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Sag: "You're a messenger of Satan -- the "father of lies"."

Not a really genuine and loving response.
---Steveng on 4/8/12


Sag: "Thankfully, the LAW came to an end when Jesus Christ came to Earth. We are now living under grace."

Take diligent heed to do the commandments says the Lord, the commandments of the LORD is pure. The OT separates the commandments and the law of Moses. Joshua 22:5

Psalm 111:10
Psalm 112:1
Psalm 119:151
Proverbs 6:23
Proverbs 8:29
Proverbs 19:16

Matthew 5:19
Matthew 15:3
Matthew 19:17
Luke 23:56
John 14:15
John 14:21
John 15:10
1 Corinthians 7:19
1 John 2:3-8
Revelation 12:17
Revelation 14:12
Revelation 22:14

Need the Bible say more?
---Steveng on 4/8/12


Keep this commandment - the ultimate commandment of LOVE - without spot, unrebukable, until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ.

The OT laws were of a physical nature, the NT laws are of a spiritual nature. While God owns everything the OT says to give ten percent - and even more. The NT says not to tithe, but to give cheerfully all you are able to help those less fortunate. This means more than ten percent. A christian should be able to live on the bare necessities - a roof over the head, clothes you your back and food on the table. Does a christian need any more?

Remember the story of Ananias and Sapphira who falsely claimed to be giving all of the proceeds of a property sale to the church?
---Steveng on 4/8/12


NO, I am NOT robbing GOD. You're a messenger of Satan
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my response quoted Holy Scripture unlike your unscriptural ranting ...YOU SAY GODS HOLY WORD did not encourage you to give up your REASONING and "feelings" and new-age tithing rules instead you will continue to reject tithing and DISOBEY GOD - can't blame me I didn't write Holy Scripture

those who disobey and TEACH others to follow their denominational view NOT GOD always have lots of words, lots of spin, and will reject and dismiss Scripture and TEACH others to do the same

MESSENGERS of Satan rely on LIES and denominational ideas and views

true BELIEVERS rely on Gods Holy Word and there is NOT ONE VERSE in NT that has abolished tithing
---Rhonda on 4/8/12


Luke 17:7-10 KJV

But which of you, having a servant plowing or feeding cattle, will say unto him by and by, when he is come from the field, Go and sit down to meat? And will not rather say unto him, Make ready wherewith I may sup, and girder thyself, and serve me, till I have eaten and drunken, and afterward thou shalt eat and drink? Doth he thank that servant because he did the things that were commanded him? I trow not. So likewise ye, when ye shall have done all those things which are commanded you, say, We are unprofitable servants: we have done that which was our duty to do.

Servants do as they are commanded. They don't know what the master is doing. After they have done everything commanded, they are still unprofitable.
---blogger8980 on 4/8/12




Rhonda, please read Deut. 14:22-29. Is this how you tithe? Are you following God's commands, OR are you follow a tradition that started in the Protestant Church in 1870?
---Gary on 4/8/12


Niama, the legalist keep an eye on everyone else believing others have to conform to their standards, their own laws. The fundamental distortion of the legalism is the belief that one can earn one's way into the kingdom of heaven. The Pharisees were legalist. A corollary article of legalism is the adherence to the letter of the Law to the exclusion of the Spirit of the Law. The Pharisees were guilty of another form of legalism, They added their own laws to the law of God as many here do. Their traditions were raised to a status equal to the law of God. They rob people of their liberty and put chains on them where God had left them free.
---Mark_V. on 4/8/12


giving 5% is unBiblical you are ROBBING GOD
---Rhonda on 4/7/12

NO, I am NOT robbing GOD. You're a messenger of Satan -- the "father of lies". Your response sure didn't encourage me to become a Tither. :<(

Re-Read what the Bible says about Tithing. In both the Old Testament, and the New Testament.

Only in the Old Testament was Tithing commanded.

Only from the Jews was Tithing commanded.

Only under the Old Testament LAW were non-Tithing folks guilty of robbing GOD.

Thankfully, the LAW came to an end when Jesus Christ came to Earth. We are now living under grace.

