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There is no guaranteed of finishing the day, nor of a continued heartbeat. If this were your last day to breathe a breath, would you stand holy in front of the Lord or would you have unrepentant sin? II Peter 3:14.

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Eloy, you did not get what I was asking. You said
" Come up to me all who labor and are burdened, and I will renew you.".

Why would those who are righteous by nature come to Christ? You did not explain how they are righteous by nature when Scripture tells us "there is no one righteous, not one? (Romans 3:9-12). God also says "Enter not into judgment with thy servant, for no man living is righteous before thee" (Ps. 143:2). God also says.
"Surely there is not a righteous man on earth who does good and never sins" (Ecclesiastes 7:20). You say there is, should people believe you and not God?
---Mark_V. on 2/20/12


Mark_V, Correct, I again say, "three kinds of people go to heaven: the righteous by nature who never heard the gospel, the born-again Christian, and the backslider who repented or returned to the Lord." This is what is "up with that".

I again say. "There is a way that seems right to a person, but the end of it the ways of death. Come up to me all who labor and are burdened, and I will renew you. Take my coupling upon you and learn of me, for I am mild and humble in heart, and you all will find rest to your lives: for my coupling pleases, and my burden is light."
---Eloy on 2/19/12


The way that seems right to a person, but the end of it the ways of death, that way is the way without Jesus. The way that says, "I hate Eloy, and all Christians, so I am going to diss him and malign him and hurt him, and do whatever I can against him", that is death. The way that says, "I can be good all by myself, without having any of Jesus or God in my life", that is death. Are you hurting a Christian today? Are you hurting Eloy? All that we do and think and say in our life is recorded in heaven, and none of us can escape our rightful judgment.
---Eloy on 2/19/12


Eloy, you again said,

""There is a way that seems right to a person, but the end of it the ways of death"

But you just told everyone there was three ways into heaven, what's up with that?
---Mark_V. on 2/19/12


"There is a way that seems right to a person, but the end of it the ways of death. Come up to me all who labor and are burdened, and I will renew you. Take my coupling upon you and learn of me, for I am mild and humble in heart, and you all will find rest to your lives: for my coupling pleases, and my burden is light."
---Eloy on 2/16/12




Eloy, but how many times will you have Christ take you out of hell?
You said:
" For great your mercy toward me: and you have delivered my soul from the lowest hell."

You claim to be born again twice. The first time His great mercy took you out of hell, then you sinned again, and now you say He took you out of hell, that would be again. So how many times will you sin and expect Him to get you out of hell?
---Mark_V. on 2/16/12


Jesus my Valentine:"I cried to Yhwh with my voice, and he heard me. He said to me: Your sins are forgiven. And the reclined company began to say in themselves, Who stands this, who even forgives sins? Note, God my Yeshuah, I will trust and not fear: for Yh Yhwh, my strength and song, he also is become my salvation. For great your mercy toward me: and you have delivered my soul from the lowest hell. He drew me with gentle cords of a man, with bands of love: and he was to me as one who takes off the yoke on my neck, and he stooped and fed me. And the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me." Ps.3:4+ Lk.7:48,49+ Is.12:2+ Ps.86:13+ Ho.11:4+ Gal.2:20.
---Eloy on 2/16/12


Eloy, Jesus Christ is Our Lord and Savior, not our valentine. You are good at copying passages, but very wrong when you interpret them. You did all that talk about Christ, and in other answers you have three ways of going to heaven. If you believe in every passage you stated about Christ, why don't you believe that the only way is through Him? If you believe there is righteous people without the righteousness of Christ why don't you tell us who these people are? Did they make themselves righteous, are do they come from a race who never sinned and don't need a Savior to save them from their sins?
---Mark_V. on 2/15/12


Let Jesus be your Valentine. To be free from sin, blessed, and to live a holy life with Jesus. God is not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance and be saved. If we confess our sins to Jesus, he is faithful and just to forgive us sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. He that planted the ear, will he not hear? he that formed the eye, will he not see? O Yhwh, you know my thoughts afar off. For all things naked and opened to the eyes of him with whom we have to do. That if you will confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus, and will believe in your heart that God has raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For whosoever will call upon the Name of the Lord will be saved.
---Eloy on 2/14/12


cluny, again, why are you asking of me, when I politely asked you before to NOT address me until that time that you are ready to receive the truth I post, else by your foolish dissing you acquire sin upon yourself.
---Eloy on 2/14/12




\\cluny, why are you asking of me?\\

Once more, I catch youm not telling the truth.

Youm keep on saying youm will not respond to my posts, then youm turn around and do so.

