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What Does Communion Mean

The subject of communion has come up on a recent blog. Some believe that the bread and cup are transformed into the body and blood of Christ. Others are taught that the communion is simply a commemoration of what the Lord said to do at the Lord's Supper. What does your church practice?

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1Cliff, no, I have not been to one but have seen some on TV. I have seen a lot of people go forward. And I'm sure many of those were never converted and later walk away. I have seen some at the Pentacostal Church I attended go forward ten times. It seems like the first time nothing works, then the second and so on. True conversion comes from God. When God saves someone, that person will overcome, abide, and presevere because God will make him stand. When God puts a new heart in the person, and put His Spirit within them, those people become His children and no one or no thing can separate them away from the love of God.
---Mark_V. on 6/7/12


Mark V, Have you never seen or been to a Billy Graham crusade ? Seeing the hundreds "converted" (or the beginning thereof) Consciences touched by the message!
These persons (some of them)are on the path to salvation.
Not converted by God but by their own mental judgement!
it's called "persuasion" appealing to psyche of each individual!
Not shoving it down some one's throat or threat of burning in a (symbolic) fire!
Two choices ,
#1 Live forever.
#2 Die forever!
Personally my choice is #1
---1st_cliff on 6/6/12


1Cliff, you said:
"Mark V, God does not "convert" anyone (else He would have converted the world)"
Why would He have to convert the whole world? What obligation is He under?
Then you said,
"Conversion takes place when one realizes their mortality is in jeopardy if they do not take the necessary steps to insure sustained life."
Cliff, you are speaking of repentance by attrition. Which really converts no one. It involves remorse caused by a fear of Punishment. Children repent like that. They don't want to get spank.
Repentance by "Contrition". is true godly repentance. It includes a deep remorse for having offended God.
---Mark_V. on 6/5/12


CraigA, Do not add too, nor take away from, my words. I follow Christ whom is my Papa, I do not follow Paul whom also follows Christ. Dissemblers are always trying to draw schisms within the body, trying to diss Paul as though his gospel was someohow different than Christ's gospel, when in truth they are one and the same one gospel. We have Christ Our Most High Head, and then each Christian follows him, as each Sheep follows the Shepherd. I am Christianed and Paul is Christianed, both brothers in the Lord Jesus Christ.
---Eloy on 6/4/12


How could they be eating Him?
---Mark_V. on 6/3/12

Mark,

They ask the same question:

" How can this man give us his flesh?( Jhn 6"52)

Notice what Jesus says after that, read it and let me know how many times does he say you must eat his flesh. And Mark you will let you walk away (JHN 6:66)
---Ruben on 6/4/12




Mark V, God does not "convert" anyone (else He would have converted the world)
Conversion takes place when one realizes their mortality is in jeopardy if they do not take the necessary steps to insure sustained life.IE Belief in the ransom sacrifice of Jesus and obedience to Him and His/our Father!
No one saw Christ or understood the conversation on the road to Damascas!
Back in the day, no one had difficulty "hearing" God speak His voice was like thunder!

"I AM" does not sound like "I use to be" like one would say "I use to be Catholic"
---1st_cliff on 6/4/12


1st Cliff, I must correct you: for I am a Christian from Christ, and not a Paulite from Paul.
---Eloy on 6/3/12

So does that mean you dont think Paul was a Christian from Christ?
---CraigA on 6/4/12


1Cliff, I still do not understand your stance. Don't you believe that God can convert you? Bring you to spiritual life? or as stated before, regenerate you? That is what you are suggesting. Jesus Himself converted Paul. Yet you don't believe there was a conversion by the Lord Himself. You still group him with the other Pharisees who were not converted or born again of the Spirit. If you cannot believe the word of God, what do you believe in? you say, "No way Jose'
Act.23.6 Paul's statement "I AM a Pharisee son of a Pharisee"

Do you not understand God converted his heart, he was still a son of a pharisee, that could not change.
---Mark_V. on 6/4/12


1st Cliff, I must correct you: for I am a Christian from Christ, and not a Paulite from Paul.
---Eloy on 6/3/12


Eloy, Spoken like a true Paulite!
---1st_cliff on 6/3/12




Mark V, I think you missed my point. That's okay. God be with you.
---Catholicus on 6/3/12


Catholicus, your question gives evidence of what you believe concerning Christ. you said,

" there is no evidence that any of the churches before Constantine did not believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist."

