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Other than being big people, what are the characteristic of giants in the Bible?

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kathr4453, that's funny...ha ha ha. ~ what to do with Mary Mary Mary. That's a good one.
---Eloy on 6/26/12


Mary had a little lamb, its fleece was slightly grey,
It didn't have a father, just some borrowed DNA.

And soon it had a fellow clone, and soon it had some more,
They followed her to school one day, all cramming through the door.

It made the children laugh and sing, the teachers found it droll,
There were too many lamby clones, for Mary to control.

No other could control the sheep, since their programs didn't vary,
So the scientists resolved it all, by simply cloning Mary.

But now they feel quite sheepish, those scientists unwary,
One problem solved, but what to do, with Mary, Mary, Mary!
---kathr4453 on 6/26/12


As far as physical characteristics go (like height & excessive fingers, etc.) a giant can be a person who is neither very tall nor sumo wrestler wide. He/she can be a very powerful force (cunning & aggressive person) to be reckoned with, a person full of bluster & always posturing (raising up) for a fight. I believe giants can also be very Samson-like, physically strong people of average physical size. I've known a few. Haven't you?

There's a saying: "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog."
---Leon on 6/15/12


---Leon on 6/10/12 Youre welcome. And since every man is right in his(her) eyes, all are in need of Christ, (our) RIGHTeousness,

---aka on 6/10/12 thanks aha. Praise God
God bless
---chria9396 on 6/15/12


"Leon, When my question makes you uncomfortable (because you can't answer) I feel like a winner!
Continue to entertain those of less knowledge. Adios amigo!"
---1st_cliff on 6/14/12


Thanks Cliff for acting out the characteristics of giants in the Bible: Yes, they were manipulators, intimidators, dominators (carnal control freaks). They, like you, had delusions of grandeur & evidently thought more "highly" of themselves than they should've.

BIG mistake!

:)
---Leon on 6/15/12




Leon,When my question makes you uncomfortable (because you can't answer) I feel like a winner!
Continue to entertain those of less knowledge.
Adios amigo!
---1st_cliff on 6/14/12


"Leon, [it's] one thing to challenge others...another to accuse them of private interpretations, when you add to the word of God...it becomes your own private interpretation."
---Dan on 6/12/12


Dan: Private interpretation is when what one says doesn't square with (line up with) Scripture, e.g., angels mating with women. It's called e"i"segesis when people "read into" Scripture their opinions (what "i" ~ you & I think). On the other hand, e"x"egesis is "reading out of" Scripture, by the leading of God ~ the Holy Spirit, contextual guidance from Gen.-Rev. The "x" reminds me of the cross pointing to Jesus' loving sacrifice for us.
---Leon on 6/12/12


"Leon, Tell me up front that you don't intend to address my question (Peter's reference to spirits in prison in Noah's day) and I will disappear from this blog!"
---1st_cliff on 6/11/12


You're intentionally being a GIANT nuisance Cliff. Be gone!

Ah yes, that's another one of those characteristics of giants in the Bible, i.e., they also were nuisances (obnoxious, annoying people). :)
---Leon on 6/12/12


Leon, it is one thing to challenge others and it is another to accuse them of private interpretations, when you add to the word of God what is not found in the word of God, for it becomes your own private interpretation.
---Dan on 6/12/12


Leon, Tell me up front that you don't intend to address my question (Peter's reference to spirits in prison in Noah's day) and I will disappear from this blog!
---1st_cliff on 6/11/12




"Leon, can anyone say anything in discussion slightly varying in what you say without you attempting to trash them? Even if [you're] 100% right about everything [?], without love, [you're] nothing."
---aka on 6/10/12


Sorry you feel like that. That's not my intention. My overall purpose is to "reason", not argue with bloggers. Yes, sometimes my responses are abrasive, but "iron sharpens iron". (Pv. 27:17) I love you & other bloggers enough to challenge, what often seems to be, your "private interpretations" of Scripture. Jesus, the prophets & apostles also confronted people with tough love. They're the absolute best examples to follow.

