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Can A Child Reject False Teachers

If a child has parents who join an orginization which spreads FALSE TEACHING" is it wrong for the child to reject the teaching?

How about the organization telling the child their rejecting the teaching/not joining the orginization, they are rebelling against and dishounoring their parents?

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 ---Rob on 6/11/12
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One of the problems is that children have been trained to obey people in authority and will in general believe what they are told. Pedophile Priest in the Roman Catholic Church are classic examples of the problem. Children need to be trained to think as individuals and disregard herd mentality and regrettably this is not what is being taught in public education in the USA. And home schooling is never ever the answer either. About the only way improve the situation is to get involved in public education and run for office on local school boards where you will be in a position bust up teachers unions, fire incompetent teachers and administrators and get rid of bad curriculums and text books.
---Blogger9211 on 8/15/12


---Mark_V. on 6/14/12

OK now I understand what you are trying to say
---francis on 6/14/12


francis, where did you come out with that? Everyone rebells against God. We all fall short of the glory of God. But not everyone is condemned.

"He who believes in Him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God"

So if the child is not saved, he is condemned already whether he listen to his parents or not. If he is not saved, his good works towards his parents are only good deeds. Good deeds get no one into the kingdom of God. He is still under the law in rebellion against God. Until he is forgiven, he will always at every moment be in rebelliong against God, already condemned.
---Mark_V. on 6/14/12


That would only make them good kids obeying their parents, it would not change the fact they are in rebellion against God. Until they too are born of God, they remain in rebellion against God. Maybe not against their parents.
---Mark_V. on 6/14/12
If i understand you correctly, only those who are born of God can rebell against God
---francis on 6/14/12


francis, you say,

---Mark_V. on 6/13/12
Those two biblical examples I sited, were they commanded by God? If they were commanded by God, and his parents asked that he obey the commands of God and he rebelled against his parents, is he not also not obeying his parents in the lord?"


That would only make them good kids obeying their parents, it would not change the fact they are in rebellion against God. Until they too are born of God, they remain in rebellion against God. Maybe not against their parents.
---Mark_V. on 6/14/12




I have learned the best way to teach the Gospel of Christ Jesus is book by book chapter by chapter, and verse by verse, in the TRUE CONTEXT WHICH IT WAS WRITTEN.
---Rob on 5/27/12

BIBLE:
Isaiah 28:9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine?

Isaiah 28:10 For precept [must be] upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, [and] there a little:

This means that is you wanted to study the doctrine of the sabbath, you would NOT go book chapter verse, but go to every place ( here a little there a little) where the precpts of the sabath is taught

NOT book by book chapter by chapter, and verse by verse, in the TRUE CONTEXT WHICH IT WAS WRITTEN
---francis on 6/13/12


---Rob on 6/13/12
Isaiah 28:10 For precept [must be] upon precept, precept upon precept, line upon line, line upon line, here a little, [and] there a little:

This does NOT say by book chapter and verse. It says by PRECEPTS, line upon line here a little there a little
the VERY opposite of book, chapter and verse. Add surely NOT CONTEXT but DOCTRINE

Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.


LOL Why do you think so many people have SUNday as thier day of congregational worship?
They left the sabbath which pointed to God as creator who created in six days and rested the 7th, and started worshiping the SUN
---francis on 6/13/12


\\for the child should instead call the police on the sinful parent rather than obey them just because they are an authority figure-\\

Therefore, since youm are sinful, Eloy, we should call the police on youm.

Of course, youm are not an authority figure, except in yourm own mind.

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/13/12


Francis, the FALSE TEACHING of the SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CULT, has already been exposed many times by myself and others.

Concerning studying scripture by book, chapter, and verse, why don't you try reading Isaiah 28:10-13, and 2 Timothy 2:14-19.

I am curious and waiting how you are going to take these passages of scripture and do what is written in Romans 1:25.
---Rob on 6/13/12


Francis, you are 100% correct in saying I am full of it.

I am full of many years of studying scripture by book, chapter, and verse in the true context which it is written. In fact I have over 40 years of studying scripture. But you say it is nonsense and garbage for a person to do this.

If you took time to study scripture, you might be full of it also.

I do know why my mother left the former church and became SDA. The former church was correct concerning the issue, and the SDA was wrong.

I do check what places teach by studying scripture, and I do know the SEVENTH DAY ADVENTIST CULT, is not a place I want to be, and is not a place anyone who studies scripture should want to be.
---Rob on 6/13/12




---Mark_V. on 6/13/12
Those two biblical examples I sited, were they commanded by God?

