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As JESUS said in Matthew 16:26, "What does a man profit if he gain the whole world yet loses his own soul"? This is a question many of us who call our selves Christians in todays world need to answer. Why do we need so many things to stay happy instead of being content with GOD alone?

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1Cliff, according to Mark God controls everything. Nothing or no one is outside of His control, "Behold, ye despisers, and wonder and perish, For I work a work in your days, A work which ye shall in no wise believe, if one declare it unto you" (Acts 13:41). God's providential control extends over, nature or the physical world (Nuhum 1:3: Ex. 9:26: and "He maketh the sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sendeth rain on the just and the unjust" (Matt. 5:45).
Control over the animals, (Matt. 10:29: Matt. 6:26: Daniel 6:22: Ps. 104:21)
Control over nations, (Dan. 4:17: Is. 40:15: Etc.
Control over men, (Prov. 21:1: Ps. 37:23: Etc.
Control over the free and sinful acts of men, continue:
---Mark_V. on 4/11/12


markv, this is a site to post even if the posts differ. i am not throwing anything back at you. you still think the guilt thing will work and your self proclaimed supremacy.

you said total depravity is in the bible, but we must understand that utter depravity is...

however, i read of total depravity, but i do not read of utter depravity. therefore, it is a philosophy of some men and not the word of God.

even the bible says that they say peace, but it is far from them. so, that is not a good measure of anything. bring me all of God's words and leave behind vain philosophies not based in scripture. if you want to participate here, put on your cup and quit crying like a baby when someone receives God's word and not yours.
---aka on 4/10/12


Ginger, God never took your father's life,cancer did!
If some one gets run over by a bus, did God take their life or the bus?
It's not sin that those children suffer,it's because they have nothing to eat!
Some places it hasn't rained in years,(does God control the weather?)
**man won't do anything about it** (but God can but He doesn't either)
You're right God sacrificed his own son,but according to Mark and others,He planned it all from the get-go!
---1st_cliff on 4/10/12


Aka, you see things different then I. Because you motives are different then mine. That's fine with me. You can believe what you want, I'm only commanded to bring the Truth of God. Go ahead and fight against the Truth that I present as others here do, fight me all you want on every post, but it will not change a thing in God's Word. My purpose is to bring glory to the Lord, yours is to bring glory to yourself by showing how wrong I am. As I said before, I tried peace with you, but you threw it right in my face. No problem. I can only do what I am commanded to do for the glory of God and never for the glory of man. I know who I am before the Lord, a sinner saved by the grace of God.
---Mark_V. on 4/10/12


hello,family,Ginger thankyou! so,very much! sorry,you have my condolenses also,yes,I have b.cancer & sister,every chance yes! try'n to right my wrongs this 2x with cancer.Have a reality if God doesn't heal me,yes! It be good end my suffering! no complaint nor ill will towards no one.Doc told me,report fr cancer dr. That I did not have long. My doc. is a Christian! New doctor said "go in peace,have fun & stay with the Lord." had cancer now 12 yrs. never knew! yes! Checkup every year!
---ELENA on 4/10/12




Yes elena, that is what I mean.
Cliff, God is showing mercy by taking those children's lives because man won't do anything about their suffering or change their sinful ways to stop it.

The same way God showed mercy to my dad by taking him and ending his suffering from cancer.

Cliff, you are pointing the finger in the wrong direction. It is because men sin that those children suffer not because of God.
God shows his mercy in many ways including sending death to end suffering.

You forget that God sacrificed his own child for our salvation.
---ginger on 4/10/12


Aka, the Bible teaches the total depravity of the human race. Total depravity means radical corruption in
Scripture. ... ---Mark_V. on 4/9/12

the bible teaches one and not the other, so the idea of utter depravity v. total depravity is just some mens' opinion.

total depravity is total depravity. utter depravity is total depravity. i can see why a Calvinist has to separate the too.
---aka on 4/10/12


1Cliff, the God of Scripture does not live in time. He is outside of time. What He planned is complete and perfect before Him. He does not change or change His plan because of the actions of man through time. It is all written down. Whether you believe it or not, you, me and everyone else are in the hands of God. His nature never changes, He is the same yesterday, today and forever. If He change to not know, He would stop been God. He already knows what you will become, whom you will worship, when you will die and where you are heading. You don't know, but He sure does. If you want to lie about who He is, He already knew you would. Not many know the real God spoken of in Scripture. It is after all His Word.
---Mark_V. on 4/10/12