Do you not understand that the presence of Christ is where ever you go and whatever you do as a genuine believer? When you walk into a building as a believer in Christ, you carry Christ with you. His Spirit is within you. Then you want to eat His flesh which is impossible because in His humanity He was just like you and I. When He spoke at the last supper, He was still present in the flesh. How could they be eating Him? You don't understand because you don't believe in been born of the Spirit.
---Mark_V. on 6/3/12


Our church follows what Jesus Commands: "This do in REMEMBRANCE of me." > Lk.22:19,20+ I Cor.11:24-34.
---Eloy on 6/3/12


Cliff. since the universal Church east and west accepts Paul's letters as canonical, I will stick with the church. So I suppose you and I have little basis left for discussion. You are of course welcome to your beliefs. Peace to you.
---Catholicus on 6/2/12


Catholicus, The command to "keep doing this" came from Paul and Luke (no proof that Jesus made this command!
So naturally all Pro arguments come from Paul's letters.
Since Paul wrote virtually 1/2 the New Testament,and Christendom believes that he was "inspired," it's a "done deal"
Personally I'm not that gullible!

OK why do I take this stand?
Jesus denounced the Pharisees as sons of the devil,yet the chief one of these leads the Christian congregation?? No way Jose'
Act.23.6 Paul's statement "I AM a Pharisee son of a Pharisee"
---1st_cliff on 6/2/12


Mark V, there is no evidence that any of the churches before Constantine did not believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist. The idea that Christ was not truly present in the sacred Elements appeared only after the Reformation began. Peace to you.
---Catholicus on 6/2/12


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Trey, are you saying then that you think the flesh of Jesus profits nothing? Is that what you think Jesus is saying in that passage? Peace to you.
---Catholicus on 6/2/12


Joh6:56 He that eateth my flesh,

The question becomes, "Was Christ speaking in a literal sense or in a spiritual sense?"

Joh6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

How do you interpret what Christ is saying?
---trey on 6/2/12

Both:

"the bread which I shall give for the life of the world is my flesh."v 51


"For my flesh is food indeed, and my blood is drink indeed." V 55

And to have supernatural faith:

"Do you take offense at this? Then what if you were to see the Son of man ascending where he was before? " V 61,62
---Ruben on 6/2/12


Ruben, you are very wrong when you said,

So why would your Church practice something that came around in the 15th century?"

I don't know where you get your infomation because you are so wrong, since the doctrine of "Transubstantiation" was introduced by the Church at a Western Coucil called by Pope Innocent lll, in A.D. 1215. Just another doctrine added by the church. And another doctrine among many that had much to do with stirring up the leaders of the Reformation a few centuries later.
---Mark_V. on 6/1/12

Mark,

The doctrine of the trinity was introduce in 325ad, does that mean no one believe in the trinity prior to that ? Because that is what you are saying.
---Ruben on 6/2/12


Cliff. I don't understand. Where is the irony?
---Catholicus on 6/2/12


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Isn't it ironic that all the arguments thus far are based on Paul's letters!
But then again ,who do Christendom follow as God's "chief" spokesman?!
---1st_cliff on 6/2/12


Catholicus, I answered Ruben when the doctrine "Transubtantiation" was introduced to the RCC.

By reading history, you would know, in the first three centuries, congregations all over the East subsisted as separate independent bodies, unsupported by goverment and never one having power over another. Changes within the Churches went away form Christ when the Roman Empire through Constantine proposed a marriage with Christianity. This union was called in A.D. 313. "An Hierarchy was formed." In the organization of the Hierarchy, Christ was dethroned as head of the Churches. And Emperor Constantine enthroned only temporarily, however as head of the Church. What is now known as "Universal" Catholic.
---Mark_V. on 6/2/12


Catholicus, Christ stated:
Joh6:56 He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.

