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Five bizarre cannibalistic crimes occures wihin the past few weeks in the US and Canada. Bath Salts/drugs or demon possession?

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Francis, are you a vegetarian?

If not, what meats do you eat?
---CraigA on 7/12/12


MarkV: "All you want to do is reject the words of Jesus."

Look who's talking!

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Mat 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.


---jerry6593 on 7/13/12


WHY do you think Christ didnt spend his time here on Earth preaching the law?.
---Craig on 7/11/12
Who said he did not?

Matthew 15:3 But he ( JESUS) answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

Matthew 15:9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
---francis on 7/12/12


In the vision got made sure that Peter could eat all kinds of four footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, and creeping things, and birds of the air.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/
Leviticus 11:42 Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat, for they are an abomination.

James 1:17 the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning.


Hebrews 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. Be not carried about with divers and strange doctrines

You have a divers and strange interpretation. It MUST be wrong because God does not change his doctrines
---francis on 7/11/12


Youre missing the big picture Francis. WHY do you think Christ didnt spend his time here on Earth preaching the law?
Because He came to fulfill it FOR us and to die in our place!

The law does not make us righteous. It can only condemn us because we are a fallen creation. Jesus' earthly ministry was basically "I have come to do what you could not and to take your punishment. NOW trust in me and what Ive done and my new commandment is this... LOVE ME and LOVE ONE ANOTHER!"

That is the law of Christ. What you eat and what day you worship on will not make you righteous. If you seek righteousness in that way then you have missed salvation by grace.
---CraigA on 7/11/12




. Peter was not hungry for a human beings. In the vision got made sure that Peter could eat all kinds of four footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, and creeping things, and birds of the air.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/
FLAWED LOGIC as Peter who had never eaten anything unclean was not hungry for anything unclean
---francis on 7/11/12


francis, there is no logic in what you say. All you want to do is reject the words of Jesus. Jesus didn't speak about many subjects. Every time He spoke, the context reveals what He was speaking about and to whom. You want to add other context about someone sleeping with animals which has nothing whatsoever to do with the context where Jesus spoke about food. You are again twisting Scripture to fit your own false believes about not eating certain meats. If they make you weak, do not eat them. I will not mind. I do not eat deer meat because it makes me sick. But I eat chilli Verde because I love it.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/12


Human beings were not created to be eaten so Jesus did not have to speak about that subject whatsoever.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/12

Jesus spoke nothing about this either:

Leviticus 18:23 Neither shalt thou lie with any beast to defile thyself therewith: neither shall any woman stand before a beast to lie down thereto: it is confusion.
---francis on 7/11/12


Jerry, of course Peter was not sure about the vision or even accepted the words of God. You are doing the very same thing. This vision came to him because "Peter prayed for six hours and got hungry" (v. Acts 10:10) When a person gets hungry, they want to eat food, Peter was not hungry for human beings. He got the vision concerning different animals. And was told by God through the voice "What God has cleansed you must not call common' speaking about food Jerry. Peter was not hungry for a human beings. In the vision got made sure that Peter could eat all kinds of four footed animals of the earth, wild beasts, and creeping things, and birds of the air.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/12


---Mark_V. on 7/11/12
where in the bible dis jesus say that one human cannot eat another?

Do you not also hold to the faulty logic that if it is not in the NT it is not for christians?

Would you not agree that animals are a higher lifeform than plants, and yet many plants eat animals?
---francis on 7/11/12




Peter: MarkV was unable to answer this logic. Maybe you can.

Peter did not kill and eat anything from the sheet. It was a vision - a symbolic revelation sent to prepare him to meet with Cornelius, which he explained after he met with Cornelius. Note that Peter was still unsure of the meaning of the vision in v. 17, and it was not until he met with Cornelius (v. 28) that God revealed the meaning unto him. And that meaning was religious bigotry - not unclean table fare.


