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Why did GOD prohibited drinking too much alcohol what is the reason behind?

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when men or women drink alcohol, they have a tendency to act like idiots. drunks are obnoxious. many times Christians are in the Spirit and the people thought they were drunk. many that start drinking alcohol cannot stop and it becomes an addiction.
---shira4368 on 3/6/13


Why did GOD prohibited drinking too much alcohol what is the reason behind?

Because man has weaknesses of the flesh, and alcohol can be abused, causing addiction. Causing personal, social, financial problems for the person addicted to it.

I once did a study of the word "disciple".. it leads to the word- devote, which leads to the word- addict.

God is a safe addiction.
---jan4378 on 3/6/13


Hello,This ELENA, live in USA.stand correct,yes,abuse of alcohol destroy .the family, not mean to offend no one, ELENA. She can't drink either.
smile, love goes out to you all.
---ELENA on 10/10/12


Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go, eat your bread in joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart, for God has already approved what you do.

Ps. 104:14 You cause the grass to grow for the livestock and plants for man to cultivate, that he may bring forth food from the earth and wine to gladden the heart of man"

Argue all you want. Wine is a gift from God and I intend to enjoy it!
---NurseRobert on 10/9/12


Elena and Nurse Robert: I come from a family where we do often have some wine with our meal, but I guess there are always cases where it is better to abstain rather than overdo it!

I do not know where you live, but in the US I find that too many people either abstain completely (or almost completely) or are alcoholicsIt is very depressing

In the Marriage in Cana, when Jesus makes the wine, the steward says (NKJV) 'when the men have drunk well, then the poor wine:but you have kept the best wine until now'. So it sounds like the people were at least a bit tipsy at that point, and STILL Jesus was willing to make more wine for them - at least the steward THOUGHT they were tipsy, they may not really have been tipsy
---Peter on 10/9/12




No, Elena, ABUSE of alcohol has destroyed families, generations.....
---NurseRobert on 10/9/12


Beloved,alcohol has destroy families,generations,countries,our family was hurt by alcohol, our mother, dad drank we suffered alot,my mother deeply depressed for years,because of alcohol, she did not drink until stepdad family came on the scene, they all alcoholics.Pro.20:1,Eph.5:18
---ELENA on 10/9/12


This is a Paul's recommendation to Tim. who according to CH1 did not drink alcohol at all to use some alcohol to counteract the bacteria found in normal water.
---Scott1 on 9/14/12
No, Paul would have recommended boiling the water not drinking alcohol often.
Second the problem was not in the water, Timothy had a stomach problem. Most likely a stomach ulcer, which can be southed with thickened grape juice (wine)

1 Tim 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.

It seems here that Timothy used water to treat his stomach issues, naturally to dilute the stomach acid that would cause ulcer pain. Thinkened graoe juice, like milk would line the stomach and ease the pain
---francis on 9/14/12


1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities

This is a Paul's recommendation to Tim. who according to CH1 did not drink alcohol at all to use some alcohol to counteract the bacteria found in normal water.

Drinking to much alcohol can cause addiction, make bad decisions, look at all the alcohol related crimes and DUI, etc.
---Scott1 on 9/14/12


Another blog about something totally unrelated to abortion that Francis has hijacked to promote his baby killing agenda.
---Jed on 9/13/12




---James_L on 9/13/12
ALL my posts were in BIBLICAL/ CHURCH context:

read your OWN CHURCH guidelines on abortion,
---francis on 9/9/12

Judges 21:11 And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.
---francis on 9/9/12


Maybe SDA stands for Skool of Doctors and Abortionists
---James_L on 9/8/12
No it stands for Seventh Day Adventist.
But have you ever thought that SDA know something from the bible about terminating a pregnancy?
francis on 9/9/12

So who started this abortion issue and who is the liar?
---francis on 9/13/12


francis, I said
Skool of Doctors and Abortionists.

Why didn't the thread morph into a discussion about doctors? Why was it taken in the direction of abortion?

Why didn't it morph into a discussion about SDA doctrine?

Why didn't it go in the direction of schools, or how I misspelled the word?


because YOU posted three times on the greatness of fetal murder.

That's why it went the direction it did.

Y O U ! !

own it, and own the fact that you are pro abortion.

You are a liar, and you try to deflect from your own putrid views by twisting scripture to say that God condones them
---James_L on 9/13/12


first mention of abortionon this blog:

Maybe SDA stands for

Skool of Doctors and Abortionists
---James_L on 9/8/12

see James_L started this abortion thing. I have NEVER posted/ started a blog on abortion
---francis on 9/13/12


Peter, francis has said on several blogs that abortions should most definatley be legal.
---Jed on 9/12/12


Peter, francis has a pe... is a dude.
---aka on 9/12/12


Jed about Francis: 'legalized abortion that you support.'

