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Is anyone stocking up on food and emergency supplies for the future? As a Christian, I am concerned about the future and am thinking of food, water and emergency supplies in the basement. Anyone else? I know the Lord is in control, but I don't see a bright future for the USA.
Jim

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Craig, you got my point. And I completely agree with you. Ironic hyperbole works sometimes.
---Pat.pat on 3/27/12


MarkV: "Where in the New Covenant does it mention Saturday?"

I guess you need another Bible lesson. The New Covenant (NC) mentioned in the Old Testament (OT) and quoted in the NT, states that God would write HIS LAW on the heart. Although these verses do not define the content of God's Law, they necessarily must contain the Ten Commandments, as God himself is their author. The 4th of these Commandments requires the keeping of the seventh-day Sabbath. That day begins at sundown Friday and ends at sundown Saturday - whether you accept it or not. And no man, whether Paul or the Pope, has authority to change God's Law!


---jerry6593 on 3/28/12


Craig, I won't call you a wolve in sheeps clothing, but by your own words I call you an antichrist and here is why.
Yes, "Man MUST believe" but they don't. "This is the condemnation, that the Light has come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than Light, because their deeds were evil." (John 3:19).
You contradict the words of Jesus, speaking antichrist, that men lost can love the Light while lost. Jesus said no, you say yes, don't you realize it's antichrist to argue agains't Christ?
You know the Truth but speak against it. It's the Holy Spirit who testifies of Christ. If the Holy Spirit does not testify of Christ you stay in unbelief. Why? Because you love darkness rather then the Light.
---Mark_V. on 3/28/12


jerry boy accuses me of being obsessed with the Jewish Sabbath but obviously that is all he wants to promote and talk about.

Of course, their theology is that if one does not observe the Old Covenant 10 commandments one is NOT a Christian and that unfortunately is why there can be little or no fellowship with them.
---lee1538 on 3/27/12


Jerry, are you blind? I really mean it. Could be you are born blind and need someone to read to you because you did not read my answer correctly. Here it is again:
"Jerry, I follow the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, and He does not command me to worship on Saturdays. No passage is found under the New Covenant."

Where in the New Covenant does it mention Saturday? I cannot find it. We worship God everyday, He lives in us. Are you along? Maybe He does not live within you. And you feel like following the letter of the Law. If you are along, let me say you need Christ very bad. To be with you forever. So that you don't have to be under the law. We are under the Spirit of the Law.
---Mark_V. on 3/27/12




Christ actually paid the penalty only for those who would repent and believe--MarkV

See that is flat out lie. Sometimes I wonder whose side you are truly on.

Isaiah 53:6
We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way, and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all

1 Tim 2:5,6
For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, who gave himself as a ransom for all men

A wolf in sheeps clothing.
---CraigA on 3/27/12


Mark, during the plague of the firstborn in Egypt, what stopped the angel of death from visiting a house? The application of the blood over the door frame. That was something the man had to do. (Exodus 12:21-24)(1 Cor 5:7)

When Moses lifted up the serpent on the pole, whoever was bitten and looked upon it was healed (Num 31:6-8)(John 3:14). This is also a picture of Christ, that whosoever (looks upon him) believes in Him will be healed of their "bite" and have eternal life.

Man MUST believe. He must acknowledge his sin and his need for the Savior. Christs blood was shed for ALL, but it doesnt matter if you dont apply it by doing the thing which God requires of us.
---CraigA on 3/27/12


But he is not only willing but also eager to see everyone else perish--Pat

Ezekiel 18:23,32 33:11

Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die? saith the Lord GOD: and not that he should return from his ways, and live?

FOR I HAVE NO PLEASURE IN THE DEATH OF HIM THAT DIETH, saith the Lord GOD: wherefore turn yourselves, and live ye.

Say to them, As I live! declares the Lord GOD, I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked turn from his way and live


You blaspheme your own Savior. Please dont be a follower of the blind.
---CraigA on 3/27/12


Craig, God is not waiting for anything to happen in His plan of redemption. The whole plan of God is complete before Him. He does not live through time. He never gains any knowledge of anything, for He is all knowing. It is the writer of Scripture that says, that God does not want anyone of the elect to be lost. Every writer speaks in time because the plan of God which is complete is unfolding before their eyes. God has seen the end of His plan already. If He hasn't He is not God.
And let me tell you another Truth concerning the passage you gave in (1 John 2:2) Christ actually paid the penalty only for those who would repent and believe. Christians do not believe in Universal Salvation, that is why there is a heaven and a hell.
---Mark_V. on 3/27/12


MarkV: "No passage is found under the New Covenant"

Luk 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments, and rested the SABBATH day according to the COMMANDMENT.

