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Are There Missing Bible Books

is there missing books of the bible and if so don't you want to know what thay are?

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The Canon:
Hebrew Old Testament: Gnosia, Shemot, Niqra, Badidut, Debarim, Yehoshua, Sophtim, I Samuel, II Samuel, I Melechim, II Melechim, Yeshayahu, Yirmiyahu, Yechezkiel, Hoshea, Yoel, Amos, Obadiah, Yonah, Michah, Nachum, Habakkuk, Xephaniah, Heggai, Zechariah, Malachi, Praises, Proverbs, Iyob, Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Kohelet, Esther, Danyal, Ezra, Nechemiah, I Chronicles, II Chronicles:
Greek New Testament: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, I Corinthians, II Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, I Thessalonians, II Thessalonians, I Timothy, II Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Hebrews, James, I Peter, II Peter, I John, II John, III John, Jude, Revelation.
---Eloy on 4/24/12


Rod4Him, Yes it is common knowledge that many false and NonChristian churches have their own canons and their own books and some use both the Bible and other NonBiblical books together in their religions. But the true Christian church uses only the proven inspired scriptures, and we reject all noninspired writings, including all apocrypha and all noninspired pseudepigraphica from man.
---Eloy on 4/23/12


Did you know that the Ethiopic Orthodox Church considers I Enoch canon?
---Rod4Him on 4/22/12


Nope. Nothing missing.
---Eloy on 4/21/12


the missing book is the holiest lawbook THUMMIM (EXODUS28:30,LEVITICUS8:8,DUET33:8,MATHEW5,17)YOU CAN HAVE IT FROM TABERNACLE SYNAGOGUEOF PERUMANKANDOM IN KERALA,INDIA.
---jameslevi on 4/21/12




//The Book of Isaiah forms an interesting parallel to the completed Bible...// --- Fenrisulfr

Picture-in-picture witness. i like it.
---aka on 2/28/12


Fenrisulfr's,

Gen 5:18
And Jared lived an hundred sixty and two years, and he begat Enoch:


Yes indeed you are very correct the book of Jasher does in fact record Jared's age as 62 when he had Enoch.

Well spotted thank you a work man who need not be ashamed able to provided evidence of his findings and rightly divide the word of God.

---Carla on 2/26/12


When we study the scriptures, the so-called "book of Jasher" is not a person's name at all. The Hebrew is, "Sefer Hayasher", which in English would be translated, "the upright book".
---Eloy on 2/25/12


[9] To my way of thinking, Jasher is only a human attempt to expand on material in the Sacred Scriptures, something like doing an historical novel. Good for entertainment, good for speculation as to how it MIGHT have been, but under NO circumstances DIVINELY INSPIRED.

It's been difficult for me [at times] to come to this conclusion. I wanted to believe differently, but little by little, slowly but surely, the Lord showed me that the Fullness of His Revelation was in those 66 Books, as written and contained in the Bible. [continued]
---Fenrisulfr on 2/21/12


[3] This actually parallels Greek mythology, where any number of Heroes were the sons of a God and a mortal. Greek mythology can be traced back to at least the 8th Century B.C. The Book of Enoch can't be verified any earlier than the 2nd Century B.C.

I regard Greek mythology as a distorted but genuine attempt to record the ancient past [These people did their best to faithfully hand down what they received from their ancestors.] Interpreted correctly it can offer valuable clues.

The Book of Enoch, however, more expresses Jewish mythology and Messianic hopes, rather than genuine history. Unprotected by Divine Inspiration, and six centuries further removed from the Source Material, it is six centuries more distorted. [continued]
---Fenrisulfr on 2/21/12




[5] Some translations give the number as 300 cubits. But still, that would mean the Giants were as big as Noah's Ark!

There's also the small matter of the Square-Cube Law [first described by Galileo in 1638].

Roughly it means that if the surface area of an object is squared, than its volume will be cubed.

A cube with a side length of 1 foot has a surface area of 6 square feet but a volume of 1 cubic foot. If its side length is doubled to 2 feet, its surface area increases to 24 square feet, but its volume is now 8 cubic feet. [continued]
---Fenrisulfr on 2/21/12


[6] What this means practically, is that past a certain point, such a creature couldn't maintain its own weight, or even lift itself off the ground. It's own weight would prevent its lungs from inflating and it would die of asphyxiation!