The question becomes, "Was Christ speaking in a literal sense or in a spiritual sense?"

Joh6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth, the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

How do you interpret what Christ is saying?
---trey on 6/2/12


Mark V, I need to tell you that the Eastern Orthodox churches have believed from the earliest years of the Church that the bread and wine of the Eucharist become the very Body and Blood of Christ. And they rejected the Roman Catholic term Transubstantiation when it appeared in 1215. But both the eastern and western branches of the Church believed in the real presence in the Eucharist from the beginning. You can easily verify this. God bless you.
---Catholicus on 6/1/12


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Cluny: 1 Corinthians 10:17 "Because there is one loaf, we, who are many, are one body, for we all partake of the one loaf."

IF the bread were transformed into the body of Christ, this verse would say 'body' not 'loaf.' This verse follows 1 Corinthians 10:16.

16 "Is not the cup of thanksgiving for which we give thanks a participation in the blood of Christ? And is not the bread that we break a participation in the body of Christ?"

IF the bread were transformed into the body of Christ, Paul would not have used the word 'loaf' AFTER mentioning the body of Christ.
---Trish on 6/1/12


\\Cluny. I suggest reading 1Cor 10 again as you misunderstood it.\\

No, I don't. You misunderstand it.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/1/12


Cluny. I suggest reading 1Cor 10 again as you misunderstood it.

I was referring to the "SPIRITUAL" meat and drink which Israel partook of just like us today. This was in relation to describing communion.

But, the examples you read about in 1Cor 10 is not referring to "water baptism and Communion" as you thought.
Instead it refers to the UNBELIEF that led many to fall in the wilderness.

Also see Heb 3 and 4 where it also speaks of the same falling in the wilderness due to unbelief.
Heb 4:11 "Let us labor therefore to enter into that rest, lest any man fall after the same EXAMPLE OF UNBELIEF.
---Haz27 on 6/1/12


"1Cor 10:3,4
"And did all eat the same SPIRITUAL meat,
And did all drink the same SPIRITUAL drink: for they drank of that SPIRITUAL Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."
When we study God's word we are in communion.
AMEN! Well said Haz
And now it is for HIs called and chosen to follow Him in order to partake of that same Spiritual food and drink. The consuming of His Word, and the imbibing of the Inspiration and Enlightenment that we are privileged to received thereby, as graciously granted to us through His atoning sacrifice for us.
---Josef on 6/1/12


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Ruben, you are very wrong when you said,

"Those who believe that he bread and wine transformed into his body and blood were taught from the 1st century until the 15th century. So why would your Church practice something that came around in the 15th century?"

I don't know where you get your infomation because you are so wrong, since the doctrine of "Transubstantiation" was introduced by the Church at a Western Coucil called by Pope Innocent lll, in A.D. 1215. Just another doctrine added by the church. And another doctrine among many that had much to do with stirring up the leaders of the Reformation a few centuries later.
---Mark_V. on 6/1/12


No problem,thankyou for asking.The small congregation i attend is nondenominational & we have communion or memorial service ,on the evening before the jewish passover after sunset simular like Jehovah's Witnesses do,but unlike them we actually take part of our memorial service.We remember our messiah and count the costs.
---womandisciple on 6/1/12


\\1Cor 10:3,4
"And did all eat the same SPIRITUAL meat,
And did all drink the same SPIRITUAL drink: for they drank of that SPIRITUAL Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."\\

You stopped short at the next verse:

"NOW THESE THINGS ARE FOR OUR EXAMPLES."

In other words, they are figures of water baptism and Communion, both of which Orthodox and Eastern Christians generally administer to infants.

Why did you stop before the next verse?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/31/12


1Cor 10:3,4
"And did all eat the same SPIRITUAL meat,
And did all drink the same SPIRITUAL drink: for they drank of that SPIRITUAL Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ."

When we study God's word we are in communion.