No longer was Tithing commanded. Instead, we give cheefully. 5% is fine with me. And, fine with GOD, too!
---Sag on 4/7/12


However, I'm comfortable with my giving 5%. Nothing wrong, or un-Biblical, about that 5%.
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meaning of tithe is 10%

giving 5% is unBiblical you are ROBBING GOD not your "church"

Word of God is not meant for everyone however many appropriate its use then brag about their REASONING to disobey

hypocritical believer who says the name of Christ in vain by not DOING as HE says Rom 3:8 Matt 15:8,9

those without faith REJECT Gods tithe and "give" by their own special rules dismissing Holy Scriptures rules then teach people to disobey "giving whatever they feel comfortable with" most often that is giving nothing ....follow them who do not seek God or follow Gods Word and tithe?
---Rhonda on 4/7/12


10% is an easier number to work with, math-wise. It's easier for people to figure out. Only a matter of moving the decimal over to the left once.
---Gordon on 4/7/12

This is a really silly reason to Tithe. LOL!

I usually give 1/2 of 1/10th, or 5%.

Some churches will preach non-stop about the need for people to Give More than I do.

However, I'm comfortable with my giving 5%. Nothing wrong, or un-Biblical, about that 5%. It's what I feel comfortable giving. :<)

If churches find my 5% to be "Too Little", perhaps they need to look at trimming their budgets a bit.

Example, why do some Pastors need a NEW, 100% church-paid, car every single year? Uh, Oh!
---Sag on 4/7/12




Gordon, your right, some only throw in a dollar. They believe that at least they gave something. And hold on to the rest to buy new t.v. or other things for self joy. But you have to remember we don't know if the Spirit is even in those people. We cannot speak for or against what someone else does. God is interested in our own intentions. And judges us by our own actions. I'm responsible for my own if the Spirit is in me. We cannot tell them, "hey give more you cheap skate"
If these people have no conviction, who are we to convict them of sin? Only the Spirit can convict them of sin.
But the new believer is not under the letter of the Law, as individuals, but under the Spirit of the Law. I'm talking about genuine believers.
---Mark_V. on 4/7/12


Saq, WAY too many Christians do not even give 10%. A number are self-satisfied to toss a dollar bill in the Offering Plate. Giving abundantly is expected from the LORD. And, yes, with a cheerful attitude, not begrudgingly. But, 10% is an easier number to work with, math-wise. It's easier for people to figure out. Only a matter of moving the decimal over to the left once. So, start with a Tithed amount and GIVE MORE as the re-newed heart desires. I'm afraid that if it's not expected by the LORD to give, then, too many would let their fleshly lusts take over and they'd NOT give much, if anything, but, spend their money on their own selves. Well, that's what's happening NOW. Only a SMALL percentage of Church-goers will give even a Tithe or above!
---Gordon on 4/7/12


By the way Jesus did say the giving of tithes should be done in the New Testament.
---Elder on 4/6/12

No He did not. In Matthew 23:23 Jesus refers to the tithe as matters of the law.

The NT is clear that tithing ended at the cross in Hebrews 7:5,12,18.
---Gary on 4/6/12


Mark_V.: "Steven, don't you have anything helpful?"

If it help you get back on the right path to the kingdom of God, then, yes, it is helpful only if you heed what is truly written in the bible.
---Steveng on 4/6/12


When anyone connects tithing with Luke 6:38 how could they be wrong?
We do not "pay" tithes. We give tithes. Tithes are different than offerings. By the way Jesus did say the giving of tithes should be done in the New Testament.
---Elder on 4/6/12


If you are born of the Spirit, the Spirit will convict you when and how you are going to help someone. There is no percentages involve. You might be call to give all, are you might be call to give only a little at any perticular time. The Spirit speaks to our conscience. And we respond to the guidence of the Spirit. It is all about God. If a believer makes a vow, that is different, he should always keep his vows.
---Mark_V. on 4/6/12

Finally, another believer who agrees with me.

Tithing, or giving 10%, went into history once Jesus Christ came to Earth to save us.