---jerry6593 on 7/11/12


francis, we were talking about foods. Human beings are not suppose to eat other human beings, that is immoral. Jesus did not have to speak about human eating other humans, you should know that. God made it clear that mankind is unique and distinct from the animal kingdom. For mankind is created in God's image, and has value and honor above that of animals. Human beings were not created to be eaten so Jesus did not have to speak about that subject whatsoever. You are looking for ways to reject the words of Jesus any way you can to support your believes of unclean animals. "Animals" Human beings are not animals.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/12


The point is that God DID speak on it, and told Peter to eat things that previously were unclean.
---Peter on 7/10/12

Clearly Jesus had what comes out of the mouth more important that what went in.
---Mark_V. on 7/10/12

OK then so why do we care if one man eats another?

If Christ who does not change, and who did not coem to destroy the law changed it so we can eat anything, why worry about one man eating another?
---francis on 7/10/12


Francis: There is the more important point that whether Jesus did not speak about it

The point is that God DID speak on it, and told Peter to eat things that previously were unclean.

But the question remains - which of the Jewish regulations should be retained and which should not - God showed us one that should not, and there are some other ones that are no longer relevant.
---Peter on 7/10/12


---CraigA on 7/9/12

Neither did he condemn men for sleeping with men, or women for sleeping with women.
Nor did he preach again it.

Your idea that because Jesus did not preach on a subject that it is O.Kk. is the same thay men who sleep with men give

Are yo willing to to stand by your statement that it is OK because Jesus did not preach about it?
---francis on 7/10/12


Craig, good points you gave francis. Jesus said,
"When He had called the multitude to Himself, He said to them, "Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man, but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man" (Matt. 15:10,11).
Clearly Jesus had what comes out of the mouth more important that what went in.
People might defile themselves ceremonially under the Old Covenant by eating something unclean, but they would defile themselves morally by saying something sinful, (James 3:6) Here Jesus clearly distinquished between the law's ceremonial defilement requirements and its inviolable moral standard. Ceremonial defilement could be dealt with through ceremonial means, but moral defilement corrupts a person's soul.
---Mark_V. on 7/10/12


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//If we may eat all creature both clean and unclean where do we draw the line?
---francis on 7/9/12//

Where Jesus did. He didnt spend his time on earth preaching on what we should eat and what we should not eat. He didnt spend his time here preaching about which day we worshipped God on. He came to show us how to love regardless of a persons sins.

In all the things Jesus taught,when did he condemn men for worshipping on the wrong day or eating the wrong foods?

When you stand in judgment before Him, will Jesus judge you according to what day you worshipped or what food you ate? Or will he not judge you according to the love that you showed others?
---CraigA on 7/9/12


That has to be one of the most ridiculous things Ive ever heard in my life.
---CraigA on 7/9/12


Agreed1
Clearly God does not want us to eat all things.
God took the time To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten. Leviticus 11:47

So clearly it is ridiculous for us to say that we can eat anything or all creatures. If we may eat all creature both clean and unclean where do we draw the line?
---francis on 7/9/12


//If we misuidedly understand these verses to mean that a believer in jesus can eat all and anything, why not allow the " stronger brother" to eat the " weaker brother?"
---francis on 7/7/12//


That has to be one of the most ridiculous things Ive ever heard in my life.
---CraigA on 7/9/12


MarkV: Do you take lessons in irrational thinking? Peter did not kill and eat anything from the sheet. It was a vision - a symbolic revelation sent to prepare him to meet with Cornelius, which he explained after he met with Cornelius. Note that Peter was still unsure of the meaning of the vision in v. 17, and it was not until he met with Cornelius (v. 28) that God revealed the meaning unto him. And that meaning was religious bigotry - not unclean table fare. Get a grip, will you.


---jerry6593 on 7/9/12


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Five bizarre cannibalistic crimes occures wihin the past few weeks in the US and Canada. Bath Salts/drugs or demon possession?
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Perhaps a misguided christian ritual...
---atheist on 6/13/12

perhaps a misuided understanding of the bible:

Romans 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs.

1 Timothy 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving: For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

If we misuidedly understand these verses to mean that a believer in jesus can eat all and anything, why not allow the " stronger brother" to eat the " weaker brother?"
---francis on 7/7/12


MarkV, believe it or not there is not one single Gift of the spirit of "correction".