Andre the Giant [1946-1993] was 7 foot, 4 inches tall. He weighed as much as 540 pounds.

"The disease called acromegaly that granted him his immense size eventually began to take its toll on his body. By the late 1980s, Andre was in constant, near-crippling pain, and his heart struggled to pump blood throughout his massive body."

Imagine such conditions multiplied a Thousandfold for these Enochian Giants! [continued]
---Fenrisulfr on 2/21/12


[7] These mile-high Giants that "Enoch" speaks of are no more possible in reality, than creatures like Godzilla [1954] and "The Deadly Mantis" [1957].

Godzilla was 328 feet tall, and weighed 60,000 tons. The Mantis was only a measly 200 feet long. But no kind of flesh and blood, whether scaly reptilian, or exo-skeleton carapace, could ever be strong enough to escape collapsing under its own weight.

The Apatosaurus, one of the largest land animals, reached a length of 75 feet and weighed 25 tons.

The Blue Whale [the largest animal known to exist] reaches nearly 100 feet. The ocean supports its 200 tons of weight. Otherwise it might have a real problem. [continued]
---Fenrisulfr on 2/21/12


[8] As far as the Book of Jasher is concerned, which Book of Jasher are we talking about? There are several different versions. I saw one version which spoke in depth about what the Fallen Angels were doing with the Human Women [and teaching them] but when I found a copy of my own it contained almost nothing of those things.

When I compared the chronologies of Jasher and the Bible, they were, in a number of cases, way different.

For instance, Genesis 5:18 says that Jared was 162 years old when Enoch was born. But in one of these Books of Jasher, his age is given as 62. Quite a difference. [continued]
---Fenrisulfr on 2/21/12


[10] They really ARE the TRUTH, and the unvarnished VISION OF THE TRUTH contained in them is so much better than the Detours and Tangents found in these other books.

The Truth is wonderful, simply because it IS the Truth. For ages Men believed that the Sun revolved around the Earth. But once they discovered that the Earth actually revolved around the Sun, how much more wonderful and sublime it was, knowing that!
---Fenrisulfr on 2/21/12


[2] For one thing, "Enoch" had the Giants being the offspring of the Sons of God and the Daughters of Men. Genesis 6:4 says, "There were giants in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown."
The giants were already on the Earth when those matings took place. And the Bible says that the Offspring of those matings were the Race of Heroes, NOT the Giants. [continued]
---Fenrisulfr on 2/21/12


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books not in the Bible are just that, NonBiblical: just as magazinez and TV guides are "not missing" from the Bible, but instead they are "Not Biblical", they never were nor are nor ever will be the Bible. The Bible is God's inspired words, that is God-breathed or God-spoken, and "other books" are not The Holy Bible.
---Eloy on 2/20/12


Curtis,
The early church's acceptance of the Biblical New Testament canon:

1) Valid authorship- the scripture had to be written by an Apostle, or a holy man inspired by God.

2) Right doctrine- the scripture had to be in accord with Jesus' commandments and teachings.

3) Date written- the scripture had to be written between 5 B.C.(from Christ's birth), and 29-30 A.D.(soon after Christ's death and resurrection). The N.T. began to be recorded by Matthew in 5 B.C., and finished by John around the 3rd decade A.D.

4) Usage- the scripture had to be accepted and read in the Christian temples around the Mediterranean and Palestine and the Middle East.
---Eloy on 2/20/12


"Google Bart Ehrmann." (sic) atheist

Google 'MISREPRESENTING JESUS- Debunking Bart D. Ehrman's Misquoting Jesus' by Edward D. Andrews
---scott on 2/20/12


[1] Carla, first of all it's the Book of ENOCH, and the Bible doesn't speak of it. Enoch is mentioned in Genesis 5:18-19, 21-24, Luke 3:37, Hebrews 11:5. Enoch's actual words are quoted in Jude 14 and 15.