If they were commanded by God, and his parents asked that he obey the commands of God and he rebelled against his parents, is he not also not obeying his parents in the lord?
---francis on 6/13/12


Rob on 6/12/12

Here is the REALLY BIG question

What false teaching do you think that your parent got from the SDA church

Please show that teaching and the bible scripture that corrects it

ALSO

Show me from SCRIPTURE where God says we are to study scripture by book, chapter, and verse, in the true context which it is written.

---francis on 6/13/12


francis, you were wrong about your believes concerning the two examples and then saying,
"By rejecting those biblical teachings you rebelled against God and did not obey your parents in the Lord"

Everyone born of Adam is in rebellion against God. Whether you are born to parents that believe or those that don't. It is not until God makes someone spiritually alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins, that a person is freed from the hold of the prince of the power of the air, the spirit who works in the sons of disobedience.
---Mark_V. on 6/13/12


---Rob on 6/12/12

You are full of it

When you asked you mother why she left her former church and became a SDA what was her answer?
Did you check her answer against the bible?
When you checked her answer against the bible, what did you find?
---francis on 6/12/12


I am a person who does much study and research.

I decided to google "TACTICS CULTS USE" There were things I already knew, (ie organizations who use the name CHRISTIAN or CHURCH".)

I also read things I did not know which were SHOCKING!

I encourage people to google "TACTICS CULTS USE", but I also know there are some people on these blogs who are against this, and will do all they can to prevent it.
---Rob on 6/12/12


Francis, when my parents became SDA, it was my decision to attend another Church in the community. If I missed a week for any reason, to make-up for missing, I had to go to their SDA Church.

On these blogs, you already wrote a person studying scripture by book, chapter, and verse, in the true context which it is written is nonsense and garbage.

You probably don't believe a child or tennager regardless of their age has the abiblity to discern what is true and what isn't. This is probably because you did not do well in school.

You also will say if parents joined organized crime, began robbing banks, killing people, and teaching their children the same, the children should respect and follow their parents teaching.
---Rob on 6/12/12


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not at all. What if it had been Eddie Longs church and the child had been in danger? Selah
---J.Cs_Youth on 6/12/12


It is righteousness. To the extreme, if a parent says it is obedience to rob a bank, because the parent instructs the child to do so, and the child should honor the parent- this is sin, for the child should instead call the police on the sinful parent rather than obey them just because they are an authority figure- abuse of one's authority and spiritual wickedness in high places will be condemned. God says, this, "So parent you obey God, and honor your child, else I remove the child from your custody, place you into prison, and have another righteous soul properly raise your child as I have commanded you to do."
---Eloy on 6/12/12


when we grow up in our parents home, we tend to go along with whatever church or parents go to.

We accept that teaching as truth. It is not until we are older and have disernment that we know true doctrine from false doctrine

Too many people say that they were born a XYZ and was brought up XTZ and will die XYZ reardless of doctrine

A teenager not going along with thier parents changes in theology is more rebelion that knowing false doctrines
---francis on 6/12/12


It does say to honor your father and mother. And we are to honor our Christian leaders. But Peter "played the hypocrite" against Christians, as Paul says in Galatians 2:11-13. Paul says "even Barnabas was carried away with their hypocrisy." So, it was wrong for others to go along with Peter while he was wrong, yet I would say God expected them to respect and honor Peter. Never are we excused to go along with what is wrong, but Jesus says, "not to resist an evil person," in Matthew 5:39. So, I understand we are not expected to control wrong people, but don't help them in what is wrong.
---willie_c: on 6/12/12


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The differences which your parents who became SDA would have experienced, which they did not have before would have been:

1: Leviticus 11:3 Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, [and] cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.

So you would have eaten ONLY what God said to eat

and

2: Exodus 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

By rejecting those biblical teachings you rebelled against God and did not obey your parents in the lord
---francis on 6/12/12


---Rob on 6/11/12

Rob, this issue of your parents joining the SDA church, asking you to join, and your rebellion in your teenage years CANNOT be worked out in a chat or blog room.

You MUST go to your mother, sit with her and have this discussion face to face

Even if your parents had left christainity to be buddist, this is a conversation that you MUST have with tnem face to face

You MUST ask them WHY, what did they see in the SDA church, what did they learn from the SDA church that caused them to leave thier former church and join the SDA church.

It does not matter what church she joined, when MOTHERS believe that they are right with God, their hearts ache for their children

---francis on 6/12/12


Rob, do you have a particular incident in mind?
---Catholicus on 6/11/12


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