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I think everyone else understood what you were saying, Kathr.

Sometimes when backed into a corner, people lash out because its all they have.
---LindaH on 6/10/12


Mark, it is evident you cannot rightly divide the Word. In the Old Covenant, God dealt with Israel to preserve the blood line until the seed came. The Gentiles were never under the law to begin with but a stranger could partake of the Passover with the Israelites if he desired to do so. Once the seed came and the wrath of God was laid on Him for the sins of the whole world, all have the same opportunity to believe the gospel since faith comes when it is preached. God is no respecter of persons. You are though and that tells me you don't know Him.
---blogger8980 on 6/10/12


marv, kathr was not talking about the faith. she was talking about the vehicle of the faith: word of mouth.

isn't that one of the only two ways to spread the Word? (the other is by example.)
---aka on 6/10/12


Again MarkV, you twist again based on your own ineptness to grasp what someone is saying.

I gave what the definition of FAITH IS, not a definition of Santa Clause.

The faith of a little child...

What could be more innocent and without GUILE as you have, than that of a little child.

Your problem is, you can't deal with Jesus words, that one must have the faith of a little child.

OK smartie smartie know it all Marty....what is your definition of the faith of a little child???
---kathr4453 on 6/10/12


Kathr, you gave one of the dumbest examples I have seen concerning true faith, you said,
"The same FAITH a child has in believing in Santa Clause is the exact same faith one needs to believe Jeusus died and rose again for our sin."
You mentioned the same faith, when that faith is false? believing in Santa Claus is a false faith, for they don't exist. And you had just said,
"How do they know they exist (although we know they don't)..." Your example is rediculous. You suggest for people to have the same faith as children believing there is a Santa Claus where there is none. If we believed like that there would be no Christ.
---Mark_V. on 6/10/12




Blogger89, I don't expect you to believe the Truth, you cannot understand it, because you are unable to. That's why you don't make an effort to know the Truth. "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish, but have eternal life"
If God so loveth the whole world, every individual, why was the gospel not given to the Gentiles until the New Testament? All in history died without the gospel. "There went out a decree from Caesar Augustus that all the world should be enrolled..and all went to enrolled themselves" (Luke 2:1,3). Yet we know the writer only had in mind only that comparatively small part of the world which was controlled by Rome.
---Mark_V. on 6/10/12


Exactly Blogger. Jesus said one must have the faith of a child. Well then, if faith is given, no such requirement is necessary. Yes, the faith of a child, not the faith of one who has a PHD in redefined words.

Here is an example of the faith of a child, SANTA CLAUSE, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth fairy. Can a child believe in these?

How do they know they exist (although we know they don't)...WORD OF MOUTH right!

The same FAITH a child has in believing in Santa Clause is the exact same faith one needs to believe Jeusus died and rose again for our sin.

There is no rocket science here, or supernatural ears given.
---kathr4453 on 6/9/12


"I'm only responsible for bringing the Truth to you" MarkV

You can only bring the truth if you know Him who is Truth. All you know is a doctrine. You are the only person I know of who denies that the word "all" means all, the word "man" means mankind, and the word "world" means world. When you have to redefine basic everyday words a three year old would understand, it is clear you delight in your deceptive doctrine rather than Truth. Your doctrine is your god.
---blogger8980 on 6/9/12


Kathr, you don't have to join Craig, you are joined at the hip already.

Blogger89, when I said I speak for myself, I was saying when we stand before God. I won't be able to speak for you. I'm only responsible for bringing the Truth to you, not to make you change your mind, are convince you that you are wrong. God takes care of the rest. God's word tells us, "Without God, you can do nothing." And here is what God's Word has to say about your theology on "free will."
"But we are all like a unclean thing. And all our righteousness are like filthy rags" So your free will is nothing but filthy rags.
---Mark_V. on 6/9/12


Craig, the Truth hurts doesn't it? Especially when someone mentions it. People run away from it. They feel convicted by the Word of God. They blame everyone except themselves. You said you are done with me, but I suspect I will again hear from you. Have a nice day,

Adios amigo, asta la vista.
---Mark_V. on 6/7/12

MarkV, CraigA is just obeying God...after two or three admonitions REJECT!!!