This delusion you have of believing it's your duty or responsibility to go around CORRECTING others based on YOUR understanding is appalling. Your not an apostle, and not one of the original apostles either, and Your not God.

State what you believe and why, and let others state what they believe and why.

The Holy Spirit will take what is TRUE and enlighten us, not YOUR beating one over the head.
---kathr4453 on 7/8/12


Jerry, you need correction again. When I answered you it was concerning (Acts 10:14) that you gave. Not the preaching Peter did at Cornelius household.
"In it were all kinds of four-footed animals of the earth, wild beast, creeping things, and birds of the air. And a voice came to him, "rise, Peter, kill and eat"
Peter refused the command of God because he was like you, "(Not so Lord, for I have never eaten anything common or unclean" and what did God say?

"And a voice spoke to him again the second time, "What God has cleaned you must not call common"
With the coming of the New Covenant and the calling of the Church, God ended the dietary restrictions (Mark. 7:19).
---Mark_V. on 7/7/12


MarkV: "God corrected him as I am correcting you."

And now I shall correct you. You show your ignorance of scripture and lack of respect for it by ignoring the context of the entire chapter in question. The context of Acts 10 is Peter's religious bigotry - not the sudden approval of culinary abominations.

Act 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:

Did you catch that, Mark? It's people (Gentiles) - not pigs - that God had declared clean.
---jerry6593 on 7/7/12


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Jerry, if you told a genuine Christain what you said to me,

"MarkV: If I were dining with a REAL Christian, he would be a Bible believer, and I would explain to him that the Bible forbids the eating of unclean animals"

You would be putting him back under the law. And he would see your mistake but not eat what would weaken you out of respect for you.
You gave (Acts 10:14) the response of Peter, who thought just like you, and God voice said to Peter after He told him to kill and eat,
"What God has cleansed you must not call common." God corrected him as I am correcting you.
---Mark_V. on 7/6/12


MarkV: If I were dining with a REAL Christian, he would be a Bible believer, and I would explain to him that the Bible forbids the eating of unclean animals - including humans. Take Peter, for example. Years after the cross, he stated:

Act 10:14 But Peter said, Not so, Lord, for I have NEVER eaten any thing that is common or unclean.

---jerry6593 on 7/6/12


Jerry, since we are not going to dine together, I will pray that if another Christian eats with you, that he not eat what disturbs you and makes you stumble and weak.
---Mark_V. on 7/3/12


MarkV: I doubt I'd be dining with you if human-burgers were on your menu.
---jerry6593 on 7/3/12


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Jerry, of course Christians who will not eat unclean things. They eat things that have been cleaned and prepared right to eat.
Concerning food, Paul said,
"It is good neither to eat meat nor drink wine nor do anything by which your brother stumbles or is offended or is made weak." Paul adds, Do you have faith?
"Happy is he who does not condemn himself in what he approves. But he who doubts is condemned if he eats, because he does not eat from faith, for whatever is not of faith is sin"
So if you Jerry are eating with me, I will sustain from eating what you dislike in order that you do not stumble. Not because I cannot, but because you will become weak if you see me eating what you dislike.
---Mark_V. on 7/2/12


//Perhaps a misguided christian ritual...
---atheist on 6/13/12 //

You may be on to something. There are Christians who believe that they can eat any manner of unclean meat if they ask God to bless it first. Then again, most cannibalistic murderers are atheists.


---jerry6593 on 6/30/12


Leon, now you suggest I want to devour you as David was by a demon, what has gotten into you? Let it go, for you will not have to answer to me but to God, and you throw in the word of God to sound like what you say is holy and righteous, but it is not Leon. Get a grip on yourself ask God to forgive you. I know I will.
---Mark_V. on 6/29/12


"The Lord is my light and my salvation, whom shall I fear? The Lord is the strength of my life, of whom shall I be afraid?