Under HIS grace, we give cheerfully as the Spirt leads.

Churchs that preach you MUST give 10%, or else, . . . are preaching a lie.
---Sag on 4/6/12


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Niama - if you give tithes out of your unemployment money and it is wrong to do so - is our God not full of mercy that he will see your heart and desire to obey him (despite the circumstance) and bless you? If you do not give the tithes (and it is my understanding that benefit money is still classed as income) and you walk in disobedience then you will be "cursed with a curse". In the UK in order to receive unemployment benefit you have to provide a job search so "your labour" is exchanged for the benefit (that is why I believe it is income). If you had a million pounds (or dollars) would you not freely give tithe? So why is it different if you have less? God and his word never change. Think about it!!! God bless you
---The_Believer on 4/6/12


Gordon, you are still missing the point. It is about God. It is about Christ. It is not about us. There is no law of tithes for the new believer. None whatsoever, we are not under the letter of the Law. We are under the Spirit of the Law. If you are born of the Spirit, the Spirit will convict you when and how you are going to help someone. There is no percentages involve. You might be call to give all, are you might be call to give only a little at any perticular time. The Spirit speaks to our conscience. And we respond to the guidence of the Spirit. It is all about God. If a believer makes a vow, that is different, he should always keep his vows.
---Mark_V. on 4/6/12


Tithing on any income for a believer is ideal and should be given priority. If all professing believers who attend a church of their choice would tithe, there would never be a need for fund raising of pleas for funds from the finance committee because there would be more than enough.
---Rudy on 4/5/12


If we are in the red at the eom, God seems to give me a rebate whether I pay tithe or not. But if I am not generous, He does not have to be with me.
---aka on 4/5/12


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\\I was giving Gordon the Truth as to how I interpret God's meaning concerning tithes in the Church.\\

God's meaning and how YOU INTERPRET God's meaning may be at least two different things.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 4/5/12


MarkV, You sounded as if you were saying that GOD is not Commanding HIS people to give of their money (to support HIS Kingdom Work on Earth). But, NOW, you seem to be saying that it's the PERCENTAGE AMOUNT that is not commanded of by GOD. So which is it? NO matter, GOD does command HIS people to give. OF COURSE, out of Love, and not to merely "obey a Law". The Apostle Paul received financial support. He was glad that the Church gave, he was glad for THEIR sakes, knowing that they would be rewarded for it someday in Heaven. It's in the Scriptures, Mark. There's not a simple Bible Verse that says "Thou shalt give Financial Support", but, it's IN THERE. Connect the Holy Dots.
---Gordon on 4/5/12


StevenG, There are Ministries that provide FREE BIBLES to people, new Christians, across the Globe, who cannot afford Bibles for themselves. But, it COSTS MONEY to have the Bibles printed and made. Then, it COSTS MONEY to SHIP THEM or to DELIVER THEM to the needy people. You have to PAY FOR YOUR GROCERIES just to eat everyday, DON'T YOU? You have to pay RENT or MORTGAGE to have SHELTER and a ROOF, DON'T YOU? You have to BUY CLOTHES to COVER YOUR NAKEDNESS, DON'T YOU?? These simple things COST MONEY. How much more so, for the Written Word of GOD. It's FREE for the recipients, StevenG. But, it DOES cost SOMEBODY money at some point!
---Gordon on 4/5/12


Gordon, I believe you are incorrect and missed the real point. This is about God right? And God needs nothing to save anyone right? And doesn't God, through the Holy Spirit work through man? God is always working to accomplish His purpose and will. And anything without faith is sin? Faith in whom? Faith in Christ. So anything man does that is good really comes from above right? We are not in the Old Covenant where people were under the Law. If God is not working through you, then you are missing the whole point of the New Covenant. That is why God is more interested in your heart. If you feel convicted to give for the work of His ministry, it is because God is working through you to accomplish His purpose. He doesn't have a percentage amount.
---Mark_V. on 4/5/12


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Steven, don't you have anything helpful? Do you really believe that what you wrote brings glory to God? I was giving Gordon the Truth as to how I interpret God's meaning concerning tithes in the Church. You don't even believe in the Church, the gathering of believers, the body of Christ. You say it is the work of satan. But there is believers in every denomination but you condemned them all. And now you want to speak on behalf of the Church? Isn't that hypocritical? You want to contribute to the very churches you condemned.
Look up church in your computer, and you will know that a place cannot be call a Church of Christ unless there is believers in it. When they walk in, they are the Church.
---Mark_V. on 4/5/12


Mark_V.: "Niama, here is the way I see it."

