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New Revelation Not In Bible

I have heard here that there is many prophets and apostles out there. Can they be authenticated as from God? Do they have new revelation not found in the Word of God? Scripture please.

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Look at the prophets in the bible, over and over God reveals things through those prophets that had not yet been revealed. All based on Deuteromonay 28. People thought in those days that God would not say anything more than he had revealed through Moses, and they killed His prophets.


Ephesians 4:11 And he gave .. prophets, ... For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:

I hardly think that the saints have been perfect, nor has the work of the ministry ended, therefore we will continue to have prophets until the saints are perfect,a nd the ministry work finished

Please do not be like ancient israel, do not kill his prophets 'cause of your doubts
---francis on 8/15/13


steveng, the two spoken of in Revelation are called two witnesses, not prophets. And what they are warning of is God Judgment. Scripture is steeped with the Judgment of God in the end times. The message is to REPENT. No new revelation there!
---kathr4453 on 8/15/13


steveng, why would we need a prophet for today? God put it all in His Word that He wanted us to know. all we have to do is study. God will never reveal something that isn't in the bible anyway. just a thought. now I do believe some can study what is going on in the world and see how it fits the bible. met a black lady on a flight and she told me she was a prophet. she was telling me how great Obama was and how bad allen west was. I told her I would reverse what she said. allen west is a decent human with integrity and Obama is a liar from the pits of hell. she didn't like what I said so I said ok, believe what you want. if you are a prophet, you already I tell the truth. she shut up.
---shira4368 on 8/15/13


"God, who at various times and in various ways spoke in time past to the fathers by the prophets, has in these last days spoken to us by His Son, whom He has appointed heir of all things, through whom also He made the worlds" Hebrews 1:1,2

Scripture explicitly declares that Christ is the last prophet from God. Even Christ warns, "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect." Matthew 24:24

To say there are still prophets after Christ is to fulfil His prophesy of "false Christs and false prophets" coming.
---christan on 8/15/13


Steven, all the free willers give the same answer as you, "you are blinded by satan" you guys love to give out satan. Here you say,
"Because you are blinded by Satan not to believe what is written in scripture.
The prophets, and christians, today can do anything that Jesus did, but greater."

You say you can do anything Jesus did. I have not heard on the news or TV you are restoring limbs, or were raising the dead, or that you had the power to give people eternal life. All you have done since I have known you is condemn the Church of Christ. The gathering of believers. You should stop condemning the Church, the believers in Christ, get right with God.
---Mark_V. on 8/15/13




The prophets, and christians, today can do anything that Jesus did, but greater.
---Steveng on 8/14/13

And why is that?

Because God lives in us. He enables us by giving us the same power that raised Christ from the dead. He has gifted us with all manner of Sprititual gifts for the benefit of the body of believers and the HS teaches us in the spiritual ways of God.

But, did God live in people during the OT? No. During the OT, people had trouble discerning the words and voice of God because the HS was not given. They needed Prophets to help them and say "thus sayeth the Lord God".

So why do you want to listen to a man (Prophet) and not listen to God Himself (HS)?
---Mark_Eaton on 8/15/13


Mark_V.: "I don't see any prophet today..."

Because you are blinded by Satan not to believe what is written in scripture.


The prophets, and christians, today can do anything that Jesus did, but greater. Jesus said so himself. Unfortuenatley, today's christian's faith is smaller than a mustard seed. So, if todays' christians can do greater things than Jesus, then these two last prophets can do them also.

Besides, most prophets today prophesy soon to come events that were prophesized at and before Jesus' time (and don't get paid for it). God always warns his people 'just before' events happen. And prophets also edify the church (without pay). 1 Corinthians 12:28
---Steveng on 8/14/13


Gordon, about the two prophets that are coming you say,
"If GOD will have (two) Prophets during the Great Tribulation, who's to say that HE would not have some, also, during these current days of today?"
"Who could say?" you say, and so do Islam, so does the Jehovah Witnesses, Mormons, and so many other cults, and so have many in the Christian community who preach something and it never comes true. People can add who they want. But none can authenticate they come from God. In your answer, anyone can be a prophet. Why can you not settle for those in the Bible? What did God forget to put in the Word of God, Bible, that you need a prophet for?
---Mark_V. on 8/14/13