**Leviticus 20:7 Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I [am] the LORD your God.**

Seems that there's a verse about people "sanctifying themselves" by eating pork which you love to quote, so "sanctifying yourself" can be ambiguous.

I prefer to let Jesus Christ be my sanctification.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/14/12


cluny, why are you asking of me? I am in the Resurrected Lord, and the Resurrected Lord is in me. So that if anyone in Christ, a new Creation: the old things passed away, here, all things have become new. My Lord says, "I am the door, by me if anyone enter in, that one will be Saved, and will go in and out and find pasture. If anyone love me, the word of me this one will keep: and the Father of me will love this one, and to this one we will come, and our dwelling in this one we will make. And this having said, he breathed upon, and says to them, Receive Holy Ghost. I am glorified in them. They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth."
---Eloy on 2/13/12


francis, where did you get the idea you were holy?
---Cluny on 2/13/12
Leviticus 20:7 Sanctify yourselves therefore, and be ye holy: for I [am] the LORD your God.

1 Peter 1:15 But as he which hath called you is holy, so be ye holy in all manner of conversation,

1 Peter 1:16 Because it is written, Be ye holy, for I am holy.

It comes when yo obey God
And if God declares it to be so, I accept is as such
---francis on 2/13/12


francis, A-men. Plainly manifested here are a lot of unsaved souls and Christian-bashers whom post on this site. I pray to God that each one gets saved before it becomes too late for them.
---Eloy on 2/13/12


francis, where did you get the idea you were holy?

Eloy, where did youm get the idea that youm were free?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/13/12


Eloy //John 8:36 36 Therefore if the Son sets you free, you really will be free.

The verse should be interpreted in its context.

(8:34-35) Jesus responded, I assure you: Everyone who commits sin is a slave of sin. A slave does not remain in the household forever, but a son does remain forever.

The verse does not say one cannot sin again but only that one is no longer a slave to sin.
---lee1538 on 2/13/12


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francis, "HOLY", A-men!
---Eloy on 2/13/12


Eloy:

Language are for communication, and have rules. Speaker and listener (or writer and reader) must both use the same rules to communiate, otherwise the result is chaos. If you speak German to one who understands Greek, no communication is possible.

If you violate the rules, communication suffers. If you WILLINGLY violate them for your own whims, you DELIBERATELY make your words difficult for others to understand. If you don't want people to understand you, why bother communicating at all?

Your last message had over a dozen deliberate errors, making it deliberately hard to read.

And what is "lecoh sheconda leecumonda"? Without an interpreter, those who speak in tongues should be silent (1 Co 14:28).
---StrongAxe on 2/13/12


Eloy if say you don't sin that is a lie. A lie is sin.
If what you say were true then John must have been really misled when he wrote I John 1:9. That would make him a lier also. It would also prove that all Scripture is not given by inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
You purposely mislead folks which proves your position in Christ is non-existing.
So, "don't address me in this issue until such time as you repent and get Saved."
PS: Ya want'a leave here also? It's gettin' hot in here for you.
---Elder on 2/12/12


lee1538, graduate? yes, and college. I, nor holy scripture, nor inspiration follow changing manmade english rules, for words were made for man, not man for words...understand you not, the power of the author his own discourse?...the deliberator knows his message, and to whomever he reveals. if I choose to noncapitalize the start of a sentence, my liberty: Or, begin to originate starting at the fore, first having subject adjectives and noun and punctuation lacking in very long and drawn out run on sentences, my power to be? who or whom or which or thatsoever, mine word will convey that I choose, and not some other nor the spritually undiscerning or ignorant to the words of God. or, lecoh sheconda leecumonda, which those from above do know.
---Eloy on 2/12/12


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Are you free from sin? or are you in bondage to sin? Jesus says, "If the Son therefore sets you free, you all will be free indeed." Jn.8:36.
---Eloy on 2/12/12


Eloy - It is obvious that those who refuse to acknowledge their sin will die in their sin.
---lee1538 on 2/12/12


Eloy- you can truly hang your head in shame since you will not find any Bible expositor or scholar that would agree with your position and contrary to what you want to believe have NOT NOT NOT been given any special annointing from God to see that truth apart from what others in His church do.
---lee1538 on 2/12/12


Eloy//Stop taking Paul's words he speaks about his sinful PREconversion life and misapplying them to his holy and sinless POSTconversion Christianed life.

Did you graduate from grade school? Do you really know what present tense is?

1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.

"I am" is present tense. The verse does NOT NOT NOT say 'of whom I WAS the chief'.