When the wicked came against me to eat up my flesh, my enemies and foes, they stumbled and fell..."
Psalms 27:1-2

Steveng: King David definitely had problems with sinful people (maybe demon possessed or certainly not in their right mind ~ perhaps in an altered state of consciousness) who were always trying to devour him. I can relate to his problem since Mark is obviously trying to eat me up. Now, that's really bizzare. :)
---Leon on 6/29/12


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Leon, it was very Christian of you to say what you said. It very much showed the characteristics not found in a believer.
You first threw the demons out there, now you are a mouthpiece for them. Those actions are the one's that entertain people like athiest and others who do not believe. You did not go off the deep end, you just happen to show your real nature.
Have a happy day Leon.
---Mark_V. on 6/29/12


"Gordon, you got the passages all wrong. You need to read them again and again..."
---Mark_V. on 6/27/12


"...Gordon and I search for the Truth that already written and discuss it in a kindly matter."
---Mark_V. on 6/28/12


Marky, Marky, Marky! You're a riot. Of course, I'm "speculating". :D
---Leon on 6/28/12


"Leon, you got it all wrong, it is a passion for the Truth written already that possess us.
Demons possess the minds of those who want to add to the Bible using speculations and things not written in Scripture to confuse the readers.
Gordon and I search for the Truth that already written and discuss it in a kindly matter."
---Mark_V. on 6/28/12


Yada, yada, yada ~ and so on, and so on, and so on ~ etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. Thus saith Mark, the self-righteous, rock throwing, soothsayer. :)
---Leon on 6/28/12


Leon, you got it all wrong, it is a passion for the Truth written already that possess us.
Demons possess the minds of those who want to add to the Bible using speculations and things not written in Scripture to confuse the readers.
Gordon and I search for the Truth that already written and discuss it in a kindly matter.
---Mark_V. on 6/28/12


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Draw back?
What need served Jesus declaring as this?:
John 8:28_29 "Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself, but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things. And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone, for I do always those things that please him."

>He was taught
>He abided always by the teachings
"...but I know him, and keep his saying."

No one is chained to God's throne that they would not risk wandering off. Even Jesus had to deny satan with the word God taught him.

James 4:7 "Submit yourselves therefore to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you."
---Nana on 6/28/12


Gordon, you got the passages all wrong. You need to read them again and again. Just ask yourself this question, is someone holy, sanctified, born of the Spirit, redeemed by the blood of Christ, a person who trample the Son of God underfoot, be a person saved by the grace of God? Nonsense.
"counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified" Who's covenant? Christ.
Then after the writer says all those things he finishes with,
"But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul" (v.38). The others drew back to perdition, they were apostates. Never saved. Read (1 John 2:18,19) "They went out from us, but they were not of us......
---Mark_V. on 6/27/12


You're wrong! No, you're wrong & I'm right! Yada, yada, yada! What In the world is possessing you alleged saved & unsaved folk? Must be the demon of pride?

Willie_c: AMEN!!! When people open gates of hell, they make themselves vulnerable & available for legions of devils/demons to attack, inhabit, prevail in & devour their body's.
---Leon on 6/27/12


Gordon, you got the passages all wrong. You need to read them again and again. Just ask yourself this question, is someone holy, sanctified, born of the Spirit, redeemed by the blood of Christ, trample the Son of God underfoot, be a person saved by the grace of God? Nonsense.
"counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified" Who's covenant? Christ. Then after the writer says all those things he finishes with,
"But we are not of those who draw back to perdition, but of those who believe to the saving of the soul" (v.38). The others drew back to perdition, they were apostates. Never saved. Read (1 John 2:18,19) "They went out from us, but they were not of us......
---Mark_V. on 6/27/12


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Mark V., HEBREWS 10:29 says "Of how much sorer Punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of GOD, and hath counted the Blood of the Covenant, WHEREWITH HE WAS 'SANCTIFIED', an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of Grace?" The person was "sanctified" at one time. He was saved. He was counted as "holy" and "set-apart unto GOD". He was among the holy people of GOD. That's what "...wherewith HE WAS SANCTIFIED...." means. The person "WAS sanctified.", but no longer is.
---Gordon on 6/26/12


