentine's Day by giving thanks to God for his life and witness and praying that to be given his same courage and love for the Savior.
---Cluny on 2/3/12

So many people have lost sight of the need to give God more Thanks than we possibly can. In our short time on planet Earth, we just can't Thank God enough.

Our BEST friend isn't our Valentine's Day "Signifcant Other", but Jesus Christ!

At church, I once seemed to really "Startle" a guy, who asked me how I planned to celebrate Valentine's Day, by telling him this. Strange, and Funny, too. Did I say something bad or something?

What better way to celebrate Valentine's Day than to give Thanks to God?
---Sag on 2/3/12


When I was growing up, even as a Baptist, 14 February was always called SAINT Valenine's day.

Valentine was a presbyter of Rome who gave his life for Christ. While awaiting execution, he would send little love notes to his flock and friends. "Jesus loves you." "Valentine is praying for you." and the like.

I will celebrate St. Valentine's Day by giving thanks to God for his life and witness and praying that to be given his same courage and love for the Savior.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/3/12


Eloy, It's called "commerce" and it creates jobs!
---1st_cliff on 2/3/12


No, idolizing a man called Valentine is foolishness. People should be inclined to love one another every day, and not only one day per year. I'm sure that the florist merchants and candy sellers like it because their sells increase during that time.
---Eloy on 2/3/12


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Valentine's day is for lovers!
A time for roses,chocolates,sweet things.
Our anniversary is the 17th, my wife didn't want to combine the two, it would do her out of a valentine gift!
(Women's thinking LOL)
---1st_cliff on 2/3/12


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