Moderator permit-thanks! Wow!bro.mark,read your post tonite on that "dapravity!" stuff..You mention hitler depraved..Etc., well,wonder long agowhat are they meaning 'bout that,biblical wise?? I think I got it. :) thanks! Wow! amazing!
---ELENA on 4/10/12


Wow!this is get'n exciting! I think I'm actually,understand somethings here! So,what Ginger says makes sense...do you mean sis.Ginger becuz of man has made wars,destroy the land,air,water,natural processes erotions,just wastefull,disrespectfull to the wetlands...etc?? Like I know a little about Africa..my grandmother was from Africa. They have to save water,lot of things different.there are different views culture wise even as to the wife,the children.slavery still exists in some of west Africa. Ghana,Nigeria.
---ELENA on 4/10/12




//Why do we need so many things to stay happy instead of being content with GOD alone?

The Apostle Paul left us with a very good example.

Php 4:11 Not that I am speaking of being in need, for I have learned in whatever situation I am to be content.

The Lord does take good care of those that belong to Him, and that has been the testimony of many of us.
---lee1538 on 4/9/12


Ginger, Letting children die to stop suffering is euthanasia, frowned on in most civilized cultures!
Mark, If He stopped being omniscient he would not be God is your opinion. God can do whatever he chooses YHWH means "I shall be what ever i shall be,I shall become whosoever i become" He doesn't need your permission!
---1st_cliff on 4/9/12


Aka, the Bible teaches the total depravity of the human race. Total depravity means radical corruption in
Scripture. Yet we must be careful to note the difference between total depravity and utter depravity. To be utterly depraved is to be as wicked as one could possibly be. Hitler was extremely depraved, but he could have been worse than he was, I am a sinner, Yet I could sin more often and more severely than I actually do. A lost person is totally depraved of the things of God, but not utterly depraved of all other things. Radical corruption is a better word.
It is because of this condition that the verdict is that we are all guilty before God. Only the quickening power of the Holy Spirit can get us out of this spiritual death.
---Mark_V. on 4/9/12


Mark, you said
//He permits evil to continue, yet restrains it to a point and no further.//
Where do you think he stops it, rape, murder, where? BCV please
---michael_e on 4/9/12


If God did not restrain sin, men would be as evil as he can be.
" whom Thou didst anoint, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, and the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together, "to do whatsoever Thy hand and Thy counsel foreordained to come to pass" ( Acts 27.28).
Though the people commit the sin of killing the Lord, it was what God ordained to come to pass.
---Mark_V. on 4/9/12

Mark,

Why would Jesus say on the cross to his Father " forgive them for they do not know what they are doing"?

Why would Jesus tell his Father "Let this cup of suffering pass away from me"?

If all of this was ordained!
---Ruben on 4/9/12


markv,

do you know that the words utter and total are synonyms?

and, yes, without Jesus christ we are utterly depraved. without jesus, we are lost. we cannot be somewhat lost. there is no system of law that we can be independent with and survive.
---aka on 4/9/12


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ginger, your right. God appoints our time to be born and our time to die. He does not sin, He permits evil to continue, yet restrains it to a point and no further. Men is totally depraved, but not utterly depraved. Utterly means that men is as evil as he can be. That's not true. If God did not restrain sin, men would be as evil as he can be.
"For of a Truth in this city against Thy holy sevant Jesus, whom Thou didst anoint, both Herod and Pontius Pilate, and the Gentiles and the people of Israel, were gathered together, "to do whatsoever Thy hand and Thy counsel foreordained to come to pass" ( Acts 27.28).
Though the people commit the sin of killing the Lord, it was what God ordained to come to pass.
---Mark_V. on 4/9/12


1Cliff, you said,

"Mark V, You are limiting God by saying that He could not choose "not" to know the outcome if He wanted to,"

God cannot go against His nature? He never stops been Omniscient. Knowing all. If He did, He would not be God anymore. He is the same yesterday, today and forever.
Then you say,
""The Lord was grieved that He had made man on the earth"Gen.6.6. Certainly does not sound like some one who knew the outcome already!"
He is not someone, He is God. God desires that no one sins, but they do. How does that change what He knows? His decrees from eternity do not change either. He knows the outcome, since He is God and wrote it for us already.
---Mark_V. on 4/9/12


Markv and Cliff, why are you arguing?