Gordon, what is wrong is what you say, that God has prophets today, probably because you follow a prophet and Steven met two prophets. Here is what you say,
"Rita H, The existence of many false prophets, nevertheless, does not nullify God's Word that says that HE has true, holy Prophets set up in HIS Church today. EPHESIANS 4:11-12." does not say God has prophets today. God was speaking about the prophets and apostles who started the Church at that time. Here is what He said,
"Having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Himself being the chief cornerstone" (Eph. 2:20). Prophets were needed in the Apostolic Church because the New Testament was not written down yet.
---Mark_V. on 8/14/13


Steveng, Bulls-eye, again!

The fact that there will be two End-Times holy Prophets of GOD, as shown in REVELATION 11, completely blows away this belief that GOD stopped having Prophets of HIS for these Last Days after the passing of John the Baptist.

If GOD will have (two) Prophets during the Great Tribulation, who's to say that HE would not have some, also, during these current days of today?

That's what EPHESIANS 4 and I CORINTHIANS 12 and 14 are declaring.
---Gordon on 8/14/13




Steven, I believe that John did see a vision of two witness. Are they going to come? The vison indicates they will. Will we know them? Sure. The two witnesses will be granted authority to prophesy. They are described as two olive trees and two lampstands who stand before the Lord of the earth. They are able to devour their enemies with fire that flows out of their mouths. They also have power over the sky and waters, and are able to strike the earth with plagues. So when that happens, we will know who they are.
I don't see any prophet today devouring people with fire are bringing plagues, do you? The prophets today are full of it, but not of fire.
---Mark_V. on 8/14/13


Mark_V.: "...any prophet out there today is self promoted or someone made him a prophet."

So, Mark V, you believe that the last two prophets mentioned in Revelation 11 are not true prophets.

Anyone who doesn't believe prophets exist today will be the ones passing around gifts and celebrating the death of the last two prophets because they do not conform to your worldly denominational doctrines.

One must understand the two jobs of a prophet: one, to prophesize and, two, the edification of the church. Read Revelation 11:3-12 the extended powers these prophets have. They not only prophsize, but they cause events to happen.
---Steveng on 8/13/13


Well said, Steveng!

Those who doubt and do not believe GOD's Word that says HE has Prophets, today, in the Church, are just plain wrong and shall be informed of that when they stand before the the LORD face-to Face, someday.

Just believing GOD's Word, and taking it at face-value, is not hard.
---Gordon on 8/13/13


There are many false prophets around these days and many of them are posing as televangelists.
---Rita_H on 8/13/13
WEED THEM OUT

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
---FRANCIS on 8/13/13


Rita H, The existence of many false prophets, nevertheless, does not nullify GOD's Word that says that HE has true, holy Prophets set up in HIS Church today. EPHESIANS 4:11-12.

Mark V, AMOS 3:7. Keeping in mind, GOD is the Same, Today as Yesterday and will be Tomorrow.
---Gordon on 8/13/13


God will have words for individuals, sometimes given personally and sometimes via someone else but that will not be a new revelation for everyone. The book of Revelation warns against adding to, and taking away from, God's Word.

However the bible does also apeak of there being prophets in the last days. When someone tries to tell us something of a prophetic mature we must balance that against what the bible teaches us. Any new words would have to be compatible with those we already have - they would never contradict if they were from God.

There are many false prophets around these days and many of them are posing as televangelists.
---Rita_H on 8/13/13


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francis, there is nothing to consider, any prophet out there today is self promoted or someone made him a prophet. All prophets in Scripture were called by God. Instructed on what to say, by the Holy Spirit. The New Testament reveals that the Spirit in the prophets gave them discernment and wisdom (1 Peter 1:11) The Word of God reveal this to all believers. The prophets today, are not revealed in Scripture. Reason, they are man made prophets. Scripture closed, any new revelation that comes to believers is found in the Bible.
---Mark_V. on 8/13/13


Hello,Bro.Mark, you got my respect,too.ha! ha! I like you say
Eve blame Satan, Adam blame Eve.. you drive a point,Satan Does send

We make wrong choices

here, a Pastor killed he told
group of teens " turn music down! outside
Don't you think WE Christians
"listen to the holy spirit" first??