Francis has NOT said she support it. She just brought the subject up. And even saying it should be legal does NOT mean she supports it (I don't think she said it even should be legal, but I am not sure)
---Peter on 9/12/12


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How did the "alcohol" blog get turned into the "abortion" blog? ---Jed on 9/12/12

unfortunately, many alcoholic induced "blogs" turn to abortion.
---aka on 9/12/12


How did the "alcohol" blog get turned into the "abortion" blog? Francis really has a way of twisting things and taking them down his own path.
---Jed on 9/12/12


Francis, why would I apologize to you? You DID say that abortion should be legal and you LIE when you try to deny that you said that. Why would I apologize to you simply because you don't know what an abortion is. An abortion is a willful act. Miscarriages are not abortions like you claim they are. Abortion is a willful act to end a babies life. You are trying to compare uncontrollable tragedies to abortions and that is sick. You need to stop and repent.
---Jed on 9/11/12


Be it further RESOLVED, ... will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, SBC 1971

In continuity with past Christian teaching, we recognize tragic conflicts of life with life that may justify abortion, and in such cases we support the legal option of abortion under proper medical procedures...
The Book of Discipline of The United Methodist Church - 2004

It is no longer a question of whether or not christians allow for abortion under tragic conditions. The question is where should people who face these horible choices go to have these church approved abortions: At home, in a motel, Mexica, Canada, or in a state-of-the-art hospital in U S A?
---francis on 9/11/12


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Francis, I've never been to an Assemblies of God church. Having to choose to save one life over the other is different than the legalized abortion that you support.
---Jed on 9/11/12

I think what you want to say is that having an abortion to save the life of a mother is different from having an abortion as a means of birth control, or for personal convenience. You see all these forms of abortions are legalized.

Now I will ask you to appolgize to me, or post any post where I say that abortion for bith control or convenience is acceptable.

If not refrain from addressing me any further

thank you
---francis on 9/11/12


Francis, I've never been to an Assemblies of God church. Having to choose to save one life over the other is different than the legalized abortion that you support. If the mother dies then the baby would most likely die also. By doing nothing, you would be allowing both individuals to die rather than just one. Being forced to save one life over another is not the same as abortion because you are not choosing to kill someone. Someone is going to die and there's nothing you can do about it except try to save the one that can be saved. No one wants the baby to die. The act of abortion is when someone chooses for a baby to die as an act of their own will. The fact that you would compare the two situations is perverted.
---Jed on 9/11/12


---Jed on 9/10/12
Resolution On Abortion, SBC convention, June 1971:

Be it further RESOLVED, ... will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother

ASSEMBLES OF GOD "A Biblical Perspective on Abortion," 1985.

Yet in some infrequent cases saving the life of the child or of the mother may mean the death of the other.

I say again CHECK YOU CHURCHES POLICY ON ABORTION before you post

In many if not all cases, there is consideration given to rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity,
---francis on 9/11/12


Ok then give me any denomination, i will show you thier policy.
Not only will I show you thier policy on abortion with the " health of the mother exception," I will also show you thier writen doctrine on the ten commandments
---francis on 9/10/12

Are you kidding me? Francis is actually trying to liken the poor individual who has to choose losing the baby over losing both the mother and the baby to someone getting a legalized abortion! What a sick and perverted individual!
---Jed on 9/10/12


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Francis, there is nothing in the ten commandments that allows for abortion.
---Jed on 9/10/12
Where did i say that there was anything in ten commandments about abortions?

I made two seperate statements:


Ok then give me any denomination, i will show you thier policy
---francis on 9/10/12
Not only will I show you thier policy on abortion with the " health of the mother exception," I will also show you thier writen doctrine on the ten commandments
---francis on 9/10/12
---francis on 9/10/12


Francis, there is nothing in the ten commandments that allows for abortion.
---Jed on 9/10/12


You are correct about "hidden "clause ..church,large denomination worldwide, ..late 70's they weasled funds Paid for abortions! early 80' and yes, many like myself left ..
Havd not always been 'chemo brain ...long time was working with lawyers..good post brother.People. need to be informed . ELENA
---ELENA on 9/10/12


That is not the case. I have attended several churches in my lifetime. None of which endorsed or called abortion anything other than murder and sin.
---Jed on 9/10/12
Ok then give me any denomination, i will show you thier policy
---francis on 9/10/12
Not only will I show you thier policy on abortion with the " health of the mother exception," I will also show you thier writen doctrine on the ten commandments
---francis on 9/10/12