The problem is that about the Second Century B.C. those words of Enoch [handed down for nearly 3000 years] were expanded and added on to. There were many books written, at that time, in a similar style. They would claim to be the words of some Prophet or Patriarch [like "The Sixth and Seventh Books of Moses].

As much as I wanted to believe the Book of Enoch was genuine, the more I studied what the Bible actually said about the Pre-Flood Era, the more I saw that the Book of Enoch contradicted it. [continued]
---Fenrisulfr on 2/20/12


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[4] I'm going to quote I Enoch 7:1-2, to show you another problem [and a BIG problem. You'll see what I mean.]

"And they took unto themselves wives, and each chose for himself one, and they began to go into them, and mixed with them, and taught them charms and conjurations, and made them acquainted with the cutting of roots and of woods.

"And they became pregnant and brought forth great giants whose stature was three thousand ells."

Now an ell was an old English measurement equaling forty-five inches. Three thousand ells would be 135,000 inches, or 11,250 feet. That's a little over two miles. Do you see a problem there? [continued]
---Fenrisulfr on 2/20/12


\\There are "no missing books" in the Bible.\\

There are in the NIV and many other Protestant Bibles.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/20/12


If there are no missing books then why does the bible speak of the book of Enos the book of Jasher ? The Apocrypha was always attached to the King James until it did not fulfil the theological definition of modern Christianity. Why take out parts of the bible and yet they are present else where in other accounts ?

Because the message these ill represented (truth bearers) presented is not the complete truth. Don't ever feel that YHWH is confided to the box that is presented to you.
---Carla on 2/20/12


curtis, one of the ploys of the enemy is to get people interested in "other" nonBiblical books. There are "no missing books" in the Bible. When the Bible makes reference to books that are not listed in the Table of Contents of the Bible it is because either the book mentioned in scripture is already in the Bible listed under a different title, or else the book mentioned in scripture is a secular reference book and not holy scripture inspired from God.
---Eloy on 2/19/12


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\\1st Cliff, B.C.= "before Christ", was in use for exact dating by 1660 A.D. \\

Wrong again, as Eloy usually is.

The BC/AD chronology was developed by a Romanian monk, Dionysios Exiguus, in the 700's, using the best information he had available at that time.

Youm are certainly known by yourm fruits, Eloy.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/19/12


Eloy, Your treatise on CE is all well and good but you never answered my question!
---1st_cliff on 2/19/12


1st Cliff, B.C.= "before Christ", was in use for exact dating by 1660 A.D.
A.D.= "anno Domini", a latin introduction in 527 A.D. In English it means "annual or year of the Lord".
B.C.E., a secular alternative to B.C., started in A.D. 1881. A nonChristian usage for "before common era".
C.E., a secular alternative to A.D., in usage in A.D. 1838. A nonChristian usage for "common era".
In 1838 A.D., Christians attached the added refined meanings of "Christian Era" and "Before Christian Era". But uncompromising Christians continue to convey the truth, of B.C.= "before Christ", and A.D.= "in the annual of the Lord".
---Eloy on 2/19/12


Eloy, a man reveals a lot about himself by his choice of words. "...O look, I am laughing like sinners do- not."

When a man categorizes others as "sinners", he makes himself superior to them. He prays like the Pharisee in Luke 18: "God, I thank thee, that I am not as other men are..." He considers himself righteous [and without sin] and despises others.

But people are not just "sinners". They are human beings, with wishes, hopes, dreams, feelings. And yes, they sin.

Hitler could paint beautiful architecture, but his people were often vague and ill-defined, as if he couldn't really recognize them as human beings.

Maybe that's why he found it so easy to murder millions of them.
---Fenrisulfr on 2/19/12


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Eloy,Are you consistent with your "Authentic time"
Do you acknowledge January ,February,March, April, Wednesday, Thursday etc all named after pagan gods?
Why do you single out "CE?"
Are there Eloyisms for these names?
---1st_cliff on 2/19/12


Eloy, **No such thing as CE**?
C E = Common Era or Christian Era! BCE=Before Common Era or Before Christian Era!
What's your problem?
AD +Anno Domini "The year of the lord" not annual (AD is Latin ) not an Eloyism!
---1st_cliff on 2/18/12


"Falsehood, because it doesn't agree with "The Sacred Truth as revealed by Eloy!"" ...O look, I am laughing like sinners do- not.
---Eloy on 2/18/12


Falsehood, because it doesn't agree with "The Sacred Truth as revealed by Eloy!"