How about the way God sees it?
---Steveng on 4/4/12


Gordon: "GOD does not rain all of the supplies down from the sky."

Again, sharing the Gospel - the Kingdom of God and how to get there - is FREE, without obligation. Wasn't the apostles to go into the world to preach about the Kingdom of God without taking anything written?
---Steveng on 4/4/12


MarkV, You are TOTALLY missing the point. Of course GOD doesn't need "our" money. HE owns the cattle on a thousand hills. Of course HE owns it all. But, you see, GOD wants us, HIS people, to be an active part, and to be a direct part in HIS Ministry on Earth. You've not heard the expression that we, the Church, are "His hands and His feet."? GOD gives us the ability to work, to earn money. Then, we use part of that money to directly support HIS Ministries on Earth. To help keep them running. Because it COSTS MONEY to supply things. Food, Bibles, Bible Study materials, Ministry Service Centers and Counselling Centers, etc. AGAIN, GOD does not rain all of the supplies down from the sky. He uses US to get HIS Work done, Mark
---Gordon on 4/4/12


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1st Cliff, We are to give our Tithes and Offerings to whomever GOD lays on our hearts to give to. GOD would NEVER influence us to give money to a false cult or to a false religion!
---Gordon on 4/4/12


Gordon, there is no tithes under the New Covanant. God is more interested in the intentions of the heart of the believers. Do you really think that God needs anything to save anyone? He doesn't need money. Every second someone is made alive together with Christ by God. When you speak of expenses in a Church gathering, people should give out of their own hearts. That is because the Spirit convicts the believer, that in order to maintain a place of worship bills have to be paid. God does provide by convicting believers to give when they can. But there is no law that says you have to give 10%. Not under the New Covenant where believers live in Christ, under the Spirit of the Law, not the letter of the Law.
---Mark_V. on 4/4/12


Gordon, Is that what the bible says **Give tithes to "whomever?"**
To the LDS for missionary work?
To Jws for their magazines?
To the Catholic Church?
To Druggies for rehab?
Who does the bible say to give the tithes to?????
---1st_cliff on 4/3/12


1st Cliff, Regarding to give what to whom, I included EVERYTHING in my last comment. The Saints of the Church are, indeed, to give Offerings on behalf of the poor and needy. As well as give Tithes to whomever one gets ministred from, be it a Church, a Pastor, a Teacher, a Prophet, an Evangelist, from whomever! Also, Offerings are to go to assist para-Church Ministries. But, NOT to the greedy Wolves warned about in II PETER 2!
---Gordon on 4/3/12


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Saq, that was an awesome post and so true!!

Whay else would Christ tell us that the harvest is plentiful BUT the workers are feww!?
We need workers to bring into the kigdom those who are lost. That takes all of the things we are blessed with. we are afterall only stewards of what God has provided for us. Our jobs, our talents, everything that we have are to be a blessing and a testimony to others of how great and mighty God is.
That is why I don't just give money. I sing in our church chior, perform on our praise team, all to glorify God. When someone says they love to hear me sing or perform, I say it is not me cause it is not, It is God working through me to grow HIS kingdom!
---ginger on 4/3/12


GOD has Kingdom Work to do on this Earth, before HIS Son YAHUSHUA (JESUS) comes back. That Work costs MONEY
---Gordon on 4/2/12

True!

Never had a single church, or Pastor, explain this.

Churches seem to group people according to who works in SECULAR (non-Ministry) jobs and who actually works in Ministry jobs.

I think that everything can be summed up as follows:


(1) GOD created us ALL and owns everything in the world.