Apparently, the Sabbath Commandment was still in force after the cross!


---jerry6593 on 3/27/12




The "any" MUST refer to those whom the Lord has chosen-MarkV

That is what you call an opinion based on your reasoning.

However 1 John 2:2 is also written to believes or "little children" whose "sins are forgiven for his names sake"(v 12), and verse 2 declares:

"he is the propitiation for OUR (believers) sins: and not for OURS (believers) only, but also for the sins of the whole world"

Now weasel your way out of that one.
---CraigA on 3/26/12


Craig, Mark v is right. God is not willing to see any of the Elect perish. But he is not only willing but also eager to see everyone else perish. It's in the divine plan. Strange, but true.
---Pat.pat on 3/26/12


Well MarkV if they are predestined to faith in Christ and repentance then there is no danger of any of them perishing to begin with. And just what is God patiently waiting for? himself?

Do you even think about what you say sometimes? You dont even apply your own beliefs to your explanations of scriptures that we give that contradict your "truth".
---CraigA on 3/26/12


Craig, the passage you gave is not speaking about God's will to save all unbelievers. The letter is to the "brethren." The "beloved" in (v.1). Peter wanted for them to make their election sure (v.1:10) He kept reminding them (v.3:12) what they had learned of our Lord and Savior. He told them "the Lord was not slack concerning (His pomises) to them, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward (who?) "us" not willing that any should perish but that all (who?) the "us" should come to rependence." The "any" must refer to those whom the Lord has chosen, and will call to complete the redeemed the "us." Since the whole passage is about God's destroying the wicked.
---Mark_V. on 3/26/12


Jerry, I follow the New Covenant of Jesus Christ, and He does not command me to worship on Saturdays. No passage is found under the New Covenant. The fact is that I do follow the Spirit of the Law, not the letter of the Law as you do. I'm not saying it is wrong what you do, you can do that, all you want.
---Mark_V. on 3/26/12


Ihaven't really started stocking up on food but I started canning 2 yrs ago. I love doing it & yes I have given a lot of it away to people that need some help with food. I do know a lot of people that are stocking up on food & water, & although I would like to stock up on propane ^ stuff like that, My husband just died in dec.-11 so I just don't have the money to buy this stuff right now. But I do love to garden & can the food that I help grow..
---sandy on 3/26/12


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You guys hate me because I speak for the will of God and not men, and that just doesn't go well with any of you--MarkV

I speak for the will of God too! Watch.

God is not willing that anyone perish but that everyone comes to repentance and the truth (2 Peter 3:9)

God does not delight in the wicked going to hell (Ezekiel 33:11)

Jesus Christ died for the whole world (1 John 2:2)

We must repent and believe to receive the Holy Spirit and be saved (Acts 2:38)
---CraigA on 3/26/12


MarkV: "I do what I am commanded to do,....I speak for the will of God and not men"

Oh really?

God said: "Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy." (Exo 20:8)

Men said: No, FORGET it! Keep Sunday instead.

So who do you really follow, Mark? God or men?


---jerry6593 on 3/26/12


mark, you say some crazy things.
---aka on 3/25/12


Aka, you don't call them stone, but rocks. I do apply what I have learned and presented to you and others, but you reject it over and over. I cannot make you believe in the Word of God. I do what I am commanded to do, and I do it with joy. The rest belongs to God. I do not worry for your life. It is in God's hands. You guys hate me because I speak for the will of God and not men, and that just doesn't go well with any of you. But I have peace with God. I tried to give you that peace, but even that you rejected. But I still leave you peace. To God the glory.
---Mark_V. on 3/25/12


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rocks...stones...get real Markv

Rebuke is different than stones.