Markv, you are right, God does appoint death to each and every person on the planet.

Cliff, did you ever stop and think that the reason God takes those 30,000 children is because he does not want to see them suffer any more because no one loves enough to do something about it?
You are right, God did set things in motion from the beginning. He knows what is going to happen, that DOES NOT mean he causes it to happen. Knowing it and CAUSING it are 2 different things.

Man is supposed to work. God does give the blessing to those who are DOERS of his word.
The reason why bad things happen is because we live in a fallen IMPERFECT world that is dying! Passing away.
---ginger on 4/9/12


Mark V, You are limiting God by saying that He could not choose "not" to know the outcome if He wanted to, thereby making it a "free will" decision on Adam's part!
When He said "The Lord was grieved that He had made man on the earth"Gen.6.6. Certainly does not sound like some one who knew the outcome already!
1Pet.1.20 God "chose Christ" is obvious that God choosing Himself is a ridiculous statement if they are the same Person! (trinity)
Your interpretation is just plain wrong!
---1st_cliff on 4/8/12


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1Cliff 2: you said,

"And that in Adam's fall He was an accomplice!".

Cliff, Christ was "foreknown indeed as a sacrifice for sin before the foundation of the world" (1 Peter 1:20). My God is Omniscient, He knew if He put Adam as our representive he would fall. My God knows all, your god is shock when something happens. Before creation, He had made a way out for what Adam was going to do. Yet God in no way compelled man to fall. He simply withheld that undeserved constraining grace with which Adam would infallibly not have fallen, which grace He was under no obligation to bestow. In respect to himself, Adam might have stood had he so chosen, but in respect to God it was certain that he would fall.
---Mark_V. on 4/8/12


1Cliff, your god is not the real God of the Bible. You just said the god of the cosmos is satan. That is your god, who is ruling. My God rules heaven and earth, including your god whom you believe rules the earth, satan and his demons. God's providential controls extends to all things, nature, animals, nations, individual men, the free acts of men, the sinful acts of men, and also of the enemy. Satan is allowed to go as far as God permits him to go. Here is what my God has to say about Himself, "He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35). You say He doesn't, and my God says He does.
---Mark_V. on 4/7/12


Hello,Nana wonderfull! Hear from you..great post! Be blessed thankyou! Love of Jesus! ELENA
---ELENA on 4/5/12


Sorry Mark but your god is not the one of scripture.
By saying he's involved with the natural disasters,hurricanes,tsunamis,earthquakes that kill thousands, is making him "complicit"
And that in Adam's fall He was an accomplice!
No way Jose'
Satan is yet to be bound and chained and 'till then "he" is the ruler of this system or cosmos!
Jesus said "My Kingdom is no part of this world"!
---1st_cliff on 4/5/12


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"No,money things, don't necessarily guarantee happiness..."
---ELENA on 4/4/12

Of course, all the money in the world is nothing if one has bad neighbors.
A man of faith and charity is fashioned after God's guidance, but a
man of faith without charity profits nothing. On the other hand, a charitable
man is not far from God and his guidance.
---Nana on 4/5/12


1Cliff, it's you who doesn't know the God of Scripture. He didn't create everything an just left us. What kind of faith is that? Let me tell you of my God, He controls all things. Nothing happens without Him allowing or permitting it to happen. If some minute thing happens without Him knowing it are permitting it to happen, then that thing that happen would have more power then God. It's His plan after all and it is perfect for He is perfect. Not perfect to your eyes. He knows you seating and your uprising. He knows the thoughts in your mind before you even think them. You think because you see a tornator kill people that it happens without His authority. God is involve in everything and everyone. What is future to us is present to Him.
---Mark_V. on 4/5/12