Now you say that 1st Cliff's information is unbiblical? But so is yours.

John was indeed exiled to Patmos "for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ." But nowhere does the Bible say this happened in the "3rd decade A.D., being a few years after Christ's Resurrection." In fact the Bible gives no dates for these things whatsoever.

You're willingly ignorant of the fact that it is "The Revelation of Jesus Christ," NOT the revelation of John. GOD chooses the timing according to HIS good pleasure, NOT according to whether it makes sense to you or not.
---Fenrisulfr on 2/17/12


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curtis, no books are missing.
---Eloy on 2/17/12


1st cliff, all of your information is falsehood fabricated from NonChristians, and is nonBibiblical. Saint John, a contempoaray of Jesus Christ, was exiled to the isle of Patmos where he wrote the Revelation from Christ shortly before his death, and there is no authentic historical record contrary to this truth. In fact there it makes zero sense for John to wait until over a decade after Christ is Resurrected, and after he himslef is already passed away to begin writing the Revelation to send to the churches, and also there is no such thing as CE, real authentic time is recorded as A.D., in the Annual of the Lord.
---Eloy on 2/17/12


Eloy, The 1st book of the NT (Matthew) was written 41 CE the rest between 50-98 CE so how could a NT be written 30 CE??

Cluny , Quasi means "almost" pictograph writing has no grammer. Any wording was "oral"
---1st_cliff on 2/17/12


1st Cliff, The Hebrew Brit Attiq supher or old testament book, called the TaNaKh, was completed in 458 B.C. The Greek Brit Chadashah supher or New Testament book, called the GaZA, was completed in 30 A.D. The uncollected individual manuscripts were copied by long hand and circulated among the Christian churches. The actual temple Scriptures were collected from around the Mediterranean, from Palestine, and the Middle East, and began to be translated into English by William Tyndale in 1526 A.D. William Whittingham with his colleagues translated the 1st complete Bible from the Hebrew and Greek into English in 1560 A.D in Geneva, Switzerland.
---Eloy on 2/16/12


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\\Not 'till Moses' time was a written language innovated,'till then they used pictograph type ,hieroglyphic writing!
---1st_cliff on 2/16/12\\

Not quite.

According to what is on the Rosetta Stone, hieroglyphics were quasi-alphabetical/phonemic, at least for borrowed words.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/16/12


\\1st Cliff: Eloy's not going to keep it simple. He prefers "great, swelling [impressive sounding] words" like it refers to in Jude 16\\

Most of these words Eloy either coins or does not know how to use properly.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/16/12


1st Cliff: Eloy's not going to keep it simple. He prefers "great, swelling [impressive sounding] words" like it refers to in Jude 16.

As for where he gets his info, I can't see it as coming from anything other than "Jewish fables" [Titus 1:14]. Neither Genesis, Hebrews, or Jude refers to ANYTHING he's talking about [but you knew that already].
---Fenrisulfr on 2/16/12


Eloy: In the "WHEN WAS GENESIS WRITTEN" blog, on 1/2/11, you stated that Adam was created in 4194 B.C. On what do you base that number?

This is the Hebrew year 5772. They reckon that since the Creation of the
World. Thus Creation [according to the Hebrew Record] occurred about the year 3760 B.C., Enoch's birth was in 3138 B.C., his translation in 2773 B.C., and the Flood in 2104 B.C. .

I would like you to demonstrate according to the Scriptures that the date you are giving is correct.