This Pastor went out 11:30 at night..he thinking he heard cries for help
Wouldn't it be "wisdom to stay inside" call 911 ??


they shot him! There was NO one injured..

just loud music..maybe
if he'listen to the Holy Spirit??

God comfort this family


Lidia4796
---Lidia4796 on 8/12/13


Some things to consider
1: Very few prophets bring totally new revelation. Most prophecies are built up God's promises, and the new prophets is given more details while older prophets maybe more general

2: VERY IMPORTANT
Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

I would not even give them consideration unless I knew they taught BOTH the Law and testimony

3: Sometimes it takes times, a long time to authenticate prophecy
Isaiah 7:16 For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
---francis on 8/11/13


Sister Lidia, the devil tempts, but he does not make us sin. We sin because we desire to sin at the moment we do. If we blame satan for everything we do, we are not taking responsibility. When God judges us, He judges us for what we did, not satan. Eve blamed Satan for sinning. Adam blame God for giving him Eve. They did not want to take responsibility. Many people always blame someone else when they sin.

On the blog question above, in the Bible, God made apostles and prophets. Today man makes apostles and prophets, not God.
---Mark_V. on 8/12/13


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Having trouble print today, in short good question! all respect Bro.MarkV.

Both Bro.MarkV. & Bro.Steveng ( all respect ) make good discussion, both valid points, got to ask God help me
understand ( know ) completely.

He said need wisdom,ask.. thankyou brothers. Love of Jesus!
---Lidia4796 on 8/11/13


Steven, I totally disagree with your whole statement. You give Satan all the credit. He is not doing the sins of the whole, he is one individual who is not Omnipresent as God is. Whats wrong with the world is caused by man. They do the desires of their father. He doesn't have to do a thing. Every denomination Jesus said, has tares and wheat, and they sin because they want to sin. You imply that satan is pushing every individual to sin, but you are wrong, people sin because they, not satan, want to do the desires of their father. False teachers are doing the work of satan. He is not doing it, they are. Jesus said,
"you are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do...." (John 8:44).
---Mark_V. on 7/12/12


So, the bible mentions five minitries - the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and the teachers. Many of you claim that today's prophets and apostles are false. But so are the evangelists, the pastors and the teachers. False teachers have been around since the time of Jesus. Satan has had two thousand years to infiltrate the church and divide it up with denominations having christian leaders embrace and encourage false gospels (i.e. new age, eastern mysticism, cultural and spritual left). Christian leaders don't take a strong biblical stand if it has a negative impact on their congregation, book and cd sales, donations, etc. in other words, their bottom line.
---Steveng on 7/11/12


Steven, you get too carried away with words. If satan is the author of confusion, you are very confused. The gospel of salvation was taught by Jesus. He is the gospel of salvation.
"No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day" He was talking about Himself and what He would do. It is the same gospel that Paul preached, salvation through Christ Jesus. The same gospel the Old Testament believers looked forward to, the same gospel believers today look back to the death of Jesus Christ for our sins.
---Mark_V. on 7/11/12


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The gospel was not about Jesus.

There are as many gospels as there are denominational churches in the world - the gospel of grace, of salvation, of Christ, the gospel of this, the gospel of that. The gospel, or good news, was taught by the apostles and by Jesus - and it wasn't about Jesus, he didn't preach about himself.

What did the apostles teach? What did Jesus teach? What did the OT prophets teach? They simply taught about the coming Kingdom of God and how to get there. Satan is the father of confusion and division. The great delustion of the end times is christians who think they are christians but are not.
---Steveng on 7/10/12


Why do you christians pick and choose which ministries that were listed in the NT?