Pro_24:25 But to them that rebuke him shall be delight, and a good blessing shall come upon them.

and, thank you again for wearing your brand of christianity for all to see. God sees your actions, you don't need to impress us. in fact, God warns us against that.

now, since you have read ALL of God's word, please start applying a few.
---aka on 3/24/12


Aka, I have no guilt trips. In fact I am very happy with all that God has done for me. The fact is that this morning I woke up and prayed for all of you, and everyone on CN who need healing, streigth, and spiritual healing, sisters with breast cancer, children missing, and those who have lost loves ones. For all good things in my life come from above. Thanks for admitting the stones, no rocks, come from many of you,

"more often than not the rocks that fly our way are actually ricochets from our own throws."
---Mark_V. on 3/24/12


markv, your guilt trips and twists do not work on me. more often than not the rocks that fly our way are actually ricochets from our own throws.

i did not say i want you to rest from the Word of God. the word of God includes rest.
---aka on 3/23/12


Aka, I'll take that one just like I take all stones thrown at me. I am sorry that I disappoint you speaking about God. I thought you were different. You want me to rest from the Word of God, well sorry, I live for the Lord for my life belongs to Him. That is what bothers everyone. It brings the worse out of everyone who claim they depend on God when in reality they depend on man. You said, I claim to know the ways of God, I don't claim that, I know who God is. I have studied all of Scripture to know Him. Every single verse where it speaks of His attributes, nature and character. There is many who throw stones and don't want anyone to know who they really are because if they do, their deeds would be exposed. Peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 3/23/12


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markv, if i was addressing you specifically, i would have named you specifically. i was talking to anyone who has an ear. these sorts of phrases will bring cruel result and swift judgement and are all over every question. when there is disagreement, the other is not saved or needs to get save. in the light of all of scripture that is rather presumptuous. as far as your concerned...you claim to know the ways of God, but never rest. do you ever not post and let the holy spirit guide the answer in another manner other than your normal attack/counter-attack, defensiveness and/or self promotion? seriously, do you ever reread your posts? do you really read anothers post and stop and reflect before you answer? selah, please, for your own sake.
---aka on 3/22/12


Aka, I do not see the irony. I did not tell Eloy," he was not saved, or you need to get saved, or you are not of God."
What I did say was that what he wrote was not details of the light. What he said was not in Scripture. So it cannot come from the light, it came from him.
In fact I do believe that Eloy is saved. More then I believe many others are not. But what I believe and what is truth concerning someone elses soul is up to God, not me. I don't save anyone. I actually presented the Truth to him very kindly, and he responded by telling me I was not saved. I did not see you respond to him, if you are here to judge others. You judge me but not him, do you see the irony in that?
---Mark_V. on 3/22/12


"you are not saved...you have no light...you need to get saved...you are not of God..."

can't you see the irony?

just present God's word as you know it and leave the right to the Righteous One and the judgement to the Judge. otherwise, you may be subject to your very own self-righteousness and misjudgement of others.
---aka on 3/22/12


Eloy, there is no light in what you detailed. You said

"Markv, you are not saved, if you think that you have no choice for salvation: "for you must freely choose Christ in order to have Christ"

Those words underlined are not found in Scripture. They come from your own lustful foolish heart. Here is what the Word of God tells us what you just did,

"Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves, Who exchange the Truth of God for a lie" and worshiped and served the creature (man) rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen" (Rom. 1:24.25). That is what you did, change the Truth to a lie.
---Mark_V. on 3/21/12


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MarkV, I will detail this light to you in the hopes that you will see the truth: Markv, you are not saved, if you think that you have no choice for salvation: for you must freely choose Christ in order to have Christ. Therefore you cannot be saved, because you never asked Jesus to save you. And if in fact you did ask Jesus to save you, then you must have free will or freedom of choice to be saved. Else what's the use if no one has any free will, if Christ made only robots whom have zero capacity to freely choose him, then Christ is unjust in condemning souls whom have zero choice to choose righteousness.
---Eloy on 3/21/12


Eloy, I am saved. I have no trouble with my understanding of the Word of God. You say I need to be saved because I don't believe in free will. Now that takes the cake Eloy. You said you were going to be humble, that to was a lie. You even spoke of how we should answer others, gave a whole discription.
Look Eloy, when you can show me in Scripture where God said, not you, that man has 'free will" to come to Christ, or that fallen men's will is free, I will recant what I said. And tell you I'm so sorry. You do have a choice but your will is never free.
Now you have this special Bible, and know the date and hour Jesus was born, you should have no trouble giving the passages that I ask.
---Mark_V. on 3/21/12