Love, joy, peace... :)
---Leon on 6/11/12


leon, i am saying that i see it both ways. the scene begins with existing bullies that can be big too. "these" mighty men refer to Nephilum. how can the children be men of old????

anyway...

giants of the oil, entertainment, law... industries can squash us like bugs or should i say grasshoppers.

leon, can anyone say anything in discussion slightly varying in what you say without you attempting to trash them? even if you are 100% right about everything, without love, you are nothing.
---aka on 6/10/12


"...I...see no evidence..."feller" or "bully"...translates [giants]. I see it both ways...men of renown [fame]...giants (of industry, perhaps)...Num. 13:33 could... be literal, but I...lean to figurative."
---aka on 6/10/12


Aka: When you, "see it both ways", are you saying you see it but don't see it? G6:4 subject begins with existing giants. The scene logically unfolds by explaining the sons of God (righteous men) mated with the giant's daughters & those unequal unions produced strong men, infamously known to be wicked (G6:5) bullies in the land.

What industry would that be Aka, looting & pillaging? Regarding Num. 13:33, you'd rather decide than believe what is written?
---Leon on 6/10/12


good post, christine.

i still see no evidence that the word for "feller" or "bully" necessarily translates to men of big physical stature. i see it both ways. Gen 6:4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when the sons of God came in to the daughters of man and they bore children to them. These were the mighty men who were of old, the men of renown.

Men of renown...Giants (of industry, perhaps) do not necessarily mean that these men have a big, physical stature (e.g. Ross Perot).

we so love drama (a la Hollywood, which is full of industry giants with lineage that are not physically big.)

Num 13:33 could also be literal, but i still lean to figurative.
---aka on 6/10/12


"Other than being big people,
what are the characteristic of giants in the Bible?"
---Leon on 5/29/12

"Big egos? A giant image of 'self'?
Every man is right in his own eyes."
---chria9396 on 6/10/12


Yes, chria9396! Let me add "big headed", i.e., arrogant, conceited, egoistic, vain ~ having an exaggerated perception of one's qualities. Thanks for your spot on response that marks all the giants in the Bible. :)
---Leon on 6/10/12


"Other than being big people,
what are the characteristic of giants in the Bible?"
---Leon on 5/29/12

Big egos? A giant image of "self"?
Every man is right in his own eyes.
---chria9396 on 6/10/12


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4 There were giants in the earth in those days, and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Giants(Nephilim in the Hebrew), were not the same as mighty men of old renown. Why? because the bible takes care to separate the two.
Neither does it talk in the verse of 'wayward' daughters, nor of Cain. It simply says daughters of men.

It was not until these events had passed that Genesis talks about the corruptness of man.
Neither it seems were the giants the cause of God ending the world they were there before and after.
IMO
---chris on 6/8/12


That's a really GIANT confession Dave. There's hope for "blogbillies", like you,. ---Leon on 6/6/12

(Ecclesiastes 10:12)
Words from the mouth of the wise are gracious, but fools are consumed by their own lips.
---David on 6/8/12


Leon, "I' offered "you" peace, and it was not good enough for "you", so be it. but in peace "I" leave "you." be it as "you" suggest.
---MarkV. on 6/7/12


"Leon, I...Again I say that I...I do believe many can answer the questions you put out if they know they will not be critic[ized] or...called names. Everyone has something to give that can benefit someone else. Name calling is not necessary by anyone...We can answer courteously. I will try to do my best when I answer you. I hope for the same from everyone. We should be able to manage something so simple."
---Mark_V. on 6/6/12


Mark: To be condescending is characteristic of the BIG "I", little "you" syndrome that's hard at work on CN blogs & it's all vanity! The more things change, the more they stay the same. In other words, "there's nothing new under the sun." Ecc. 1:1-9
---Leon on 6/7/12


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Leon, I call you brother. Again I say that I love that you ask questions, and are very interested in the Bible. I do believe many can answer the questions you put out if they know they will not be critic or be called names. Everyone has something to give that can benefit someone else. Name calling is not necessary by anyone. Those are the things atheist laugh at. We can answer courteously. I will try to do my best when I answer you. I hope for the same from everyone. We should be able to manage something so simple.
---Mark_V. on 6/6/12


...This from the desk of an ignorant blogbillie..."
---David on 6/6/12


That's a really GIANT confession Dave. There's hope for "blogbillies", like you, who know they don't know (know they're ignorant). You've chosen wisely. :) But for the ones who don't know & don't know they don't know (people who constantly ignore the truth & rant foolishly), only God can help them. See Pv. 23:9.
---Leon on 6/6/12


Did you know Elephant and Giraffe fossils have been discovered? Proving they were here before the flood. And today there are still Elephants and Giraffes walking the Earth. Proving what it says in(Genesis 6:4)
"They were here before and after the flood."
But not all of these giants survived.
Have you seen what we call a Dinosaur walking around lately? If the elephant and the giraffe had not survived, would they also be called Dinosaurs?
This from the desk of an ignorant blogbillie.