That's what he's doing ..rejecting you and your twist on salvation.

Your sword has been sprinkled with salt-peter...powerless!

Maybe we should all obey as CraigA...leave you to your own devices. Yes, YOU will have to answer to God for your words.
---kathr4453 on 6/8/12




MarkV, if that is all you are hearing after all that has been presented by those here, you are dull of hearing. When you say you speak for yourself, you are absolutely right. Unfortunately, speaking for yourself is not the same as speaking for God.
---blogger8980 on 6/8/12


Blogger89, I'm only hearing how you feel about me, as a person, but no passages that you have that I have twisted. Bring them on. I do not run away. I have put down thousands of passages with the context.
If you as others want to call me names I cannot not stop you. I do not speak for you, I speak for myself what I have learned about God, and I will not stand in front of God for you. You have to do that on your own. Take out your sword if you are a man of God.
---Mark_V. on 6/7/12


"People talk, but in their hearts they refuse the very God who saves them."

You sure do. As I have said before, I could present scripture after scripture and it would make no difference because deception has blinded you. You can search the scriptures (the Pharisees did and still didn't know Him) and make them say anything you want them to say, but if what you see is not Christ and God's redemptive plan for the whole world, you only think you have eternal life. Eternal life is knowing the Father and Jesus Christ whom He sent. When you say God only heals some and not others or saves some and not others, you don't know Him. You only know what you see. Blessed are they who believe yet have not seen.
---blogger8980 on 6/7/12


Blogger89, what you said is true, you said,

"The truth of Jesus never hurts. Knowing it makes a man free"

The question is, do you believe it by faith even when it goes against your own theology and what you were taught? People talk, but in their hearts they refuse the very God who saves them. And I am not talking about unbelievers, they care less about God. It's those called Christians who want to take the glory of the Lord for themselves. There is no twisting of words in the Truth. You tell me what words were twisted. You talk and say, as if you know, why not discuss them, instead of blaming me for bringing the Truth to you. I am not running away. I know who my God is, and He is sovereign Lord of heaven and earth.
---Mark_V. on 6/7/12


The truth of Jesus never hurts. Knowing it makes a man free. Your doctrine is not truth. It leaves unanswered questions that require the twisting of some Scripture and the exclusion of others to explain. You contradict your own theology by trying to convince people you say have no spiritual ears to hear it. I am all for leaving you to your own deception since it is a gross misrepresentation of God the Father, Jesus the Son, and the Comforter and Teacher the Holy Ghost.
---blogger8980 on 6/7/12


Craig, the Truth hurts doesn't it? Especially when someone mentions it. People run away from it. They feel convicted by the Word of God. They blame everyone except themselves. You said you are done with me, but I suspect I will again hear from you. Have a nice day,

Adios amigo, asta la vista.
---Mark_V. on 6/7/12


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MarkV, Im done with you.

You twist my words, the same as you do everyone elses (and the Lords for that matter).

This is very likely the reason people begin to ignore you. Adios!
---CraigA on 6/6/12


You just have to give them a lasting memory of what TRUE love is, so that when they hit rock bottom by searching for love in the wrong ways, they remember the love of Jesus as it was evident in the parents lives.

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it (Prov 22:6)
---CraigA on 6/6/12

Unconditional Love!

AWESOME!! and so very true!
---kathr4453 on 6/6/12


CraigA: "We are passionate about Jesus Christ, not election."

Who are we to worship Jesus or God?
---Steveng on 6/5/12

I guess I dont understand the question since Jesus IS God.

For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. (Col 2:9)

God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. (1 Tim 3:16)
---CraigA on 6/6/12


How do you save our children in this world today?

You pray and ask the Lord to protect them and for him to help you set a living example for them. You cannot shelter them from the reality of this sinful world. They are going to rebel eventually. Its in their nature and those teen hormones! You just have to give them a lasting memory of what TRUE love is, so that when they hit rock bottom by searching for love in the wrong ways, they remember the love of Jesus as it was evident in the parents lives.

Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it (Prov 22:6)
---CraigA on 6/6/12


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Craig, you said:
"Ummm, Mark, why would our hearts be hardened by God when we are passionate about Jesus Christ?"

If you were passionate about Christ, you would speak about what He did for you, not what you have done for Him. You speak that your own marits, your own faith, that with your own breath, you gave Him permission to come into your heart. Heck, you are taking the glory. What a great guy you were to allow Christ into your heart. You should be crown Lord of all. You have what the RCC teaches, that Christ is not the Head of the Church, man is. In your case you are. Take a bow. In fact, all of you who speak for man should take a bow.
---Mark_V. on 6/6/12


CraigA: "We are passionate about Jesus Christ, not election."

Who are we to worship Jesus or God?
---Steveng on 6/5/12


The Gospel is perfetly laid out right from the beginning of Scripture, Abel and Cain. NOWHERE is election to salvation taught in that of Cain and Abel. If in fact Jesus only died, or was forordained to die/blood for the ELECT?? why then would God give Cain a SECOND CHANCE to do what was right..that was to make a blood sacrifice, looking forward to the comming Messiah. That should be proof enough Jesus shed His blood for ALL MEN EVERYWHERE. Cain shows someone who CHOSE not to OBEY. Was Cain blinded, or not given spiritual ears to hear, or needing his man spirit rebirthed first? NO SUCH DOCTRINE is even remotely suggested in Scripture.

The ONLY thing opposite of FAITH is believing the Law can save you. It's The WORKS OF THE LAW VS FAITH.
---kathr4453 on 6/5/12


MarkV and company fail to grasp Jacob INHERITED by birthright the blessing. Isaac was tricked...hummm, did Isaac not have faith or ears to hear?

We are not saved by any birthright or our physical fathers laying hands on us giving us a blessing. Where in that blessing did Isaac tell Jacob God Saved him, and was going to send Esau to hell. READ THE BLESSING FOLKS!

The blessing, passed down from Abraham to Isaac then to Jacob was not for individual salvation, but to fulfill those promises given to Abraham.

Yes people do not harden your hearts to believe God did not die for you sin. Jesus died for the sin of all men everywhere.

It's now up to YOU to place your faith in Jesus Christ. The faith of Abraham is NOT A WORK!!!
---kathr4453 on 6/5/12


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Ummm, Mark, why would our hearts be hardened by God when we are passionate about Jesus Christ? Given what YOU believe, if we are passionate about Christ it was Gods doing! You contradict yourself so often you make yourself look like a fool. You are a very confused man.

We are passionate about Jesus Christ, not election.
You are making belief in election the basis for salvation. Which basically means we must believe that the Trinity is no different than The Fates of Greek mythology. That sir makes you a heretic in my book. There is nothing further to say to you. You been admonished many times by many different followers of Jesus Christ and you still persist.

I for one will not waste any more of my time. (Titus 3:10,11)
---CraigA on 6/5/12


You say you don't need it, the reason you are having trouble with the Truth. Remember, you said you came to Christ with no faith, expecting to get everyone if by your own works you excepted Christ.
---Mark_V. on 6/5/12


Sorry MarkV, I did come by faith...however you did not. Show us where Jacob had faith. Since you consider yourself elect like Jacob, then show where Jacob personally was given ears to hear. No such scripture exists.

We however have the faith of Abraham, that is believing God's Word.

You underestimate the Power of God's word alone, by stating God needs help in doing something to you first to hear.

Anyone can hear..."For God so lived the World"....
---kathr4453 on 6/5/12


Blogger89, I've spoken the Truth to you also and have wrote it down. I even under lined the sections you should pay attention to. I know the answers I give you, you will reject them. You, Craig, Kathr, and Ginger, all of you believe in "the free will of man" I know you will not change, but others who read who believe as you, who are passionate about Christ, whose hearts have not been hardened yet, might want to read the passages, and decide to make their salvation sure. God took care of my soul, for I know who saved me, God did.