Again, you will not find any pastor or Bible commentator that will agree with your position. That alone should be a red flag that you have a real problem.
---lee1538 on 2/12/12


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Eloy: It is you who is wrong about Paul speaking in Romans 7. Paul was speaking in present tense, about his struggle with his sinful nature.

Also, in 1 John 1:9, we are told if we confess our sins, God will forgive us. John was writing that letter to believers, speaking to them in present tense.

You are the only person who claims to be a believer who is using those verses out of context. Learned men of the Bible have never espoused your lies.

Also, your grammar sucks. You misuse the word, "whom." And you can not put the suffix -ed on the word Christian.
---Trish on 2/12/12


There is no guaranteed of finishing the day, nor of a continued heartbeat. If this were your last day to breathe a breath, would you stand holy in front of the Lord or would you have unrepentant sin? II Peter 3:14.
---Eloy on 2/6/12

HOLY
---francis on 2/12/12


lee1538, Stop taking Paul's words he speaks about his sinful PREconversion life and misapplying them to his holy and sinless POSTconversion Christianed life. If you truly believe that SAINT Paul is SINNER Paul, then why would you ever believe the Bible? for the New Testament would not be holy at all, but instead unreliable for it is written by a sinner of whom you misjudge Paul to be a sinner. Do you not see? When Christ healed the blind, did the one born blind, then given sight by Jesus, go about saying, I still struggle with blindness? Likewise when born-again, it is sin to say that the righteous one is a sinner. Are the members of Christ's body unholy? God forbid. Let not a tongue blaspheme the holy children of God.
---Eloy on 2/12/12


Eloy:

Paul said in 2 Corinthians 12:7:
"And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me..."

What thorn? Some believe it was a temptation to sin - which he resisted, but with difficulty - i.e. he agonized over it.

On the night Jesus was betrayed, he prayed at Gethsemane, asking God to take the cup away from him. He wanted to avoid death, but eventually accepted his fate. He was in SUCH AGONY, he sweat blood!

Courage is not being without fear. Courage is doing the right thing, though one fears it. Sinlessness is not being without temptation. Sinlessness is avoiding sin, despite temptation.
---StrongAxe on 2/11/12


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Eloy, in your first conversion or born again, you choose darkness over the Light. You choose to believe him over God, you choose unbelief in Christ and believe the lie of the devil, if what you just said to Lee is true, does that mean you are going to hell also? You did it once, what if you do it again? How many times can you belief darkness over the light and still go to heaven?
---Mark_V. on 2/11/12


Eloy//no saint is recorded in the scripture to agonize over sin which they are dead to, nor over sin which they have none of: else they would be no saint, but rather a condemned sinner.

You really need to read the account given by the Apostle Paul.

Ro 7:11 For sin, seizing an opportunity through the commandment, deceived me and through it killed me. (grieved)

Ro 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual, but I am of the flesh, sold under sin. (present tense)

1Ti 1:15 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief. (I am= present tense)

Do you know what "present tense" is?
---lee1538 on 2/11/12


lee1538, no saint is recorded in the scripture to agonize over sin which they are dead to, nor over sin which they have none of: else they would be no saint, but rather a condemned sinner. Ever since the beginning, The Freedom has been put to each soul, challenging: "Choose you this day whom you all will serve: God or disobedience, life or death, blessing or cursing, faith or unbelief, righteousness or sinuousness, light or darkness, Christ or sin. And know that to whom you all yield yourselves servants to obey, his slaves you all are to whom you all obey, whether of sin onto death, or of obedience onto righteousness."
---Eloy on 2/11/12


//Sinners commonly take verses out of their context in order to support sin,...

The problem here is that while you may say that the reader takes these verses out of context, it means the same in context.

I still would pray that you would get a speeding ticket for it you do, you sin by violating the law of the land.

There is nothing in the annals of any of the saints of His church, that tells us they did not grieve over their sinfulness.

Perhaps you have a reason or have been given a special annointing to be different than those who have made up the foundation of the Christian church?
---lee1538 on 2/10/12


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Lee: It seems useless to try to sway Eloy into realizing he sins, just like the rest of us mortals.
---Trish on 2/10/12


lee1538, I am not here to convince sinners, but only to minister the gospel from Christ, and it is up to the reader to either accept or else reject. Sinners commonly take verses out of their context in order to support sin, but when the verses are kept in their proper context then their miscontexted and misapplied verses are manifested to be wrested scripture and falsehood.
---Eloy on 2/10/12


Eloy - not at all convinced of your interpretation. Notice that in 1 John there is the phrase 'if WE say' or 'if WE walk'. John is speaking of Christians who would sin, of those who have yet to acquire complete perfection in Christ.