Or you could go with a the mind numbing teachings of the wise men.
---David on 6/6/12


Leon does not respond to questions that he doesn't want to answer!
DNA=Does Not Answer!
---1st_cliff on 6/6/12


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MarkV,
About preaching to the "now dead".
Your blog was GREAT. The passage now certainly makes a lot more sense. Thanks!

1st Cliff, A bit off subject BUT, IN AGREEMENT with a recent blog, Have you noticed the use of the word FELLERS is used in Isaiah14:8. And the contextual use of the word FELLERS continues when Isaiah writes "how art thou FALLEN(chopped down) from heaven O Lucifer".
Many presume FALLEN FROM HEAVEN means 'angel thrown down out of heaven'. But context clearly shows that A FELLER(Lumberjack) would cut Nebuchadnezzar, A HUMAN, down by chopping his tree at the base, FROM EARTH. NOT THE INVISIBLE HEAVEN. It was the top of his TREE that would plummet from heaven(the visible sky) See Daniel ch4.
---Legends on 6/6/12


Mark V maybe when Leon says DNA he means
DNA = Does Not Apply....
It's gotta be, it's just gotta be...... he couldn't be serious.
---Elder on 6/5/12


"Leon. I didnt think it was that hard to understand."
---CraigA on 6/4/12


Craig: As simple as it is to understand, the blogbillies just don't get it. So be it! :)
---Leon on 6/5/12


Leon, what context in Scripture are you talking about? Where is the context? You said,

" In Bible context, that speaks to the DNA mix of the faithful sons of God & wayward daughters of men (Cain's children"

So you are saying that again, after the flood, the same way, the faithful sons of God and wayward daughters of men occured again? Where in all creation do you find that after the flood? What DNA or you talking about? Nothing of a kind is written in the context. Talk about speculation, you sure do a lot of it. Hey, you do have a right to speculate, and you do a lot of it. DNA what a great idea. DNA caused the giants after the flood. Great.
---Mark_V. on 6/5/12


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There were adulterers on earth before the flood also. Does that mean because the flood came there are no more adulterers? Nope
---Blogger9680 on 6/4/12


Ty Leon. I didnt think it was that hard to understand
---CraigA on 6/4/12


"Mark, how could you claim David is wrong..he...used scripture to prove...there were giants alive [living] AFTER the flood?"
---CraigA on 6/3/12

"Craig, if there [were] giants after the flood, they [weren't] the same giants before the flood. Everyone died other the Noah & family...we [aren't] told... Noah or his sons were giants. To say they were giants is to add to Scripture..."
---Mark_V. on 6/4/12


Mark: Craig isn't saying "living giants" survived the flood. He said the Bible records giants living after Noah & his family repopulated the earth. In Bible context, that speaks to the DNA mix of the faithful sons of God & wayward daughters of men (Cain's children).
---Leon on 6/4/12


Craig, if there was giants after the flood, they were not the same giants before the flood. Everyone died other the Noah and family. And we are not told that Noah or his sons were giants. To say they were giants is to add to Scripture. There is a warning for that in (Rev. 22:18: Deut. 4:2: 12:32: Prov. 30:6: Jer. 26:2).
---Mark_V. on 6/4/12


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Mark, how could you claim David is wrong when he just used scripture to prove that there were giants alive AFTER the flood?
---CraigA on 6/3/12


Leon,(old slippery) give us a little treatise on the "prison" Peter spoke about that the fallen angels were in while Noah was building the ark!
S'il vous plait!, Por favor! Bitte! Per piacre!
---1st_cliff on 6/3/12


Dave your point is very dull. ---Leon on 6/3/12

Funny how when a proud man is shown they are wrong, they don't thank the other person for the information, they just insult them.
Your insult told me you saw I was right, even though you are too proud to admit it.
---David on 6/3/12


"...We [aren't] told their father was Cain...v.6:1 [says] "...it came to pass, when men beg[a]n to multiply on...earth, & daughters were born to them," so much time had gone by. To assume...their father was Cain is to make up something not there..."
---Mark_V. on 6/3/12


Markie, Markie, Markie! :D When I said their father was Cain, I meant "forefather", many generations removed.
You are too uptight ~ lighten up! :)