Hello,1st.Cliff read your last post,eh?wow! My landlord talk just you only he say he hates religion (any) he "filthy" rich owns even hotels 'n Cuba. He says God messes up everything 'n "we are the ones obligated to fix it all..." he always say to me,you a wonderfull lady but,please don't tell me nothing about God! So,yes you both got the same mind set. He says too,he has to work & it's all on him... I ask him what about the air you breathe?? He love fly all over the world 'n one time,I say to him just be carefull and give the Lord thanks! Every chance you get bk alive! Give God thanks! he didn't speak to me for 3 months. No,money things, don't necessarily guarantee happiness...
---ELENA on 4/4/12


Mark V,I don't think you comprehend how God works.
In Eden he created man and gave him a mandate. Set procreation in motion.He does not monitor each and very birth!
Planted the vegetation (set in in motion) same with birds,animals and fish.
Once set in motion they continue as he purposed.
Life on earth keeps moving independently. Things go wrong and we are obligated to correct them.
If He withdrew His spirit all things would die!
Obviously (from observation) He does not control each and every activity!
---1st_cliff on 4/4/12


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Mark V, Did you not see (in the news) how the tornado in Texas threw arond 18 wheelers in the air like toys?
God set in motion the rotation of the earth causing the jet stream that creates all manner of weather patterns including massive hurricanes!
God's hand is not in "every" incident happening here!
Way back in time He set things in motion!
---1st_cliff on 4/4/12


1Cliff, your very existence is by the power of God. "He upholdth all things by the word of His power" (Heb. 1:3). Both man and beast would perish if there were not herbs for food, and herbs would wither and die if the earth were not refreshed with showers. That is why God is called the Preserver of "man and beast" (Psa. 36:6). What you have done is formed your own standard of righteousness that God has to go by in order for Him to be God. If He doesn't operate to your standards, it has to be wrong. You've formed your own god.
"He doeth according to His will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His hand" (Dan. 4:35).
---Mark_V. on 4/4/12


Nana, You're talking in riddles, I haven't a clue what you are "trying" to say!
Sounds like you're trying to say something nasty,but I would like it to be in just plain English!
---1st_cliff on 4/3/12


Isaiah 54:15 "Behold, they shall surely gather together, but not by me: whosoever shall gather together against thee shall fall for thy sake."

Who will gather, the energizer bunny?

Matthew 10:22 "And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved."

Why does it not say, 'And I shall hate you through the hand of men...'?


"Is your head stuck in the sand?"
1st_cliff on 3/30/12

Like an ostrich?
---Nana on 4/3/12


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Many pastors/speakers today supplement their income by writing books etc. This is income not paid by the church members. Therefore many can live a very comfortable life that they would not live otherwise.
Is it right? Is it wrong?
Did Paul PROFIT off God? Did He SELL his own letters to others and make a profit to supplement his income?
---kathr4453 on 4/3/12


Mark V, God determines when a person lives and dies??
You really don't live in the real world!
Abortion and stillborn are determined by God?
30,000 children dieing every day of hunger is determined by God?
Those who perished in the World Trade Center was determined by God? (maybe you mean Allah?)
Children abducted,raped and murdered is determined by God?
You obviously don't know Him!
We need to talk!
---1st_cliff on 4/3/12


1Cliff, life, death is in the hands of God. God determines when, where, and under what circumstances, each individual of our race shall be born, live, and die, whether it shall be male or female, white or black, wise or foolish. God is no less sovereign in the distribution of His favors. He does what He wills with His own. To some He gives riches, to others honor, to others health, to other certain talents, others are poor, unknown, born in dishonor, the victims of disease, and live lives of wretchedness. Some are place in Christian lands where they receive all the benefits of the Gospel, while others live and die in the darkness of heathenism.
God is under no obligation to give the same gifts to everyone. It's God who appoints the bounds.
---Mark_V. on 4/2/12


are you selling the ignorant religious idea that "being content with GOD" allows one to live a life where everything will be handed to them by way of handouts, welfare, foodstamps, and outright squalor? and then you attain more in the afterlife because you lived a life of self-imposed christian poverty? something NOT TAUGHT or implied in Holy Scripture

Matt 16:26 is NOT talking about M-O-N-E-Y or material things ...to GAIN the whole world is to be IN THE WORLD and its ways, traditions, systems ...political power, religious power

"THINGS" make life enjoyable

ONLY religion SELLS the idea a life of poverty makes one a "better christian"
---Rhonda on 3/30/12


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The view that Christian leaders must live a life of poverty is really unjustified.