Gordon, all is forgiven. I will remove you from my list of name callers.
You put too many questions. (Heb. 10:29) the "he" sanctified refers to Christ, in that He was set apart unto God (John 17:19). The "he" cannot refer to the apostates, because only believers are sanctified. Those who trampled the Son of God underfoot, are apostates. Greater is their punishment in hell, which is clearly indicated in (Matt. 11:22-24).
Concerning prophets, God did set prophets in the Apostolic Church. There was no New Testament, that is why the gifts given were so important.
"Love never fails. But whether there are prophicies, they will fail, whether there are tongues, they will cease, ..." (1 Cor. 13:8).
---Mark_V. on 6/26/12


Mark V., I would like to apologize to you for my attack on you about your alledged condoning of illegals "sinning". I see that that is not what you meant to say at all. I was wrong to accuse you of that. And, I also apologize for my harsh attitude towards you earlier concerning the issues of Prophets and OSAS. Will you forgive me of that? I absolutely remain firm on the Truth, just as I'd shared it, but, I had disrespected you and the LORD with my attitude in my response.
---Gordon on 6/25/12


MarkV, I do not believe in the religions of Muslims, Jehovah Witnesses nor of Mormons. And, you lumped the Office of the Prophet (EPHESIANS 4 and I COR. 14) along with these other religions. That was wrong. You equate GOD's holy Prophetic Ministry with Islam, Jehovah Witnesses and the Mormons? Are you denying GOD's Word in EPHESIANS 4:11-12 and in I CORINTHIANS 14? Do you know what those Verses really say and mean? It is GOD Himself Who says that HE has set up Prophets in the Church. And, all of Scripture is GOD's own Words (II TIMOTHY 3:16).
---Gordon on 6/25/12


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Mark V., Is not an unbeliever supposed to repent of their sins in order to receive Atonement for their sins and to receive Salvation? Can a Christian choose to sin? Can a Believer ever backslide? Are these not all possible to do, because we Christians still have free-choice and free-will, even after Salvation? Read I PETER 1:16, JOHN 15:6, I CORINTHIANS 9:27, MATTHEW 7:9 and HEBREWS 10:26-31.
---Gordon on 6/25/12


1) Mark V, In the Scriptures we read, keeping in mind that ALL Scripture is GOD's own Word (II TIMOTHY 3:16). "Because it is written 'Be ye holy, for I AM Holy.'" YAHUSHUA says "If a man abide not in Me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered, and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned." Now, Mark, only a Saved person can ever "abide in" YAHUSHUA in the first place. A pagan could never be said of having, at any time, been found 'abiding in' YAHUSHUA. You know? So, here, it shows the possibility of one who who had been abiding in YAHUSHUA, being warned that if they 'no longer continue to abide in YAHUSHUA', that, they will, then, be cast into the fire.
---Gordon on 6/25/12


2) Mark V, HEBREWS 10:26-31 warns about someone who sins willfully, without repenting, and has only Eternal Damnation to look forward to. In Verse 29, this someone is said to have been "sanctified". To be "sanctified" means to be "holy", to be "set-apart unto GOD". Don't you know that only a Christian can be "holy" and "set-apart unto GOD"? These Verses are warning about getting into sin, knowing that it is wrong, and refusing to repent of it. It shows them as "trodding over the Blood" of YAHUSHUA, by which they were originally sanctified. A Christian can make themselves "unholy" again, by returning into sin (Can a Christian sin?), and by refusing to repent of it.
---Gordon on 6/25/12


Gordon 3: I have learned a lot from Charles Stanley, yet I disagree with a few things he teaches as I disagree with many others I have learned from. No man is perfect. That is why we all fall short of the glory of God.
And when God speaks, He speaks through His Holy Word. You are listening to voices outside of the voice of God which is in His Word. You want to believe any Muslim, Jehovah Witness, Mormon, prophet, and that there will be zombies in the end times, be my guest and go for it. You will not be along doing that, there is thousands who believe what you do. But you have been warned by the real voice of God, His word, about false prophets. And none of the elect can be deceived.
---Mark_V. on 6/23/12