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Francis: My church has no written guideline regarding abortion.
---Trish on 9/10/12


That is not the case. I have attended several churches in my lifetime. None of which endorsed or called abortion anything other than murder and sin.
---Jed on 9/10/12
Ok then give me any denomination, i will show you thier policy
---francis on 9/10/12


Once you read your own church guidelne, and realize that every single christian denomination makes an exception for abortion
---francis on 9/10/12

That is not the case. I have attended several churches in my lifetime. None of which endorsed or called abortion anything other than murder and sin.
---Jed on 9/10/12


Once you read your own church guidelne, and realize that every single christian denomination makes an exception for abortion, the next question is: Where should that abortion which falls under the church exception be performed?
In someones home, in a motel, in Mexico, in canada, or in a state-of-the-art modern hospital?

Do not deceive yourself, get to know you own church or demoninational policy and guidelines on abortion. You will find that it is not absolute, there is an EXCEPT IN THE CASE OF clause.
---francis on 9/10/12


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I urgue everyone of you to read your OWN CHURCH guidelines on abortion, then compare it to SDA guidelines

What you will find is that all churches have the same guildlines as SDA, SDA only offer more reasons not to have an abortion
---francis on 9/9/12


Imagine if you will, an Israelite soldier coming into a persons house, killing the father, killing the pregnany mother, then cutting off the head of a 2 month old baby.


1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not, but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Judges 21:11 And this is the thing that ye shall do, Ye shall utterly destroy every male, and every woman that hath lain by man.

For those who are slow to understand: They are targeting pregnant women
---francis on 9/9/12


Maybe SDA stands for

Skool of Doctors and Abortionists
---James_L on 9/8/12
No it stands for Seventh Day Adventist.
But have you ever thought that SDA know something from the bible about terminating a pregnancy?


Wow, I didn't know Francis was a physician.
---Jed on 9/8/12
You just never know at all who does what for a living online.

Maybe you should come to see me instead of the doctor who prescribes alcohol for kidney stones.
---francis on 9/9/12


\\Wow, I didn't know Francis was a physician.\\
---Jed on 9/8/12

Maybe SDA stands for

Skool of Doctors and Abortionists
---James_L on 9/8/12


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Wow, I didn't know Francis was a physician. And not just any physician, one that knows more than all other physicians at that! One that is so much smarter than other doctors that he can go around telling people when their doctors are wrong. He's a total expert in physiology. He's like the super physician of all physicians!
---Jed on 9/8/12


1: There are NO STOMACH INFIRMITIES that is helped by drinking alcohol
---francis on 9/6/12
And your doctorate was in what?
---mlchael_e on 9/8/12


To this day physicians often order their patients to drink some alcohol for physical health. After my dad passed kidney stones, his doctor told him to drink the equivalent of at least two beers a week to keep his kidneys clear.
---Jed on 9/6/12
These must be th every same physicians who think that "legitimate rape" rarely resulted in pregnancy, saying that "the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down."

Tell them rape is rape, and that water will clean out the kidneys without liver or brain damage. Or maybe this doctors are using alcohol to clean his kidneys that is why he thinks no one can get pregnant from " legitimate rape"
---francis on 9/8/12


There are NO STOMACH INFIRMITIES that is helped by drinking alcohol
---francis on 9/6/12

Where did you get an idea like that? To this day physicians often order their patients to drink some alcohol for physical health. After my dad passed kidney stones, his doctor told him to drink the equivalent of at least two beers a week to keep his kidneys clear.
---Jed on 9/6/12
BAD TREATMENT
and lidneys are by no means stomachs are they kiddo?
---francis on 9/7/12


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There are NO STOMACH INFIRMITIES that is helped by drinking alcohol
---francis on 9/6/12

Where did you get an idea like that? To this day physicians often order their patients to drink some alcohol for physical health. After my dad passed kidney stones, his doctor told him to drink the equivalent of at least two beers a week to keep his kidneys clear.
---Jed on 9/6/12


Contextually, stating USE A LITTLE WINE is a continuation of Paul saying don't endorse/LAY HANDS ON anyone too quickly.
Why mention wine in the same breath Paul talks about endorsing someone? WINE TAKES TIME!
The Greek word stomach derives from isn't the belly storage. It's STOMO/GOUT or THROAT used for SWALLOWING.
Swallowing follows a DECISION to eat what's presented or decline what presented.
Our human INFIRMITY/weakness is incomplete knowledge. Sometimes we don't know whether to swallow or not. Likewise, often we don't know whether to endorse.
Use a little wine! USE water/fruit/TIME.
Over time, examine someone BEFORE PUBLICLY putting your hand of endorsement on him/her. DON'T MAKE YOUR ENDORSEMENTS USELESS THROUGH HASTE!
---Legends on 9/6/12


1 Timothy 5:23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities

1: There are NO STOMACH INFIRMITIES that is helped by drinking alcohol

2: If this young preacher had OFTEN INFIRMITIES and drink alcohol OFTEN for said informities, how long before he is OFTEN a drunk?
---francis on 9/6/12


Take a little wine for thy stomachs sake, & that's all scripture says.
---Lawrence on 9/4/12


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1st Cliff - Drinking alcohol is not a sin 6/17/12 ?