Like any profession they should have salaries that are compatible with others in other professions.

Charles Stanley has much to offer but like everyone else we should not follow any man but God alone.

And we should realize that anyone can fall into sin even after serving the Lord faithfully for years.
---lee1538 on 3/30/12


Mark V, Where do you get the idea that I'm judging God?
Do you not see the news or read the paper?
Is your head stuck in the sand?
The world is in deplorable condition,wars and natural disasters, 30,000 children die each and every day from hunger related disease.
That's not judging anyone, that's a fact!
You just don't happen to be one of those kids!
---1st_cliff on 3/30/12


1Cliff, you have no faith in the God of Scripture. you are a realist looking at things from your perspective, what's real to you. Setting standards for God to walk in. What you believe God should do or not do. You wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Him.
"Who being the brightness of His glory and the express image of His person, "and upholding all thing by the word of His power" (Heb. 1:3).
No creature has power to preserve itself. Both man and beast would perish without His power keeping them alive. God is called the Preserver "of man and beast" (Psa. 36:6). God has a reason for everything that happens. So, "Judge not the Lord by feeble sense, But trust Him of His grace"
---Mark_V. on 3/30/12


Sorry, I know I am not a regular poster on here, but I had to respond to Mike who says that since many evangelists live extravagant lives, he is naming Dr. Stanley as one when he knows nothing about him.

I can tell you that Dr. Stanley does not live in a mansion, nor live an expensive lifestyle. He spends his time in prayer and reading the word and teaching. He lives for the Lord, not for money!
---Carra3637 on 3/29/12


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Mike: First, Charles Stanley is not a televangelist. He does not solicit donations during his show. He is the senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Atlanta. I have attended his church.

In Touch Ministries has 200 employees. Stanley is its CEO. He gets a salary from his church, and a salary from the ministry. Those salaries are set by the church and ministry's respective boards. He does not choose his income.

Since you have no clue what kind of home he has, nor do you know what kind of car he drives, and you admit you know nothing about his giving, and you certainly don't know his heart, I suggest you take the log out of your own eye, before you try to take the speck out of Stanley's eye.
---Trish on 3/29/12


trish

I don't need to know how much stanley gives out to charity. since many televangelist live in mansions & drive a luxury cars it tell me what kind of example they are setting. Acts 20:33-35 i have not coveted silver gold or clothing. you know that these hands of mine have supplied my own needs...in everything I did i showd you that hard work must help the weak...
---mike on 3/29/12


Family,Is.45:9"woe to him who quarrels withhis maker,.....Does the clay say to the potter what are you making?this is word.bro
1st.ciff,we cannot knowall he does,he wants our trust
---ELENA on 3/27/12


Hello,Bro.Mark,the lord see you try to let bro.1stCliff know God is soverano soiverign eh? He is the creator.we don't dare question like that!I have kids who died.later on I realize God'will,even now God give me breath,I love God thru good & bad.I love Him
---ELENA on 3/27/12


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Mark V, Now you are wrong,my heart is not in this world but I'm a "realist".
God doesn't "call" people to die,time and circumstance determines that!
How did God make it possible for you to pay the bill? (you must have had some ambition)
Nothing personal,Mark, but He looked after your needs while allowing 30,000 children to die of hunger today? THIS is the "real" world!
---1st_cliff on 3/27/12


trish
you are gullible. in order for televangelist to give a lot they have to earn a lot? it is just like saying 'it is not about money, yet quote 1 tim. 5:14 to justify money.
---mike on 3/27/12


1Cliff, why don't you picture me on the check out line thanking God for making it possible for me to be able to pay the bill. For making me able to stand in line, for being able to breath. The only little white men are in your mind. I don't kill animals but I do eat the animals someone else kills. I thank God I don't have kill them. But thank Him for providing the food that I need to continue my life. One day He will call me, and He will not provide for me anymore in this life. We should thank God for all things, even in the worse times. Your heart is in the world.
---Mark_V. on 3/27/12