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Gordon, were we not talking about prophets? It didn't take long for you to attack my person.
What do illigals have to do with this blog? Nothing. Want to talk about illigals, make a blog, and I will answer you.
It's never ok to sin. Never said it was. I made it clear to Jed and others that when God commands someone, and you disobey it's sin. Stop throwing mud, and answer the question. Is God right?
"..so that you are not lacking in any spiritual gift, as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ, "who will sustain you to the end," guiltless in the day of our Lord Jesus Christ. God is faithful, by whom you were called into the fellowship of His Son, Jesus Christ our Lord" ( 1 Cor. 1:7-9).
---Mark_V. on 6/23/12


Gordon 2: Here is what you are doing when you say that a person who has been saved can be lost. If there were any failures in the fruits or results of the Atonement, then the purpose of God would be foiled, His covenant broken, His veracity forfeited, His power defeated, His justice sullied, and His glory dishonored. You fail to realize the implications you advocate. To predicate an Atonement that fails to atone, a Redemption which does not redeem, a Sacrifice which secures not the actual remission of sins, is a horrible refection upon all the Attributes of God. To make the efficacy or success of the greatest of all God's works dependent upon the choice of fallen and depraved creatures, is to magnify man at the cost of dethroning his Maker.
---Mark_V. on 6/23/12


Mark V, Listen to the Words of GOD written to us (as in EPHESIANS 4:11-12, I CORINTHIANS 14 and AMOS 3:7) and stop listening to man (Charles Stanley)! I saw your comments on the Amnesty Blog. How dare you claim to be a Christain and infer to people that for any poor illegal to steal or commit some crime "in order to survive" is in any way "okay" with GOD! GOD says in HIS Written Word "Be ye holy as I AM Holy!". Never read that, Mark? You have been spiritually perverted by the teachings of Charles Stanley, and your wimpy brand of christianity that you willingly partake of will only wilt in the Holy presence of GOD, not endure. To claim that GOD somehow "winks" at sin, for any reason is indeed HERESY.
---Gordon on 6/22/12


atheist, As you love your children then you would do them justice by believing in and fearing GOD Almighty who gave you your children. And, you would teach them GOD's Ways. And, you would teach them about Heaven. And, you would love them enough to warn them about Hell. Your unbelief in GOD, or whatever, does...not...change...the...fact...that HE still exists. And, that you and your children will each stand before HIM one day to give HIM an account of your lives.
---Gordon on 6/22/12


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Gordon, listen to the Words of God written to us. Stop listening to man. God never told us He was sending Prophets in the future to teach us something He forgot. All we need is supplied to us through His Word. Eloy claims to be a prophet. He tells everyone you can be born again several times. Do you believe him? Nonsense. He says, he is the light that Jesus saw while on the Cross, do you believe that? If you do you are in big trouble.
Concerning OSAS that Charles Stanley teaches, it is written in God's Word. If you are saved, God's Word tells us that Jesus will sustain us till the end blameless. Do you not believe that? ( 1 Cor. 1:7-9). I do not believe everything Stanley teaches, only what's written already in the Word of God.
---Mark_V. on 6/22/12


MarkV, You see, this is why the false Charles Stanley doctrine of OSAS is so dangerous. When one believes the OSAS teachings of Mr. Stanley, then, they fall for other falsehoods that he teaches. YES!, people are responsible for their own sinning! YES!, people choose for themselves to get into sin! But, demonic spirits are allowed in a person when they sin, because those sins OPEN THE DOOR for the demonic spirits to wreak havoc in a person's life! When Christians sin, they are playing in the enemies territory, Mark. And, GOD allows the consequences if it will teach the wayward Christian a valuable lesson, just to save their necks from Hell!
---Gordon on 6/22/12


MarkV, How do you know that it's "false prophecy" if it's appointed time to take place has not even yet arrived? But, you don't believe GOD when HE says in EPHESIANS 4:11-12 and I COR. 14 that HE has true modern-day Prophets. You have no idea of the evil that is planned by the Enemy which will take place on this Earth during the Tribulation. Partly because you disregard the Office of the Prophet. And, DANIEL 12:2b will, indeed, take place, and your lack of understanding will take you by surprise, if you are LEFT BEHIND. You mock things you do not understand. And, you do not understand because you do not seek GOD's Face in this. Your doubt is a knee-jerk, shot from the hip. GOD always sends HIS Prophets to warn before HE sends Judgment.
---Gordon on 6/22/12