The five mintries - the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and the teachers - all are needed for the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, and for the edifying of the body of Christ. Today's christians take away the apostles and the prophets. But why stop there? Why not also take away the evangelists, the pastors and the teachers because all we need is the Bible, right? All five ministries are sorely needed today more than anytime in history. Just because you cannot tell a false prophet from a true prophet that doesn't mean they don't exist. One can if one is truly established in scripture.
---Steveng on 7/10/12


Were they with the Lord from the beginning of His ministry? (Acts 2:16,20,21,22) Are they Jews? Salvation and revelation, (divine oracles Ro 3:2) does not come from any other race (Jn 4:22)
Paul, the Hebrew's Hebrew, met the Lord face to face and lost his eyesight. These things quailfy apostleship in scripture. There are no more apostles today.
Paul completed all revelation from God to us, the nations Col 1:25. Other than the prophetic writings of Paul, there is no higher revelation from God.
---Phil on 7/10/12


steveng, there is only one gospel. that is Jesus Christ and Him crucified. God is the same today and forever. He never changes. I think I would believe the Holy bible more than todays so called prophets. there are many false prophets today. if you don't believe it just watch tv preachers.
---shira4368 on 7/10/12


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Today's prophets will reiterate what is about to happen very soon that was prophesied 2,000 years ago just as Jeremiah reiterated what was soon come to pass at his time that was prophesied 500 years earlier by Isaiah.

Because today's denominational churches teach so many different gospels than what was taught 2,000 years ago, they will not recognize the last two prophets spoken of by John in Revelation. Most christians will see these two prophets as being destructive instead of the peace and love Jesus taught (in the eyes of the denominational churches).
---Steveng on 7/9/12


Samuelbb7, I agree with what you said. People do not look in the Bible to find the real Truth, but passages that can confirm what they say. Most of the time they are implicit passages. Those which imply whatever they wanted to imply. Most of the time they say, "see they were saved" when the passage never says that. Concerning prophets, there is just too many weirdo's out there claiming something new, that is not written in Scripture, as if God, who knows all things, forgot some things and now is giving it to sinful man.
"But as it is written: Eye has not seen, nor ear heard, Nor have entered into the heart of man The things which God has prepared for those who love Him" (1 Cor. 2:9).
It is written already.
---Mark_V. on 7/6/12


Jhn 13:35 By this shall all [men] know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

A true prophet will never contridict the bible and will remind people to love others and do what is right.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/5/12


Jesus taught more than keeping the law...

He taught us how to show mercy just as he did to us. He also taught us to be humble and not haughty.
---Blogger9680 on 7/5/12


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Blogger9680, "Every good tree yields good fruit, but a corrupt tree yields bad fruit. A good tree cannot yield bad fruit, neither a corrupt tree yield good fruit. Every tree not yielding good fruit, will be cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you all will know them. Enough that the disciple the person be as one's Master, and the servant as one's Lord. If they called the Lord of the house beelzebub, how much more them of his household? The person that is of God hears God's words: if they have kept my saying, they will keep your's also. But all these things they will do to you for my name's sake, because they are not of God."
---Eloy on 7/5/12


Mark, my point is that YOU act like you are without error... in your doctrine, just as Eloy acts as though he is without error in regards to sin. It just seems a tad hypocritical of you to be so down on him. Peace I leave you
---Blogger9680 on 7/4/12


No there is no new Revelation now,it's all in the Bible. I wonder if the reason people seek new revelation is because they haven't taken the time to study the Bible and understand the old or Bible revelation. There are Prophets but not in the sense of the Bible Prophets. I know God has shown me things in the future but they were relevant to this day and age usually happened in the near future from when He showed me. I am an intercessor and most of them have been something which I need to pray protection or help for others. That still doesn't make me a Prophet it is just God prompting me to pray for His people's protection. Seeking after prophecy of the future is very much like seeking for a sign. An Apostle leads or advocates a new cause.
---Darlene_1 on 7/4/12


Steven, you also said,

" Weren't the apostles sent into the world without scrip?"