Proverbs 31:4 It not of Kings OLemuel, it is not for Kings to drink wine, nor Princes strong drink.

Revelation 1:6 And hath made us Kings and Priest unto God and his Father, to him be gorily and dominion for ever and ever Amen.
---RICHARDC on 6/24/12


"Why did GOD prohibited drinking too much alcohol what is the reason behind?"
"Wine produces mockers, alcohol leads to brawls. Those led astray by drink cannot be wise." Pro 20:1 NLT
"It is not for kings, to guzzle wine. Rulers should not crave alcohol. For if they drink, they may forget the law and not give justice to the oppressed." Pro 31:4,5 NLT
"Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine and champions at mixing drinks," Why? Because these tend to "acquit the guilty for a bribe, but deny justice to the innocent." Isa 5:22,23 NIV
In other words excessive drinking impairs good judgement.
---josef on 6/24/12


Steve, you are right, wine was most certainly alcoholic in the Bible days. We see several examples of it. When Jesus turned the water into wine, the governor said he was impressed because usually people serve the best wine first, then after everyone is to drunk to tell the difference, they bring out the second rate wine, but Jesus saved the best wine for last. So obviously there was alcoholic wine in that day for the governor to say that. Also, when Noah came out of the ark he got drunk. His son Ham saw him passed out drunk and naked in his tent and mocked him to his brothers, but his brothers did the honorable thing and covered Noah's nakedness. People should read scriptures.
---Jed on 6/20/12


//Addiction to blogging is just as much a sin as addiction to alcohol//

I had to smile at this one. In addition, I think some of the addiction is the controversial arguing.
---Rod4Him on 6/20/12


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As soon as you break the skin of the grape, the natural yeasts on the skin begin fermenting the wine. Alcohol will begin to be present just minutes after the skin breaks. Grapes produce wine naturally and nearly always produce 10-16% abv and this has been true since the world began. If abv falls below about 7%, there will be insufficient alcohol to kill mold and bacteria and the wine will spoil. If abv rises above about 17%, the alcohol will kill the yeast and the wine will spoil. New wine is alcoholic, contrary to common opinion.

The theory of low alcohol in Biblical wines is false. Winemaking has not changed in 5,000 years.
---Steve on 6/20/12


"Drinking alcohol is not a sin,drunkenness "is" but then again so is gluttony!
People can be addicted to all manner of things,I met a man who drank 18 bottles of coca-cola every day for 30 years.
The answer is "moderation" in all things."
---1st_cliff on 6/17/12

I absolutely agree. Any addiction is sin, it doesn't matter what it is. Addiction to blogging is just as much a sin as addiction to alcohol. Many people are addicted to facebook, shopping, tanning, etc. The list goes on. Addiction is ungodly and unhealthy.
---Jed on 6/17/12


Drinking alcohol is not a sin,drunkenness "is" but then again so is gluttony!
People can be addicted to all manner of things,I met a man who drank 18 bottles of coca-cola every day for 30 years.
The answer is "moderation" in all things.
---1st_cliff on 6/17/12


The sin of drunkenness and disorderly conduct, also it causes vehicular accidents and premature deaths, and alcoholism also causes organic damage internal hemorraging and cancer to the liver and brain and other organs. The drug alcohol can also be addictive causing people to squander their monies upon it above their daily necessities like food and clothes and shelter.
---Eloy on 6/17/12


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It about water purity, water supplies in the ancient world were not always pure, good enough for animals and irrigation but not that good for humans so children after being weaned off mother's milk were consuming wine with the rest of the family. The wine had a low alcohol content but could be stored for extended periods where milk for animals can't because of lack of refrigeration. If people over indulged in wine they could get drunk and have problems and there are various accounts of that in scripture. But wine was a very necessary commodity for meals in the ancient world.
---Blogger9211 on 6/17/12


Excess alcohol means the alcohol is controlling the person. We are supposed to be controlled by the Holy Spirit only.
---Trish on 6/16/12


Alcohol doesn't love me, God does.
---willie_c: on 6/16/12


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