(2) Regardless of where we work, GOD is glorified by our labor. HE deserves a share (cut) of our labor.

(3) Our offerings to GOD can be: Time, Work, Money, Food, etc. ALL is pleasing, and acceptable, to GOD. Because HE owns it all!
---Sag on 4/2/12


Gordon, You're not talking "tithe" here, your talking "alms"
Tithe was never for the poor and needy, Jesus said "the poor you always have with you"
Tithe was the law for the Levite tribe's sustenance,since they had no land,crops, animals etc.!
---1st_cliff on 4/2/12


Biblical tithing was never about money and always about ten percent.
The covenant at Sinai was for crops and cattle only.
All other trades were exempt except the House of Levi, who gave a tenth of the tenth that was given them.
Question: Who is not receiving a land inheritnace from the Lord that we may offer a tenth of our crops and cattle to them to sustain their lives?
---micha9344 on 4/2/12


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MarkV, GOD wants more than our hearts. HE wants ALL of us. That would include our finances. GOD has Kingdom Work to do on this Earth, before HIS Son YAHUSHUA (JESUS) comes back. That Work costs MONEY, Mark. Even to obtain the basics like Bibles and Hymnals cost money. GOD does not just rain these things down from the sky! HE expects HIS people to get involved in HIS Kingdom Work. To use the money, that HE gave us the ability to earn in the first place, for HIS Kingdom Work. To help feed and clothe the poor. To help provide Pro-Life health-care Services for those girls, ladies and women who're considering Abortion. Money for Ministries that help counsel men in Sexual Addiction. All this and MORE. It takes MONEY, Mark.
---Gordon on 4/2/12


Rhonda, you are so wrong again. There is no passage under the New Covenant requiring believers to give a tithe. The fact is that Jesus said,

"But Jesus perceived their wickedness, and said, "Why do you test Me, you hypocrites? Show Me the tax money" So they brought Him a denarius. And He said to them, "whose image and inscription is this? They said to Him, "Caesar's" And He said to them, "Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are "God's."
God is not interested in your tithes. He is interested in the intentions of your heart. For if it is not right with God, you are not one of His sheep no matter how much money you give.
---Mark_V. on 4/2/12


Rhonda: 'As a NON-Believer YOU follow your denomination'

That MAY be true, or it may not be.......

Could you provide a full, Biblical line of evidence to support the fact that Blogger is not a believer? Please not that I am not arguing with you, but the evidence you seem to be using seems to me too little to make such a general statement.

Sorry if I bother you....
---Peter on 4/1/12


Rhonda, your problem is with the new covenant scripture, not with me.
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oh I get it ...I understand that tithing was NOT abolished because there is no Scripture to support that claim

yet you bow down, serve, and worship whichever false denomination promotes the antichrist teaching tithing is abolished

and I'm the one with the "problem" with Scripture?

LOL

As a BELIEVER I follow GODS Word

As a NON-Believer YOU follow your denomination

if YOUR denomination chooses to disobey Holy Scripture than it would truly be YOU who has the problem with Gods Word

although spin it how you wish
---Rhonda on 4/1/12


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Rhonda, your problem is with the new covenant scripture, not with me.
I prefer cheerful giving through relationship rather than a hard nosed legal contract that limits the love I am allowed to express from my heart. You do your 10%. I will bless and bless again. The question God asks in Malachi 3 is not, "Where is YOUR offering?" He asks, "Where is My offering?" His offering was a Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. I'm sorry, Rhonda, but you are so adamant one might think you are trusting in your tithing instead of the blessing based on Jesus alone.
---blogger8980 on 3/31/12


Rhonda, do you even read your Bible or do you:...Hang on a second and I will give the Scripture, inspired by the Holy Ghost and penned by Paul..blogger8980 on 3/30/12
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I love quizes ...okay so "A" cannot apply to me seeing I am not repeating "tithing is abolished"

I see "B" applies to you because YOU teach others to be disobedient to GOD because YOU don't like to tithe and there is NOT ONE VERSE in Holy Scripture that has abolished tithing ...not one!!!