Jesus taught the Apostles, so I believe when God teaches someone, you do not forget what you are taught.
You are still upset that when you needed help a church did not help you, and because of that you now blame all of the Churches. Just maybe, they didn't like what you represented to them, maybe you told them about the two prophets that spoke without opening their mouths, those you met on the road while traveling across the country. Stop to think about what you are doing wrong and not what other Churches are doing wrong. Just maybe, if you helped them, they could be better. That could be your answer.
---Mark_V. on 7/4/12


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Blogger96, you did not read what I said. Here it is again:

Blogger96, I had never heard of anyone who thought himself to be without error until I heard Eloy say he was without error"

I believe there is a difference between the words "error" and the word "sin" . Error is when someone is wrong, I never claimed not to be wrong. I also never claim to be without sin. I even gave one example where I was wrong concerning (Rev. 3:14-22) that I was corrected on. Hope that answer you can understand. Peace I leave you.
---Mark_V. on 7/4/12


Mark....

"if a man reaches the point that he believes he is without error in his DOCTRINE"

Im not talking about being without sin! Im talking about the man who thinks he has it all figured out and doesnt need any further learning. I think you knew that though.
---Blogger9680 on 7/4/12


Steven, I don't agree with you because you don't tell the Truth. You condemned every Church. Even said they were created by Satan. That is false. All churches, Jesus said, are mixed with wheat and tares. By condemning them all, you condemn the believers in them. God instructs us to edify the Church, you say no, trash it, only those you mention are good.
You recommend everyone take the chapters and verse numbers off the Bible. They are not needed. Maybe to you they are not, since you use the computer, put a word from the Bible and the computer will do the work for you, give chapter and verse to those words.
Then you say I will not believe in the two prophets, I will not be around to make your statement true. There is no two prophets now.
---Mark_V. on 7/4/12


I have five different translation and a couple of paraphrases. Sometimes when I read the Phillips it just helps me.

The biggest problem is people go to the Bible to find proof for what they believe or have been taught instead of letting the word of GOD speak by the HOLY SPIRIT to us.

Many of today who claim to be prophets seem to concentrate on having money sent to them. One man in the Phillipines calls himself god.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/3/12


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\\ I heard Eloy say he was without error. So the answer is no one reaches that point with the exception of Eloy.\\

At least the pope's infallibility is limited by certain very carefully prescribed conditions.

Eloy claims to be without error in everything, even when he's clearly wrong.

Glory to JEsus Christ!
---Cluny on 7/3/12


Mark_V.: "Steven, the examples you gave come from the Bible already."

If that is so, then why do you not trust what I say?


Mark_V.: "We are to trust in the Word of God, the Bible, not in the words of man."

That's why you will mock the two end-time prophets sent by God as spoken of by John in Revelation .


Mark_V.: "Especially prophets who you claim spoke without opening their mouths."

Huh? Twisting my words again as you do with the bible? You are the type of person who wavers to and fro believing in anything that tickles your ear.
---Steveng on 7/3/12


Blogger96, I had never heard of anyone who thought himself to be without error until I heard Eloy say he was without error. So the answer is no one reaches that point with the exception of Eloy. A person can reach a conclusion on a perticular subject or verse once he is convince it is true. He could still be wrong as I was concerning the Church in Laodicea, in (Rev. 3:14-22). I had reached a conclusion it was a Church without any believers, until my pastor showed me why I was wrong and now I'm convinced the Church was mixed with wheat and tar's as are all Churches. He gave me three passages where it showed me I was wrong.
---Mark_V. on 7/3/12


//I have enough information to come to a conclusion. No one is without error//

So, Mark, if a man reaches the point that he believes he is without error in his doctrine, isn't he shutting himself off to any further learning from the Holy Spirit?
---Blogger9680 on 7/2/12


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Steven, I have a book on all prophets of Scripture, so it takes little time. You said,
"Trust not in a book, but in the Holy Spirit."

God speaks to me through His Word, I have five translations. While you find many false things, I find very little difference in all. All translations of the Holy Bible have enough power to teach anyone about salvation.
The Holy Spirit has given me a passion and ability to learn all He wants me to learn at the pace He wants to use on me concerning the word of God. I have a book on almost every topic in Scripture by man who were gifted by God, and taken lessons on the principles and processes of Biblical interpretation. It didn't come from the computer but from a two year course.
---Mark_V. on 7/3/12


First I do not believe all men lie all the time. That would be too easy. People lie on purpose but they also can just be mistaken.