Kathr, by the way, my daughter and my sons, even the one lost, are all in God's hands, not mine. Even you are. He holds everyone's life in His hands whether you believe it or not.
---Mark_V. on 6/5/12


Craig, let me make my answer more clear this time. Any Truth I present to you, comes from the Word of God. I cannot make you believe it.

The problem here is that you don't speak the truth. You speak what you think is true.
---blogger8980 on 6/5/12


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PRAISE GOD! But that doesn't mean he's lost MarkV, it only means he's rejected your cult. Do you also curse him like you curse the rest of us here who disagree with you?
---kathr4453 on 6/5/12


Took the words right out of my mouth.
---CraigA on 6/5/12


Mark, I love how you ceased to UNbold your own words added amidst that scripture and even went so far as to UNDERLINE them. I think that speaks volumes to how you value your own words as much as, if not more than God's.
---CraigA on 6/2/12


That's why there is no power in your words MarkV. I know this subject must be painful for you since your own child is not saved. Is this the Gospel you actually preached to him, and he rejected it?

PRAISE GOD! But that doesn't mean he's lost MarkV, it only means he's rejected your cult. Do you also curse him like you curse the rest of us here who disagree with you?
---kathr4453 on 6/5/12


Craig, let me make my answer more clear this time. Any Truth I present to you, comes from the Word of God. I cannot make you believe it.
Then I spoke of faith, how it comes from hearing, and hearing by the word of God. If someone, not you personally, does not have hearing, they have no faith, if they have no faith, they continue to go to hell.
Second, I don't know if you are saved or not. I can speculate by your answers, but I can never truely know. Only God knows. So I was not saying you were not saved. That is up to God. It was a figure of speech I was speaking with, and I did not make myself clear. Sorry for that.
---Mark_V. on 6/5/12


Steven, you don't like the Truth of God's Word and I can see why.
You speak against the Church of Christ, your Truth is not Truth. There is many denominations who do not teach the gospel of Christ, many others do. We are called to edify the Church of Christ. The spiritual church needs no edification, the visible Church does, we should not trash it, as you do.

Kathr,
You do need spiritual hearing, and that hearing comes from God.
"Faith comes from hearing, "hearing by the Word of God"
You say you don't need it, the reason you are having trouble with the Truth. Remember, you said you came to Christ with no faith, expecting to get everyone if by your own works you excepted Christ.
---Mark_V. on 6/5/12


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Mark_V.: "Kathr, you are doing more talk and no passages. Talk is cheap. State your arguement and give your passage."

This proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that you are definately a worldly christian. You dislike spiritual context and insist upon chapter and verse. You dislike paraphrasing and insist upon chapter and verse. Did Jesus or the apostles quote chapter and verse or did they paraphrase? Did the Bereans insist that Paul give chapter and verse? No, they searched the entire scriptures to see if what Paul said was true. There is an added benefit from doing your own searches, you come across other bits and pieces of information that you would not otherwise learn from your denominational churches.
---Steveng on 6/4/12


I know you hate it when people tell you so, but you are VERY wrong about that!

You are the hands and feet of Christ. Christ is living in you. Yes, GOD is living IN you. Your words CAN convict the lost IF you are listening to the guidance of the Spirit, because HE know what words will reach someone.

The methods you use make the difference but we have to listen to Gods voice in order to know how to reach people. (Jude 1:22,23)

Jesus says "Go"! Do you say "Why? I cant convince anyone! ---CraigA on 6/4/12

Amen Craig. Then again, he who does not confess that Jesus IS COME (present tense) in the flesh (we are bone of His bone and flesh of His flesh) is antichrist.
---blogger8980 on 6/4/12


"and hearing by the word of God", you will continue heading to hell no matter if you believe it or not.
---Mark_V on 6/4/12


And this is coming from a Christian.

No wonder the lost world is confused.