you're a fool for stating GODS HOLY SPIRIT "inspired" Paul write tithing is abolished ...oh but hang on a sec it might be hand-written in "your" bible
---Rhonda on 3/31/12


If a person is unemployed, and they are not earning money, then, they aren't under obligation to tithe something they don't have! That's just obvious! But, if the unemployed person receives money in some other way, as in Unemployment Benefits, or, if they somehow "win" money (in a legal and valid way), OR if someone gives them money, as a gift or as a means of helps, Then, that unemployed person should tithe from that. It's about loving GOD and loving HIS people and helping to support HIS Ministry on Earth.
---Gordon on 3/31/12


"As I understand Scripture, it says that God loves a cheerful giver. We should give out of the abundance God provides for us. If we have any income, we should offer a portion of that to the Lord, as He is our provider. We should also give of the first fruits, not the leftovers after we pay our bills. I hope this helps."
---Trish on 3/26/12


Ditto Trish! :)

"Actually, the church should be helping its members who are unemployed. Ours has done that often."
---Pat.pat on 3/26/12


Christian charity towards one another? Hmmm, now there's a thought! (Jn. 13:34-35) When peoples needs are met they, in turn, give cheerfully from their hearts without being manipulated about a tithe.
---Leon on 3/31/12


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Tithes on what? If you have no income, then no tithe is required (10% of nothing is nothing). You can still give offerings if you have anything to give.


---jerry6593 on 3/31/12


2 Corinthians 8:1-7 KJV

Moreover, brethren, we do you to wit of the grace of God bestowed on the churches of Macedonia, How that in a great trial of affliction the abundance of their joy and their deep poverty abounded unto the riches of their liberality. For to their power, I bear record, yea, and beyond their power they were willing of themselves, Praying us with much intreaty that we would receive the gift, and take upon us the fellowship of the ministering to the saints. And this they did, not as we hoped, but first gave their own selves to the Lord, and unto us by the will of God.

gave themselves to the Lord
then unto us (the ministry)

They even begged Paul to take the over and above what they were able to give.
---blogger8980 on 3/31/12


Niama, here is the way I see it. As Christians we know that to keep a place of gathering for the believers to gather and worship, money is needed to maintain the place. As believers we should give whatsoever we can when we can. There is no law for believers that says you have to give so much or else they will stone you to death or punish you, by whipping you. But if you make a vow to give so much for a certain time, keep your vow. Don't be making promises you cannot keep. Just stop complaining about everything. If it bothers you so much to give to maintain the place you worship, just don't gather. Go home and read your Bible. If reading the Bible bothers you also, don't read it.
---Mark_V. on 3/31/12


2 Corinthians 12:14-15 KJV

Behold, the third time I am ready to come to you, and I will not be burdensome to you: for I seek not yours, but you: for the children ought not to lay up for the parents, but the parents for the children. And I will very gladly spend and be spent for you, though the more abundantly I love you, the less I be loved.

Rhonda, as adamant as you are about 10%, I wonder if you think that is all that belongs to God. I am reminded of that poor widow who gave all in the presence of the high and mighty tithers. Jesus commended her publicly.
---blogger8980 on 3/31/12


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Rhonda, do you even read your Bible or do you:

A. Repeat what someone else who hasn't read his/her Bible has told you or

B. Just make up stuff to counter what you dont like that is in the Bible you don't read.

Hang on a second and I will give the Scripture, inspired by the Holy Ghost and penned by Paul, that states this....and we can be sure if it came from the Holy Ghost, it came from the heart of God.
---blogger8980 on 3/30/12


True Believers LIVE FOR GOD and HIS WAYS which include tithing
---Rhonda on 3/30/12

Tithing is only a requirement for the Jews.

I've talked to some Jews until I was BLUE in the face. Many still don't believe that Jesus Christ came to SAVE people. He was just another Teacher. Not the Messiah.

Well, the commandment to Tithe ended when Jesus Christ came to SAVE us believers. Including Me!

Many Jews have decided to live according to the Old Testament, which includes the commandment to Tithe.

I'm a FREE believer in Jesus Christ who doesn't have to Tithe.