Steven, there is crimes of all sorts happening around the world since the beginning of time and they are not caused because of demons, they are cause by sinners. Don't blame demons for the actions of men. They are held responsible for their own actions. God is not going to excuse anyone because he listened to the voice of anyone other then God.
---Mark_V. on 6/21/12


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Gordon, are you not ashame to write this stuff,

"Interestingly enough, a modern Prophet has been given a Prophecy pertaining to the Tribulation where demonic spirits will inhabit the dead and rotting corpses of some of the Damned who have passed on to Hell. They will animate these corpses to wreak real terror upon the pagan and the ungodly. It will be a Judgment of Curse from Almighty GOD. Demons can inhabit dead bodies as well as living ones. They will be real Zombies."

You give Christianity a bad name. I hope all who listen to what you say, will not think all Christians believe as you do. You have believed the Word of faith false teachers. Did you not read the warnings in Scripture? The elect are not deceived.
---Mark_V. on 6/21/12


Atheist, Yes Atheist I have very excellent reading skills. Now please do yourself a favor, do the intelligent thing, read the Holy Bible for yourself. Accept Christ Jesus, become a Christian, and receive the New Life from Christ. This gift from God to you is priceless, and it will last you for all eternity.
---Eloy on 6/16/12


Hi, Steve (c: The Bible talks about "the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience" (in Ephesians 2:2). So, I understand that a basic is that any act of disobedience is caused by Satan's evil spirit working a person to do the wrong thing. And this working includes how dominating and dictatorial emotions work hard to drive people to seek pleasure (James 4:1+). Demon possession is a more advanced case of this, and in the Gospels we can see how demon possession could include physical symptoms. So, the wrong spirit can include salts and drugs in its working people to do evil like cannibalism.
---willie_c: on 6/16/12


Eloy,

I said too much sugar can cause hyperactivity in children. I did not say it is the only cause for everyone. Can you read?
---atheist on 6/15/12


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Eloy, I said that eating too much sugar leads to hyperactivity in kids,---not face eating. Do you read your bible with the same lack of attention?
---atheist on 6/15/12

Atheist, yes he does.

Saint Eloy, don't you mean you were treated in a psychiatric facility? If they let you work at a psychiatric facility without noticing that you needed treatment yourself that just shows how sick and flawed the mental health system really is. Also, Hyperactivity is not violent. And it is not caused by demons. It can be caused by sugar, but it can also be a behavior disorder or a chemical imballance in the brain. If you worked at a psychiatric facility you should know that.
---Jed on 6/15/12


atheist, You are the one whom convoluted this blog by implying that only sugar causes hyperactivity, and not any demon-possession. But that is not true, for I can attest that when I worked in an acute psychiatric facility, I witnessed patients manifesting hyperactivity and manic and violent behaviors when they have not ingested any form of sugar at all. And scripture tells us that violent behavior can be a manifestation of demonic possession, just as the wild demoniac among the tombs manifested uncontrolled violence. Now you Sir, Read the Holy Bible and give your life to God, asking Jesus to save you: and you will have a blessed life in this life, and also in that to come.
---Eloy on 6/15/12


Gordon,

I repeat.

I have children. I love them.
for them to grow up and live in a world filled with people who believe in demons and hells is just not a good thing. What is so hard about understanding that?

Eloy, I said that eating too much sugar leads to hyperactivity in kids,---not face eating. Do you read your bible with the same lack of attention?
---atheist on 6/15/12


atheist, I am not aware of anyone whom eats an excess of sugar causes them to actually eat off the face of another person. The cannibal incident is about a man whom seemed to be normal in every sense and got good grades, had Bible studies with his girl friend. But after he took some bath salts, he actually ate off the face of another person, at least that is what I heard, and they are waiting for blood tests to see if there are drugs in his system. I don't know how much of the persons face the young man had eaten, whether 25% or 50% or 75% or more, but certainily too much sugar would not cause this cannibal behavior, and Im not sure if the man's face he ate off killed the man too or not.
---Eloy on 6/15/12


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Are they snorting or smoking the bath salts??? Or putting bath salts on their fries ?