I use a number of different commentaries. I look to see the basis of why they believe something to be true. One of my commentaries is by a Jew on Isiah 53. He says while there are many reasons this should be just one man. It cannot be for that man would have to be GOD.

The best liars tell the truth most of the time and or mix lies with truth.
---Samuelbb7 on 7/2/12


Mark_V.: "Steven, I do not have to do an online search for words, I have the Bible right in front of me."

So, how long will it take you to go from beginning to end of the bible and jot down every verse having the word "prophet"?


Mark_V.: "I have word translators in Hebrews and Greek, I have commentries from some of the greatest theologians,.."

So, why do you still have them? Even your modern day versions of the bible are full of false sayings. Trust not in a book, but in the Holy Spirit. Weren't the apostles sent into the world without scrip? Besides you have infected your mind with worldly knowledge from reading all your commentaries and other author's books.
---Steveng on 7/2/12


Blogger96, I said, I have read them, it does not mean I believe every word they say. I authenticate what they say with the Word of God, because that is the Only Real Truth.
No commentator is exactly perfect, or are illuminate by the Holy Spirit at the same time. We as believers keep receiving new revelation from Scripture of passage we did not understand before. God deals with all of us differently.
I have enough information to come to a conclusion. No one is without error. Those so call believers have no excuse for not knowing the Truth, God has given us every means we need for us to learn. Many scholars are gifted by God. The Bible has presevere because of many man inspired by God. If you do not know the Truth, it is your own fault.
---Mark_V. on 7/2/12


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I have commentaries from some of the greatest theologians, and I have come to find out that man lies all the time.

Trust God and His Word, and you will know the Truth and it will set you free.
---Mark_V. on 7/1/12


Does that mean you dont believe what the commentaries say? I mean they could be lying too! All the little notes in the bottom of the Geneva Bible, Spurgeon could be a liar, Calvin, Augustine....the list goes on and on.
---Blogger9680 on 7/1/12


Steven, I do not have to do an online search for words, I have the Bible right in front of me. I have word translators in Hebrews and Greek, I have commentries from some of the greatest theologians, and I have come to find out that man lies all the time. They cannot be trusted. As you might know by now that Muhammah lied, Jim Jones lied, David Kiresh, lied, Charles Russell lied, E.G. White lied, John Smith lied and even Eloy has lied, so trust no man. Trust God and His Word, and you will know the Truth and it will set you free.
---Mark_V. on 7/1/12


Mark, let's face it, you don't have any clue what the office of the prophet and of the apostle entails. You don't have a clue about their job descriptions and the workings of each ministry. Do an online KJV bible search for the word "prophet" and learn. Come to think about it, it took me four years for you to understand what I meant when I said, "Do an online KJV bible search..." for certain words. But don't take too long to learn about these two ministires for the end is upon us and you will mock the last two prophets just like most denominational christians.
---Steveng on 7/1/12


Steven, the examples you gave come from the Bible already. And He spoke to the people also through the prophets, what He wanted us to know now through His Word, the Bible. Anyone speaking outside the Bible has to speak from the Bible in order that what they say it Truth or not. We have one Truth from God, that which is written. We are to trust in the Word of God, the Bible, not in the words of man. Especially prophets who you claim spoke without opening their mouths.
---Mark_V. on 6/29/12


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God always warns the people centuries before the event and just before it happens.

A good example is Jeremiah who had a mission to warn Judah of its destruction just before it happened. But its destruction was prophesied by Isaiah one hundred years before Judah went into captivity. Isaiah also prophesied that a remnant would excape and then take root again.

Jeremiah also was commissioned to deliver the remnant back to Judah so David's lineage can once again take root and bear fruit.