MarkV, You really need to get saved, for then your thinking and your understanding of God and reality will be true and Christlike and not deluded with vain imaginations of man having no choice to be saved. Each soul indeed has free will to live how soever they choose, a person can freely choose a righteous and clean life, or else a soul can freely choose to live a wicked and sinful life. That is why God created a firey hell, and not only a blessed heaven: because people whom freely choose sin will be rightly condemned to hell, else God would be unjust in condemning anybody if no soul has free will to choose right over wrong, and choose godliness over ungodliness.
---Eloy on 3/20/12


Eloy, with your believes you must think the enemy has more power then God. That is your conclusion. Just think, the devil, a created creature, with more power then the Creator, Jesus Christ. Most of you who speak for free will, saving yourselves by your own effort, always speak about losing salvation by your own efforts.
Jesus said you would never parish, you say, Jesus lied, they can perish. You created a god in your mind who is impotent, not Omnipotent. Good for you. That is why I said to you how you are wrong, because on the one hand you speak of a great God then turn around and speak of a god who is defeated day and night, not only by the enemy but by man. He cannot get anything done. Everyone defeats Him.
---Mark_V. on 3/20/12


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Based upon these and many other Biblical passages, its fairly safe to draw the conclusion that God does not want us to worry needlessly. That doesnt mean that we shouldnt prepare for the future and tend to important daily matters. Rather, it means that we shouldnt worry about things which are out of our control.
---Jed on 3/19/12


//You are not right all the time you make many mistakes as we all do.
---Mark_V. on 3/18/12//
Thanks Mark
---michael_e on 3/19/12


MarkV, You have misapplied and misdefined the scriptures to corrupt them into false doctrine. Do you really think that Christians have no free will or freedom of choice? and Christ holds us in a relationship against our will? God forbid! God does not force any soul to stay with him, nor to serve him. Speaking from recorded truth and experience, a born-again Christian can separate from Christ, just as a husband or wife can separate from their spouse. And this is the enemies strategy, to get Christians to think blame against Christ and thereby we separate from Christ, because the wolf knows that if he can separate us from the Shepherd then he has a better chance at destroying us.
---Eloy on 3/19/12


Eloy, you are wrong. Those who walked away were not of us ( 1 John 2:19). "for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us,"
And also, there is no free will to come and go. As the New Covenant tells us "And I will put My Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in My statues and be careful to observe My ordinances" God will make sure that we walk in His statues. He is not counting on whether you want to or not. He does what He promises.
Jesus said, "My sheep hear My voice and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, "and they shall never perish," neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand" (John 10:27.28). You say they can perish.
---Mark_V. on 3/19/12


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Jed, how many times must I post Jesus' words, and you diss them, saying the truth is a lie? Jesus said: "There was a certain rich man that said to himself, I will say to my soul, Soul, you have much goods laid up for many years, take your ease, eat, drink, be merry. But God said to him, Fool, this night your soul will be required from you, then whose will those things be, which you have provided? Such he that lays up treasure for himself, and is not rich toward God."
Lk.12:19-21.
---Eloy on 3/18/12


MarkV, Because people have the free will to either stay with God our Salvation, or else freely leave their Salvation and go back down into Egypt onto their damnation. "From that many of his disciples went away, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus to the twelve, Will you all also go away?" Jn.6:66,67.
---Eloy on 3/18/12


Darlene, Having a cupboard or food pantry and keeping canned food and things for a few weeks is normal for food preparation for meals. But the poster is talking about stockpiling just in case a calamity or devastation happens. And Christians are not to be concerned about such things, but instead have faith in our Lord Jesus Christ whom is our provider and sustainer: for he owns absolutely everything in the whole world. Our Papa owns every beast of the forest and the cattle on a thousand hills, and he gives seed to the sower and bread to the eater. Hallelujah!
---Eloy on 3/18/12


Eloy I think I know what you are talking about,the Bible verse you put in red but in case I'm wrong please may I have the Chapter and verse of where the Lord tells us not to stock pile. I did read what was in red and to me it sounded more about having faith and we are not to worry than it is completely against storing things. I would never stockpile like some are but I see nothing wrong in having extra food and I always fill the empty 3 liter soda bottles with water. You never know around here when the line will break and water get turned off. We have always bought extra mostly to give to our children if they need it,sometimes others too. God Bless
---Darlene_1 on 3/18/12