Just so you'll know, I'm not always looking for, as you say, "answers". I realize many CN bloggers don't have scriptural sound answers though they think they do. I'm however very interested in how religious people like you claim to understand the Bible.
---Leon on 6/3/12


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"Leon my friend, let me get to the point.
You say when the word Giant is used in the Bible, the word is synonymous with Men of renoun.[?] And yet when we read Deut.3:11 (KJV)...King Og was a giant & ...describe[s] the...giant bed he slept in...Only [King] Og...remained of the...giants...his bedstead...of iron...9 cubits [approx. 13 ft.]...length... & 4 cubits [approx. 6 ft. wide]... Why would a [man] need a giant bed if he was not a giant man?" [:)]
---David on 6/3/12


Maybe he needed room for some really BIG dreams & his boy toys, e.g., Lionel trains, etc. Dave your point is very dull. Please rethink. Thx!
---Leon on 6/3/12


Leon, you said,
"Mark: *Just like their father Cain did Abel? :)"
We are not told their father was Cain since (v.6:1) tells us "Now it came to pass, when men begin to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them," so much time had gone by. To assume that their father was Cain is to make up something not there. I admire that you like to talk about Scripture and get into things not explain, and then ask questions, but when someone give you an answer, which is what you are asking for, you don't like their opinions and tell them they are wrong, when all they are doing is answering the questions you ask. lighten up.
---Mark_V. on 6/3/12


David, you said that the giants were here before and after the flood, that (Gen. 6:4) tells us so, but you are wrong. it does not say these same giants on the earth were also after the flood. It says, "There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, "when" the sons of God came to the daughters of men and they bore children who were of old, men of renown" Then he says after that, "Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth..." (v.7) the Lord said He would destroy man from the face of the earth. The rest of the opinions you gave are not revelent since they were gone before the flood.
---Mark_V. on 6/3/12


Mark V: Lumberjacks will "fell" a tree,cause it to fall.
Same old word that the Nephelim were "fellers" causing others to fall!
BTW no one has ventured to answer the question -What "prison" did Peter mention in connection with these same "sinful angels"?
---1st_cliff on 6/3/12


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"Renown" simply means they were well known, i.e., everyone knew them as men of good reputation :]---Leon on 6/2/12

Leon my friend, let me get to the point.
You say when the word Giant is used in the Bible, the word is synonymous with Men of renoun. And yet when we read (Deuteronomy 3:11)KJV
It tells us King Og was a giant, and then goes on to describe the Giant bed he slept in.
For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants, behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron, is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.

Why would a need a Giant bed if he was not a Giant man?
---David on 6/3/12


It is something which has fallen, like an abortion, and untimely or premature birth which "falls" from the womb
---Mark_V. on 6/2/12

Mark
(Genesis 7:21) tells us God killed every living creature except Noah, and the animals Noah put on the Ark. (Genesis 6:4) tells us that these Giants were here before and after the flood.
Do you know why (Genesis 6:4) needs to let the reader know that?

It's so the reader will know, that for these Giants to have been here after the flood,they would have had to be put on the ark by Noah.
This leaves us with only two logical conclusions.
Noah was a Giant, or some of the Animals placed on the Ark were Giants.
Like the Elephant, Giraffe, and the Rhino.
---David on 6/3/12


"...Num.13:33...when giants were mentioned, it was a fabrication of what they saw...Gen. 6:4..."giant" means "Nephel"...something which has fallen...Nephilim...meaning "to fall"...these men were strong men who fell on others [*]...overpowering them..."
---Mark_V. on 6/2/12


Mark: *Just like their father Cain did Abel? :)

Fabrication? That's a new word, huh? :) They didn't fabricate the whole story, just the exaggeration (LIE) about the giants being soooo BIG they looked like insects next to them. The only giant I ever read of that BIG lived up a beanstalk & we know what happened to that fella (or is that feller?). :D
---Leon on 6/2/12


David, your right that in (Numbers 13:33) when giants were mentioned, it was a fabrication of what they saw. To scare the people. But (Gen. 6:4) the word "giant" means "Nephel" This masc. noun originates from "Naphal" It is something which has fallen, like an abortion, and untimely or premature birth which "falls" from the womb (Job 1:16: Ps. 58:8: Eccl. 6:3). It has this sense in the Jewish Talmud. The Nephilim is from a root meaning "to fall". Indicating these men were strong men who fell on others in the sense of overpowering them. They were already in the earth when the mighty men and men of renown were born. The fallen one's are not the offspring from the union on (v.6:1,2).
---Mark_V. on 6/2/12