If you TRULY believe the word of God you will ACT on it. If you don't, then you don't believe it.
---CraigA on 6/4/12


Only the Lord can bring faith, and unless He gives you spiritual hearing you will not receive faith since faith comes from hearing, "and hearing by the word of God", you will continue heading to hell no matter if you believe it or not.
---Mark_V. on 6/4/12

You can't get any more spiritual than God's Word. The Word of God is LIVING and POWERFUL and stronger than a two edge sword. And it's the Holy Spirit who empowers the Word of God.

MarkV, all your talk talk talk has no power. You put a negative spin on the Word of God...a wet blanket as you twist God's word. God does not empower twisted words. No scripture says God has to give you spiritual hearing. HIS WORD is spiritual enough!
---kathr4453 on 6/4/12


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Craig, I do not mind what you believe. In fact, I cannot do anything about it. God has to convict you that what you are doing is wrong. I cannot convict anyone.
---MarkV

I know you hate it when people tell you so, but you are VERY wrong about that!

You are the hands and feet of Christ. Christ is living in you. Yes, GOD is living IN you. Your words CAN convict the lost IF you are listening to the guidance of the Spirit, because HE know what words will reach someone.

The methods you use make the difference but we have to listen to Gods voice in order to know how to reach people. (Jude 1:22,23)

Jesus says "Go"!
Do you say "Why? I cant convince anyone!
---CraigA on 6/4/12


Now we knoe the Holy Spirit has TWO entirely different reactions upon a soul....one who ends up like Cain, or the Pharisees who certainly were pricked to their hearts and MURDERED those who brought the truth including Jesus, or those who repent in humility.

PRAY constantly for your children today. Even Christian schools have issues!
---kathr4453 on 6/4/12


Jeremiah 18:4
And the vessel that he made of clay was marred in the hand of the potter: so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it.

Jeremiah 18:6
O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter's hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.

Both FROM Isaiah and Jeremiah Paul is quoting in Romans 9-11..that concerning Israel.


Remember at that time Gentiles:
Ephesians 2:12
That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
---kathr4453 on 6/4/12


Kathr, you are doing more talk and no passages. Talk is cheap. State your arguement and give your passage.

Craig, I do not mind what you believe. In fact, I cannot do anything about it. God has to convict you that what you are doing is wrong. I cannot convict anyone. Only the Lord can grant repentance. And since many are heading to hell, they have not been granted repentance. Only the Lord can bring faith, and unless He gives you spiritual hearing you will not receive faith since faith comes from hearing, "and hearing by the word of God", you will continue heading to hell no matter if you believe it or not.
---Mark_V. on 6/4/12


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MarkV is still twisting that verse that says God Grants repentance.

Again MarkV, read all of that verse, before and after. Paul is stating that to the GENTILES God has granted repentance to salvation. Remember, you were grafted in. You were NEVER part of any original lump of the Elect.

Every time WE preach the Gospel to anyone, the Holy Spirit through us brings conviction of sin to who we witness to. The Holy Spirit works THROUGH US.

However, since YOU don't know that's how God works through His Body, (we are His arms, legs mouth etc now on earth, it's obvious you don't know what and WHY the Gifts of the Spirit are given to us.

I believe Evangelism is one of those gifts.
---kathr4453 on 6/3/12


ginger, you are wrong. The Holy Spirit does not convict every single person of sin---MarkV

And when He is come, He will reprove the world of sin... Of sin because they believe not on me ---John 16:8,9

Hmmm who to believe...
---CraigA on 6/3/12


No Markv, the Holy spirit DOES convict ALL of sin. The thing is people can choose God or not. That is scripture. You can like it or lump it BUT please oh please STOP twisting scripture. God says he makes out of the SAME lump. That means BEFORE I got saved I was a vessel of dishonor. After I got saved I became a vessel of honor. (He same lump Markv. You twist scripture so bad you need help.
---ginger on 6/3/12