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Eloy, you have to stop and think. You justify your words to Jed and give the reason why, by saying,
"Be still and know that I God. Fear not, I with you: be not dismayed, for I your God: I will strengthen you. Yea, I will help you. Yea, I will uphold you with the right hand of my righteousness."
If you believe what you just said, why do you believe a believer can lose his salvation? You see, you too have your believes wrong, and I have tried to correct you and you got mad at me. I was answering you to correct you. You are not right all the time you make many mistakes as we all do.
---Mark_V. on 3/18/12


I see there are some people here whom have zero faith in following Christ's instruction not to stock pile. -Eloy

That is a complete lie. Jesus never said those words.
---Jed on 3/18/12


MarkV, My preaching and correction is for all Christians here whom do not rely upon God and his word, as the psalmest tells us in Psalm 121. God's Word says, "God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble. Cast your burden upon Yhwh, and he will sustain you: he will never permit the righteous to be shaken. Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the middle of the sea. Be still and know that I God. Fear not, I with you: be not dismayed, for I your God: I will strengthen you. Yea, I will help you. Yea, I will uphold you with the right hand of my righteousness."
---Eloy on 3/18/12


Eloy, your answers are correct but you don't have to come down so hard on Jed just because he sees the passage different then us. Sure everyone should depend on God for all things, that is what we are called to do, but not everyone is at the same level. Not everyone can interpret the passages the same. We are to help the others when we can.
---Mark_V. on 3/18/12


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I see there are some people here whom have zero faith in following Christ's instruction not to stock pile, nor to worry about provisions for the future, zero faith. Keep trusting in self and you will continue to have zero trust in God. Shame on you! And to think that you think that if you wouls not stock pile for 2 weeks God would actually let you starve- double shame on you. You really do not know God and what he is capable of. Did he not feed vast multitudes of people with 2 little fishies? Did he not rain manna down from heaven? Have faith in God, and stop dissing my God whom is proven to be Almighty.
---Eloy on 3/18/12


Jed, knock yourself out jed. Stock up all that your hearts desire. Maybe build a fortress, a bomb shelter also, and make sure that have a couple cases of batteries, oh and toothpaste and don't forget your toothbrush, and you're going to need hundreds of gallons of water, to drink and wash with, hundred and hundreds and hundreds. But wait, what if you forget something, you better hurry up and get it at the store, because who knows, maybe the store won't be there anymore.
---Eloy on 3/18/12


Eloy, I already read that verse and nowhere in it does Jesus tell us not to prepare. Your problem is that you continually fail to recognize the vast difference between fear and preparation. You keep saying that Jesus told us not to prepare for tomorrow, but what he really said is not to be afraid or worried about tomorrow. A huge difference that you can't seem to understand. The Bible (especially Proverbs) warns over and over again about this irresponsible living that you say Jesus promoted. There are countless scriptures that tell us to work hard and prepare for the future.
---Jed on 3/17/12


There's a Bible verse that says the children aren't supposed to lay up for the fathers but the fathers for the children 2Corinthians 12:14-- After all,children should not have to save for their parents,but parents for their children. Farmers always stored up crops,food,preserved what they could for the future. We are to have wisdom and wisdom says hope for the best prepare for the worst. During the Cuban missile crisis at a moments notice we in Killeen next to Army base,close to atomic stockpile,had to pack our cars with supplies for 2 weeks if we hadn't had food,water,etc on hand our family would have starved had we been evacuated. Stock up,don't let fear guide you,but do let God. My thing is if I'm prepared I can share it with my loved ones.
---Darlene_1 on 3/17/12


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MarkV, A-men. There is a growing group of people called, "The preppers", and they are preparing for DoomsDay. Jesus did not tell us to stockpile supplies and live in fear, "just in case". It doesn't do any good to stock pile anyhow, because if a calamity or devastation hits its going to hit, and no amount of preparation will save the flesh. Christ is the only Savior, and as he is more than capable of protecting his own, so we can rest assured in his worthiness that he is Almighty, Almighty in maintaining, in defending, in restoring, in healing, and Almighty in resurrecting.
---Eloy on 3/17/12


jed, Jim posted asking if anyone was stocking up on food and water and emergency supplies for the future, and states that he knows the Lord is in control, but... And Chria and myself both stated exactly what Jesus detailed about these concerns. Then you replied that following Jesus' instruction is a teenage mentality. May I suggest instead of knocking what Jesus says, and those of us whom share his instruction with others, that you instead accept his word. Because those whom are not for us, are against us. period. Chria and myself are on the Lord's side, for we share his word with the poster, but whose side have you chosen to be on? And if is not the Lord's, therefore it must be some other.
---Eloy on 3/17/12