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"Some obviously have trouble reading what's written!..1 Pet.4.20"
---1st_cliff on 6/2/12


Obviously, "some" characteristically do Cliff. It's no BIG surprise! By the way, that's actually 2 Pt. 2:4.
---Leon on 6/2/12


"(Numbers 16:2)KJV '...they rose up [stood] before Moses, with...250 princes...men of renown.'
Leon, [d]o you believe the men of renown in this verse were [g]iants too?"
---David on 6/2/12


No David! :D "Renown" simply means they were well known, i.e., everyone knew them as men of good reputation, unlike the G6:4 infamously "renown" outlaw band of despotic "BIG bully" strongmen who wreaked havoc in their day. :]

Consider: God cursed Cain with an inability to farm. Let's "suppose" his kids inherited the curse. So, to get grain & vegetable produce, they had to barter (trade) or else secretly steal, or perhaps violently loot & pillage from "every one".
---Leon on 6/2/12


Some obviously have trouble reading what's written!
"
Sons of God married daughters of MEN and HAD CHILDREN BY THEM"
What's unususal about this statement?
It's natural that men and women produce children,but this is not written that way!
If they were humans they would be sons of MEN. (but they were Sons of God) Same term in Job to describe Angels! Same angels Peter spoke about as being "disobedient" and landing in Tartarus (prison)while God patiently waited for Noah to build the ark!IPet.4.20
---1st_cliff on 6/2/12


...I don't believe God intended to establish a timeline for us by eluding...
---Leon on 6/2/12

"Eluding" should've read "alluding".

"Someone asked if giants came from the mating of humans and angels then where did dwarfs and midgets come from? I am waiting for the answer from those who believe that g[i]ants came from human[s] and angel[s] mating[.]"
---francis on 6/2/12


Actually dwarf & midget people are short in stature due to a genetic disorder. The term midget is considered an insult to some people. There's a very long list of genetic disorders we humans are saddled with. The root cause of our disorders is in Adam's original "sin".
---Leon on 6/2/12


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Big (GIANT, prominent, renown men) bullies shows sin was rampant (a BIG problem) in those days. That's why!
---Leon on 6/2/12

(Numbers 16:2)KJV
And they rose up before Moses, with certain of the children of Israel, two hundred and fifty princes of the assembly, famous in the congregation, men of renown.


Leon
Do you believe the men of renown in this verse were Giants too?

---David on 6/2/12


Someone asked " if giants came from the mating of humans and angels then where did dwarfs and midgets come from?"

I am waiting for the answer from those who believe that gants came from human and angel mating
---francis on 6/2/12


"...I was only sharing what the Holy Spirit taught me about the Giants written in (Genesis 6:4).
I don't expect you to believe me just because I say the Holy Spirit taught it to me, for there are many who make that claim..."
---David on 6/2/12


The Holy Spirit only teaches from what is actually contextually written in Scripture. Anything outside of what Scripture says isn't taught by the Holy Spirit. Yes, many do who make false claims in the name of the Holy Spirit.

I don't believe God intended to establish a timeline for us by eluding to dinosaurs. Beyond G6:4, throughout the Bible, "giants" are contextually & consistently identified as men, not huge animals.
---Leon on 6/2/12


"...Why would God tell us there were bullies on the earth during those days?..."
---David on 6/2/12


Scripture shows a perfect sinless creation before Adam sinned. Then, God made a plan of redemption for man & to restore His creation to a state of sinless perfection. Note: Sin is primarily about us (mankind) though it greatly affects the whole of "earthly creation".

In Bible context, it's all about Adam's original sin, thru Cain who "rose up" & murdered Abel. Afterwards, Cain's family tree produced nothing but violent "bullies" who tyrannized earth's inhabitants. Big (GIANT, prominent, renown men) bullies shows sin was rampant (a BIG problem) in those days. That's why!
---Leon on 6/2/12


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Leon
I was only sharing what the Holy Spirit taught me about the Giants written in (Genesis 6:4).
I don't expect you to believe me just because I say the Holy Spirit taught it to me, for there are many who make that claim.

As for your definition, there are many meaning to the word, and "bullies" is the one you have chosen.
I am curious though, about your understanding of (Genesis 6:4).
Why would God tell us there were bullies on the earth during those days?