Get them saved. First you share the gospel with them, that Jesus is the only salvation for a soul, then ask them if they want salvation and the kingdom of heaven. If they say Yes, then lead them in prayer of surrendering and confessing their sins, and their need for God's salvation, and lead them up to Jesus to invite Jesus into their heart and their life and to be the Lord of their life from that moment on and for the rest of their life forever. They will need a Holy Bible to read, and a Christian church to attend, and to get baptized, and to pray to Jesus every day.
---Eloy on 6/3/12


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ginger, you are wrong. The Holy Spirit does not convict every single person of sin, only those who are granted repentance by God. They will believe and they will repent. He convicts the world (mankind) of sin, not every single person.
"God may perhaps grant that they will repent and come to know the Truth, and they my escape from the snare of the devil, after being captured by him to do his will" (2Tim. 2:25.26).
Why do you not believe? Maybe God has not granted you repentance so that you too can come to know the Truth.
Because it seems like you reject the Truth for one reason or another.
---Mark_V. on 6/2/12


not true markv, the holy spirit covicts all of sin. hs was poured out on all. scripture very clear on these. stop twisting scripture!
---ginger on 6/2/12


Mark, I love how you ceased to UNbold your own words added amidst that scripture and even went so far as to UNDERLINE them. I think that speaks volumes to how you value your own words as much as, if not more than God's.
---CraigA on 6/2/12


Craig, it is God who convicts the hearts of those who will be saved. My God needs permission from no one. God does not convict every heart, for many do not see their sin. It is not up to man but up to God.
Second, "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, only the elect have the promise, the "Belove" in (v. 8) he is talking to. As some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward "us" not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance" (2 Peter 3:9)
All of the "Beloved" the "us," "believers and those who will believe." Once all of them have come to repentance, the books closed and the Second Coming will occure.
---Mark_V. on 6/1/12


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Mark, you said it yourself... the Spirit convicts us of our sins so that we can repent. You know why the Spirit convicts us? Not to rub it in as "Christan" suggests! Because God REQUIRES REPENTANCE! God wants us to see the err of our ways and turn to him for forgiveness AND the power to change!

No repentance, no salvation! God is not mocked! You WILL reap what you sow!

Be very careful whom you call impotent and wimpy. That same God is being long-suffering with you giving YOU a chance to repent.
---CraigA on 5/31/12


Craig, if your god wants to save everyone and man will not allow Him to because they (man) have to repent in order for god to help him, then your god is not God. He is impotent.
My God is saving people everyday, by first allowing the Spirit to bring spiritual life to those who are spiritually dead in sin, by bringing conviction to them so they can see their sin and repent.
I can see again by your answer you wanted me to stop talking about God and at least talk about the power man has over God. That is what you and others didn't like. It bothers you that my God is omnipotent. You don't want Him to be. "If salvation was left up to man, he would never be saved since the Spirit convicts us of sin, the reason we repent.
---Mark_V. on 5/31/12


Mark_V.: "...He just doesn't show His love to everyone the same."

He loves ALL his creation the same as the rain falls on everyone. Are we not told to love God, our neighbors, and even our enemies? God does not want anyone to go to hell, but it's up to the person to knock so Jesus will come in. It's the person who needs to take the first step toward establishing a genuine relationship with God. God does not pick and choose who will follow him. He does pick and choose who he wants to become an apostle, a teacher, or even a prophet from among all the christians.
---Steveng on 5/30/12


Mark_V.: "Steven, I am taking a sabbical everyday, studying Scripture. I suggest you do the same."

I stopped studying thirty years ago. There is a time in a person's life when one goes from studying to doing, for love is a verb not a noun. A person's faith is made perfect by serving God, by performing works, for faith without works is dead faith.

As I stated before you need to take a six month sabbatical to establish a relationship with God. Sure, you have the knowledge of God, you have worldly knowledge of the Words of God, it shows in your writing, but you deny his power. Put God's power of love to work.
---Steveng on 5/30/12


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Amen Craig!!!

john 3:16
For God so loved the WORLD he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOEVER BELIEVES in Him should not perish but have everlasting life

2 peter 3:9
The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, NOT WILLING that any should perish but that ALL should come to repentance.