If I ever feel led -- by the Spirit -- to do so, I'll voluntarily give MORE than just a teeny, tiny Tithe.
---Sag on 3/30/12


True believers give themselves first to the Lord and then to the ministry. God desires not yours, but you. If He has you, your possessions aren't an issue
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a very peculiar and interesting babbling from some demented new-age false christian denomination

unbelievers will sell any LIE (including this one) to lead people AWAY FROM GOD

tithing is not required for the unbeliever because they are carnal minded and live for the world

True Believers LIVE FOR GOD and HIS WAYS which include tithing

zero income = zero tithe

10% of zero income is still zero

very simply math
---Rhonda on 3/30/12


True believers give themselves first to the Lord and then to the ministry. God desires not yours, but you. If He has you, your possessions aren't an issue.
---blogger8980 on 3/29/12


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1st Timothy 5:18
For the scripture saith, Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn. And, The labourer is worthy of his reward

We are supposed to give something to the man of God for giving us the word of God. That does not mean he should drive fancy cars or have big expensive house (unless he buys it with a regular job). But the NT says he supposed to get paid his worth in the work he puts into delivering the word of God.
---ginger on 3/29/12


True Believers tithe 10% of their income

Unbelievers are not subject to GODS LAWS and will not tithe and they teach many to follow their disobedience

If your INCOME is ZERO than 10% of ZERO is ZERO

simple math
---Rhonda on 3/29/12

Rhonda, I agree except for one thing. Unbelievers are still subject to God's laws, they just don't think so. In the end, they will be judged according to every one of God's laws.
---Jed on 3/29/12


True Believers tithe 10% of their income

Unbelievers are not subject to GODS LAWS and will not tithe and they teach many to follow their disobedience

If your INCOME is ZERO than 10% of ZERO is ZERO

simple math
---Rhonda on 3/29/12


Giving in the dispensation of grace is based on a willing heart, not legal ordinances. 2 Cor 8:12, 9:7

Tithing is a part of the law and we are not under the law. Rom 6:14, Gal 3:23-25, 5:18
---m_ichael_e on 3/29/12


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paul worked. he did NOT ask or demand money from churches he served. he DID NOT WANT to PUT any burden or HARDSHIP upon god's people. ACTS 20:33-35 they were not to covet riches or material possessions, they were to meet their own needs financially by working with their hands. if you are unemployed why are you giving your money to those WHO DO NOT WANT TO WORK.
---mike on 3/29/12


I see no one ventured to answer my question because they don't know the answer.
Who,today, is authorized to accept the tithe.
What are they instructed to do with it?
The 11 tribes had land,the Levis didn't, the tithe was to support the Levite tribe .
They don't exist today!
Ah,but the modern Pastor is not going to kill the cash cow!
---1st_cliff on 3/29/12


I give "tithes" out of my unemployment. I give what God lays on my heart to give.

The "tithe" is no longer in effect as it was in the ot. In the nt, 2 cor. 9:6-8

"But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly, and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.

Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give, not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.

And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:"
---ginger on 3/29/12


Have you not read about Ananias and his wife? Acts 5:1-11

Have you not read about the poor widow and the two copper coins? Lk 21:1-3

Have you not read about Jacob vowing a vow? Gen 28:22

Abraham gave a tenth part of what? Heb 7:2, Neh 10:35-37

Have you not read that we must honor God with our firstfruits? Pv 3:9

Have you not read that a tenth is Holy unto God? Lev 27:32

Have you not read to give according to what you have? 2 Cor 8:10-12

Are you willing to sell what you own and give to the less fortunate? Mt 19:20-22, Gal 2:10,

Do you not trust God to supply our needs to help the less fortunate? 1 Kings

Also read: Pv 19:17, Lk 6:30, 2 Cor 9:7, Phile 21
---Steveng on 3/28/12


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God is able.
---willie_c: on 3/28/12


And in my opinion, and practice, you should tithe on the gross income instead of the net income.
---wivv on 3/28/12

Abraham tithed on the NET spoils of war, not the gross. God commanded His tithe be taken from the NET crops and NET animals, not the gross.
---Gary on 3/28/12