[I do not say that the 5772 is absolutely correct, but from where I stand it has a lot more going for it than your offering].
---Fenrisulfr on 2/16/12


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Eloy , Let's keep this in simple lay man's language, I speak several languages but Greek and Hebrew are not among them.
The word book in Hebrew is sephor which simply means "writing" can be one page (they wrote on parchment, skins or linen) or many !
Many of similar content were bound together to form "One Book.
The bible did not become "one" book 'till the 4th century CE. right?
---1st_cliff on 2/16/12


Eloy, **Henoch wrote down what Adam told him 1st hand**
There's no evidence of any writing pre-flood!
Not 'till Moses' time was a written language innovated,'till then they used pictograph type ,hieroglyphic writing!
---1st_cliff on 2/16/12


1st Cliff, The word "book" is first written in Genesis 5:1. And in the 7th generation of man, Adam told his great great great great grandson Henoch about the creation. And in the 36th century B.C. in 3507 B.C. Henoch wrote down what Adam told him firsthand in a book. The old testament was completed in the 5th Century B.C., and the New Testament ending with the book of the Apocalypse or the Revelation was completed by John in the 3rd decade A.D., being a few years after Christ's Resurrection. Soon after this, the 27 Manuscripts of the Brit Chadashah or New Testament were gathered and bound together, called the gennhsh eulogos (gennisi eulogos), or the Gospel.
---Eloy on 2/16/12


Eloy, So your answer to my question is 3rd cetury CE (or AD) 'till then there were sacred writings but no "book" (bible)right?
---1st_cliff on 2/15/12


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\\Google Josh McDowell.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/15/12\\

Why?

Josh McDowell's books are interesting, but not always accurate, especially in what he says about the Deuterocanonical Books.

Eloy, Jesus has been my Savior longer than youm have been alive, much less born again the first time.

Please do not address me unless youm are willing to receive the truth.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/15/12


Google Bart Ehrmann.
---atheist on 2/14/12

Google Josh McDowell.
---Mark_Eaton on 2/15/12


1st cliff, The Hebrew word "supher", is translated into English as "book" or "scroll", which first is written in Genesis 5:1. And the Hebrew word "saphar", translated "scribe" in English, is found in II Samuel 8:17. The first writings were upon scrolls made of papyrus, and soon after on parchment in animal skins. And in Moses day Gods words were written on stone tablets. The scripture began to be recorded in the 36th century B.C. by Henoch in 3507 B.C, and the Old Testament scribing continued up to Nechemiah's time in 458 B.C. The N.T. began to be recorded by Matthew in 5 B.C., and finished by John around the 3rd decade A.D.
---Eloy on 2/15/12


The Book of Isaiah forms an interesting parallel to the completed Bible.

66 chapters parallel the Bible's 66 books. But there's more to it than just that:

Many of the the first 39 chapters are narrative. We read ABOUT God, but we don't directly KNOW God. This parallels the 39 chapters of the Old Testament.

But starting at chapter 40, "Comfort ye, comfort ye my people, saith your God," and going on through chapter 66, it's direct revelation of God's heart, just as the entire New Testament reveals God's heart toward us DIRECTLY.

"And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever." John 14:16.
---Fenrisulfr on 2/15/12


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"Truth is more important than doing what God says. As Mark Driscoll says "those people who are educated above there intelligence." Scott1

So, Mark Driscoll speaks the truth and not God according to you? I've always wondered when would be the right time to apply Paul's teaching in Romans 1:19-22, but I think now would be the time,

"Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them, for God hath shewed it unto them.... so that they are without excuse:

Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful, but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools..."
---christan on 2/14/12


In the the 6,000 years of man's history, when did the bible become a "book?"
---1st_cliff on 2/14/12


Scott said, "Truth is more important than doing what God says."
I am not sure I understand this statement. But, all truth is God's truth. Anything that is true comes from God. So, that makes the above statement from Scott mote.
---Elder on 2/14/12


Google Bart Ehrmann.
---atheist on 2/14/12


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If there were "missing books of the Bible" how would we know??
Most of us haven't learned what is in the books we have. So what is the point?
---Elder on 2/13/12

Agree, because we can have an argument about it and ignore the important things is life. At the end of the day say, "we had a spiritual conversation." Truth is more important than doing what God says. As Mark Driscoll says "those people who are educated above there intelligence."
---Scott1 on 2/14/12


cluny, I suggest that you get saved, then afterward the simple gospel will no onger be difficult for you to understand, neither will you any longer be able to blaspheme.
---Eloy on 2/14/12


\\ For example the Witness of Matthew in the Greek MSS is listed as "EUAGGELION KATA MATQAION", which may be difficult for some to understand.
---Eloy on 2/13/12
\\

Yourm English is hard enough to understand.