If they were dinosaurs, as I said, we know the dinosaurs walked the earth during the days of Noah. And God has given us a fossil record to prove what is written in (Genesis 6:4).
---David on 6/2/12


Mark V, Your theory is flawed because peter said the spirits were in prison.(Taterus= a place of dense darkness)
How do you account for this statement?
---1st_cliff on 6/2/12


LOL Not unless women were giving birth to dinosaurs
---Blogger9680 on 6/1/12

Blogger
You need to read the verse again. It says, There were Giants on the earth in those days when the Sons of God laid with the daughters of men. If they were here before the sons of God laid with the daughters of men, could they been the offspring of this union?

As far as (Numbers 13:33), have you read (Numbers 14:36-37)? It tells us there these so called "Giants" were a fabrication, and the men who told this lie were put to death.
There are many who use these "Giant" sons of Anak to found their argument. Is it wise to base an argument on an easily proven lie?
LOL
---David on 6/2/12


The Giants mentioned in (Genesis 6:4) are not men, they are Dinosaurs.--David

LOL Not unless women were giving birth to dinosaurs

The same Hebrew word is used to describe the giant MEN who were the sons of Anak that inhabited the land of Canaan (Numbers 13:33)
---Blogger9680 on 6/1/12


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David: The G6:4, Hebrew root word for giants is "nefeel". That translates to bully(ies) or tyrant(s). Is that talking about some kind of non-human, ferocious creatures ~ perhaps Tyrannosaurus Rex? NO! It speaks of evil "big bully" (giant) men that intimidated, dominated & violently ruled mankind, much to God's displeasure.

Let's stay on track with the Bible (Genesis-Revelation) which is all about sinful mankind being redeemed, after Adam's "fall", back into a right relationship with Almighty God. It's not about dinosaurs or, as some suppose, an ungodly gang of alien angels.
---Leon on 6/1/12


The Giants mentioned in (Genesis 6:4) are not men, they are Dinosaurs.
The reason they are mentioned in the verse, is to give the reader a time frame as to when God the flooded the earth. There was no dating system back in those days, so Moses simply used the Dinosaur as a reference of time, as we do when we give a date.

Moses was telling us that God flooded the Earth when the Dinosaurs walked the Earth.
Those which were put on the ark and roamed the earth after the flood are the Elephant, Giraffe, Rhino, ect..
---David on 6/1/12


Legends, I believe you are wrong in your interpretation of (1 Peter 4:4-6). The preaching of the Gospel not only offers a rich life (3:10), a ceasing from sin (v.1), and a good conscience (v.3:21), but also an escape from final judgment. Peter had in mind believers who had heard and accepted the Gospel of Christ when they were still alive, but who had died by the time Peter wrote this letter. Some of them perhaps had been martyred for their faith. Though these were dead physically they were triumphantly alive in their spirits ( Heb. 12:23). All their judgment had been fully accomplished while they were alive in this world (in the flesh) so they will live forever in God's presence.
---Mark_V. on 6/1/12


I marvel that God chose a handsome, GIANT OF A MAN, to rule over "unruly" (rebellious) Israel after they vocally expressed their desire to have a king just like the other nations had. (1 Sam. 8 & 9) As the saying goes, "Be careful of what you ask for because you just might get it!" Indeed, that was the case here.

King Saul later proved to be a devious, untrustworthy, self-absorbed liar & coward. Israel's numero uno "BIG GUY" was afraid to stand & do battle with Goliath. Obviously, Goliath really wanted to fight & kill King Saul. But, instead cowardly Saul sent David (a boy) to do what he (a man) should've! Yet, thru David, the battle was won by the Lord ~ the true King of Israel.
---Leon on 5/31/12


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Legends,Tell me I'm wrong then come up with this "theory" that Peter was referring to the "sinners" in Noah's day???
He preached to the sinners by building the Ark???(pretty weak argument)
What"prison" were they in?
Scripture says Tartaus (2Pet.2.4 translated hell from the Greek tartarus)is the "prison" for fallen angels and eventually satan!
Moses is reputed to have written both Job and Genesis.
At Job 1.6 & 2.1 he refers to angels as being "sons of God" Now what proof do you have that he was referring to something else?
---1st_cliff on 5/31/12


Aaaaah guys! What are the characteristics of giants in the Bible, if you don't mind. Thx!
---Leon on 5/31/12