Eloy, I completely agree with you, Chria, Rob, Strongaxe and a few others. Jed is wrong and talking about a completely different matter. Jim, who did the blog tells us he knows the Lord is in control, yet shows no faith because he doesn't depend on the Lord. And you said the same thing to Jed when you told him to,
" accept Christ and his instruction for your life, that you may live in faith and assurance rather than in worry and doubt."
That is so true, and what I thought of Jim who put the blog. He tells us he believes that God is in control, but just in case he is not, Jim is going to build supplies just in case.
---Mark_V. on 3/17/12


jed, Yes he did. Read: "Be not worried for your life, what you all will eat, or what you all will drink, nor even for your body, what you all will put on: In which life is not more than meat, and the body more than wearment? Be not therefore worried, saying, What will we eat, or what will we drink, or what will we be clothed? For all these things the worldly seek after: for knows your Father the heavenly that you all have need of all these things. But seek you all first the kingdom of God and the righteousness of him, and all these things will be added onto you. Be not therefore worried for the morrow, for the morrow will be a worry in itself: sufficient to the day the trouble of it." Mt.6:25,31-34+ Lk.12:22-34.
---Eloy on 3/17/12


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Eloy, Yes, I did say that Jesus never said not to care about the future. And He didn't. He said not be anxious or worried, that's not the same as not caring. That's a far stretch to call food, water, and emergency supplies "earthly treasures".
---Jed on 3/16/12


Jed, indeed you have said that Jesus did not tell us to not care about tomorrow, for you literally posted: "Also, Jesus' message was not about not caring about tomorrow."

Learn that you are not to lay up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moths and rust corrupt, and where thieves break in and steal: but instead you are to be charitable, thereby you will lay up in store for yourself a good foundation against the time to come, where moths and rust do not corrupt, and thieves cannot break in and steal: For where your heart is, there will your treasure be also.
---Eloy on 3/16/12


Eloy, I did not say that we are to be worried about our future or that Jesus commanded us to worry. There's a big difference between worrying and preparing. I'm not worried at all because I do trust in God, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't prepare so I can provide for my family in the future. Jesus never promoted irresponsibility like you say. Learn the difference between worrying (being anxious) and preparing/planning.
---Jed on 3/15/12


Jed, you are mistaken: "Be not worried for your life, what you all will eat, or what you all will drink, nor even for your body, what you all will put on: In which life is not more than meat, and the body more than wearment? Be not therefore worried, saying, What will we eat, or what will we drink, or what will we be clothed? For all these things the worldly seek after: for knows your Father the heavenly that you all have need of all these things. But seek you all first the kingdom of God and the righteousness of him, and all these things will be added onto you. Be not therefore worried for the morrow, for the morrow will be a worry in itself: sufficient to the day the trouble of it." Mt.6:25,31-34+ Lk.12:22-34.
---Eloy on 3/15/12


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Eloy, not blowing money means saving money. So you can't not be saving money without blowing it. Also, Jesus' message was not about not caring about tomorrow.
---Jed on 3/14/12


Jed, No one said anything about blowing money. Christ and Chria9396 and I, we all maintian the samething, namely, Not to worry about tomorrow because tomorrow is in God's hands, not ours and not yours and not anybody elses hands. For many people, tomorrow will not even come for them but instead they will pass away, so it is not good to worry about things that are not in our hands.
---Eloy on 3/12/12


\\Earthly treasures, not blowing all your money now and expecting God to provide for you tomorrow. \\

If you are laying up earthly treasures, whether in food or money, you clearly are NOT blowing all your money now.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/12/12


No, I am not arguing with what Christ said. But what He said is not what Eloy said. Jesus was not saying anywhere in those scriptures to live for today and don't worry about tommorrow like Eloy said. If that's what you got out of those scripture then you have a serious comprehension problem. Jesus was talking about Heavenly treasures vs. Earthly treasures, not blowing all your money now and expecting God to provide for you tomorrow. That's called worldly living.
---Jed on 3/12/12


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jed, so Christ is wrong? What Christ is saying is live for today and don't worry about tomorrow. So you are saying that what Christ instructed us is a childish and irresponsible mentality, and sounds like a teenager.