No, I do not believe that the Apostle Paul spoke of his life prior to conversion but that there is truly a struggle of the flesh against the Spirit. Thro we are sold unto sin, the righteousness of Christ is accredited to us.

I can only pray that the Lord will open your eyes to the truth.
---lee1538 on 2/10/12


lee1538, let us research the misapplied verses that you miscontexted from their passages: I Jn.1:8 has a specific subject which is preempted in detail in verse 6: "If we say that we have fellowship with him, but we walk with the darkness, we lie indeed not doing the truth." John is speaking about liars walking with darkness- Not about Christian saints walking with God. Now your other misapplied verse, Rm.7:19 is speaking of Paul's life before his conversion as preempted in detail in verses 5,6 and 16. Verse 16 from lit.Gk: "Pretend then I do that which I should not, I confess that the law right." You see Paul says in verse 5 and 6, When we WERE in the flesh- sin: But NOW we are delivered..." PLEASE READ- I JOHN 3:4-12
---Eloy on 2/9/12


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\\after I asked Eloy about that subject, he denied that his first rejection of Christ was a sin, because the devil had deceived him. (Basically, he was taking the part of Eve, rather than Adam in this scenario).\\

And that excuse didn't work in the Garden, did it?

Eloy--did Peter sin when he denied Jesus, or was he merely deceived by the devil?

How about when Judas betrayed Jesus?

Can youm answer these questions?

If they were sins, why did THEY sin--but not youm?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/10/12


Cluny:

Actually, after I asked Eloy about that subject, he denied that his first rejection of Christ was a sin, because the devil had deceived him. (Basically, he was taking the part of Eve, rather than Adam in this scenario).
---StrongAxe on 2/9/12


\\Bill_willa6989, you say that you still can sin, and that after you die God can change you and clean you up to please him.\\

But Eloy, YOUM said that youm had sinned after youm were born again the first time.

Otherwise, why would youm have been need to be born again a second time?

To put the question another way, why did yourm first time being born again not take?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/9/12


Thus says the Lord: "Now the day of salvation, now the day of repentance, now the day of cleaning up, and not after you are dead."
---Eloy on 2/9/12


Eloy: Please give the chapter and verse for this quote of your. You say you are quoting the Lord, yet you fail to cite the chapter and verse. Please enlighten us to that information.
---Trish on 2/9/12


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Elo.//you say that you still can sin, and that after you die God can change you and clean you up to please him. That falsehood is straight from the pit...

You really need to address the scripture that says we still sin.

1 John 1:8 If we claim we have no sin, we are only fooling ourselves and not living in the truth.

The verse is in the present tense.

And the Apostle Paul proclaimed that "For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."Romans 7:19

Are you claiming that everyone who acknowledges the fact that they ocassionaly sin, have not yet become genuine Christians?
---lee1538 on 2/9/12


Bill_willa6989, you say that you still can sin, and that after you die God can change you and clean you up to please him. That falsehood is straight from the pit, and that delusion permits you to live a life of sin which is total separation from holy God, and you are taking no accountability for following God's Commandment to Be holy and sin not. Bill, Stay far away from me, for any deceived soul whom thinks that they are permitted to sin and without any responsibility nor consequences for sinning, because God will after they die clean them up, is none other than a lost soul. Thus says the Lord: "Now the day of salvation, now the day of repentance, now the day of cleaning up, and not after you are dead."
---Eloy on 2/9/12


today our society is TOTALLY caught up in the world,even most christians,its sad to say most live a life of a hypocrite,in emotional termoil by the second,and flat out addicted to being entertained.
---tom2 on 2/9/12


Eloy, but many of us share the same views concerning what you say. Of course you have the few who support your sinless views. Jim Jones had many followers also and so did David Kerrash. But I believe "we" who have been condemned by the words that come out of your mouth agree, that you never answer any questions when they are put to you, you run away while condemning at the same time. Only because you have not answers.
---Mark_V. on 2/9/12


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\\lee1538, you cannot presume to speak for others, especially when others do not share the same views that you do.\\

By the same token, Eloy, youm cannot presume to speak for God, especially when God does not share the same views that youm have.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/9/12


lee1538, you cannot presume to speak for others, especially when others do not share the same views that you do. You remind me of the disobedient whom during the Tower of Babel, opposed what God commanded the first humans to do: "Grow and multiply and fill the earth and subdue it.", by saying: "Come on, let us build us a city, and a tower whose top up to heaven. And let us make us a lustrous name, else we be many abroad over all the earth." But God will have what he commanded, and so he said: "Thus Yhwh separated them from there, over all the earth, and they left off to build the city."
---Eloy on 2/8/12


I would say I still can sin, so this means I am still unrepentent, as much as I have not changed to be perfectly like Jesus. So, if I die in the next few seconds . . . God is able to change me better, however He pleases, as I am dying. I trust Him to do all that only He can do. I can not make myself holy the way He is holy in His love, but I am growing in this, I find, but I'm very improvable but encouraged by how I'm better than I have been.