And I've seen how youm mistranslate Greek.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/14/12


"Thomas had to see. Thomas did." Trav

"Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed." John 20:29

Obviously Christ was then not referring to you.

"For we are saved by hope: but hope that is seen is not hope: for what a man seeth, why doth he yet hope for? But if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience wait for it." Romans 8:24,25

So, you like to tell God you want to have a look at His kingdom first before deciding to believe Him?
---christan on 2/14/12


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StrongAxe, I have gotten the Hebrew books from my Hebrew Aleppo Codex. But in order to not confuse the readers, the Greek New Testament books I merely listed from my 1560 A.D Geneva Bible, rather than from my Constantinopolitan MSS. For example the Witness of Matthew in the Greek MSS is listed as "EUAGGELION KATA MATQAION", which may be difficult for some to understand.
---Eloy on 2/13/12


Steveng:

The KJV has only been around for 500 years. What about the 1500+ years the New Testament existed before King James commissioned his translation? Or the even longer time the Old Testament was around? Do those not count?

And this is only counting the Bible, and not any other books produced by other cultures that are more than 500 years old. In particular, the Chinee, who invented paper, have books that are much much older.


Eloy:

Why do you translate all of the New Testament book names, and some of the Old Testament book names, but leave others in untranslated Hebrew? (sophtim, melachim, kohelet, and the named prophets?)
---StrongAxe on 2/13/12


If there were "missing books of the Bible" how would we know??
Most of us haven't learned what is in the books we have. So what is the point?
---Elder on 2/13/12


What other book in the whole entire race of mankind has a book that outlasted all of them in both number and use? The KJV.

Thousands upon thousand of godly men and women throughout history have written material inspired by the Holy Spirit that it would fill a large city library. But God only chose what you see as the KJV today. He only chose what was important for mankind until the end when all is fulfilled.
---Steveng on 2/13/12


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Apostles and Christ never quoted from Job, Song of Solomon, Obadiah, or Esther either, to name a few.

Does this mean they are not part of the Bible, Rhonda?
*****

so your logic is the CANONIZED books are the same as non-canonized???

should we open another post to help you understand HOW the Hebrews canonized the Holy Scriptures from GOD??

soooo ....the backward theory is that non-canonized books should be included because Christ and Apostles did not QUOTE from ALL of the canonized Holy Scriptures

so "include" fictional works that have BEEN PROVEN to have an ABUNDANT amount of historical and chronological errors? ...wow should we include a few tales from Harry Potter too?
---Rhonda on 2/13/12


Now, apply this to why majority of Bibles being used have only sixty-six books and no more. So, do you live by faith or the things that can be seen?
---christan on 2/13/12

Thomas had to see. Thomas did.
Psalm 119:45
I will walk at liberty: for I seek thy precepts.

The "excluded" books can be found easily these days.

Look as well for the "excluded" sheep that Christ looked for and could identify. Matt 15:24.
---Trav on 2/13/12


\\rcc's fictional books or the distorted label of apocryphal which means hidden or the lost books of the Bible\\

If these are "rcc's fictional books", why are the MSS for them older in Hebrew (yes!!) and Greek than in Latin?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/13/12


There are no books missing:
Hebrew Old Testament: Beginning, Names, Called, Isolation, Words, Yehoshua, Sophtim, I Samuel, II Samuel, I Melechim, II Melechim, Yeshayahu, Yirmiyahu, Yechezkiel, Hoshea, Yoel, Amos, Obadiah, Yonah, Michah, Nachum, Habakkuk, Xephaniah, Heggai, Zechariah, Malachi, Praises, Proverbs, Iyob, Song of Songs, Ruth, Lamentations, Kohelet, Esther, Danyal, Ezra, Nechemiah, I Chronicles, II Chronicles:
Greek New Testament: Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Acts, Romans, I Corinthians, II Corinthians, Galatians, Ephesians, Philippians, Colossians, I Thessalonians, II Thessalonians, I Timothy, II Timothy, Titus, Philemon, Hebrews, James, I Peter, II Peter, I John, II John, III John, Jude, Revelation.
---Eloy on 2/13/12


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\\Apostles and Christ never once mentioning the characters or events that supposedly took place in any of rcc's fictional books or the distorted label of apocryphal which means hidden or the lost books of the Bible \\

Apostles and Christ never quoted from Job, Song of Solomon, Obadiah, or Esther either, to name a few.