This one is new to me...what's up with bath salts?
---kathr4453 on 6/15/12


atheist, I don't get you. Your user name is "atheist". And, it seems you live up to that name. Why do you even bother coming to this CHRISTIAN Web-Site? This is for Christians and for unbelievers who are seriously looking for real answers to their questions, and who are wanting the Truth. You get on here and mock the Truth. If you don't believe in GOD, then you sure as the world aren't going to understand how the spirit world operates. Drugs open the doors to demonic influence and infiltration. One of the "Zombie attackers" was involved in Voodoo. That is the Occult, and the Occult def opens the door to demonic possession. Why not either start believing in GOD, or do some research before making comments on Spiritual matters?
---Gordon on 6/15/12


"But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one another!" (Galatians 5:15) So, any of us can be cannibals, by backbiting and devouring one another . . . with our anger and fury and lusts and bitterness and unforgiveness "and using each other without feeding each other love."

"Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, even as God in Christ forgave you." (Ephesians 4:31-32)
---willie_c: on 6/14/12


Seriously,

What is with the demon stuff?

These individuals take chemical that mess up the normal chemistry of their minds, allowing or causing them to do weird things.

How does adding a demon as an agent in this add anything to the question?

If a kid eats too much sugar, do we need to say that sugar has allow a sugar demon in to cause hyperactivity, or do we just go with too much sugar causes hyperactivity?
---atheist on 6/14/12


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//Bath Salts/drugs or demon possession?//

drug possession AND bath salts/demons.
---aka on 6/14/12


It is demonic possession. It is demonic entrance caused by both illicit drugs and the Occult. The one Haitian man who chewed the face off of the homeless man was alledgedly involved, also, with Voodoo, as well as with Bath Salts. But, demonic possession is the end result off being involved with illicit drugs and the Occult.
---Gordon on 6/14/12


Interestingly enough, a modern Prophet has been given a Prophecy pertaining to the Tribulation where demonic spirits will inhabit the dead and rotting corpses of some of the Damned who have passed on to Hell. They will animate these corpses to wreak real terror upon the pagan and the ungodly. It will be a Judgment of Curse from Almighty GOD. Demons can inhabit dead bodies as well as living ones. They will be real Zombies.
---Gordon on 6/14/12


When a person ingests drugs to alter their mind for "mind-expansion or euphoric feelings" then satan is more than willing to accomodate that soul by walking into the door the person has opened by using chemicals they ingested. A person under the influence of drugs or alcohol is more easily manipulated or possessed into doing and saying ungodliness than a person whom is sober-minded and rational-thinking. When you cause your mind to "drift" you can pick-up all kinds of negative free-radicals which can cause destruction. The word instructs us to stay focused on the Lord Jesus and put him first in all things, and when temptation comes knocking on your door to turn you aside from righteousness, just say No, Go away.
---Eloy on 6/14/12


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When a person ingests drugs to alter their mind for "mind-expansion or euphoric feelings" then satan is more than willing to accomodate that soul by walking into the door the person has opened by using chemicals they ingested. A person under the influence of drugs or alcohol is more easily manipulated or possessed into doing and saying ungodliness than a person whom is sober-minded and rational-thinking. When you cause your mind to "drift" you can pick-up all kinds of negative free-radicals which can cause destruction. The word instructs us to stay focused on the Lord Jesus and put him first in all things, and when temptation comes knocking on your door to turn you aside from righteousness, just say No, Go away.
---Eloy on 6/14/12


Ha ha. Perhaps a misguided atheist ritual. One I heard was on drugs. Something twisted somewhere. Horrible,maybe all we need do is look at the macabre shows on TV. Violence as entertainment is all around us now days in so many different ways seems to me people would become hardened to the pain of others. Oh for the sane days when people bathed in bath salts,weeds were something you killed out of your lawn and the strongest things most people took were aspirin.
---Darlene_1 on 6/14/12


I don't know. I haven't heard the reports. Were these folks tested and found to be on bath salts? Because if they were that was probably what did it. Those bath salts will mess you up.
---Jed on 6/14/12


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