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Why Was Jesus Coming Back

Why did Jesus say that He was coming back to get us if we go to be with Him at death?

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//Jerry, probably Jesus was mistaken in saying He was coming back to get people, .... In any case, it doesn't include me. I'm a reprobate with no hope at all, praise God.
---John.usa on 2/23/12 //

I don't believe that Jesus - being God - makes mistakes. I also don't believe that you "have no hope at all". I've read your posts, and in my opinion, you are closer to salvation than many others. Some here claim to be eminently qualified for salvation. But you are more like the publican in Luke 18 who said "God be merciful to me a sinner." Jesus then declared:

Luk 18:14 I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other (pharisee).


---jerry6593 on 2/25/12


Hes speaking of those that are still on Earth at the time he returns, at least this is what the church teaches. I however do not believe there will be a "rapture." This world hates us enough, they may eventually decide to just remove us of their own volition. When Jesus returns it will be as King not servant. Lion not lamb. He will come in judgement, not in humbleness.
---Joshua_Williams on 2/24/12


Meaning the ressurection he'll come for the just & unjust,and those that are saved & will have everlasting life will be with him. the unjust will be destroyed.
---candice on 2/23/12


Jerry, probably Jesus was mistaken in saying He was coming back to get people, since they already are with Him when they die. But perhaps He was speaking of those in purgatory. In any case, it doesn't include me. I'm a reprobate with no hope at all, praise God.
---John.usa on 2/23/12


1 Thessalonians 4:13 "those who have fallen asleep" Sleep is the familar N.T. euphemism for death which describes the appearance of the deceased ( 1 Cor. 11:30, "for this reason many are weak and sick among you, and many sleep") this people died being sick and weak.
This passage in (1 Thess. decribes the dead body, not the soul (2 Cor. 5:1-9: Phil. 1:23). Sleep is used of Jarius' daughter (Matt. 9:24). This people mentioned asleep are really dead.
The minute a person is born of the Spirit they are never separated from Christ. The only thing that remains for a believer is the resurrection of the dead body, which will rise as glorified body prepared for all eternity.
---Mark_V. on 2/23/12




It says He is coming back to get us who are still alive on this earth > but "God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus," Paul says in the Bible > this is in 1 Thessalonians 4:14. And then, after He brings with Him those who sleep in Jesus, "the dead in Christ will rise first" (in 1 Thessalonians 4:16), after they have been brought back so they can rise in their bodies, I can see from this scripture.

And Paul says, "We are confident, yes, well pleased rather to be absent from the body ad to be present with the Lord." (2 Corinthians 5:8) So, they can be absent from their bodies and present with the Lord Jesus Christ while they "sleep in Jesus."
---Bill_willa6989 on 2/23/12


\\Where does the Bible say that?\\

Where does the Bible REJECT it?

**And Lazarus would have had so much to tell everyone about Heaven**

But Lazarus was NOT in heaven but in in Sheol/Hades, barb. Jesus had not yet opened the way to heaven.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/23/12


Both Jesus and we that belong to him, belong together. And Jesus is coming back for us Christians, and he will divide the antiChrist sinners whom hurt us, from the good Christians whom love us. Jesus promises, "I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you. I will come again, and receive you to myself, that where I am you all may be also."
---Eloy on 2/23/12


Jesus is coming back for the day of judgment, which will last a thousand year. He is coming with all those who have died since the beginning, everyone that is alive when he comes will die [change into our spiritual body] in the blink of an eye. Heaven will be on earth.
---Clarence on 2/22/12


Cluny: "You don't think Jesus comes for our souls at our deaths, jerry?"

Of course not! Where does the Bible say that? The Bible says that He returns to take the righteous living and newly resurrected dead at the last day - all at once, caught up together in the air to meet Him - not one at a time as we die. Read the blog question...Why should He return for us if we were already with Him? Common sense demands an answer.

Why don't you glorify Jesus Christ by believing Him? Don't you believe the Bible?


---jerry6593 on 2/23/12




(Eph. 2:4-6) tells us that when God made us alive together with Christ, (a spiritual birth) spiritually we are with Him. And made us seat together in heavenly places (where ever Christ is) in Christ.
When Jesus comes back, (1 Thess. 4:15-18) is speaking of the physical bodies already dead of those who are in Christ will rise first, "Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds" Those believers who have not died a physical death yet will join those who were dead that have risen.
When we are born again, we are with the Lord forever spiritually. When Jesus returns at the Second Coming we will be with Him spiritually. In the case of Lazurus, he was with Christ spiritually already.
---Mark_V. on 2/23/12


"Think Lazarus. Would Jesus have resurrected him 4 days after his death if Lazarus was in Heaven blissfully sitting at the feet of his Creator? If I was Lazarus I would have been madder than a bat out of...
And Lazarus [would've] had so much to tell...about Heaven...but he never says a word...How could he not shout from the roof tops all that he had seen and heard??
---barb on 2/22/12"


Barb: Resuscitated Lazarus was a faithful, "OBEDIENT" believer. As such, he gladly did what he was told to do. Though the Bible is silent about it, are you absolutely sure he didn't tell anyone ~ maybe his sisters? Perhaps he was told, by God, not to blab about his experience?
---Leon on 2/22/12


Think Lazarus. Would Jesus have resurrected him 4 days after his death if Lazarus was in Heaven blissfully sitting at the feet of his Creator? If I was Lazarus I would have been madder than a bat out of you know where.

And Lazarus would have had so much to tell everyone about Heaven...but he never says a word just carries on living the life. How could he not shout from the roof tops all that he had seen and heard??
---barb on 2/22/12


\\Then John 3:16 uses the word EVERLASTING LIFE - everlasting means lasting forever.\\

Actually, the original inspired Greek text says "zoin aionion"--the Life of the World to Come.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/22/12


Why don't you tell us the Adventist take on this issue you brought up? Let us all hear whether it's Scriptural or not?
---christan on 2/22/12


You don't think Jesus comes for our souls at our deaths, jerry?

That's right. You don't believe in the Bible.

If you mean at the Parousia, Jesus returns to effect the General Resurrection, Last Judgment, and initiate the Kingdom of Heaven in all its fullness.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 2/22/12


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Our Apostle Paul speaks of those "who sleep in Jesus," in 1 Thessalonians 4:14. So, ones who have died are "in Jesus" > "God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus." So, it looks, here, like Paul is saying the ones who have died will be brought by God along with Jesus.

And Paul says, "the dead in Christ will die first," in 1 Thessalonians 4:16, a verse soon after the one I just quoted in part.

So, I consider that Jesus will bring with Him the ones who have died and they will then rise with their resurrection bodies that they do not already have (c:

And He will be back to get us who have not died already, but ones already with Him will get their resurrection bodies.
---Bill_willa6989 on 2/22/12


Where does it say we go to be with Him in death? I can't find that scripture.

Jesus said, "to them that believe in me, I give them eternal life."

Eternal mean never ending.

Then John 3:16 uses the word EVERLASTING LIFE - everlasting means lasting forever.

There is no death for the Christian. When we die, our spirit goes to heaven, our body to the grave. Then at the end of time, we will be resurrected back to our body.
---anon on 2/22/12


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