"work in progress"

(c: you could hang this sign out (c:
---Bill_willa6989 on 2/8/12


//lee1538, who is "us" when "you" are the only one addressing me?
---Eloy on 2/8/12
"us"? Mostly those who know the truth found in the Truth and find themselves in disagreement with those who think they know the truth but really have little or no knowledge of the Truth.
---lee1538 on 2/8/12


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Eloy: Lee was not addressing you. He was addressing everyone else when he suggested we pray for you to do something that forces you to realize that you sin just like the rest of us.
---Trish on 2/8/12


lee1538, who is "us" when "you" are the only one addressing me?
---Eloy on 2/8/12


Let us pray that Eloy would get a speeding ticket so he can realize that in breaking the law he commits sin.

Romans 13:1 Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.
---lee1538 on 2/7/12


lee1538, Paul was not given a thorn for "having" pride, but he was given a thorn so that he does "not get" proud: We have this treasure in earthen vessels to show that the excellency of the power is from God and not us. To not sin, this is God's Command, and God is not mocked. If you sin, then you will bring forth death, and when you die in sin you will be cast into the fire. Even children know that to do good is what God tells us, and it is what he expects us to do: and if we do bad, then an expected fearful looking for of judgment and punishment ensues. God not only made a heaven for the good-doers, but God also made a hell for the bad-doers: and they are without excuse whom refuse his commandment to do righteousness.
---Eloy on 2/7/12


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Do not be deceived. God is not mocked, for whatsoever a person sows, that will they also reap. God is a just judge, and he will not throw any soul into hell and everlasting torment that did not rightly deserve it. When God commands all flesh, Do Good to one another, but a soul disobeys and instead they do evil, then they have chosen for themself hell and not heaven for their final destination. There is a great difference between the saint and the sinner, the good and the bad. "Little children, do good to one another that it goes well with you in this life, and in that to come."
---Eloy on 2/7/12


Under the heading of "Hey you never know"
A transport truck went through an intersection yesterday,hitting a van carrying some migrant workers, not too far from here
10 were killed instantly plus the truck driver!
2 minutes before that no one had the least inkling that would be their last day!
If you were not right with God at that moment, it would be too late!

Moral: Don't put it off!
---1st_cliff on 2/7/12


Whitney Houston, My Love Is Your Love

If tomorrow is judgment day (My brothers)
And I'm standing' on the front line
And the Lord ask me what I did with my life
I will say I spent it with you

If I should die this very day
Don't cry, cause on earth we wasn't meant to stay
And no matter what people day
I'll be waiting for you after judgment day

Luk_24:25 Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory?
And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.
---TheSeg on 2/7/12


Eloy - sin not? Everyone from time to time is guilty of disobedience and that is why the Lord disciplines us.

The Apostle Paul even got a thorn in his side because he had a problem with pride. And he also stated what he would do, he did not do but the very evil he would not do he does. Romans 7.

The one who tells himself that he no longer sins simply does not view himself as God does nor does he really know the scripture for all have their sin including Eloy. 1 John 1:8.
---lee1538 on 2/7/12


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lee1538, God commands, "Sin Not." And he would not command you to do so if it were not in your free choice and power to obey him. "Why call you all me, Lord. Lord, and do not the things which I say? If you all love me, my commandments keep. For the Son of man will come with the angels of him, then he will reward to each according to the works of them. For I will say to the reapers, Gather you all together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn. And together will be the destruction of the transgressors and of the sinners, and consumed they that forsake Yhwh. And these will go away into everlasting punishment, but the righteous into life eternal."
---Eloy on 2/6/12


1st Cliff, green bananas. ha ha that's funny. Jesus bless you.
---Eloy on 2/6/12


Since I believe in the promises the Lord made towards those who have believed on His name, I also hold that I would stand holy before Him, not trusting in my own righteousness.
---lee1538 on 2/6/12


I know I would stand holy before the Lord.

What about you, Eloy? You claimed that I am demon possessed, a blasphemy against the Holy Spirit of God, who lives in me. Have you confessed and repented of that sin, Eloy?
---Trish on 2/6/12


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Ask yourmself that question, Eloy.

I'll be glad to help youm to examine yourm conscience here.

Others could do likewise for youm.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/6/12


I wouldn't buy any green bananas!
---1st_cliff on 2/6/12


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