May I suggest that instead of dissing Christ's good word, that you accept Christ and his instruction for your life, that you may live in faith and assurance rather than in worry and doubt.
---Eloy on 3/12/12


Jed:

You said: Eloy, so Chria9396 is right and Proverbs is wrong? What your saying is live for today and don't worry about tomorrow? What a childish and irresponsible mentality. You sound like a teenager.

Chria9396 was just directly quoting Jesus, so the question should REALLY be: Whose advice do you think is more important? Proverbs, or Jesus? Was Jesus an irresponsible teenager?
---StrongAxe on 3/12/12


Eloy, so Chria9396 is right and Proverbs is wrong? What your saying is live for today and don't worry about tomorrow? What a childish and irresponsible mentality. You sound like a teenager.
---Jed on 3/12/12


Chria9396 has it right, none of you are promised your very next breath to breathe. Where is your faith? Trust God, has he himself not sustained you even up to this very time? God gives you life today, and in his timing he will take your life away: so with all of your stock piling for fear of tomorrow, what if God takes your life today or before you get to use any of your stock piling? Get faith, faith that Jesus preserves the faithful. Peter walked on top of the water, get this, only as long as he kept his eyes on Jesus, but as soon as he took his sight off of Jesus and looked at the raging wind and water he began to fear and doubt caused him to begin to drown and persih, so Jesus had to save him from perishing because of his weak faith.
---Eloy on 3/11/12


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You might try Jim Baker, he's back in business, selling food now. Of course he probably wouldn't want to make a HUGE profit.
---michael_e on 3/10/12


In my opinion (humble of course) both Anon and Jed are right. You should be thinking about your future supplies, including seeds and soil, and also, right now helping financially those who are in need. It may be that trees we plant now will feed Christians in the end times.
---fred on 3/9/12


Consider the ant, you sluggard, consider it's ways and be wise. It has no commander, no overseer or ruler, yet it labors hard all summer, gathering food for the winter. Proverbs 6
---Jed on 3/6/12


Here's what the Lord showed me.

Feed the hungry NOW while you're full and when you are hungry, I will feed you.

Take it for what it's worth, it was a word from the Lord for me, it may not apply to you, but it's surely a good Word.
---anon on 3/6/12


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Jim, Interesting question,if you live in the free world!
30,000 children die EVERY DAY of hunger related diseases. Getting enough for one day is their quest!
Scenario=you store much supplies,situation arises when everyone is looking for food etc..They get to know you have much....you're a target!
---1st_cliff on 3/5/12


\\ Joseph in the old testament did this to prepare for the drought.\\

Only because God directly told him to do so.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/5/12


"Yet God has never failed in providing me with what I need for TODAY. So many people confuse NEEDS with WANTS.

I am convinced GOD will provide for all of my needs, "NOT WANTS" until the day I die."
---Rob on 3/4/12
Very true. At times He provides way beyond what one might imagine, and times of want, but all according to His purpose, praise and glory. His provision is natural as well as spiritual, the spiritual far exceeding the natural. He provides the needing which draws one to look to Him so that, times of lacking are also a blessing, His providence
---chria9396 on 3/5/12


Yes store up food and supplies with wisdom. Joseph in the old testament did this to prepare for the drought. What Jesus is saying in Matthew is do not let your preparedness or works become your hope, faith and salvation because any of these items at some point will fail if you completely rely on them. No amount of food can prevent non-food related events from happening
---Scott1 on 3/4/12


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God hasn't given Christians a spirit of fear Jim. (2 Tim. 1:7) We Christians are to live by faith (trust) in God no matter what things look like in our daily lives. Allow God to do the seeing as you follow & try to see circumstances from His perspective in the future times.
---Leon on 3/4/12


AMEN CHIRA!!!

I have been through many difficult times according to the ways of the world and I continue to experience them.

Yet God has never failed in providing me with what I need for TODAY. So many people confuse NEEDS with WANTS.

I am convinced GOD will provide for all of my needs, "NOT WANTS" until the day I die.
---Rob on 3/4/12


There's a story in the Gospels about a man who said, "Soul, you have much goods laid up for many years. Eat, drink, and be merry."

What did God say to him?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 3/4/12


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