MarkV does not know what to do with verses like this.
He went from one extreme to another. Looking for religion NOT A righteous God.
He should have stayed with rcc, they are closer to the truth.
---ginger on 5/30/12


God doesn't want to save everyone, He is God and if He wanted to save everyone He would save everyone. He is not the whimp you guys teach
--MarkV

He doesnt save everyone because not everyone will repent of their sins

Luke 13:5

And yes He does want all men to be saved.

2 Peter 3:9, 1 Tim 4:10, 1 Tim 2:4
---CraigA on 5/30/12


Cluny, of course I do. The Spirit got me out of my idol worship that the RCC and Eastern Orthodox teach. I was deep in idol worship. That was the first work of the Spirit in my life. The second, was that the Spirit testified to me concerning Jesus Christ and who He is. Convicted me of my sin, and allowed me to see that what I was learning was false to the core at the RCC. The Spirit freed me from the bondage I was in. So yes to your answer. And now the Spirit moves me to teach the Truth to you and others, to study it, write it down for you, and also to love you no matter what you teach. It's wonderful feeling.
---Mark_V. on 5/30/12


Craig, get it right, God hates no one. He just doesn't show His love to everyone the same. If you were born in Samalia, you would know the truth. God doesn't want to save everyone, He is God and if He wanted to save everyone He would save everyone. He is not the whimp you guys teach. I run towards the Lord not away from Him. You want me to stop because it bothers you, because the Truth convicts your heart. Otherwise you would love to talk about the Lord and His Word. You would say, "Mark, lets keep talking about the Lord" But you say for me to stop talking about the Lord. To maybe read material where man is in control. Sorry, but God is in control.
---Mark_V. on 5/30/12


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But you guys are the opposite. You want others, like me, to stop speaking about God ---MarkV

No Mark. We simply agree that you need to stop thinking of yourself as a teacher of the truth and go back into the word of God to find what you have missed.

You remind me of a member of Westboro Baptist but your sign reads "God hates anyone that I don't want to be saved"
---CraigA on 5/29/12


Mark_V.: "This way you will not tell anyone you can save people. God saves people."

Jesus came into this world to save sinners, but who did He teach to carry on His commission? A person's faith saves that person. What must a person do to be saved? And by whose decision? The christian, who converts the sinner from the error of his way, shall save a soul from death and shall hide a multitude of ones own sins. So start saving as many people as possible for the harvest is plenty, but the workers are few. Time is very, very short.

James 5:20
1 Corinthians 9:22
1 Timothy 4:16
---Steveng on 5/29/12


Hi Tiffany,
There are two salvations taught in the scriptures.

Timely:
Acts2:40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
Exod14:13 And Moses said unto the people, Fear ye not, stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which he will shew to you to day: for the Egyptians whom ye have seen to day, ye shall see them again no more for ever.

Eternal:
Isa53:11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many, for he shall bear their iniquities.
Heb5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him.
---trey on 5/29/12


\\you give evidence of the lack of fruit that is produced by the Spirit.\\

You don't actually think that YOU have any fruit of the Spirit, do you, MarkV?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/29/12


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\\A mother helps the child before,\\

Just how is a child helped or trained before pregnancy, as it does not exist yet?

Or are you using English words in a way with which I am unfamiliar?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/29/12


Craig, when you and others speak, you give evidence of the lack of fruit that is produced by the Spirit. When a person is born of God, he loves to hear the Word of God, and wants to learn by reading, asking questions, and cannot stop speaking about God.
But you guys are the opposite. You want others, like me, to stop speaking about God. So when someone doesn't like to hear the Word they want you to stop. And others who don't want to hear either, the first thing they do is 'amen' the other person who wants you to stop also. That's the first clue. When I preach the gospel at work, the minute I start preaching God's Word, many get up and run, others get angry and don't want to hear about God. Now you want me to stop just like they do.
---Mark_V. on 5/29/12


Mark_V, I suggest that you take a six month sabbical to read the bible thoroughly.--Stevenq

Amen to THAT, Steven.
---CraigA on 5/29/12


Steven, I am taking a sabbical everyday, studying Scripture. I suggest you do the same. This way you will not tell anyone you can save people. God saves people. Instead of persecuting the Church of Jesus Christ, you should join one. They have Bible studies.
---Mark_V. on 5/29/12


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Mark_V., I suggest that you take a six month sabbical to read the bible thoroughly.
---Steveng on 5/28/12


Steven, you said to Cluny,

"The work of a christian is to save people from eternal hell by introducing the gospel - if you truly know what the gospel is."