So, take heed you prophet sceptics and read your bible about the commission of a prophet. (2X2)
---Steveng on 6/28/12


Gordon, you said,

"The Warnings of Judgment that GOD gives through his Prophets of today are meant for those of the Church who are in sin, rebellion, disobedience and lukewarmness"

The warnings you say this new prophets give are warnings for the Churches, but those warnings are already written all through the New Testament especially in (Rev. chap. 1-3) I could have told you that and I am not a prophet, but someone who reads the Bible.
---Mark_V. on 6/28/12


The Warnings of Judgment that GOD gives through his Prophets of today are meant for those of the Church who are in sin, rebellion, disobedience and lukewarmness. The Christians who are faithfully following GOD do not need to fear GOD's Warnings through HIS Prophets. Those Christians who are backslidden SHOULD fear the Warnings of GOD, to induce them to repent and get right with GOD again, before they get their butt's whupped by GOD.
---Gordon on 6/25/12


Steveng, I really have no idea what you are talking about. Fear is talked about, but that's what I sense from your writings...fear. It seems that you are trying to make people fearful.

Please use some specificity. Who are these prophets, and what have they said?

You say people are fearful, but it seems the messages of your "prophets" must be proclaiming fear.

BTW, people for two-thousand years have been applying Revelation to their own time period. We are a self-centered people, thinking the world and time revolves around us.
---Rod4Him on 6/25/12


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Steven, I have no fear of any prophets or people who say there is prophets out there. What can I fear, I am a child of God. I fear God, not no man. You can trust the prophets you see and hear, that's your choice. God has given you all you need to know already, and its all found in His written Word. If it makes you happy to hear someone say that demons are going to enter dead bodies and zombies are going to go around killing people, are eating dinner with them, then have fun doing it. But no body, not even you, can proof who is a prophet and who is not. You have no way of proofing what they say comes from God unless it is already written in the Word of God othewise its their own words.
---Mark_V. on 6/25/12


The Hidden Manna is not NEW Revelation, but DEEPER truth given to those who are overcomers. Just as being given a stone with a NEW Name.

But Scripture is complete from Genesis to Revelation.

God already told us HE WON!
---kathr4453 on 6/25/12


For those of you who do not believe prophets exist today...

is because of your fear. You fear that you cannot tell a false prophet from a true prophet. So you classify all prophets as false. You fear that your faith in God is not strong enough to tell the difference. Your fear will keep you from recognizing the last two prophets as revealed by John in Revelation. You will mock them and hate them because they have tormented you to the deepest part of your soul. And you will surely celebrate their deaths.

Why do you not believe what is written in scripture about end-time prophets? If it mentions about false prophets then there must be true prophets or scripture will expicitly state all prophets are false.
---Steveng on 6/24/12


Whatsoever I Command You {plural}... They shall tell you...

Beware of anything in addition to the sayings of the wise.

7 Seals, 7 Trumpets, 7 Bowls...

21...

7 + 6 = 13 extra month...

To as Many as Received Him, to those who Believed on His Name, to them He gives The Power to Become The Children of God.
---yohannes_estoniesque on 6/24/12


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REVELATION 22:18 For I testify unto every man hearth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book.
---RICHARDC on 6/24/12


Yohannes, we know by Scripture that many things are going to happen at the end times. The proclamation of God's truth will be pervasive in the milliennial kingdom. Wonders is the amazement people experience when witnessing supernatural works. Signs point to the power of God behind the miracle. Marvels have no value unless they point to God and His truth. Such works were often done by the Holy Spirit through the apostles (Acts 5:12-16) and their associates (Acts 6:8) to authenticate them as the messengers of God's truth (2 Cor. 12:12: Heb. 2:3,4). Blood, vapor of smoke are phenomena's and are all connected with events surrounding Christ's Second Coming and signal the establishment of the earthly kingdom.
---Mark_V. on 6/24/12


Joel and Acts 2:17-21...

The Greatest is the least among you, for the least among you will be as the Mightiest Prophet is Prophesied...