Mike: How do you know what Charles Stanley earns? Did he publicize his income? Same for any of the other televangelists. How do you know their salaries? Plus, do you know how much they tithe and give to charity? I doubt it.
---Trish on 3/26/12


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you know that is a good question. include televangelist like stanley, robertson whose salary is $200,000 $300,000 or $400,000 a year. christians defend their salaries by quoting 1 tim.5:14. many say that IT IS NOT ABOUT THE MONEY YET they defend quote scripture to justify extravagant salaries. were is their joy money or god?
---mike on 3/26/12


//I am familiar with adversity, my wife is handicapped,through no fault of her own, I am her "caregiver".

I am in the same situation with my wife and she would die within a week if I left.

However, since I am retired I really have nothing better to do anyhow so I really do not mind taking care of her.

I bring my kindle with me when I have to wait for her so make the best use of the time.
---lee1538 on 3/26/12


francis, A-men sister. I like that.
---Eloy on 3/26/12


Elena, I am familiar with adversity, my wife is handicapped,through no fault of her own, I am her "caregiver".
If I left her alone and said "God take care of her" she would be dead in a week!
Sometimes "we" have to take charge!
---1st_cliff on 3/26/12


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ELENA: Mt11:28,29Come to me,all who are weary..."

Yes!

"...and I will give you rest.

29Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me, for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

30For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light."
---chria9396 on 3/26/12


Mt11:28,29Come to me,all who are weary..."1st.Cliff,permit me,say yrs.my husband took care of me,wheelchair bd.,sometimes,we are just stressed & my heart tells me,bro. Let me say,whenI find out cancer2x didn't even believe,yet,God so good,Live alone'n o.k.
---ELENA on 3/25/12


Mark V, I can just picture you in the check-out line of the supermarket saying "God will pick up the tab since all things belong to Him"
Then the little men in white coats will come and take you away!
The last time i killed an animal (deer) was when I was 18, I gave my gun away and said "I can't do this"
The water to shower comes from Him but it goes through a meter that I have to pay for! You live in a strange world Mark!
---1st_cliff on 3/25/12


things make you happy
salvation bring you joy
---francis on 3/25/12


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When you truly love Jesus, then you will be fed his Bread of Life which will satisfy your soul, and you will drink of his Living Water which will quench all your thirst, and you will see that in consecration you do not really need to be satiating your flesh because your flesh has been lost in Christ, and your Spirit is now more than satisfied to just be together with him.
---Eloy on 3/25/12


MarkV and Cliff: I think you are both right. On the one hand, the Bible says:

Php 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.

But it also says:

2Th 3:10 For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.


---jerry6593 on 3/25/12


1Cliff, you are completely wrong.
God not only gives you health to be able to kill the animal, but also provides the animal for you so you can eat and live, and provides the food for the animal that you are able to kill so you can eat.
He makes it possible for you to pay your mortage, or not provide to pay it.
He does pick-up the tab since all things belong to Him.
God has provided for me in my retirement and one day He will take my life, just as He gave it to me. The water to shower comes from Him. God provides all things since He controls all things. So you are completely wrong.
---Mark_V. on 3/25/12


Mark V, I'm completely wrong?
Does God pay your mortgage/rent?
When you go to the supermarket do you tell them that"God will pick up the tab"?
Does God kill an animal to clothe you as He did Adam and Eve?
Get real Mark,are you unemployed? work? why? He supplies your stuff like "manna" in the wilderness?
---1st_cliff on 3/24/12


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Hello,Family,God bless you bro.Mark,yes so true,every breath,whatever we have only God!my right eye lill better,had sent #2blogge,If not get piano still praise & worshipGod most High!amen.gloria a Dios!peace to you,tooBro.Mark.mucho respeto.much respect.
---ELENA on 3/24/12


Wow!excelent,welcome bro.PaulM,ELENA here,love & know Christianet has help me alot learn bible,yes,used to think I need alot "stuff"now,sorry bro.1st.Cliff that truly not their biz,also,sad people get jealous,only thing I am pray for organ,piano,play4God
---ELENA on 3/23/12


1Cliff, you said,

"He will not put food on your table, clothes on your back or a roof over your head. One needs more than "God alone"