---Haz27 on 5/31/12


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Cliff: How long did it take Satan to tempt Jesus in the wilderness? It was after His 40 days of fasting and prayer.

All of us are tempted by Satan throughout our lives. And many of us become deceived by Him. That is why we dig into the Word, to know the Truth, and keep our minds focused on our Lord.
---Trish on 5/31/12


ours is the commemoration we do annually in rememberance of him.
---womandisciple on 5/31/12
anually when, what date.

no criticism here just curisity
---francis on 5/31/12


Cluny, You're comparing apples and oranges here!
"DO this" is a direct command!
"God so loved the world" is a statement,Matthew,John, Peter,
James & Jude all walked with Jesus for some 3 1/2 years and knew everything Jesus said 1st hand!
OTOH Paul and Luke never met Him!
Why do you think Jesus said that slick soothsayers would appear as an "angel of light"?
Two questions,
#1 How long did it take satan to get to Adam and eve?
#2 How long did it take satan to get to the Christian congregation after Christ's ascension?
---1st_cliff on 5/31/12


\\Do you imagine for a moment that Matthew,John,Peter, Jude did not think it worth mentioning??? (they were there) Luke and Paul were not!\\

And Matthew, Jude, and Peter did not think it worth quoting "For God so loved the word, either." Why? They obviously weren't there for the interview with Nicodemos.

All John had was Nicodemos's word for it. How did he (and we) not know Nicodemos's was just making it all up?


Isn't this suspicious?

\If you don't think this is cause for suspicion then it's obvious that satan can "slip one over on you"\\

Why do you think that satan could slip something over on Ss. Paul and Luke?

That's what you're assuming here.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/31/12


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ours is the commemoration we do annually in rememberance of him.
---womandisciple on 5/31/12


communions means that we are part / partakers of the body fo christ.

a remembrance of the body of Jesus which was killed for our sin

a reminder of the blood of Jesus that was shed so that we could be forgiven of our sins
---francis on 5/30/12


Cliff, it would seem quite strange if the Eucharist, as a universal practice of the church from earliest times, were based on a fiction. And keep in mind that arguments from silence are faulty. Because someone doesn't mention something somewhere does not show that he is ignorant of it or disapproves of it. God bless you.
---Catholicus on 5/30/12


Cluny, **came from the pen of John "too"** ?
John did not mention "keep doing this" nor any of the last supper attendees!
Do you imagine for a moment that Matthew,John,Peter, Jude did not think it worth mentioning??? (they were there) Luke and Paul were not!
If you don't think this is cause for suspicion then it's obvious that satan can "slip one over on you"
Every denomination in Christendom celebrate some form of "communion" based on this , after all "keep doing this" is a "commandment" ah,but WHO'S commandment?
No way would Jesus' true apostles ignore Christ's commandment!
---1st_cliff on 5/30/12


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\\Trish, The Lord did not say "to do" at the last supper.This came from the pen of Luke and Paul!
Look it up!\\

And I suppose that Jesus didn't really say, "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son....." either, but this merely came from the pen of John, too.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 5/30/12


I think it means we could terminate the killing(/eating/hating/desiring etc. ) among/between human beings.And we could eat the God that could not die. if we eat someone that could not die, we will not feel guilty. so i think that might be the meaning of "forgiving".
---dsda on 5/30/12


Those who believe that he bread and wine transformed into his body and blood were taught from the 1st century until the 15th century. So why would your Church practice something that came around in the 15th century?
---Ruben on 5/30/12


The memory of Christ's personal sacrifice for us.
---Eloy on 5/30/12


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Hi, Trish (c: Our pastor says the bread and drink are symbols. And on a communion Sunday we have things like thanksgiving testimonies which people can share, saying prayer requests that we pray about, right then, time for confessing our sins to ourselves, and sharing of scriptures with each other.
---willie_c: on 5/30/12


Trish, The Lord did not say "to do" at the last supper.This came from the pen of Luke and Paul!
Look it up!
---1st_cliff on 5/29/12


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