It's the other way around Steven.
"If you truly know what the gospel is"
you would know "you cannot save anyone from eternal hell, only Jesus Christ who is God and man can save anyone from eternal hell."

We "should teach our children about the gospel of Jesus Christ," but it's up to God to save those who hear the gospel Truth, for faith comes from hearing, hearing the Word of God.
---Mark_V. on 5/28/12


Cluny not trying to be mean but they GOT to hear about him first. I agree with steveng.
If they don't know, then how will they be saved by Christ?

In fact scripture says " how will they hear without a preacher".
The gospel has to be preached. Taught..
for people to get the truth.
THe truth comes from hearing and it comes by hearin the word of God. The word of God has to be spoken about, taught about, preached about.
Otherwise they will never know and may never get saved.
---ginger on 5/28/12


Cluny: "Same way you save anyone else.

You don't.

Only JESUS saves."

The work of a christian is to save people from eternal hell by introducing the gospel - if you truly know what the gospel is.

A mother helps the child before, during and after pregnancy to train in the way it should go.
---Steveng on 5/27/12


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Children today are bombarded with all kings of messages - both good and bad, but mostly bad for satan has only a short time left before Jesus returns and he's doing all in his power to corrupt the children. It's up to the parents to continually train the child in the way he or she should go morning, noon and night. Parents must not teach, but simply talk about the gospel, about Jesus, about God the Father, about love, about how a person is rewarded when good and how a person is punished when bad. Most of what a child learns is while still in the womb until the age of seven. While the child may not understand what the parent is saying, the messages are stored in the mind.

And remember: the family who prays together, stays together.
---Steveng on 5/27/12


Hi,my contributions Now-as kids are the follow'n:1. I have always stood for kids/elderly people,my family(afrikan grandma) 2. Any given time I will go out & pick dangerous objects left in childrens reach(sadly ) dirty syringes/a "street trash/shanks,anything(bad & small things)bottles... One time a teenager ask me..Why you doing that? I said "Somebody got to care about you children"...3.there have been times I been threatened for looking out for kids! (there is a good side to bipolar) yes! I have NO qualms to tell someone/That yes,I am watching & not let anyone get away with try'n to "get close to a small child or underage!"
---ELENA on 5/26/12


Pray, pray and PRAY some more!
When I was a child, my parents taught me about God and Jesus.
My grandmother did too.
When I grew up, I strayed for a little while, but I realized what they said was truth.
When one tells their children the truth..which is Christ, they may depart for a little while, but God says they will come back.
So keep praying and give them to God. he will fix it. I think I was talking to Cluny about this in another blog about my daughter. God has done work in her I could never have done. And he is still working. Some children choose the hard way. But when God gets finished with them, they will shine like Gold!
---ginger on 5/19/12


Tiffany, Cluny is correct. We cannot save anyone concerning heaven, only God can.
We can bring our children up teaching them the gospel and what Jesus has done for mankind. Mothers have a better opportunity many times then fathers.
As they grow, they will take that information, and will always remember what you said about the Lord. We are called to bring the gospel to mankind, including our family, after that it is up to God to do with His word what He purposes. His word never returns void, it always accomplishes the purpose for which God sent it.
---Mark_V. on 5/19/12


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example

and Paul says, "I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some." (in 1 Corinthians 9:19-22)
---willie_c: on 5/18/12


Cluny said it best. Only the Lord can save anyone, including our children.
---Trish on 5/18/12


Same way you save anyone else.

You don't.

Only JESUS saves.

Christ is risen!
---Cluny on 5/18/12


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