The tithe is 10% of your earnings, if you have no income, (of any kind), you have nothing to tithe. If you are receiving ANY form of income, SS, unemployment, help from the family, this should be tithed. And in my opinion, and practice, you should tithe on the gross income instead of the net income.
---wivv on 3/28/12


In Deut 14:22-29 God related to food etc because that was their livelihood. These days its money because that is ours. This is the BEST time to give tithes (when you are unemployed). Don't allow fear to make you walk in disobedience. You trusted God when you were working - trust God when you are not. He will provided!! Mal 3v6 says "I am the Lord, I change not". Dig deep, trust God and pay your tithes FIRST and watch God overload you with continuous miracles. Remember God is NOT a man that he should "LIE". God Bless You
---The_Believer on 3/28/12


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We give back to God a tenth of what he blesses us with. His blessings never ceases whether you are employed or unemployed.So as long as He blesses you through other means give back to him in tithe. When i was a student i payed a tenth of whatever money i was given by my parents and God had nice and pleasant ways of making more people to give to me.
---adeba5968 on 3/28/12


God never reserved a tenth of anyone's income for Himself.
---Gary on 3/27/12
PAY is a translated word

You CANNOT pay someone from what is already theirs

ALL belongs to God
Exodus 34:19 All that openeth the matrix [is] mine, and every firstling among thy cattle, [whether] ox or sheep, [that is male].

Leviticus 25:23 The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land [is] mine,
---francis on 3/28/12


RAY
RETURN
GIVE
DONATE

call it what you want just do it
---francis on 3/28/12


We do not PAY tithes or GIVE tithes. We return to God 10% of what is already his, what is holy to Him, to do his work
---francis

Matthew 23:23 - PAY tithe.

Hebrews 7:9 - Levi PAYED tithes.

God never reserved a tenth of anyone's income for Himself.
---Gary on 3/27/12


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Hebrews 7:8 And here men that die receive tithes, but there he ( JESUS) receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he( JESUS) liveth.

Leviticus 27:30 And all the tithe of the land, is the LORD'S: it is holy unto the LORD

We do not PAY tithes or GIVE tithes. We return to God 10% of what is already his, what is holy to Him, to do his work
---francis on 3/27/12


Christians are NEVER commanded to Tithe!

The Jews of the OLD TESTAMENT were under the Law. Which included Tithing.

Once Jesus Christ came to Earth, his followers were RELEASED from the Law. Including the commandment to Tithe. At least I've been RELEASED.

GOD loves a Cheerful Giver. I'm sure HE is more satisfied with my giving 1% with a Heart full of joy than my giving 10% with a Heart of bitterness. Really!

At the same time, the more we joyfully Give, the more GOD will bless us.

Still, I believe that all our giving needs to be out of JOY! Not mis-understanding the Old Testament.
---Sag on 3/27/12


Read Deut. 14:22-29. In ALL cases, the Biblical tithe was to be EATEN. It was always food, never money or from anyone's earnings.
---Gary on 3/27/12

If we broaden our bible reading to include the first mention of tithes It would show that Abram returned the spoils of war as tithe


Genesis 14:16 And he brought back all the goods,
Genesis 14:20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.
---francis on 3/27/12


Read Deut. 14:22-29. In ALL cases, the Biblical tithe was to be EATEN. It was always food, never money or from anyone's earnings.

The Biblical tithe was NEVER the first of anything. It was the tenth - the LAST ONE out of every ten. See Leviticus 27:32.
---Gary on 3/27/12


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God doesn't need money. However if you tithe at your church then it is to help store up for those in need. If you don't receive any money then you can't tithe money, but you can still give your time in other ways.
---Candice on 3/27/12


Lawrence, Who is authorised to accept the 10% on God's behalf?
How are they appointed?
How does scripture say this money is to be spent and for who's benefit?
---1st_cliff on 3/27/12


10% of 0 is 0. But you still have the time God has gave you. If your receiving un - empl - benefits, still, you give, NOT pay, you give 10% .
---Lawrence on 3/27/12


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