"THEY are surprised that you do not join THEM in THEIR reckless, wild living/But THEY will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and THE DEAD. For this is the reason the gospel was preached even to THOSE who are NOW DEAD, so that they might be judged according to HUMAN standards in regard to the body, but live according to God in regard to the spirit."
1Peter4:4-6 teaches the DEAD spirits were like the dead IN SIN spirits in Noah's day. They were'nt angels! Don't stop at chap3:20! Uninhibited HUMANS in Noah's day sinned continually until flood BURIED THEM. BTW, Noah preached to these spirits THROUGH HIS ACTIONS, building the ARK.
CONTEXT about PREACHING through actions without words/1Pet3:1.
---Legends on 5/30/12


Leon, Then perhaps you can enlighten us all with the explanation of just who the "spirits in prison" were who were disobedient "in the days of Noah" that Jesus preached to mentioned by Peter 1PET.3.20
PS Don't be so condescending,huh! !
---1st_cliff on 5/30/12


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"what are the characteristic of giants in the Bible? "six fingers on each hand and six toes on each foot, twenty-four in number," 2Sa 21:20>1Ch 20:6
---joseph on 5/30/12


"...There is nothing positive that can be said about this question because there are no answers in the Bible about the 'characteristics of giants.'..."
---KarenD on 5/30/12


Karen: They were bullies, they were blasphemers, they were idolators (pagans), etc. These three things speak loudly, in the Bible, to their "character".

Thanks Legends for being on track here. Yes, "gaints", i.e., a little moderater humor. :)
---Leon on 5/30/12


The giant(gaint?) named Goliath seemed to be a boastful, big-mouthed bully. He used his high position to cause fear and intimidation.
---Legends on 5/30/12


Leon...Wow! There is nothing positive that can be said about this question because there are no answers in the Bible about the "characteristics of giants." I thought you and I agreed on the same answer here.
---KarenD on 5/30/12


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I'm not going to play games with you Cliff. Karen, hopefully you'll have something positive & valuable to contribute to the discussion. If not...
---Leon on 5/30/12


Well, the Hebrew word for "giant", in Genesis 6:4, can mean a "tyrant". And it says they were "mighty" and "of renown", which can be what a tyrant seeks to be over others. An angel of Satan could produce a child who is a tyrant, not just big in body, I can see. But it says, for us, "nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3) Jesus so truly great is "gentle and lowly in heart" (in Matthew 11:29). So, they were inferior by trying to put themselves over others, instead of wanting to be humble in love so we can have "unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace." (in Ephesians 4:3)
---willie_c: on 5/30/12


Leon:What's wrong with my analogy?
Chap.6 says "When the sons of "God" (same term used in Job to describe angels) saw the daughters of "MEN"(not daughters of God)were beautiful.."
vs 4 "they had children BY them" (this statement would not be made if they were human) said because it was not normal! "they were men of renown" Half angel half man, giants,
The main reason for the flood!
---1st_cliff on 5/29/12


Sometimes I think some of the people who post on these blogs have never read the Bible. There are no descriptions of giants in the Bible. 1st Cliffs explanation is pure myth and stories - nothing Biblical about his statement.
---KarenD on 5/29/12


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"...The giants (Nephilim) were a hybrid product of fallen angels & human women.
Referred to as "fellers" (those who cause people to fall)or "bullies".
When God brought the flood, their bodies (materialized for marriage) drowned but they had forsaken their heavenly abode, so God holds them in Tartarus (hell) where Jesus preached to them, mentioned by Peter! At least that's my understanding!"
---1st_cliff on 5/29/12


Hey ol' Bud, I totally disagree with your angels-humans analogy. :) I find it's incredible you'd believe a fable & scoff at the Trinity of God. But, that has nothing to do with this blog.

This blog asks: WHAT ARE THE CHARACTERISTICS OF GIANTS IN THE BIBLE?
---Leon on 5/29/12


Hey Leon, nobody's perfect,not even the Moderator!
The giants (Nephilim) were a hybrid product of fallen angels and human women.
Referred to as "fellers" (those who cause people to fall)or "bullies".
When God brought the flood,their bodies (materialized for marriage) drowned but they had forsaken their heavenly abode,so God holds them in Tartarus (hell) where Jesus preached to them ,mentioned by Peter!
At least that's my understanding!
---1st_cliff on 5/29/12


G"aints"?! Come on moderater! :D
---Leon on 5/29/12


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