Those who 'love' and practice evil will be called least in the Kingdom of God for Messiah Testified that {in general} those did not repent during signs and wonders would have less bearable punishment on The Day of Judgment than Sodom and Gomorrah, which 'would have' remained in a salt lake.
---yohannes_estoniesque on 6/24/12


francis, I was asking Gordon, because he doesn't test them by the Word of God, he doesn't need the word of God, he is so convince he has some different insight to the Truth. And be so careful when you see demons entering dead people because zombies will be here to torment everyone like in the movies, because he heard that from a prophet, and Gordon is mad because we don't believe him that the prophet is a true prophet. So my questions were to him, other the the word of God, how does he know that the prophet is authentic?
---Mark_V. on 6/24/12


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Ok, tells us how do you know which prophet is from God?
--Mark_V. on 6/23/12

Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

Isaiah 8:16 Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples.
---francis on 6/23/12


Do the prophets and apostles you refer to mention this ?Revelation 2.17
There is hidden manna in the form of a white stone where the new name of our creator is written in it.
To recieve this revelation of manna one must overcome.
The key word is "hidden" .This indicates the manna is here on earth because in heaven there is nothing hidden to our hunger of the soul.
---earl on 6/23/12


Gordon, you said,

" It's so freakin' STUPID."

Ok, tells us how do you know which prophet is from God? What do you use to authenticate who is a prophet? By your relationship with the Spirit? And we are to believe you? How do we authenticate yours is from the Spirit? Why not believe someone else's? Is their Spirit not as good as yours? Muhammad said he was a prophet of God. Charles Russell said he was a prophet of God, E.G. White said she was a prophet of God and spoke about many things not in the Word of God. Can you authenticate your own words are from God?
---Mark_V. on 6/23/12


Does GOD not have a Mouth? Cannot GOD speak whenever HE wants? Has HE boxed Himself in with the Canonical Scriptures in such a way that HE cannot say anything else today that is not already recorded in the Scriptures? Who are we to say GOD cannot say this or that?! It's so freakin' STUPID. As I've mentioned a zillion times here before, GOD set up Prophets in the Church to minister TO the Church, as per EPHESIANS 4:11-12 and I CORINTHIANS 14. Scripture also tells us that GOD reveals HIS Secret(s) to HIS servants, the Prophets (AMOS 3:7.) GOD always sends Warnings before HE sends Judgments. And, that, by HIS prophets. Most Prophets were hated and were threatened with death by the RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY. It is still going on today.
---Gordon on 6/22/12


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God's not dead. He speaks daily, and some of the details he speaks are prewritten in the Bible and some are not. For example, If God's Spirit tells me today, "Love your enemies." These words are found in the Scripture. And if God's Spirit also tells me today, "In ten minutes, take 45 dollars and 23 cents to the first woman whom comes to the door, after you ring the doorbell at the third house down the street on the left. She will be wearing pink with a bandaid on her little right finger, and will tell you that her name is Alice and that it is going to be a busy day for the butterflies." You will not find these words in the Canon, but nevertheless the Spirit speaks like this today, just as we have not stopped speaking.
---Eloy on 6/18/12


Prophesy was at times repeated in the bible: once centuries before and the second time just before it happens.

The two last prophets sent by God as spoken of by John in Revelation will speak of what is shortly coming to pass that was told centuries before to warn the people at that time. But many, including christians, will mock them and kill them and celebrate their death.
---Steveng on 6/18/12


Do they have new revelation not found in the Word of God? Scripture please.
---Mark_V. on 6/15/12

Acts 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Amos 3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

We have a gaurante of new revelation. But it will never contradict what has already been given. Rather it will compliment it
---francis on 6/17/12


That which was spoken by the prophet Joel: And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams. And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit, and they shall prophesy. And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath, blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke: The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come...
---Steveng on 6/17/12


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The great end-time delusion is when christians who think they are chirstians but are not were wrongly taught by denominational churches that the ministries of the apostles and prophets are no longer needed.

For those of you who believe that prophets no longer are needed will not recognize that last two prophets as spiken of by John in Revelation. You will surely mock them because they do not conform to your denominational doctrines. You will be the ones celebrating their death.
---Steveng on 6/17/12


No one has a "new revelation not found in the Word of God?" However I do believe there are those who have a new revelation of certain aspects of the Word of God. When I say new, I mean revelation that has not been brought forth of any man previously. The word of God is ever unfolding. Like an onion it has many layers.
---Josef on 6/17/12


What are their names, Mark?

Glory to Jesus Christ!
---Cluny on 6/15/12


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