You are completely wrong. God does put food on our table. He clothes us for everything we need comes from God. Even our breath. We cannot even exist without Him. He controls the rains, for the food to grow, in fact the Word of God says,

" He "upholdeth all things by the word of His power" (Heb. 1:3) That an infant can live at all, and for so many months, in such cramped and filthy quarters, and that without breathing, is unaccountable without the power of God.
---Mark_V. on 3/24/12


Problem stems in not knowing necessities from luxuries!
Try having a breakdown on the interstate without a cell phone or triple A.
Is your kid the only one in class without a cell phone?
My wife is handicapped and has an electric scooter that I carry in the trunk of my Chrysler 300.
Things don't necessarily make us happy but they make life more tolerable!
The Yanomami of the rain forest don't have "things" ,are they better off than the affluent North American?
---1st_cliff on 3/23/12


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Paul M, It's all well and good for super religious people to say "all we need is God alone"
He will not put food on your table, clothes on your back or a roof over your head. One needs more than "God alone"
In order to provide these things a job is nessary, to get a decent job an education is a pre requisite.
People on here make "self reliance" a bad phrase!
We need Christ for salvation ,but to make it here on earth we need "backbone"!
---1st_cliff on 3/22/12


"things" don't make me happy. Giving makes me happy and I do that when I have the means to do so. My treasures are laid up in heaven. My treasures on earth are my family and my church family.
---shira4368 on 3/22/12


Material things bring me temporary pleasure. What gives me true happiness is spending time with family and friends, especially my children and grandchildren. Loving and fellowshipping with them bring me the greatest happiness.
---Trish on 3/22/12


Once I was chastised from the pulpit for owning an aircraft,I told them frankly it was none of their business since it did not interfere with my Christian walk!
---1st_cliff on 3/21/12

i wonder what they would have said if you told them that you were ridding yourself of the aircraft and wondered to whom to donate it or the proceeds thereof?
---aka on 3/22/12


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because we place our faith in those things that do not satisfy. The best story of this is in Isaiah. A man cuts down a tree for fuel, house, etc but then makes an idol out of it. It is a diffcult process of saying I have stuff not for my glory but for God's glory. The real question is do we have stuff or does stuff have us.
---Scott1 on 3/22/12


"be content with such things as you have" (in Hebrews 13:5) For me, this applies to relationships > be satisfied with all I really have with each person. Appreciate who I do have. God is trusting me to love each person I am involved with.

"And having food and clothing, with these we shall be content." (1 Timothy 6:8)

One minute of sharing with a real Jesus sister in God's love does more for me than a billion universes of gold and silver could do for me (c:
---willie_c: on 3/22/12


Frankly,possessions have nothing to do with salvation.
Salvation is based on belief in Almighty God and his Son Christ Jesus.
Obedience is better than sacrifice.
Buddhists are content with a begging bowl and a saffron robe. Does that save them?
Once I was chastised from the pulpit for owning an aircraft,I told them frankly it was none of their business since it did not interfere with my Christian walk!
---1st_cliff on 3/21/12


Paul, first of all welcome to CN. Hope your stay goes great. I believe the main reason why Christians in today's world want things is for the simple reason that man's flesh has not been redeem yet. And all through life we struggle with the flesh, some more then others. God gave us the human flesh and through the curse only our soul can be redeemed in this life, the flesh will die. That's why Matthew says, "What does a man prophit if he gain the whole world yet loses his soul?" Everything he gains is lost when he dies. And if his soul is saved, it is saved forever.
---Mark_V. on 3/21/12


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Paul_Montoya...You may need a lot of stuff to be happy. That doesn't mean that all of us Christians are the same. The trick to being happy in financial matters is to live way below your means and give as much as you can of yourself and your money to others.
---KarenD on 3/21/12


"Why do we need so many things to stay happy" We dont, its a deception. rather, "...what things were gain to me, those I counted loss for Christ. Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ, And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith: That I may know him, and the power of his resurrection, and the fellowship of his sufferings, being made conformable unto his death,"
phil 3:7-10
---Chria9396 on 3/21/12


How do you define happiness? Most Christians on these blogs don't seem particularly happy.
---Pat.pat on 3/21/12


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