Does this mean they are not part of the Bible, Rhonda?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/13/12


There's one important verse when God declared through Isaiah that Israel's bondage to the Egyptians and Babylonians were purposed by Him for a Holy purpose. In other words, nothing on this earth or time happens without God purposing it to happen.

"The LORD of hosts hath purposed it, to stain the pride of all glory, and to bring into contempt all the honourable of the earth." Isaiah 23:9 and "...the man that executeth my counsel from a far country: yea, I have spoken it, I will also bring it to pass, I have purposed it, I will also do it." Isaiah 46:11

Now, apply this to why majority of Bibles being used have only sixty-six books and no more. So, do you live by faith or the things that can be seen?
---christan on 2/13/12


If we were to spend the rest of a lifetime in the bible as it is now, I believe we would have barely begun to see and embrace the whole of the Word, so deep and vast, inexhaustible-
I do not need to seek beyond what He gives, He is sufficient. I cant help but think of those without bibles, who have heard the gospel, know and love the Lord. Some I know have bits and pieces, which they share with one another/pass around. Most is spoken
He is able to save them too to the uttermost,Ive no doubt
---chria9396 on 2/13/12


many religions introduce "other" writings to explain their personal denominational views such as mormons and rcc

Apostles and Christ routinely quoted from the OT of the Holy Scriptures ...books canonized by Hebrews which obviously do not include non-canonized books found in rcc's "bible"

Apostles and Christ never once mentioning the characters or events that supposedly took place in any of rcc's fictional books or the distorted label of apocryphal which means hidden or the lost books of the Bible ...clearly an outright lie because these books were NEVER part of Holy Scripture aside from the glaring fact that these books contain an abundant amount of historical geographical and chronological errors
---Rhonda on 2/12/12


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Protestants have 1-2-3-4 Maccabees, Tobit, Sirach, and the like missing from their Bibles.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/12/12


Paul speaks of a letter "from Laodicea", in Colossians 4:16. And Paul told the Colossians to read that letter. So, it was important. But there are people promoting false books and claiming they belong in the Bible, and try to make it look like we are missing out on something > so we need to test, with God > "Test all things, hold fast what is good." (1 Thessalonians 5:21) Also, by the way, Paul says "you are an epistle of Christ," in 2 Corinthians 3:3. So, we ourselves are God's message . . . in our hearts, deeper than what is written on paper.
---Bill_willa6989 on 2/12/12


Curtis, That's a strange question! All books that are not in the bible are "missing"
It is imagined that somehow God designed a "Book" when in reality the bible is a collection of sacred writings bound together ,produced as one book by a committee of Catholic Priests (Bishops) who declared the writings "inspired" from then on it became the benchmark of Christianity! Inarguable and sacred every word "God breathed"! You think?
---1st_cliff on 2/12/12


with the scripture that was revealed, it is enough to keep me content with what i do not know.

my appetite is satiated and my ears are not itchy.
---aka on 2/12/12


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1-4 Maccabees, Tobit, Sirach, and others are missing from most Protestant Bibles.

There are early writings, such as the letters of St. Ignatius, that were never part of the Bible, but have been preserved because Christians believe there are worthwhile things in them.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/12/12


Yes, & of course. the RCC chose by vote what to put into what we call the bible today. Of course the RCCbible & prodestant bible are different as well. If you choosde to read the missing gospels then pray that God guides you.
---candice on 2/12/12


No there are no missing books/parts of the Bible. I have faith that God preserved the correct words and/or meaning in the collection of Bible books and translations. The writers of the Bible with HS empowerment wrote many, many books and letters but the ones God wanted to keep together to convey His message to us are in the Bible. The other books/letters that a Bible book references was meant for that time and not for eternal message.
---Scott1 on 2/12/12


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